Still using EZA why?

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Even after being slapped silly in the farmer update, people continue to use eZine Articles.

Is this worthwhile?
The listings no longer appear on 1st page Google
Is this habit or is any link better than no link?
What gives?

thanks
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  • I still get a few hits a day from my articles so its probably worth submitting there I think. You also get a PR6 do follow link.
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    • I hate to break it to you, but you aren't getting a PR6 link. If you check it, the link your article appears on is a PR0, at least to start. The same as any other brand new web page.

      EZA's home page may be a PR6, but any juice from that is diluted to hundreds or thousands of lower level pages.
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    • true. if you submit a good article it still gives you traffic, if not then there's still the link juice. still applicable from my point of view.
  • My reasons have nothing to do with Google rankings.

    My main reason for using EZA is to identify websites and blogs that use outside content in the subject area of the article. In other words, identifying syndication opportunities.

    Any direct traffic or SEO benefit is an unexpected bonus...
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  • Banned
    We do, yes.

    Many professional article marketers do, anyway. (As we've been saying in many threads here since the update).

    We're not using it for its own traffic or its own backlinks. That isn't article marketing - it's just article directory marketing, and as you rightly say, that idea's been slapped silly (though, to be fair, it was silly to rely on article directories for their traffic and backlinks even well before the update).

    That's a plus, not a minus.

    When someone finds one of my articles by putting one of its keywords into a search engine, I'd really hate for them to find an article directory copy. Why would I want my traffic going off to an article directory when I only get 20% of it back, that way? I want them coming to my own site where I originally published the article (and had it indexed) before I submitted it to any article directories for all the reasons explained here.

    And article directory backlinks you can forget: all the expert SEO authors were saying, even a year or two before that update, that typically you'd need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of them to give you the link-juice to that from one backlink from a relevant authority site. Article directory backlinks are non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks.

    Article directories are depositories of freely available content for people to syndicate.

    This is why experienced article marketers are still using EZA.

    We want people who are looking not in Google but inside EZA: these are researchers, webmasters, ezine/newsletter-compilers, and so on, but they're not potential customers. They lead, though, to targeted traffic (and some high quality, relevant backlinks) when they syndicate our articles, which is why we submit them there.

    For many of us here who've tried it this is a far more profitable, stable and secure approach characterised by building a real, asset-based business based on continually increasing residual income from work already done, and this is the true value of article directories.

    If only!

    I'm afraid what you get is a PR-0 link.

    Nobody is born understanding the intricacies of article marketing, and no new web-page (on your site, on my site, or on EZA's site) is born with any page rank.
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    • So agree with Alexa.

      Internet Marketers always seem to believe all traffic has to come from Google.

      Ezine articles/article directories are a great way of getting your content out there without coming directly from Google. You may not get major traffic directly, but when you write good stuff and people republish it, then not only are you creating alternative sources of traffic but you are exponetially expanding the readers of your content and the likeihood of more people clicking back to your site.

      I see the 'article views' count as not just how many times people found it on Google, but also as an indication of what content other webmasters have been searching for, possibly to reproduce. (Gives me an idea of topics which will help get me out there even more)

      It offers you an alternative way to get your content out there, all with redirects back to your site.
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    • I see. I did get a big rank increase once from when I had 25 articles written and submitted to there - so there must be some SEO benefit from the links u get from there.
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    • Hi Interesting tips on why to use Eza. I have written a few articles there and they have helped build credibility. I also love scribd for same reason...
      thanks,
      toneemarie
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  • honestly it still works pretty good for me. Obviously the google farmer did slap a few articles but non the less, it still drives traffic and sales for me so I cant complain.
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  • Just because you don't understand the value of EZA anymore, does not mean that it has no value.
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  • I am still using EZA, yes, and for the same reasons I've always used them.

    But I just did a search for my latest article, and found several copies of it online... but without my resource box or name. I know I can try to contact all the blog owners, but it will take a lot of time. Is it worth it?
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      It is for me, yes. (But it doesn't take me a lot of time at all: I have two standard emails ready written, and all I do is "fill in a couple of blanks" and send them out as and when needed).

      My primary objective is to get my resource box added to what's been published, not to get the content removed (that's very easy, but something I want to do only if I fail with the first email).
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  • I am curious how you get around the "original content' requirement that ezine articles has?

    Do you rewrite the article or just submit it and see if it sticks?

    Thank you in advace for any comments as this is very educational
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    • Banned
      EZA has no such requirement, and never has.

      After Google's "Panda update" a few months ago, they announced on their blog that - for the first time - they were considering instituting such a requirement, but then a couple of days later they (very wisely) announced that they'd decided not to. (They would have lost many - perhaps most - of their best authors over it).

      Article directories don't require previously unpublished content at all - that's just an urban myth of internet marketing.

      Like countless other article marketers, I have over 1,300 articles in EZA (and many of them are in other directories, too), all of which had previously been published in identical form on my own websites first.

      This helpful, detailed thread explains the importance of not giving article directories previously unpublished articles.

      In the introductory email series EZA send out to new authors, they specifically request the submission of articles previously published on the authors' own sites/blogs.

      There's almost always one on their blog/site. And if not, just sending it to "admin" and "info" and "support" at theirdomain.com covers it.
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  • I agree with you. I don't mind them using my article, of course, but when they use their own name on it, and don't use my resource box, I don't like it. I just saw a full page on Google with other sites with my article on, and yet in the Ezine's stats, it says that "zero" has used it.

    But even if you use a standard email, you have to spend time digging up the email address and all, don't you?
  • The page that your article appears on will be a PR0 but it will be a PR0 page on a PR6 domain. Which, as I understand it, is preferable to being on a PR0 page on a PR<6 domain.

    Anyway, I don't need to understand it. All I need to understand it that it takes a couple of minutes to stick an article on EZA and I get traffic.
  • I have been thinkig of altering my article mrketing approach from the sledgehammer to the surgeon and looking for syndication partners.

    Does anyone use buzzle as well as ezine? I always thought buzzle required original content as well as ezine so I chose ezine, but now that I know ezine doesnt require unique content can i not use buzzle as well?

    ty again
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      Buzzle allows no external links at all, so it has no value to article marketing. (Recent development there - changed only a few weeks ago, I think).
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  • Don't underestimate the value of EZA.

    EZA revamped their approvals systems to up the ante on submissions to abide by Google's Panda Farmer.

    Quality has always been king, and although EZA were accepting gibberish in the past, those days are gone, and woohoo for that!
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    • well yes and no. In my sledgehammer approach my overseas employee writes about 20 articles a week for ezine and 99% get through, most of which isnt top quality.

      however now that I am switching my article mrketing strategy (thanks to this thread) I will have her doing something else like blog commenting
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  • I'm not sure what you mean by "steal"?

    The whole idea of EZA is that your articles will be republished - with the resource box in intact. If they delete the resource box then it is theft.

    You can expect a LOT of traffic if your articles are picked up by authority sites in your niche.
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  • Alexa.....2 questions...

    1. As soon as you publish an article on your own site - do you then immediately publish it on EZA?

    2. Would you be willing to share your email templates, where you "fill in the blanks" as you said.
  • Duplicate Content Warning:

    If you first publish an article on your own blog/website then later submit the same article to EZA MAKE SURE you use the same author name on the blog/website as on the EZA article. I use a lot of pseudonyms. When I've submitted under one name to one place and another name to another place EZA can get very confused and cause problems. Keep your identities straight (and your whiskey too).
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  • I love EZA, one of my articles recently reached the 100,000 views, just one article. It has kept in the top 3 positions for the main keyword. Many Google Adsense clicks for them and for me. They really work quite well for long term traffic if you optimized your articles correctly.
  • you can still get internal traffic from Ezine Articles.
    even tho it was a huge drop off in traffic because of
    google
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    • Banned
      Just the 642 posts ...

      And to be honest, half of them are nonsense, with people who haven't read the thread at all repeating all sorts of urban myths, but it becomes pretty clear, reading it, who knows what they're talking about and is actually making a living, I think?

      This is absolutely right.

      It might have been this thread? That's a pretty good, brief explanation of the subject, although even there one has to be able to identify and ignore the people who have misunderstood what the words mean.

      "Duplicate content" (as opposed to "syndicated content"), as Google uses the words, and in the sense in which they're significant to internet marketers, refers to multiple copies of the same text on one website. But so many people wrongly use the words to refer to multiple submissions of the same articles to different article directories that many of the conversations on the subject become frankly unmanageable, with so many people talking at cross-purposes. :rolleyes:

      After it's been indexed on my site, yes. (That's normally well within 24 hours).

      With apologies, I can't, Johnny, because I don't disclose my niches, and even the templates will give that away to people who've received the emails from one of my many niche pen-names (some have been Warriors!).

      But I can summarise/paraphrase their contents:-

      First email: Hi, it looks like your webmaster's mistakenly left the resource-box off my article <title here> when re-publishing it from <source here>. The resource box is shown below, and I'd be really grateful if you'd please be kind enough to append it to the article, pronto, with the link(s) in clickable format, as per the terms of service of <source directory> from which you've kindly re-published it. I also have similarly written articles on <related subject> including one which won a Pulitzer prize and had the critics collapsed in hysteria, and if you'd like me to send copies of those for republication, with links intact, please let me know and they'll be on their way - no charge. Looking forward very much to seeing my link reinstated promptly, please ... best wishes and good luck with your site ..." etc. etc.

      And if that doesn't get me anywhere, then after 7 days ...

      Second email: this is just a standard DMCA notice (they're available everywhere, including in several threads here), written to the site-owner, with a copy to his registrar (found from a "whois"), his host (found from "who-hosts.com") and Google. That gets either the content or his site removed really quickly. Usually. Unless they're using "bulletproof hosting in Nepal" or something (but very few people are, and even they don't want Google delisting them, so they tend to take it seriously).

      I completely agree with Domainorama, that you have to keep your pen-names and your whisk(e)y straight. Clearly if you publish an article under the name Alouicious Ponsonby-Smythe on your own site, and then submit it to EZA under the pen-name Arabella Parsnip-Swede, they're going to wonder whether you've stolen it, and reject it while they're wondering. This is what some people have done, who occasionally pop up here and say "EZA rejected an article because I'd already published it on my own site". Of course, what's really happened is that EZA rejected it because the names didn't match. :rolleyes:
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  • I have to echo the others here that the primary reason to write submit articles to article directories is for other webmasters to syndicate your content onto their own sites. That's where the true valuable traffic will come from.
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    • A little while back, I was playing with the numbers, and posted some here.

      Quick summary...

      I took a sample of 15 of my oldest EZA articles from 2005, before I'd really honed a strategy. The resource boxes weren't all that good or all that bad.

      The long-term clickthrough rate was about 1.1%. The syndication rate, estimated conservatively by taking the number of times the republish link was clicked, was 3.6%.

      These 15 articles covered 6 different niches. Average length was about 850 words, while the best one in terms of syndication was almost 1,500. [Edit: the best one did better than the rest combined.]

      Needless to say, these are not my best, either in terms of content or performance, just some of my oldest.
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  • Yes, long time fan of EZA, I use the site for my own info / research, and for sharing my own content. And I'm very happy that they're cleaning it up, too
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    • EZA are always the first directory I submit to.

      However, I am starting to find that they are taking themselves a bit seriously by refusing articles just for the sake of it.

      They tend to start to refuse some articles if I submit groups of them, which is what I tend to do as I save time by submitting my articles on the same day of the week.

      When I look at my earlier articles, they actually let slip a few typos and yet later on refuse articles of higher quality, free of mistakes for some obscure reason they they can't explain.

      Maybe they have a big head with being the number one article directory. But like Google, you should consider them and bend to their rules.
  • EZA has been good to me over time. I have about 70 articles there, with 35,000 views between them and more than 5,000 clicks. I haven't noticed big shifts since the update, but I'm willing to continue using EZA for the timebeing at least and I think you'd be foolish to discount it completely.
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    • Looks like the poor dude's slowing down in his old age: he seems to be scoffing at only about 1/3rd the speed he used to. And all that salt looks to be making him a bit dry and fluffy round the edges, too.

      I fear he won't be with us for much longer, at this rate.

      Though nor will I, truth be told, because these threads are starting to give me the green apple splatters.
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  • I stopped using EZA after the Panda update. Of course, everybody's situation is different, but after analyzing my own data, I decided that EZA was of no reasonable value to me.

    I have found that working with Google directly is much more beneficial. EZA is like middle man.

    Sure, it's great if you are just starting out with a new site and are not quite sure what to do, but all of the serious bloggers I have began networking with don't use it. They all focus on their own sites and Google first and foremost.
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    • As several have mentioned using EZA has nothing to do specifically for ranking. I still use EZA, but certainly never for the backlinks or even direct traffic. Through EZA, my articles find a new syndication source 2-3 times a week on average. In addition, self-syndication results in about 5 new context-relevant outlets every day. As I have often mentioned, all of my sites are in some of the most hotly competively niches, and have never ranked anywhere above the murky depths in the SERPs. Almost all traffic is driven directly by syndicated articles, and all search engines including Google are totally irrelevant in any of my marketing strategies.
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  • Alexa, Im curious...

    Im finding a lot of my articles on less than quality sites that simply have the article title, and the article introduction, then a link that typically reads "read the original article here" ...with a link back to ezine.

    There's no backlinks to my site at all???
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    • Banned
      I've sometimes found these.

      They're breaching EZA's terms of service, of course (not that EZA will do anything about that), as well as your copyright (though they perhaps imagine - wrongly - that they're not, by including a link to the EZA copy), and you're completely within your rights to do something about them, if you want to.

      I don't usually bother, myself. My impression is that something like my "first email" above is very likely to be ignored anyway, by people doing this, and I honestly don't feel sufficiently strongly about it to start sending them DMCA's. They're not actually doing me any harm, anyway. :confused:









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    • Banned
      For many of us, Google's "panda update" has made article marketing a better proposition than it used to be, not a worse one.

      As you can see so many people commenting in so many threads here.

      Removing so many of the article directory articles from the higher ranks of the SERP's has made it a bit easier for us to rank our own sites.

      Your comment applies to "article directory marketing", I can see (and nobody can pretend that that's a great business model any more), but not to article marketing per se.
  • schttrj,

    according to my very intelligent 8 year old cousin who just sat and read through this thread, your a doofus.

    Her words, not mine.

    Chris
  • If your site is linked to by a lot of sites lurking in so-called 'bad neighborhoods' then you may in fact be penalized by Google.

    However, it is unlikely that a huge amount of known spammers would take your articles from EZA and use them on their sites.

    In order to rank a site Google focuses on many things in order to maintain a useful service for its users. When it comes to ranking a site, G. gives most credit to that which is the hardest for the webmaster to manipulate. It is very easy to give a web page a title with a good keyword but it is much more difficult to get a PR 8 authority site to link to you.

    Anything that looks like you have attempted to manipulate incoming links (buying them, link farms, etc.) will result in being penalized by G. This could be by having your domain pushed down the rankings 50 places or by being de-indexed.

    Article directories, by their very nature, give you control over an incoming link. By submitting an article you can put a link to your site on their site. G. knows this but there have been no recorded cases of anyone being punished by them for using article directories.

    You would know that you were being penalized because pages that formally ranked well will disappear way down the SERPS.

    The question you'd have to ask yourself is why 100s of known spam websites were syndicating your articles? If it is because they are 100s out of 10,000s who are syndicating your articles then this is just means that you're a very popular writer. But if these websites are the huge majority of the people using your articles then something odd has happened.
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    • You are spot on with everything but this opening statement:

      I think you have it backwards.

      In the past, Google has said that linking to bad neighborhoods can cause lowered rankings, specifically noting link farms and spam sites. They have also said they don't penalize for inbound links from those types of sites for exactly the reason you later cited.

      The webmaster or site owner can't control inbound links. If webmaster A could wipe out webmaster B's rankings by submitting B's site to the right number of bad sites, the only commercial site that would ever come up would be Google.

      So they simply ignore those links unless, as you mentioned, they catch out the webmaster deliberately trying to inflate their ranking by buying links, etc.
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  • I guess its because people still get some traffic from it. Your articles can still rank well as long as you go after low competition keywords and write longer and good articles.
  • I think its more habit than anything else, and EZA still gets plenty of views
  • Alexa,

    Your posts here have really changed my attitude towards Article Directory Sites. Thank you for your advice :-)

    Tom
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  • Alexa,

    You've set me thinking now...

    What would you consider more valuable - guest posting, or submitting quality articles to EzineArticles in the hope of being syndicated?
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      Ooh, it's really difficult to compare the two, because ...

      (i) Submitting quality articles to EZA in the hope of being syndicated shouldn't be anyone's sole way of trying to achieve syndication, and some of the success from article syndication is going to come from other efforts that go hand-in-hand with doing that;

      (ii) Submitting quality articles to EZA in the hope of being syndicated is a little bit of a numbers game: you might have a couple of great articles that never get taken at all and a third, not-quite-so-good one which happens to spread far more, end up on an authority site or two and bring a flood of highly targeted traffic;

      (iii) Submitting quality articles to EZA in the hope of being syndicated is something you can do whenever you feel like it, and without any restrictions at all, whereas blog commenting necessitates (a) identifying relevant blogs from which one fancies a backlink, and (b) getting one's comments accepted and published (not quite as predictable and reliable as it is at EZA!);

      (iv) The answer will vary greatly according to how good someone is at "writing for syndication": I suspect - from what I see - that the overwhelming majority of EZA authors are, in any case, actually "writing for clicks" rather than "writing for syndication", i.e. they're trying to do article directory marketing rather than article marketing, and are depending on article directories for their own traffic and for their own backlinks, which is a big part of the reason why the turnover of article directory marketers is so high, with the majority (understandably) either dropping out in disillusionment or re-appearing 6 months later to start a thread called "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" - you must have seen a few dozen of those here? - because, of course, for them it didn't. This "skews the results of the comparison greatly". In other words, for many, "the hope of being syndicated" is very different from "the reality of being syndicated".

      Anyway, my answer is "do both".
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  • Wonderful, thanks. Your entire approach is completely different to an awful lot of what I have been reading - but it makes a lot of sense. Would you mind revealing what else you do to drive traffic to your niche sites?
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    • I just want to say a big thank you to Alexa for the excellent, excellent information in this thread. And, in fact, in the older thread you linked to... which I read. All of it.

      I'm a long-time WF lurker, but not a total newbie. However, the primary place I've done my learning did, in fact, drill in the duplicate content myth. They did a really good job of it, too. These two threads have really given me a huge leap forward, an understanding of syndication, and how to work more efficiently and build my business. I've had all my questions answered about the role of submitting content to article directories post-Panda.

      This is the year I'm making the change from a dabbler to someone pursuing a family-supporting income. Thanks for your help on the way!

      Best,
      Kim
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  • Hey Greg, great strategy. Original content on your blog = authority. Then EZA your article = strong PR back-links and targeted traffic. It makes sense.

    I think another key point which was probably already made, is not to put all the eggs in one basket, so to speak. By diversifying, changes like panda won't wipe you out. I still use EZA but utilize many others methods as well.
  • Even though I'm new at this I think I get it, Google doesn't like EZA as much as it once did. But can somebody tell me why?
    I am currently considering investing in an article writing course from a great teacher to boost SEO but these threads aren't very encouraging. Maybe I should be looking at other types of SEO training?
  • Alexa Smith you have almost 10000 posts and 5000 thanks. Every article marketing related thread you seem to reply, too. Why don't you have a WSO?
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    • Zachary, you look old enough to drive. Why don't you sell used cars?
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    • I've asked her the same question I would love one!
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  • If 5000 people thanked me on my knowledge of used cars I wouldn't be a used car salesman I would own several used car dealerships

    and thanks for adding me as a friend on facebook
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  • To Alexa, CDarklock and et al...

    I just received an education in "article marketing" that many so called "gurus" would have asked money for by reading this...AND the other thread...phewwww. Thank You. You have confirmed my suspicions about the duplicate content urban myth.

    Thanks
    Gary
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    • As I was thinking about all of this last night and I have been contemplating how to go about promoting my existing site. I'm wondering if there's ever a reason that you would choose NOT to submit your content to article directories for syndication?

      My current site has about 120 pages of solid content, and another 40-50 of tutorials for a specific music method book and user-generated questions and answers. About 1/3 of my pages are in the top 10 of Google just on the strength of the content and a couple backlinks (I've never worked at backlinking). I've submitted about 6 articles to EZA... all unique, not the content from my site. The whole 'duplicate content' idea that I'm emerging from had the companion idea that the content on my site is supposed to be my very best content, and should be nowhere but my site.

      For some reason the thought of sending off my content to various places makes me queasy. I think it's years of the thought process I've labored under. I mean, the whole point is to build my traffic, my credibility as knowledgeable in my field, build backlinks, and in the end, build an income for my family. It makes sense that in order to do that, my content has to go further than my website, so I get more exposure.

      Can anyone help me wrap my brain around this?

      Thanks.
      Kim
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  • Thanks, Greg

    The problem in this case was that they didn't use my resource box. Only my articles. Although I'm flattered that they liked it, of course, I cannot pay my rent with flattery
  • IMO you're better off using the content on your own website. Especially since Google is slapping sites hard for not having unique content.

    Plus, as long as you target the right keywords, have solid on-page SEO, and throw some decent backlinks at your sites & pages, it's really not that hard to hit page 1.
  • Geek....

    Nice site then. So..dip your toes in the water. Experiment. Take 1 page of your site..1 page of content and submit it! What will it harm? Nothing young lady. You don't have to submit a page that reveals your proprietary methods. Pick one that is general and see what happens. START TESTING! See, we all have labored under many so called myths until someone stands up and says.....ENOUGH!

    I know that's what I would do. Test....test...then test again. You have minimal time involved!

    Just my opinion

    Gary
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    • Thanks very much, Gary. I do need to just start experimenting and branching out. I will choose some of my more general pages and get them out there! Like many, I've made my share of mistakes and unprofitable niches and getting distracted by all things shiny and new. It's time to just do some serious work on content, marketing, and backlinks. Oh, and my first product, in the works.

      Many thanks for your time and ideas!

      Best,
      Kim
  • Damn...and here I was in a "torturing" Mood!

    MYOB, first of all thank you for sharing that. As I stated earlier, what has been contained in this thread has been highly educational for me. And this last post from you is kinda like icing on the cake as Ive made note of these resources. I'm a content writer, although my work is mostly done for others, and that's getting just a bit tiring.

    I've come to the conclusion that if I'm going to write, I might as well monetize on my behalf and not others.

    So again, thanks for the input!

    (grumbles and puts away the clamps and the whips)

    Gary
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  • Kim The Geek...

    You are quite welcome....and like you....the "heavyweights" who took the time to put forth in this thread have readjusted my thinking a great deal. And to all of them I would like to say thanks again....

    And to You Kim....you should keep us posted in here on how you progress!

    Gary
  • It is still a good quality back link.
  • NEW ATTHIS.....

    Thanks for the tip about Scribd! Was just there....and there really wasn't a need to post a link...all one has to do is is use Scribd's search bar...and type in....Turn Words Into traffic..BOOM...there it is..$9.99...

    Thanks for the share
    Gary
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    • Gary, glad it could it help. I noticed just now, however, that the Clickbank link for the book referenced by MYOB, who so generously offered the tip regarding the book, had an affiliate ID, which I'm assuming is his. If it is, I'm doubting he's hoping to pay the mortgage with any funds from the proceeds of potential sales, but still, I think it wasn't my place to add the Scribd tip. Sorry for that! I was all caught up in the moment though at not only being able to find the book, but also for such a good price!

      A good companion to that book is the ebook Xfactor wrote last year. I thought it would be mostly about Adsense, but what it mostly did for me was reinforce, in a big way, the power of the best way to do content publishing, which is so thoughtfully and carefully laid out here by following the posts and the nice links within them of Alexa Smith. I haven't yet read much by MYOB, but that's on the to-do list.

      Xfactor's ebook lays out the strategy through 240 pages of nothing but that and all of the backlinking strategies he has tried over the years and what he suggests today. It really is just all about adding value and common sense, but I need that to be reinforced. An excellent read for anyone interested in content publishing done right.
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  • I still use EZA... they take along time to approve your content but once its approved it golden.... but I still use many others sites for faster submissions.
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    Thread Still active, why?

    Chris
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      This simply isn't so, Shannon. It's an extremely poor-quality backlink.

      Such poor quality that you'd need many tens of thousands of them to give you the link-juice equivalent to that from one backlink on a relevant authority site.

      Like any article directory, it's a non-context-relevant, PR-0 (or even "page-rank not available") backlink, for heaven's sake: you can't get much lower quality than that.

      EZA is (for many people) the very best article directory there is, but nobody's using it because of its backlinks.
  • Ezine articles are polishing up thier act by checking through the articles manually now. i think this would bring them back up again, but god knows when?

    i just did a search on the traffic that ezine articles has compared to articlebase, and i found they were still leading. if there was any article directory to submit, i guess it should still be ezine articles.

    Could anyone share if they have any articles that are written more than 2 years ago and currently still generating traffic? i would really like to learn how to write one article like that.

    As for syndication, can anyone share how they get targeted and paying customers?
  • Factoidz does better in Google than Ezine, and they pay you well for publishing. The only problem there is you have to become a staff writer after writing twenty articles before you can get away with "reviewing" a site, and adding your link, or at least you can't write advertisements

    I'd rather have a back link from an article writing site that does get first on the first page easily, and pays you really well in upfront payments and for views. The amount you make from writing there can be more than a lot of people make from sales on their websites.
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      It will do, clearly: it isn't an article directory.

      Wouldn't we all? But it isn't an alternative to EZA, Rowanman. It isn't an article directory. Nobody's using article directories for their backlinks. Not successfully, anyway: that's not what they're there for at all.

      I dare say. But of course it's a totally different business model altogether.

      Yes, I have. I've only been building my business in its present form for about two and a half years, so I can't claim to have an enormous number of them from more than 2 years ago, but certainly some are still generating traffic. And many from 1.5 - 2 years ago are generating new traffic regularly.

      Here's how I've written mine, if it helps.

      One of the forum's most successful article marketers shares his techniques here.
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  • well I think the reason to go on using EZA is the 6PR backlink you get from the directory.
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    • Well then you'll be extremely disappointed to learn that you don't actually get a PR6 backlink by submitting to EZA, at all. EZA's homepage may be PR6; your newly created article pages are PR-n/a or PR0. Some of the PR from other pages will trickle through to your page, sure (not that you'll be able to estimate how much, since Google's public-facing PR values are very infrequently updated and are displayed only in whole numbers), but certainly not that much.

      If EZA backlinks are working for you, then by all means continue to use them for that. But, again, let's be clear: they're not actually very powerful at all, and they're not PR6. And this is yet another myth that's been laid to rest countless times already.
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  • Thanks for the read folks. Some interesting stuff.

    I have to wonder however, I see a few of you have mentioned copying your article to EZA right from your blog article. Do you spin it before doing that, or just put it up as is? If not, doesn't that count as duplicate content? I only ask because my experience with SEO comes predominantly from the adult entertainment market and duplicate content is something we really try to avoid.

    Thanks in advance for the input.
  • I have over 1300+ articles sitting in EA, and some are mine and other are outsourced, i.e. I paid for them.

    They still bring in traffic, lots of optins and sales, so I will not be turfing them anytime soon.
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  • I find EZA useful enough, however, if you don't appreciate it much, you can always work for a site that will meet your satisfaction. Just don't give up writing good content articles.
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    My experience so far with EZA is that I can get my articles approved within 3 -4 days by making sure I follow their guidelines. I dont necessarily follow it to the letter but keeping close to them gets them approved easily and without a lot of fuss.

    The basics are make sure the titles is formatted correctly. Have the content well written and original, dont use PLR, dont copy anything used anywhere else and make sure whatever you write is engaging and informing.

    Although EZA allow links in the body they have to be informative and non self serving, anything self serving is reserved for the resource box.

    You can have inactive and active url's to sites you DONT own in the article body just as long as it adds value to the article itself - if it is self serving and you own it the article will get rejected and you will have to fix it.

    Once you go down the road of having to fix article that you submit they become very picky about anything you submit and they will take longer to review your articles before approving them until your submissions become better.

    As for the length of the articles, I am starting to work on increasing the amount of words I use and make sure the information is worth it. I will also be looking at syndication in earnest and writing for blogs etc but that will come at a later time.

    Overall Alexa and JohnMcabe are spot on from what I can see. Although I am by no means a am wizard I am quite proficient in creating article frameworks quickly to write them out. Making sure the content is more and in depth will take more work
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    • As far as ezine is concerned why not publish on infobarrel, squidoo or hubpages instead. Your article can actually get a pr2,3 or even 4. Then you got a quality backlink and half the profits too. Seems no reason to publish on ezine ever. Am I wrong.
  • Not entirely accurate either... Observe:

    Google
  • This is driving me crazy and following the advice. I know this is probably a stupid question but can someone show me a resource box that you use...
  • I have some articles on EZA and , yes the actual articles have lost rankings , but i have found that people are still using some of my articles. This does result in getting me more traffic, maybe it's IMers who knows.
    Even though google may not like them a lot now, it seems it is still a place that webmasters are going for articles to put on their websites, which does get the writers traffic, very similar to the blog networks people are using, to get it in front of eyeballs...
  • The only problem with a lot of articles directories is most of them are not niche sites so the link juice from your resource box is not as powerful, but of course getting your article picked up from another publisher does have it's benefits.
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  • There are still people who uses Ezine Articles since they believed that they can also build their website through article writing. If you think that EZA is not helping you promote your website, then just stop it. In order to get good results out of your article marketing, one needs to do it regularly. In my personal experience, I submit articles on EZA like I was just doing my blog. I am quite satisfied with the results since it help me increase my web traffic. There are people who get what they want, and some just don't.

    Just focus on the things that will crown your efforts... just a piece of advice
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    Just a few months ago I was you, knowing nothing about the topic. I know exactly the position you are in. Feel free to ask should you have any other questions, for those willing to learn I have unlimited patience. The list you mentioned (and others hanging around, MYOB and tpw come to mind first) is definitely a good one to learn from. It's what I did.
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    • With Google focusing on quality content so much, I think Ezine articles will do quite well.

      I found myself back there the other day, and will be focusing on them again.

      The duplicate content thing did annoy me at first, but that was just my lazy side

      Nice point Joe, best not to make your copy too salesy... it's all about quality and freshness these days.
  • I have twenty or so articles on ezinearticles.com. One thing they have an issue with is one of your "self serving" links in your resource box going back to the same article on your site or blog. What I usually do is publish a blog post and base it around a particular keyword,then get it indexed. Then submit an article to EZA based on a related keyword and point one of my "self serving" links back to the post on my blog that I just got indexed. Then of course my other link goes to my blog's homepage. Good strategy to use post panda.
  • Hi Attraction Marketing,

    Sorry, but that link is to a closed thread with no further refs to the book.
    I Googled Tiff Lee and got nothing either.

    Owen
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