The Writer's Dwelling!

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Hey guys and girls!

I'm an experienced writer myself, having been writing steadily for years now, albeit not in this format and for money either!

So I just wanted to generate a discussion where writers came here, and just discussed their experiences in writing. The highs, the lows, pieces of advice you could give to people just starting out in the writing business, why you write for a living as opposed to another career, what you wish you had done differently, what kind of things you enjoy writing most.

That kind of stuff!

So, without further ado, please begin sharing!

Mannequin (Ben)
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    The best piece of advice that I could give to you is to have relevant samples ready. I found it so hard to find work at first because I didn't have any sample articles to show to prospective employers.

    Another good tip would be to offer a few free articles in return for references.
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    • Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      The best piece of advice that I could give to you is to have relevant samples ready. I found it so hard to find work at first because I didn't have any sample articles to show to prospective employers.

      Another good tip would be to offer a few free articles in return for references.
      Hey Joe,

      way ahead of you buddy! hehe, already did that, and got myself a few testimonials. Thinking of offering another few free articles, just to flesh out it out abit more.

      So what's the best thing about writing for you?

      I think for me, is that I can do it anywhere, online or offline. I can work online at home, in my comfortable clothes, and work when I want to, rather than around a specific day-to-day schedule.


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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    The thing that makes writing a great method of earning for me is that it comes without much effort. Both my mother and stepfather are high school english teachers. I've graded so many papers, seen so many mistakes, and picked up so many tricks along the way that I can write about any topic I choose with confidence.

    With that confidence comes speed. I can pump out 500 words in about 15 minutes, 20 if I'm not focused.

    Anyways, the point of my tangent is that being able to do something a lot better than others makes it fun for me.
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    • Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      The thing that makes writing a great method of earning for me is that it comes without much effort. Both my mother and stepfather are high school english teachers. I've graded so many papers, seen so many mistakes, and picked up so many tricks along the way that I can write about any topic I choose with confidence.

      With that confidence comes speed. I can pump out 500 words in about 15 minutes, 20 if I'm not focused.

      Anyways, the point of my tangent is that being able to do something a lot better than others makes it fun for me.

      I get what you're saying. Like you say, writing comes relatively easily to me, I love crafting words like an art to say the same thing someone without much writing skill would say in a completely different, more articulate way than the usual stuff.
      Again, as you've said, writing comes quickly when you write with confidence. After I've finished researching a topic, the article seems to flow by itself. All I have to do is sort out the keywords, and all the technical aspects, and it's done.
      I love it! Haha

      Thanks for sharing man,


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    • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
      Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      I can pump out 500 words in about 15 minutes
      That's what's killing me. If I don't know the subject it's gonna take me at LEAST half an hour to do 500 words. A lot of my work comes from internet marketers who have uncommon niches (for example: CNC) so I'm researching, trying to find a fresh angle, etc.

      I'm considering writing for a few select niches only. I'd love to churn out 4 or 5 articles an hour.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Also got a copywriting forum here
    The Copywriting Forum
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Also got a copywriting forum here
      The Copywriting Forum
      Regular ghostwriters or article writers aren't really welcome there, though. That section is for sales copy, not general writing. Some of them will really jump on you if you try to discuss every day writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author traeth
    Hi Ben;

    I've written for over two years and here is something that could happen and you need to be prepared. I had too much writing success at first and couldn't handle the load. It was not fun going back to customers and having to delay their order and for some refund.

    Make sure you are realistic with you ability to write for a variety of topics. Some topics I can pump out a very good article in 15 minutes others maybe 30, but think about writing 20 articles a day. It is a lot of writing, becomes mind numbing at times, and if you are not careful may become sloppy.

    I resorted to hiring writers to help me get over the bump, but that again was a big learning curve too. and slowed me down.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
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    Here is a tip from a buyers perspective although I am sure some writers will disagree and thats ok.

    Give an indication of your rates on your website, just a ballpark figure so the buyer has an idea of your rates. Most guys who need content will be too busy to email for an idea of rates and you could lose some jobs or also waste time answering their emails if their budget is very low.

    Also agree with the point about trying to keep a steady workload , I recently enquired about articles from 2 warriors who were advertising on the forum for work but after 3 days still no reply as I think they are swamped !
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    One is write as many good quality articles as you can daily...so the more possibility of page views for you
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  • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
    I like writing because it fits in well around my children. I can pick and choose when I want to work, and it is very portable. I stick to topics I'm an expert in, so it's not really like work.

    The biggest issue I struggle with is distraction.
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    • Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

      Does anyone here use the Nuance Dragon speech recognition software?
      I have Version 10.0, and I find it very hit and miss when picking up what I'm saying!

      Anyway, thank you all for your replies! I can see where there would be a problem with writing TOO much, as it would be tiring, and after a while you'd just want to be finished as quickly as possible! Hehe

      Kevin, I believe you are right I'll change my website accordingly!


      Keep these responses coming! I love to hear from you all


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      • Profile picture of the author Yogini
        Since Kevin wrote about the buyer's perspective, I'd like to add that as someone who looks for article writers too that for me the research aspect is the most important. I really find it most helpful when someone will find three or four tips, remedies etc for the article that gives solid information. I've gotten back articles from people in past that were well-written, but didn't have information that blog readers would find that informative. I think getting relevant facts, details and features is at least what I am looking for when I hire someone, but probably the most time-consuming.

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        • Originally Posted by Yogini View Post

          Since Kevin wrote about the buyer's perspective, I'd like to add that as someone who looks for article writers too that for me the research aspect is the most important. I really find it most helpful when someone will find three or four tips, remedies etc for the article that gives solid information. I've gotten back articles from people in past that were well-written, but didn't have information that blog readers would find that informative. I think getting relevant facts, details and features is at least what I am looking for when I hire someone, but probably the most time-consuming.

          Debbie
          Debbie, I understand perfectly what you're saying. I've talked with friends on here who have had dealings with writers in the past, who then had to change almost the whole article because of it's lack of actual relevant information. It's terrible really. I loathe the idea of taking someone's money and giving them little to nothing in return. In each of my articles, I put 110% in, trying to give more to my clients than they ask for if possible.
          The truth is, as a writer who is passionate about working in this area, I spend MORE time doing the research than actually writing the article! It seems that when I've finished full researching something (by this, I mean actually spending time covering the internet in search of several websites of information, wikipedia, anything I can lay my hands on, rather than ONE website, which is what a lot of writers do these days sadly..)the information just seems to flow by itself and the article takes about 15-30 minutes to write.


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  • Profile picture of the author Wilding
    This is all spot on.

    I'd also add that the most important thing I do is to NOT work at home. I rent a very nice office not too far away and that allows me to focus and be super-productive without all the little distractions that being at home can bring. It's also a great thing to keep your home as a place for pure relaxation. Just because you CAN work at home doesn't mean you should.

    x3xsolxdierx3x: Speech-recognition? Stay away. I've tested them all. They force you to speak differently, you end up spending a lot of time editing afterwards and the time-saving is minimal if any. Rather get your typing speed up.
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    • Originally Posted by James Fortzman View Post

      This is all spot on.

      I'd also add that the most important thing I do is to NOT work at home. I rent a very nice office not too far away and that allows me to focus and be super-productive without all the little distractions that being at home can bring. It's also a great thing to keep your home as a place for pure relaxation. Just because you CAN work at home doesn't mean you should.

      x3xsolxdierx3x: Speech-recognition? Stay away. I've tested them all. They force you to speak differently, you end up spending a lot of time editing afterwards and the time-saving is minimal if any. Rather get your typing speed up.
      Doesn't renting an office cost quite abit though? However small?

      And you're right about the voice software. Honestly did find it quicker to type than to spend time fiddling around with it. :p


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