14 Free Traffic Strategies for 2012 that DON’T Depend on Google

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While not totally a non-Google approach to traffic, this is a good solid article about getting more visitors to your site.

In addition, the posts starts with a look at his own sites numbers.

http://www.stevescottsite.com/free-t...trategies-2012

Joe Mobley
#main internet marketing discussion forum #2012 #depend #don’t #free #google #strategies #traffic
  • Pretty much the same old stuff. He's just presenting the content in a different way.

    While I do work with non Google traffic, this list is pretty much useless in my opinion.

    Thanks anyway for posting this, maybe some newbies can get good ideas from this list :-)

    Mike
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    • Mike,

      Hopefully you're not as condescending to your clients and potential clients as you are in your posts.

      Oh... and you're getting ~23,000 hits per month at your site?

      Joe Mobley


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    • WOW dude...I wouldn't call it useless. Kind of sucks to see you say that.

      Just because people have already "heard" of a traffic technique; doesn't mean that it has zero value. Some are techniques I've used to successfully build MULTIPLE successful web properties. Others are ones I'm currently testing and hope to report back with the results on my blog.
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    • Your 100% right, there is nothing new here, old wine in new bags, i don't understand why people are biting your head off for your comment, some people can't handle the truth obviously
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  • Those are some very impressive numbers considering big G's minimal involvement. Whether Steve Scott does the work himself or hires it out, it's time/money well spent! The information on that blog post is WSO worthy. Thank you for sharing this!
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  • This is how best-selling WSO Authors can get 1000+ sales in just 1-2 days... their list and their affiliates' lists.

    Look at Groupon and any other daily sites... They're really focus on building the list.
    Also, Facebook... the site can be so huge in just months because of list building and not SEO.
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    I have seen them before too. He just said it in a differnet way. I am sure some warrior made some posts regarding this some time ago too.
  • That was a nice post. I had no idea that Kindle books could be so effective. I'm glad I read it.
  • Some interesting strategies here - definitely worth a read. You could add in forum posting, article syndication, and question and answer sites.
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    • lots of platform those hep to making traffic to site without depend on google like do online marketing, social networking websites,
    • I agree with all of these and I personally attest to the Kindle material
  • There were some good points which I didn't know earlier. Thanks for the info
  • Point no.6 was pretty new to me...
    Most other techniques are widely known.
    Thanks for sharing.
  • Hey Joe - Thanks for sharing my post...Seeing this was a great way to start the day!
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    • Steve,

      I didn't know you had a boat in this river.

      I picked this (your post) up from Twitter. It looks like you have pretty good stuff on your site. I would encourage you to share more of it here.

      There is a wide range of experience here. I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from your content.

      All the best,

      Joe Mobley


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  • Thanks for sharing this =)
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  • Might think of article submit , press release submit, link exchange , directories, social bookmarking might you get numbers of traffic as well .
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    Hey Joe, that's a pretty good post. Just got refreshed. Thank you for providing it here!
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    • I agree the numbers seem staggering, but I have been at this steadily for over 15 years. As I have said many times in my posts, article syndication is a simple marketing model that can be scaled up virtually unlimited. For any given viable niche, there are millions of potential publishers of articles.

      My articles are regularly distributed to a combined reading audience of roughly 30 million every week, and growing. An average of 5 new publishers are added to my syndication network weekly. And each of these publishers may have anywhere from a few hundred to hundreds of thousands of subscribers. This is the power of leveraging your efforts through article syndication.

      What do you think all the "Media Buy peeps" are doing wrong?

      You're low-balling my initial average affiliate sales price by at least a factor of 6, and this does not even include reorders and additional followup sales.

      Yes, I have been known for doing this - in fact, quite frequently.

      More; lots more.

      Every morning, at least 4 miles.

      You don't have to believe me; just believe it is possible. Many here on this forum are doing as well, and some are even doing much better than I. You seem to have what it takes already, with your advertising experience. Give it a shot.
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  • Thanks for the ideas. I’ll be using as many as I can from launch, I’ve got a Twitter and Facebook presence, am starting some guest posting, and have a pretty good email list. I like your suggestions and more to improve my site.
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    • Thanks for the suggestion mate, am just learning about PPC now. I think what you said about twitter is becoming right but am getting some good traffic from Facebook that i cant blame really.
  • "Exactly who's plonker are you trying to pull here?..."

    I'm sorry, I busted out laughin on that one monkey! Spit my Budweiser up all over the keyboard.
  • Awesome read. Thanks for sharing. I also like the Twitter article he made on his site.
  • Thanks for the report, but I didn't see online PR on it. Sending out press releases is a very powerful tool that can get you a lot of traffic.
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    • My apologies to the OP for this thread disruption. But inquiring minds really want to know. Earnings from article syndication marketing has been growing exponentially; it has actually never been even close to being this high in previous years. My company is on target to net $200 million this year from affiliate sales, through article syndication. This increase is due primarily to the recent addition of a number of high-circulation publishers to my syndication network, which has grown to nearly 50,000 online/offline outlets over the last 15 years.
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  • With all due respect it is a little hard to believe that if someone nets 200 million a year, still is on WF and takes time to keep defending himself that he really is making this kind of money.
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    • You assume everyone is here because it "cost effective." We're not.

      The 'disbelieving group' has run out of the forum many well-known marketers who make a ton of dough. Instead of criticizing, I suggest grabbing a pen and asking a ton of questions.

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  • THANKS A LOT FOR THIS! It's awesome D
  • I don't claim to know all the facts, but last I heard, I think Paul said he has 25 employees, and that since he is selling physical products, his overhead is going to be much higher than most info product affiliates.
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    • You have not out-and-out called Paul a liar, but you have insinuated such several times, even in this response.



      If you are selling that $21,000 antique table leg through the Amazon affiliate program, you will be earning somewhere between 4% and 15% commission.

      Your "overheads" will be whatever money you spent to get that customer to the checkout page.

      While you might pay $25 to write and syndicate an article, that is not the model that the more successful "article marketers" follow.

      We tend to pay our researchers, writers and editors well, and yes, we typically hire all three positions to complete the writing process.

      If you are only paying $25 to write and syndicate your articles, then we obviously pay our writing team and syndication people far more money than you are paying for the same work.


      I don't know the kinds of numbers that Paul has done using "article syndication and blog posts". I can only speak to what I have remembered Paul saying previously here in the forum and the business model he has described. He has said before that he uses "article syndication and blog posts" as his lead generation model, to bring people into his sales funnel in order to sell physical products.

      I can also speak to what I have done with "article syndication and blog posts". "I" have also personally generated far more revenue using "article syndication and blog posts" than many people will believe is even possible.

      Most people think article syndication is a wet dream, fantasy, bull**** advertising model. And, the way most people do it, it probably is. But, the way some of us do it, it can be a very lucrative advertising model.

      I have, for myself, created {} in revenue using "article syndication and blog posts".

      Are you prepared to suggest that my testimony is also "statistically unlikely"?

      The only difference between what I have done and what Paul does everyday is a matter of scale.

      He writes and syndicates more articles than I do, and he does so at such a scale that he is going to do far more volume than I have ever done using the "article syndication" advertising model.



      Your "disbelief" does not mean that someone is full of ****. It only means that you are making your decisions about whether something can be done based on your "limited knowledge and personal belief system".
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    There is no new addition. But all of them are cool and effective. But the real thing is that if you try to avoid Google and try to get traffic then you will not get good response. The only way to get huge number of visitors is to depend on the SE and do what they want.
    thanks
  • Interesting thread on traffic! Bookmarking it.
  • The publishing on Amazon with Kindle tip is gold. Thanks.
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    • What I have been trying to share with all of you here is the very powerful marketing concept of article syndication for driving traffic. Nearly everyone seems to be using it far below its potential. As I have mentioned many times throughout my posts on this topic, over 90% of my traffic comes from article syndication. And being in some of the most hotly competitive niches, this method really does beat the competition all-to-hell.

      The ultimate in article syndication is to consider your reading audience as a virtual email list. Build relationships with these readers just as if they were already subscribed to your own lists. This is what I have done over the years with a growing virtual "list" of now 30 million readers of my articles. Rather then getting them to "opt-in" with a freebie, they instead buy upon my recommendations and opt-in for additonal products. Consequently, there is seldom less than a 15% conversion rate on subsequent niche email promotions.

      As the email promotions progress through the autoresponder sequence of incrementally higher end products, additional marketing processes begin such as webinars, postal mail, telemarketing, and even face-to-face selling through my commissioned sales reps. These reps handle specialty products and equipment often selling at prices hovering near seven figures. Subscribers who don't buy within any marketing cycle are culled from the list and sold as leads to other marketers.

      For those with apparently very little experience in running a multi-million dollar privately held corporation, there are significant expenses such as taxes (a biggie), payroll, sales commissions, utilities, mortgage, insurance, accounting, transportation, legal (ahem), and other incidental fees and expenses.

      P.S. I hardly ever write articles anymore. Instead, for each of the 67 niches in which I market, these articles are written by a full-time staff of researchers/writers.
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  • Use social media tough..
    especially add with some ads..
    I think that's the best way
  • Thats a lot of traffic considering you dont have to use google. I am going to try it
  • It's a cool article, friend.

    It's not very ground-breaking, but it's cool.

    I think it's gonna confuse a lot of people because they're going to get overwhelmed with SO many traffic generation strategies lol

    I still believe the best way to start with traffic is Facebook Ads and/or YouTube.
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    There are only 12 traffic strategies . Google + and youtube belong to google.
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      Did you read the text you quoted?
      The more you know.
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    • Yea, I picked up on that myself the first time I read the post. I did think there was enough in the post to help a few people here.

      Joe Mobley

  • That's a great post, now-a-days everyone relays on Google, that should not be good.
  • I agree with 14 techniques to get traffic, it is now I do. now to be done is to repeat these steps are always 14. but thanks for a sharing.
  • This forum post got WAY off topic. Though I do appreciate the traffic to my site :-)

    Anyway, I'm not one to debate about the merits of article syndication and if someone is making up a story or not. I know that article marketing worked for me from 2006 to 2010; so *maybe* it can produce measurable results for your biz.

    If you're interested in what Paul or "Myob" is talking about here are some posts about article syndication on WF:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3188316
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...explained.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ifference.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-question.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...mith-myob.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-wonders.html

    Like any traffic technique; I'm going to try it myself and THEN pass judgement about whether it works or not.
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  • Well when I clicked the link to read this thread, I wasn't expecting all this.

    James Scholes
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    • Wow lots of information! The site is bookmarked
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  • OK, we had enough of prelude already, when are the "show me your websites Mr. SmartPants" and "prove it!" type of questions/commands making their appearance?
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      No. See the offhanded joke I made right before you? See how both sides thanked the post? It was an unspoken way of saying "We're not going to agree with each other, and this battle may very well be fought again. But today, we walk away as men. There is nowhere else productive for this to go."

      Don't bring them back. It's already a miracle that this thread hasn't been locked/deleted yet.
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  • Joe - you're right. Sorry for coming across as trying to inflame the dispute. But by looking at the direction the things were heading, it would not have been long until something like that would have surfaced, and I'm still surprised it didn't took place earlier in the thread.

    Still, that was a nice (and productive!) argument, and I do hope they remain friends.
  • Never thought about the Kindle thingy before to create buyers' list , or the trophy pigeon post. Still I learn several things from the article. Guest posting is still my goddess, though.

    Paul Uhl -- been checking your sig and surprised that if you're claiming to make 500m+ you're not gonna host your squeeze page in a free hosting even if according to you it's to avoid preying eyes or something. And I bet you can make a much better squeeze page than you have now. You could be making money from article syndication, but with that kind of earning you'll be featured at Fortune 500. Just sayin'. But I've learned a thing and two from your past posts too.
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    • Hi Viramara,

      Don't tell the drunken monkey, but contrary to what he claims, I actually did not make all that much yet. But anyway, how do you like my new sig, hosted on my free site promoting a Fortune 500 Clickbank product?
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  • I love that "building a list" is one of the tips. Doesn't building a list require traffic in the first place? =P
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    • It does. But a list allows you to order traffic on demand, getting your previous visitors to return frequently.
    • Yeah, i was wondering why "Building a list" falls under one of the 14 free traffic building strategies.

      Anyway, i do have avenues that i would always go to for free traffic. They are listjoe and listbonus. With the free account, they allow you to send up to 6000 emails to members per week. With ListBonus.com it's 1000/wk

      My CTR with ListJoe is typically around 1.5-2.0%, so typically I will get 100+ sets of eyeballs on my Squeeze page with them. While with ListBonus.com I typically get around 4% CTR, so around 40 people get to see my offer. That's around 150 people a week who get a chance to join my list. And it's free, that is the best part of it. However listjoe is currently under maintainence.
  • everyone see the problem here.

    The newbies are looking for the HOLY GRAIL of traffic online.

    I will break this gently to you....GUESS WHAT?.....there is no holy grail.

    I know that my friends who do well...and the reason I do well is PPC.

    Now I am not saying FREE traffic does not work, infact we still use FREE traffic alot to test things. But paid traffic and LIST building has worked wondered for our business. Infact I went from a newbie to 5 figures a month very quick from using these.

    Do not look for the holy grail...I would say look for 1 or 2 very good ways to drive traffic to your site or optin page and sell to your list. Seriously nothing works better than having a list of people you can send to your sales pages / offers / membership sites. Its like having an INSTANT BOOTLOAD of targeted traffic you can send to your site instantly with the push of a button.

    I also have a 2 media buy ads on specific blogs (with very high traffic) that cost me about $200 a month each, but they bring in over $12,000 in sales (profit that is) per month.
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    • Agree in principle, but people who are looking for traffic are looking for the wrong things.

      Folks should be looking for traffic that converts.

      We can get mega-tons of traffic every single day that does not convert -- the really clever ones get mega-tons of traffic that leads to sales conversions.

      Once you are getting sales, it should not matter whether the traffic is free or paid, so long as you can convert that traffic at a level that allows you to keep earning a profit.
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    • That seems an odd statement for someone with a sigline that says:
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  • Good info, a bit old stuff, but i am sure its new for many people.. Thanks for the share
  • The essence of the article is quite relevant after the wake of Google penguin and updates like that.

    There is no doubt Google can be your biggest source of traffic. But at the same time you should not completely rely on Google for traffic. If you are, you may be taking one of the biggest risk at present context, specially after those inconsistent algo update.

    Diversifying the traffic source is key now.
  • LOLz... zzzzzz
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  • Great list! Always looking for new traffic sources as I'm really trying to weaken my dependance on Google. Am so sick of trying to keep up with all of these algorythm chances and hate being at the mercy of the big G.
  • HI Joe.
    I've just read the link and it ALL looks useful to us newbies. Thanks also to MYob and drunken monkey for bringing a smile to my face.
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    I also agree with Val Wilson. Forum posting is one of the best way to get traffic and very good quality at that too.
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  • The most challenging of all business comes down to list building, and I'm doing the free method without paying..not easy after all.. =)
  • If you find free traffic method that works without Google, you can capture leads from it.
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    • Very impressive! Keep it up. At that rate you will also exceed Manchester United's monthly club income of $37,000,000 within 43 years!
      jk
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  • OK, wait a minute...42,000/day x $30/sale = HOLY CRAP!!!

    Hey, did I ever tell you all about the time I wrestled with a sasquatch?...
  • Thanks for posting...
  • I'm a big fan of forum marketing for solid, community-driven traffic.

    In addition, posting to forums is far more interesting than other forms of "backlinking".
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  • Sorry Bill...But I'm with Brian. I get to those sites using specific keyword searches in Google.

    This doesn't mean that there's not tons of traffic from non-google resources, only that it wasn't a good example.
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    • LOL

      Good point.

      As fin said the other day, "chalk it up to me getting old." :p
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  • Can I inspire someone today with this true story?

    http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...rst-sales.html
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    • Very good thread. I recommend it.

      Joe Mobley

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  • Just a point on the online outlets in which articles are syndicated, which some people say are dependent on Google: If it's an authority, well-established website, Google won't slap it because this isn't their intention. They want the quality website on top, and the weak ones at the bottom, or even out of their index.

    So if you have great articles that are worthy of publication in top-notch online outlets, take heart, most likely Google will leave them alone.

    Bill: I see you have articles syndicated on incredibly popular and respected websites, how did you do it? :confused:
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    • Awesome content that was very relevant to the audiences of the websites and newsletters that published the content.
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  • Oh look he said the word content. Yipee!
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    • Articles are such a small part of the overall picture.

      What makes people successful online?

      Content, content, content.
  • Thanks for the post!
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  • Good article!

    I think most people understand that ONLY relying on Google for organic search traffic is a VERY risky business model.

    Good to read about a few other methods from Steve Scott though so thanks for the post.
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    • Some problems with Scott's article:

      - He doesn't actually state how much, if any, traffic is received from non-Google sources.

      - Some of these strategies still make use of Google properties. Google+ - I think that is basically Google.

      - Other strategies seem to still rely on Google as the initial point of contact. For instance, building an email list requires some mechanism for people to find your website and opt-in form. If you don't have Google, what is it that drives the traffic to get email opt-ins?

      Personally, I'm a lot more interested in how MYOB grosses $500M without relying on Google than I am about some vague article theoretically suggesting Pinterest as an alternative. For instance, how much traffic do you think the Warrior Forum gets from Pinterest?

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  • This is good info. It is frustrating indeed thinking you have to depend on Google to make it. That shouldn't have to be the case, and this should help.
  • Thanks for sharing
  • thanks for sharing (y)
  • Those are some very impressive numbers considering big G's minimal involvement
  • Thank you!
  • Dang.

    I've just read every friggin post in this thread and my eyes are hurting.

    Three letters come to mind... W.T.F. ?

    Other than the OP this thread lacks any real value whatsoever - sure we've got a few links to this and that - but seriously... what profit is to be gained from such crap.

    I don't know either of the two main protagonists but surely logic must prevail... are such claims possible, yes. But they are unproven. Are they likely, well no, not in my world.

    But that's just because I've only ever worked with one company in my 20+ years in business that was doing over 40,000 sales a day... therefore I've not "seen it" (the claims made here).

    But that doesn't mean they doesn't exist. It just means I don't believe them.

    But... boys, what is it about your ego that says you feel the need to continually one-up each other?

    Both of you are generating good sales and revenue it would seem - so why not post something of VALUE that newer members and less experienced warriors can LEARN from and look to duplicate.

    I'm talking an actual step by step 'this is how I do it' post or PDF. It doesn't need to be an epic, just 2 - 3 pages of good USABLE CONTENT... not stuff that blows smoke up each other a**.

    This is my challenge to you.

    Paul Barrs
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    • Thank you Paul.

      Aside from the pissing contest, I believe that there is value in this thread for the right group of people.

      The above mentioned contest tends to drive away from the WF or at least will discourage their participation. How unfortunate.

      Again, thanks for your level headed input.

      Joe Mobley














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  • The first step to any traffic strategy is to create in-depth content around one subject. This is the best way to get repeat visitors and build an audience.
    Email marketing should be the end goal of any traffic generation strategy. Your list is where you'll build relationships with subscribers and promote affiliate offers.
  • Very nice articles! I think we don't need any SEO right now
  • Thank you for a good post!

    But Google Plus and Youtube are Google products!
    Great list of traffic strategies that we already know!
    The important thing is to work on these strategies.
  • thanks for this info
  • I go through the post (14 Free Traffic Strategies...). I found it very-2 useful information.
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    • Dude!! There are more effective ways to kill a conversation. :p
  • Those are quite common techniques. The fastest way to get traffic is by paying for it, which unfortunately is not discussed in depth.

    It could be useful for beginners though.
  • Thank you for this link. I checked out his site and I thought it was a really good resource. No matter how much you know, you can learn something new. For me it`s like reading a bible verse - you can read it a 100 times but on that 101th time you get an "ah ha" moment. It all depends are where you are in life, and in this case your business. I think its important to include all aspects of marketing and that way if Google slaps you for something, you`ve got other resources to draw on instead of putting all your eggs in one basket. I think Steves site gives you alot (not all) of different methods. I even found a link to another site from his on something I`ve been needing to learn about. Like Bill has mentioned - never stop learning!
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  • Awesome!! He is teaching the way I am doing....Hooray!!! He teaches about knowing something about your niche and gaining trust from the people you expect to sell too. How refreshing to put honesty back in business!!
  • Perhaps Paul does all of his financial calculations using Zimbabwean dollars?
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    • "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn."

      - Benjamin Franklin
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  • "Oh what a tangled web we weave,When first we practise to deceive!"

    - Sir Walter Scott
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    • "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

      - Theodore Roosevelt
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  • "The glasses are pretty much all crystalled out, all bling-bling, but when you put them on you can’t really see.. so I don’t think you can't drive with them.. because you’ll get a ticket."

    - Snookie, Jersey Shore, Season 2, Episode 2
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      I'm not the only Warrior who watches it!

      "Yeahhhh buddy."

      -DJ Pauly D, various times, Jersey Shore
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  • Nice share dude

    But I think, google still can be good alternative to bring in huge traffic with targeted keyword (maybe for adsense site)
    But maybe forum also powerfull to drive targeted visitors to convert to a sale

    Just on our own choice

    No google, Not die
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  • "Call or raise a bluffer".

    Kurt - basic poker tip.
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  • lmao @ Paris Hiltons Knickers ;o)
  • I liked that the thread goes off track,
    but thanks for the free traffic tips!
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    How I keep seeing things when we circle back to this:

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    • Maybe that's why the new Directory of Ezines is absolutely atrocious, lol.

      And if anyone says it's not I definitely call liar.
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    • I guess I'd like to know a few things as well. Not about how much money MYOB makes. From what I've seen, if he can get his articles published in different places there's no doubt he has at least built it up to a 7 figure income in 15 years.

      I was just wondering why you only promote to buyers. We all know how much lower conversions are with an affiliate link on a page.

      I'm interested to know why he doesn't just have a freebie to get them on the list, try to turn them into a buyer for a few weeks and then cull them from his list.

      Common sense tells me he would make a lot more money. Just curious.
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  • Bill, thanks for the DOE review. I was considering to join it, but have heard another reviews on several places saying that the ezine listings are out of date, non-responsive, the solo ads underdeliver/ not-delivering. Maybe it's better to contact the niche website owners who have mailing lists from Google, and contacting them, no? You can save the $200 for another quality solo ads.
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    • That is fine, but you may find as I did that it is very difficult to find the bloggers who actually have mailing lists.

      If you can figure out the right query to use in Google to uncover that information, please feel free to share.
  • Interesting list.
    will take a look
    thanks
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    Ok, Old and new methods and #6 rullzz
    Good info.
    Thanks
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  • hey! that was awesome article thanks for the sharing, I am almost following all the things, but still one or two missing, thanks for sharing, I will follow all the things...
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