Double Optin Experience

I only ever use single opt in now

I never use double opt in unless it`s for a pre launch list or something

I have found that double in, you lose too many subscribers and it doesnt matter if your free gift is very valuable, some people just still never confirm

Also the other reason is that using single opt in, you can use one time offers which can prove to be very very profitable if done right

Paul

The highest I've ever managed is about 88%, and that wasn't easy at all.

Among my "main lists" I currently have 3 confirmed opt-in and 5 single opt-in.

I decide which to use mostly on a niche-by-niche basis, and probably don't always get it right.

I'm strongly inclined toward single opt-in unless I have a specific reason for wanting the confirmation.

I'm not involved with any "IM"/"MMO" niches, but would perhaps want the confirmation for those, as well as being less concerned about losing people through lack of confirmation, in those areas.

It strikes me that many of the reasons advanced in favor of the confirmation method, in previous discussions here of this subject, have been fallacious and illogical. If people are going to forget who you are and why they originally opted in, and "report spam", I don't believe that having confirmed their opt-in at the time they signed up is somehow going to prevent or dissuade them.

I see that confirmed opt-in can have advantages, under some circumstances, and I understand why autoresponder companies give us the (often highly selected) information about it they do, but I still think it's widely overrated and often unnecessary.

People hardly ever confirm these days. You'll be lucky if half the people who opted in actually confirm. Single opt in is great.

88%?
That sounds way too nice.

We did a test on one of our websites and the confirmation rate is at 21%.

The major issue with single opt-in to me is that it leaves you wide open to abuse.

Let's say I bought a product from you and it ended up annoying me and I wanted to put you out of business here's what I could do if you were using single opt-in.

I would go all black hat and buy thousands of bot hits to join your list. As these are automatically stored in your account and emails send out it would raise a massive red flag with your autoresponder and give you a major headache.

Overall double opt-in will mean you lose subscribers, but to me that's better than losing my entire list and business from one clever but disgruntled customer.

21% is really low

if your offer is genuinely good, the majority will double optin

sometimes you need to keep it real simple and tell them somewhere on the page that they need to confirm their subscription to get "X" product

Seems like alot of people on this thread just dont understand the power of the double opt-in. It filters out alot of rubbish and the way i collect double opt ins without fail is when the user purchases an item and the download details are sent to them.. this way they have to verify in order to gain access to product. Also, make you wording enticing enough. Noone going to give you their valuable details for nothing, so somehting like i will give you Free product Worth $297 if you access NOW if you do a pre sell and they click the link in their email to get instant access. Double opt ins are saying yes please message me and covers your ass with FTC who are not playing about these days.. they always looking for someone to make a example out of for joke...