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I have an idea:

1. Write a few short reports in the field of mind power/self improvement niche
- to be specific, let's say it is about managing your emotions so that it does not interfere with your daily life.
- the meat of the report would be along the lines of helping one to understand how emotions can take control of oneself and providing a few ideas on how to identify and manage the things which severely affects him/her.


2. take the reports and put them up as a WSO to build a list and also as way to obtain feedback about the report and seed ideas for the next reports.

-lets say you call them the "5 dollar mind bites" and charge them 5 bucks. 5 bucks should be alright. Write that sales copy from your heart and tell them what you are trying to impart in the report. I believe in this sort of thing.

3. Repeat until have a list and start solo ad blasts to gain more subscribers.

use real content, bits of useful stuff which they may not have time to look for/can't be bothered to look for/lazy/dont know where to look for.


4. So, now you just recompile all your hot reports, add in a few more info and package them as a $10 report.


OK now, just let me play with some numbers ok haha

So after a repeating step 3 a few times...ok many times.. you get like 10,000 people on your lists from ad blasts/swaps/forums/anyway you want to tell people about your reports..

I.e. 10,000 people waiting on you to release your next report.

say 10% converts, 1000 x 10 dollars: $10,000.00 instantly.


5. Let's take this one step further.

Create a sales page for each of the hot reports (yeah the 5 dollar reports), allow affiliates to sell them for 100% commissions. and yes, you will still have your main site where all your reports are.

Use those scripts like rapid action profits.

-WHY 100%
-affiliates will bring other affiliates in.buyers turn into affiliates knowing you make easy 100% commission. these affiliates will bring in more buyers who will turn into affiliates etc...
-when you release a new report, you get to announce it first to your list since whoever who bought your report, via affiliate or not, will have to go thru your opt in. cha ching.
- buyers of the other affiliates will go to your main site and buy your other reports.

So, you now have a method to create your leads and grow your list. tada.


However, this is contingent upon whether your product does indeed provide value. you ever picked up a good book that you just can't put done and just want to finish reading it, as if your livelihood depended on your finishing and turning each page and the longer you read, the more entrenched you become in the world of that little book. yeah? aim to create stuff like that. stuff that makes your mind explode. stuff to inspire works on me.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    It's a good idea but not for Warrior Forum. Traditionally, self development stuff doesn't do well here. People on this forum are far more interested in fast profits and easy money systems. When I got here I watched several self improvement WSOs sit absolutely still. There was one successful hypnosis offer but other than that personal development typically doesn't fly without a clever hook.

    But that doesn't mean your idea isn't a good one. In your first point you mentioned mind power. That has the particular ring the audience here likes. The problem presenting something like that would be you'd have to dance very close to the credibility and ethics line to make it work. If you were selling a mind power program it would need to do more than simply managing your own emotions.

    Most people here would need to believe they could use the info to persuade or even trick others into doing things they might not otherwise do. Sad but true.

    But hey. Don't take my word for it. I don't know what you have. It might be the exception to the rule. Put it out there and see what happens. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kendrick
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      But that doesn't mean your idea isn't a good one. In your first point you mentioned mind power. That has the particular ring the audience here likes. The problem presenting something like that would be you'd have to dance very close to the credibility and ethics line to make it work. If you were selling a mind power program it would need to do more than simply managing your own emotions.
      I was thinking of eventually recording all the small reports, compile them into a series of sorts and sell them with resale rights. then i plan to approach super affiliates in the mind power niche and offer resale rights to a few of them as well
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt@viewswin
    Well I can only speak for myself but I would never buy somthing like that and compared to other members on WF, I am a newbie! However I think that about most of the WSO's on offer here. Can anyone answer who does buy these things? I guess if you did you would be too embarrassed to say so.

    No harm in trying though mate
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshua Lowenthal
      The fact is you would be more likely to sell the opening post of your thread with some tutorial like reports and maybe some videos on top to show how it works for $10 from the get go and be successful, than to try and connect with the audience through the main concept niche you speak of.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    if your target is the warrior forum, call it coaching not self improvement
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    You have the right kind of thinking. Most of what you said is right. But I'll tell you where you would get more value out of this train of thought.

    First of all, travelinguy is right. You're thinking about creating the product, before you think about what the market wants. This would prove to be your number one crucial mistake.

    The formula for success using your marketing formula is: "What does the market want?" + "What am I willing to deliver that meets those desires?

    Frankly, you're doing it backwards. Some people get lucky that way. But like I said travlinguy is right. People here likely won't be interested.

    But you can try it. Just know ahead of time that you're getting good advice: That if you list "mind stuff" as a WSO it will probably sit there and attract cobwebs and crickets.

    I know from doing it myself years ago.

    The other problem in my opinion is trying to guess or predict your conversion stats, and make a decision based on that. You should never do that.

    First you should figure them out.

    Sure, it's a good way to sell people on an idea: "Just get xyz conversion and you're set! Buy now!" But in business, you need a real set of data to analyze.

    It will definitely not be $10,000.00 "instantly" is what I'm trying to say. And it's more difficult to get affiliates to promote for you than they will lead you to believe.

    But generally, you're on the right track. Maybe take your mind power stuff to a list of people who are into buying mind power stuff. The key word is buying.

    Maybe like Steve Pavlina forums and things like that.

    Members here generally do not buy that type of stuff as a stand alone product. They might buy it as a bonus or an add-on to a money making system, but by itself.

    At least not in big enough numbers to support your desired outcome.

    But the solo-ad thing? Definitely reasonable. Just find the right list.

    Marc

    PS. By the way, it's not really contingent on whether your thing provides value or not... on the front end. They won't know it's valuable until they buy. That's a back end concern.

    On the front end, your main concern is, "Will they buy it?" because then it doesn't matter how valuable it is. It will still collect dust.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    Kendrick,

    I love your can do attitude!

    My only suggestion pertains to buying Solo Ads to promote this strategy.

    Most solo list providers have obtained their lists through internet marketing freebies or products, the empower network, pure leverage, etc. I'm not really sure that the subs you receive from those solo's would be interested in purchasing 'mindset' products - and I could be wrong since I am speaking from theory and not experience.

    What I can tell you is that if you believe in this product and you are sure that you are solving your markets problem with this product than you will do very well.

    You definitely know that your thoughts and beliefs create your reality so I wish you luck moving forward but rethink the solos. I think there may be better ways to accumulate the right type of list for your product.

    Brendon
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    • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
      Originally Posted by Brendon Zahrndt View Post

      Kendrick,

      I love your can do attitude!

      My only suggestion pertains to buying Solo Ads to promote this strategy.

      Most solo list providers have obtained their lists through internet marketing freebies or products, the empower network, pure leverage, etc. I'm not really sure that the subs you receive from those solo's would be interested in purchasing 'mindset' products - and I could be wrong since I am speaking from theory and not experience.

      What I can tell you is that if you believe in this product and you are sure that you are solving your markets problem with this product than you will do very well.

      You definitely know that your thoughts and beliefs create your reality so I wish you luck moving forward but rethink the solos. I think there may be better ways to accumulate the right type of list for your product.

      Brendon
      I agree.. you should google "your niche + forums" and also try the yahoo answer method.. Clickbank would be a good place as well to market that niche..
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  • Profile picture of the author Kendrick
    Hey guys, thanks for the feedback! I'll be back with a refined idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Modrov
    Great enthusiasm. The foundation of your idea and blueprint which includes specific numbers however sounds a lot like a War Room report From Allen the WF owner in which he calls it Hot Reports.

    Its an incredibly well written report that you should read but it looks like you already have read it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kendrick
      Originally Posted by Brandon Modrov View Post

      Great enthusiasm. The foundation of your idea and blueprint which includes specific numbers however sounds a lot like a War Room report From Allen the WF owner in which he calls it Hot Reports.

      Its an incredibly well written report that you should read but it looks like you already have read it.
      Yeap, I remember reading it sometime ago and I thought maybe that method could still work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Modrov
    Only one way to find out! Get to it!
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