Anyone Found A Truly Profitable Program?

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Is there anyone here on the Warrior Forum that can truly say that they have purchased a WSO and have been able to use it without too much difficulty to make a full time income within a few months? If so, which program? Would love to hear some success stories.
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  • Profile picture of the author DR0832
    Some stuff works but the question is either A. will you take the time to test it out and put it to use, or B. Do you have the resources needed? Most people think they can start a business with $100 or $500 and this really isn't true.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    I think it's more about the buyer than the seller...

    How much knowledge you have on the subject coming in will make all the difference in the world... I could tell you ten things you could do in the next hour that will make you money tomorrow - things that I consider easy. But what happens if you don't know how to do one of those steps? Or let's say you DID know how to do all ten things, then tomorrow Google changes their algorithm, would you know how to adapt those steps to compensate? Would you know if it's even possible?

    Don't look to the WSO section to make a full time income. Look to the WSO section to learn something new that has "income potential" and can be a model for getting you on the right track. If your current skill level doesn't permit you to make a full time income already, nothing you learn from a WSO is going to fill the gap. But new knowledge will always get you a step closer.
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    • Profile picture of the author ken5000
      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      I think it's more about the buyer than the seller...

      How much knowledge you have on the subject coming in will make all the difference in the world... I could tell you ten things you could do in the next hour that will make you money tomorrow - things that I consider easy. But what happens if you don't know how to do one of those steps? Or let's say you DID know how to do all ten things, then tomorrow Google changes their algorithm, would you know how to adapt those steps to compensate? Would you know if it's even possible?
      So, correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority on here that read the steps given in a WSO run into roadblocks and the few that don't get slapped by Google eventually anyway. Perhaps we need to steer clear of Google. There are other ways to make money.

      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      Don't look to the WSO section to make a full time income. Look to the WSO section to learn something new that has "income potential" and can be a model for getting you on the right track. If your current skill level doesn't permit you to make a full time income already, nothing you learn from a WSO is going to fill the gap. But new knowledge will always get you a step closer.
      This may be the best advice I've seen on here yet - that is if it's true that not one WSO can be sufficient to get you going with a full-time income. Perhaps one needs the combined knowledge of many WSO's to be able to achieve decent results. Could that be the case?
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I've made money from several of the wso's on here.
    I'm not going to list any but on one and I can't remember but his name was Chris I think, it was a CPA program. I got curious, I had already did cpa effectively but wanted to see if there was anything else out there that worked better. I made money on it and lost money but that is just how cpa is.

    I honestly don't think its the programs that make you a full time income, I think its the mentality and mindset of the individual using these programs. Take the offliner programs for instant. Not everyone can go and make money offline its just not for everybody, that has a lot to do with personality and most online also does.
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  • Profile picture of the author djneill
    I've learned a lot from a wso on list building but I have also taken some coaching as well. WSO are more information based, kind of like filling the gaps that you may be missing. I would say look at a wso as something that will help take your business to the next level. I did see a wso once on building a dating site, and the membership value on that could be very good.
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  • Profile picture of the author commerce cat
    A full time income is very subjective. That could be $20,000 or $80,000 - depends on where you live and what your needs are.

    No one will sell you a licence to make money - it's always up to you to implement.
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    • Profile picture of the author ken5000
      Originally Posted by commerce cat View Post

      A full time income is very subjective. That could be $20,000 or $80,000 - depends on where you live and what your needs are.

      No one will sell you a licence to make money - it's always up to you to implement.
      OK, you're right, so let's put it this way...
      Has anyone found a WSO that helped them to eventually make at least $4000 a month?
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      • Profile picture of the author themusiccoach
        Well I have never found one that paid that much I mean these things are under $50 it would be pretty odd. But I did get one for $7 that was better than any of the others ever and it was called HOW TO BE AN AFFILIATE ZOMBIE you can look it up it got NOTHING but pages of good reviews more than I have seen which also makes sense.

        If I find one I will put you name in my list of friends and let you know but most are not very good I think.

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      • Profile picture of the author ronrule
        Originally Posted by ken5000 View Post

        OK, you're right, so let's put it this way...
        Has anyone found a WSO that helped them to eventually make at least $4000 a month?
        Yes.

        There are people who bought one of my strategy guides that are doing more than that - but you have to know how to manage PPC campaigns in AdWords to do it.

        There are people who bought Wordpress themes that multivariate test ad positioning to increase the click rate - and have been proven to WORK. But you have to know how to configure them, install them, and have some traffic coming in.

        There are people who bought all sorts of SEO blueprints, content strategies, etc. But you have to be able to piece together the rest of the puzzle yourself.

        Heck, I even remember someone offering a WSO that was about face painting at sports events - and I know some people who do this and make that kind of money. But you have to live in a city where there's never an off-season (they have Football, baseball, basketball, etc.). Oh, and you have to be able to get into the games and have an airbrush and paint.

        And that's the problem with the question you're asking... there is no magic "make money" button. How much you make with a strategy, Wordpress tool, or anything else, will always be limited by what else you're able to do and what your existing resources are. Your skillset is the most important variable, not the WSO contents.

        I absolutely hate seeing threads from people where you could sum it up as: "I have no income, just a lot of time, I'm about to lose my house/car/whatever, which WSO will help me make some money fast?" - because those guys are doomed.
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        • Profile picture of the author ken5000
          Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

          Yes.
          Your skillset is the most important variable, not the WSO contents.

          I absolutely hate seeing threads from people where you could sum it up as: "I have no income, just a lot of time, I'm about to lose my house/car/whatever, which WSO will help me make some money fast?" - because those guys are doomed.
          And yet so many of those WSO's have stories of just that - someone who had no money, was about to lose his house/car/whatever and broke through and is now living the high life. Of course, some of them may stretching the truth a bit.

          Many of the WSO's that I have tried have had some good information, but there always seems to be some major roadblock - usually having to do with having to spend much more money. Sure there are people who just want to make a quick buck, but I believe many people who come here have good skills, but just have very limited resources.

          It's amazing to me that so far, not one person has come forward (even someone who had the resources) that has been able to say, "Yeah, I am making a full-time income now and I owe it to such-and-such WSO pointing me in the right direction." Sure you can say, I know there are people who bought my WSO who are doing it, but that is second person. Did they really? Where are they to speak for themselves?
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          • Profile picture of the author ronrule
            Originally Posted by ken5000 View Post

            It's amazing to me that so far, not one person has come forward (even someone who had the resources) that has been able to say, "Yeah, I am making a full-time income now and I owe it to such-and-such WSO pointing me in the right direction." Sure you can say, I know there are people who bought my WSO who are doing it, but that is second person. Did they really? Where are they to speak for themselves?
            Why would anyone do that?

            Think about this for a minute... when you read the comments in a WSO thread, you either see praise or critique for the viability of the strategy - not their individual results. You see individual results all the time with people selling offline/local strategies. But you hardly ever see anyone posting results unless they are negative on the autopilot type stuff. Why do you think that is?

            I can tell you why. It's because the "buyer mindset" doesn't permit it. It's against their interest to get into specifics, because if they present an attractive number that validates the pitch they create more competition for themselves.

            Here's an example. Lets say the markup for importing Peanuts from Mexico works out to about 10,000% ... and lets say I wrote a book that told you exactly what companies in Mexico you could buy Peanuts from, exactly what companies in the United States you could sell those Peanuts to, and exactly what trucking companies were properly licensed to handle transporting them. And lets say this strategy worked exactly as I described.

            Would you tell all of your friends and neighbors "Go buy this book man, it taught me how to make $60,000 a month!"?

            Only if you're a complete idiot.

            You wouldn't tell a soul. Because doing so would just create more competition for you, and competition drives down prices. If 100 new competitors came into the space, you wouldn't be making that 10,000% markup anymore. If 1,000 new competitors came into the space, the margins would be razor thin. Suddenly what was a great strategy at the time it was written became something barely worth doing. And I think most of the good WSO's suffer this fate eventually.

            But those first guys... the ones that got in early and DID make money... they're long gone. They made their cash and they're on to the next one having never said a word.
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            • Profile picture of the author ken5000
              Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

              Why would anyone do that?

              Think about this for a minute... when you read the comments in a WSO thread, you either see praise or critique for the viability of the strategy - not their individual results.
              What you say is true, but I'm not asking for specific individual results. I'm basically asking a "yes" or "no" question.

              Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

              I can tell you why. It's because the "buyer mindset" doesn't permit it. It's against their interest to get into specifics, because if they present an attractive number that validates the pitch they create more competition for themselves.

              Here's an example. Lets say the markup for importing Peanuts from Mexico works out to about 10,000% ... and lets say I wrote a book that told you exactly what companies in Mexico you could buy Peanuts from, exactly what companies in the United States you could sell those Peanuts to, and exactly what trucking companies were properly licensed to handle transporting them. And lets say this strategy worked exactly as I described.

              Would you tell all of your friends and neighbors "Go buy this book man, it taught me how to make $60,000 a month!"?
              Loved you peanuts example.

              There are many markets in this world that are not that easy to saturate. Many other markets already have so much competition in them that they are almost already nearly saturated. Most likely, I'm not going to be creating competition for them because they shared with me the general idea of what they are doing or the title of a WSO that was helpful to them. I believe there still exist people in this world who are willing to help a brother out and steer him in the right direction. At least I hope there is.
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          • Profile picture of the author DR0832
            Yes Ken most of these people selling WSO's are snake oil sales men. If you could make $10-20k a month in your underwear starting with just $50, and only working 3 hours a week like many of these ridiculous WSO's claim, you wouldn't have so many people working for $15 an hour for the man, and these con artists would be selling a WSO . The only way you make that kind of money is in the stock market and not many people have the knowledge to do this, but it takes a lot more than 3 hours a week.
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        • Profile picture of the author ken5000
          Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

          Yes.
          I absolutely hate seeing threads from people where you could sum it up as: "I have no income, just a lot of time, I'm about to lose my house/car/whatever, which WSO will help me make some money fast?" - because those guys are doomed.
          And this is not what I'm asking at all. My question is simply this, "Is there ANYONE who can say they are making consistent money (enough to pay your bills) from what you learned in a WSO? "
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          • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
            Originally Posted by ken5000 View Post

            And this is not what I'm asking at all. My question is simply this, "Is there ANYONE who can say they are making consistent money (enough to pay your bills) from what you learned in a WSO? "
            The answer to this question is yes.
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            • Profile picture of the author ken5000
              Originally Posted by Brendon Zahrndt View Post

              The answer to this question is yes.
              Thank you! That's what I like to hear! So now we know it is possible. But it seems that the one's like you who have been able to do it are few and far between.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
                Originally Posted by ken5000 View Post

                Thank you! That's what I like to hear! So now we know it is possible. But it seems that the one's like you who have been able to do it are few and far between.
                Yes, it's very possible. I'm not going to list them here but I've invested in 3 Kindle products in the WSO forum so far this year and all 3 of them are very good and one of them simply floored me on how complete it was.

                It's not cheap at about $100 buckaroos, but the creator of that particular Kindle WSO is the real deal and he updates it constantly. I think it's under-priced since it was much more thorough and complete than another course I paid nearly $500 for.

                Jumping into the Kindle market (or Nook) isn't for the faint of heart. It takes a lot of work. You can cut a lot of it by outsourcing, but hey, you still have to read and proofread the work. And a lot of people in the WSO forum are looking to make "easy" money and many of the sellers know that (you can tell just by the wording of their sales copy).

                The WSO forum is nothing more than a market place and like any marketplace you're going to have crap, mediocre, ok, good, and some great products and services. Where most people blow chunks in the WSO forum is that they go in and buy WSOs with absolutely no plan and not having any clarity on what they really want. So they end up buying stuff they really don't need.

                I had someone the other day complain to me that they were pissed off because they wanted to learn more about list building, yet they purchased about a dozen WSOs having to do with FB ads, PPC ads, and sending mobile traffic to CPA offers. Yet they openly admitted to me they didn't have time to go through the material and were more focused on list building, yet they didn't invest in one single list building WSO.

                It blew my mind.

                Of course I'm painting a very general picture here based on one conversation, but the main point is that very few WSOs that I've seen give you the whole picture. They give you one or two pieces of the puzzle and it's up to the person to put the pieces together and to take the action necessary to make it work.

                Some people think I'm nuts, but I rarely buy a brand new WSO that has just come out. First, I research the seller. Then I wait for at least a page's worth of testimonials. I only pay attention to the ones that actually purchased the product OR from people that I already know and trust.

                Then I contact those people and ask them offline if they've really used the WSO and what they REALLY think about it.

                I also purchase WSOs that my business needs. Occasionally I'll buy one out of sheer curiosity or if I think they've stolen my sales copy and may have plagerized one of my products (hey, it happens), but 99% of the time I only buy the ones that are going to give me some solid ROI.

                But the answer to your question is "yes", I've made some very good money off of WSOs over the years. In fact, I can't think of one that didn't make me a nice ROI because I only buy ones that will help my bottomline.

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        • Profile picture of the author ken5000
          Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

          Yes.
          Heck, I even remember someone offering a WSO that was about face painting at sports events - and I know some people who do this and make that kind of money. But you have to live in a city where there's never an off-season (they have Football, baseball, basketball, etc.). Oh, and you have to be able to get into the games and have an airbrush and paint.
          I like this one. A very creative idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    Are you just looking around or are you serious about becoming a success?

    If you are serious then you can take whatever you've learned so far and
    start seeing some results with it.

    Most of the time many people are looking or expecting a quick fix solution
    and then when they don't see instant results they get upset and blame the
    product itself.

    Now I do agree that some products over promise and under deliver but
    you shouldn't expect to receive the best training in the world from a $7 e-book.

    It all comes down to the mindset and whether you're willing to do whatever it
    takes to become successful.

    Many use coaching to find their fastest route to success.

    Some use initial momentum to build a huge list and buyers and reap the
    rewards from owning such a list.

    Some go on a product creation rampage and build a successful business
    that way.

    When you are ready you will find a way no matter what my friend.

    There are plenty of products that can get you up and running here at W.F.

    But it all depends how far YOU want to go and that's important also.

    All the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    Originally Posted by ken5000 View Post

    Is there anyone here on the Warrior Forum that can truly say that they have purchased a WSO and have been able to use it without too much difficulty to make a full time income within a few months? If so, which program? Would love to hear some success stories.
    The mindset you take into any program is what makes the real difference. If you assume you need something that won't present much difficultly, you may be looking at it wrong. Those that struggle the most and keep plugging away are the ones that see the real successes.

    WSOs are not always designed to make you money or to give you an easy strategy to do so. They are designed to teach you something. For my money, if I spend less than the cost of a textbook and I learn a new way to generate leads or traffic, I feel I have gotten my money's worth.

    The real key, pick a program/product/service, stick with your marketing plan and build your business on two levels: one, the fast traffic (usually paid), two, the sustainable long-term traffic (blogging, content marketing, etc.).

    Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I will tell you this. I used to be a junkie buying everything that came out and learned to write down at least three things in it that helped me. One this kept me from paying for rehashed trash. Now I don't normally have to buy them since I get them as review copies when I promote them.

    Also it helped me to better manage my projects.

    What I am trying to say if I take everything I have learned from all the programs I make in excess of 4,000 a month from them, now that is from my current knowledge and the little tips I get in these programs but yes way more than 4,000 a month. See I am counting my list also and I can earn sometimes as much as 4,000 a month just on that by itself. I could have not built as good of a list as I have though without Warriors.
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    • Profile picture of the author ken5000
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

      I will tell you this. I used to be a junkie buying everything that came out and learned to write down at least three things in it that helped me. One this kept me from paying for rehashed trash. Now I don't normally have to buy them since I get them as review copies when I promote them.

      Also it helped me to better manage my projects.

      What I am trying to say if I take everything I have learned from all the programs I make in excess of 4,000 a month from them, now that is from my current knowledge and the little tips I get in these programs but yes way more than 4,000 a month. See I am counting my list also and I can earn sometimes as much as 4,000 a month just on that by itself. I could have not built as good of a list as I have though without Warriors.
      Thank you, hustlinsmoke. This is sort of what I'm looking for. Even though it took more than one WSO to do the trick, that is very helpful to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author espe
    gosh.. I don't know why everybody is dodging the question, the guy is just asking if anyone of you has made a full time income thanks to a WSO, it's not that difficult to understand. In my personal experience no I haven't found a single WSO that helped me make a full time income BUT many WSOs has helped me understand things better and has saved me lots of time.

    You should only consider buying WSOs to learn about something you are trying to do or to find a tool that saves you time. Nobody will sell a system that makes you rich for $7, the best thing you can do is to find a mentor that is already successful.


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    • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
      Thank you so much for putting that in perspective for us. We are much more in the light now. Maybe we haven't given him a clear answer because we want him to understand that just one wso can not make everyone 4,000 a month. It's aptitude, personality, work ethics ect.

      The question can not be answered with a yes. Yeah I could say yes but that wso may do nothing for him at all.
      Originally Posted by espe View Post

      gosh.. I don't know why everybody is dodging the question, the guy is just asking if anyone of you has made a full time income thanks to a WSO, it's not that difficult to understand. In my personal experience no I haven't found a single WSO that helped me make a full time income BUT many WSOs has helped me understand things better and has saved me lots of time.

      You should only consider buying WSOs to learn about something you are trying to do or to find a tool that saves you time. Nobody will sell a system that makes you rich for $7, the best thing you can do is to find a mentor that is already successful.


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      • Profile picture of the author espe
        Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

        Maybe we haven't given him a clear answer because we want him to understand that just one wso can not make everyone 4,000 a month. It's aptitude, personality, work ethics ect.
        Absolutely, you are right. I know it also depends on the buyer


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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    You are looking at it in the wrong way... sorry.

    WSOs - despite some outlandish claims - are rarely a full business system that would provide a full time income (regardless of the amount, be it $20K or $93K).

    If you need a turnkey business all made for you, forget WSO and look for serious business opportunities.

    Novice and naive members hope to buy a $7 WSO and have a complete running business overnight. Wise WF members buy only tools in that section, never "systems". In which group you position yourself... is up to you
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Making money online is all done the same way. There is no magic product or software that is going to give you results. Once you learn to market you can capture leads and make sales in any market and niche you can think of as long as there is a demand for it. Some obvisly will take longer than others. Internet marketing and making money online all comes down to traffic and conversions. Thats it. What you need to do is decide on a market and niche you want to get involved in. Something you care about and would be glad to share it with others. Again you should pick something based around supply and demand and people need it. They need a lot of it or should I say the demand is high. Once you have that figured out and you have a product either that you created or you are affiliated with and you build yourself a landing page also known as a squeeze page and you strart to gather a subscriber base by offering value and sharing your knowledge around that product tying the full version to your paid product and that will give you front end sales. It all takes time. Put together a plan and follow it and tweak it until you are comfortable. Without a plan your running around! Don't let anybody tell you different! You will do it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    There's no such thing as a profitable plan, just as much as there's no such thing as a profitable business in a box.

    Whatever you work with and your success will ultimately be a result of how you handle your business.

    Kind of like how there's no superior martial art.

    But there are superior martial artists.

    Work on becoming a superior martial artist.

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  • Profile picture of the author SageM4ster
    There is another section on here that might give you what you are asking for Ken5000...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Sean Mize had an article marketing WSO that i was able to use to make alot of money from. You check out his site to see if he offers it on his site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diesell
    eeeeeeeeeeehhhhh.........yeh the one that teaches you how to create a WSO, and build a list ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    I would suggest reading free information and start implementing instead of looking to buy WSO'S. You need to gain knowledge and take action and God knows IM is an industry filled with scams and hype.
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      • Profile picture of the author GlenH
        The hard reality is, you're not goig to find a WSO for $7...$17... $27 that will 'make you a full-time income'
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I laughed a bit at this post.

    WHY?

    You sound like the typcial newbie in search for the holy grail product!!

    Welcome sir, that is a search that will NEVER END..... I just want to be the one to tell you there is NO HOLY GRAIL product....

    chit! I felt like I just told you there is no effin SANTA CLAUSE! lol

    But then again, someone had to break it too you.

    I do well off clickbank, but it cost me my job, 2 relationships, other friends, and many hours sitting on this bloody machine!.......

    All those gurus that say this happened overnight are bullshiting you.

    It takes many hours, much hard work, but its well worth it.

    Do you think FRANK KERN sits on a chair playing with himself, and then goes surfing, and to the local tiddy bar, and then comes home and send one email and makes like $75,000 in a few hours.

    NOPE! It took him many hours on a computer, testing, building email lists, testing more, buying traffic, gaining trust and all the rest. its lots of hard work.

    So enjoy the tiddy bar, have fun there, go surfing, get drunk and dream of the next big product lauch. But I can tell you FOR CERTAIN, that if you want to make it online, you have to spend lots of time doing hard work, studying, building products and be willing to put the hard yards in..... if you can do that, and stop buying crappy products you are not going to do anything with, then you are well on your way.

    I just told you SANTA was not real, while slapping your face, and pulling your G-STRING up over your head...... I know it hurts, infact that G-STRING sitting over your forehead thing will really sting, but deal with it, I am a REALIST!, and so should you.
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