THIS is the reason you and others fail!!

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Hey Warriors,

Sorry but I'm getting fed up with people starting threads pronouncing that they have discovered the one reason why people fail at IM.

THERE IS NO 'ONE' REASON!!!!!

People fail for lots of reasons and we have a good spread of most of them (possibly all of them) with the members of this forum.

Whatever YOUR reason is - may also apply to some others but one thing you can be sure of - it does NOT apply to everyone.

People are unique and complex creatures and make decisions differently at different times based on their experiences and beliefs up to that point.

One person may start out and be failing because of lack of education about online business and then master the knowledge but then be failing because of lack of action, which may at first be due to fear of failure, but then they overcome that and the failure is just down to lack of focus or not sticking with something that works.

So even for one person - the reason they're failing can change many times.

That's NORMAL.

So - while you may think you've discovered a secret and it may apply to you - when you start a thread with "THIS is the reason people fail" - all you're really doing is showing that you don't realise that there's more to it than you think.

It's GREAT to share what YOUR experiences are and to share what works for you so that others can take from that what they will and what can help them - but before you post that you have the answer to why people fail, please just remember that you're at best probably only partially correct for some of the people some of the time.

It's easy to get excited when you make a discovery and over-generalise about how it applies so just take a deep breath and consider sharing your insights from a "here's what is true for me at this time" perspective rather than thinking it will be true for everyone or all the time.

Andy
#mind warriors #fail #reason
  • I agree with you.

    You get tired of seeing thread after thread with similar topics.
  • I think a BIG reason would be lack of effort
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    • You've hit the nail on the head Andy.

      When people start throwing around phrases that include
      words like ONE, ONLY, NEVER, ALWAYS, etc, you can
      usually be sure that they are making some incorrect
      assumptions.

      And you're right - people are complex creatures.

      The idea that someone's success - or failure - could be
      down to ONE thing is utter nonsense because people are
      a complex system with many visible and hidden parts.

      There's no one-size-fits-all.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
  • You know, I have a similar feeling towards those who keep throwing out statistics within the 90's such as 97% of people do this or don't do that, or fail because of this... with no data to back this up at all! Just figures they've seen plastered by others who have also made them up.

    97% of people do this
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  • I fully agree with you Andy.People fail for different reasons and every person has his own reasons behind his failure.

    But one thing remains common that every successful person fails at least one time before he becomes a success.

    When I started marketing online,I failed for several months because I didn't have proper knowledge ,then once I started taking action I failed because I didn't have a proper plan.

    Once these two were in placed,I failed for the next few months due to my lack of focus.....and I succeeded only after all these 3 components got into place.

    So in my opinion the 3 basic reasons behind the failure are:
    1)Lack Of Proper Knowledge

    2)Lack Of Workable Action Plan

    3)Lack Of Focus and Perseverance

    And a person succeeeds only when all 3 components are in place and then perseverance takes care of the coming obstacles.
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    • Maybe I wasn't clear in my OP - I completely disagree....

      I completely agree that this could be true for YOU at that time...

      I completely disagree that they apply to everyone.

      Also - there is the matter of what your definition of success is.

      For some people this revolves around hitting a target of $xxx a month, for others it's about making more than enough to pay their bills and not need any other form of income, for others it's about learning new skills and accomplishing new tasks (like creating their own blog to express their views about something they're passionate about).

      So - whatever was YOUR experience is valid FOR YOU.

      Generalising and trying to create 'rules of success' or 'critical elements' are always an exercise in futility because they'll never apply to everyone.

      So - my problem is not with people sharing what was their reality - it's when they (like you just did) try to state their reality as some sort of fundamental truth for all IMers.

      Maybe I'm not making myself clear about this - but it's not about the actual 'rules' etc... it's about the assuming they apply globally. They don't and can't.

      The only reason to try and tell people they do is really about the person making the statements. Either trying to validate their own experience by suggesting it's the same for everyone, or trying to position themselves as an expert to others. Neither of these necessarily help people as much as if they just shared their experience and didn't try to load it with anything else.

      If you share your experience and let people take from it what fits - everyone wins.

      If you try to create rules that apply to everyone - they'll always be wrong and fall short or mislead people.
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  • Most people fail in Internet Marketing because they're not business entrepreneurs - they're mere opportunity seekers.
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    • Andy, I have always appreciated your level head. Thanks for a "dead on"
      assessment.

      The numbers of possible reasons why people fail would stagger most folks'
      minds.

      So many of us try to "package" some reason for failure just like many
      marketers try to package that "push button" success system. In both
      cases, it's incomplete at best and dangerous at worst.

      I myself can't count the reasons why I failed early in my IM career. Some
      was lack of knowledge. Some was lack of funds to properly invest in my
      business. Some was stress from worrying about being homeless. You'd
      be surprised how incredibly hard it is to work under that kind of stress.
      For some people...it's a killer.

      And some people just flat out don't have the intelligence to run a
      business, no matter what other people say to the contrary. We aren't
      all born with the same ability to learn. Sadly, some people are mentally
      handicapped to the point where the only way they'd be able to have a
      successful business is if they had somebody literally run it for them.

      And yes, some people aren't cut out for this...at all.

      If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't have gone through my early
      failures like I did. I would have simply taken out enough money from the
      bank in the form of a loan and hired the brightest minds in the business to
      research a niche for me and setup the whole process.

      Done.

      Yeah, it wouldn't have been as fun. It would have pretty much just been
      like investing in stocks, but it would have probably made me a lot more
      successful than I am now so that I could do the things that I really
      wanted to do with my life, like attend to my music career. Trust me, IM
      was never my first choice. It was almost thrust upon me out of
      necessity. And now that I've finally made something of myself, I spend
      as little time working these days as possible.

      My mother had a saying, God rest her soul.

      "To thine own self be true."

      And she was dead on the money with that one...another reason why so
      many people fail. They're trying to do something that they deep down
      inside can't stand.

      Okay, I'll get off my soap box now. Thank you again for shooting straight
      from the hip.
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  • It all depends on what you class as "failure". For someone who can't see how they will eat tomorow, a couple of fiverr gigs is great.
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    I beg to differ.

    I think there is one reason why everyone fails at Internet marketing. And, this one thing can overcome almost everything that people “think” stops them from succeeding.

    What's the reason? They give up too soon. That's it. That's the only reason why people don't succeed at IM.

    Success is guaranteed if you keep taking action. (Providing you're not hoping to make 100's of millions first time around. And even then you can keep going.)
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    • Well - again I think that only applies to certain definitions of 'success'.

      If the success you desire is to be a millionaire - no amount of working a bad model will get you there.

      If the success you desire is to make 'some money' then persistent action can get you there. That's not to say you won't have spent more than you made, but some people feel like they're progressing just because they have money coming in - even if it's less than what's going out.

      "success" for anyone is not guaranteed just by persistence.

      Again - generalising is what breaks your argument. If you said it was true for you and your version of success it would make perfect sense. When you say it applies to everyone - that's what makes it wrong.


      Andy
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  • It's simply a lack of effort-the only true failure-that prevents people from achieving their goals.
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    • That is False. Lack of time, resources, finances, etc all come into play. Some people assume that because effort was a major part in their own success that those who don't succeed AUTOMATICALLY lacked effort. Very, very short-sighted line of thinking. Many effortful folks have failed, many lazy people have fallen into success. You need circumstance as well.
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  • It is funny in a way to read the comments here, and I fully agree with Andy that everyone is different.

    Andy saying that one size does not fit all (true enough) ... followed by comments saying one size does fit all (wrong) ... is just plain funny.

    A way I've put it for years is don't force your limitations on me ... I have enough of my own.

    Marvin
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      Limitations. Limitations.

      This is one of the most empowering concepts I've ever discovered.

      People, literally, have the power in their hands to accomplish almost anything they want. Internet Marketing is something that anyone can be successful at. (It's not like sport.)

      And, I believe, that the only reason I can fail (and the only reason why many other people can fail) is if we stop tacking action. If you think that's something of a limitation, then I can't help you.
  • There are so many factors that come into play when it comes to making it in this business.

    There is no ONE single secret.

    If you read Think And Grow Rich, this should give you what it takes to succeed online.

    I really believe that it has all the secrets and important aspects to making it online and earning a decent income.

    Tal
  • Jonathan 2.0,

    Basically what you're saying is that anyone can become a successful business man (IM is a business at the end of the day). The answer is NO: not everyone is cut out to create, manage and grow a successful business, just like not everyone is cut out to be an artist, a sport man, a family man, etc.

    So yes, there are some innate characteristics you must have "built-in".
  • Andy, I totally agree. I think people say this stuff more for the headline and to get their post read than because it is really true. A good, catchy, curiosity inspiring headline on your thread seems to be of paramount importance in this forum. And what could be better than "THIS is the reason you and others fail!!"
  • Quote from Bill Cosby when asked what was the secret to success

    his answer was...

    I have no idea what the secret to success is, i do know the secret to failure is trying to please everyone
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  • Good point ANDY,

    I think you're touching on the fact that most people look at threads of that type (here's the one reason) and don't consider the fact that the thread starter is (in most cases) not being 100% literal, and IS only speaking from their position.

    We should all be smart enough to know that people are going to speak strictly from their perspective, in a world of billions of people, with billions of experiences and billions of different angles on the same topic.

    It always made me feel a bit edgy to watch people comment on other people's "here's the reason" posts with stuff like "NO, I don't agree, here's how it really is," as if there is actually ONE WAY, or one right perspective.

    Cmon.

    Anyway, good points my friend. Important stuff!
  • I think most people fail because they do not do proper planning. Planning is very important for every business. One should have business plan and he should execute that to get success. Secondly discipline plays important role. These two things if followed guarantees success.
  • You're right. There could be many different reasons why people don't accomplish whatever goal they set out to do - and those reasons can change over time. What is important to remember is that you learn and grow from your mistakes, then reach back and help others who are struggling in the same situations you found yourself in. That's part of what Warrior Forum is all about - building relationships and helping others succeed.
  • hey guys,
    Starting your online business can yield amazing rewards but at the same time its a big risk. There are certain reasons why a person fail or succeed to his business. I don't see failure a reason for you to stop on your business path. But it can be a motivation for you to work harder, exert a lot of effort and study on the things you are lacking on. Motivate yourself and do the ACTION! Work a little hard on your business then eventually you'll see how far your actions and motivation lead you.
    Many thanks
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    • I fully agree with you. We over generalize things but the real issue is that there are quite a number of reasons anyone can fail. The first thing is that i will like to say that FAILURE is temporary, the fact that you haven't made big money or you are not yet like the GURUS that claim to have made millions does not mean you have failed. What look like failure today may actually be an advantage because it could lead you to a great discovery of all time.Success is a process, you are probably in the process of becoming big success. Your mind is your biggest asset. What you call failure is opportunity to find out what does not work. The biggest problem is INACTION. For a whole year i paid for a domain, hosting,auto-responder and a whole internet course but i did nothing and so nothing works. Nothing works until it is worked - NO MATTER HOW GOOD A SYSTEM IS - you must shake up and work it. The real failure is when you pack up and you are not willing to try again.
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  • You are right Andy!
    There are so many reasons as people in the world!
    That is just an old fashion tactic to sell that nobody eats these times.
    Great post!
    Anthony Vides
  • I happen to agree with you too, there are many reasons people fail, however I think that the biggest problem is most people will not take responsibility for why they havent done so well and they blame everything and everyone else as to why they failed. Just my opinion ;-)
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    • Banned
      I think that's an important point Soozi.

      Many people will blame this that and the other, rather than realizing they're in control of their success and failure.
  • YouTube - Todd Snider - Statistician's Blues
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      After reading this thread again, I realized that I was being kind of stubborn and not listening to anyone.

      (Sorry.)

      All I wanted to accomplish is for people to have the same kind of mindset I have, because I think it will help them. However as Andy said to begin with, that can't apply to everyone and some people have definite limitations. That’s something I understand and appreciate now.

      Well - I've hogged enough web space with this one, and thought I'd leave on something (kind of) “inspirational.”

      ...


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  • YouTube - Bill Hicks on Marketing
  • Personally, I believe that behind all the other reasons, there IS a single reason for success or failure.

    It comes down to our own self-image, our belief in ourselves. If we truly believe that we have what it takes to succeed, we'll push through all the other factors until we reach that success.

    Self-belief trumps a lack of education, or opportunity, or skill-sets. With a strong sense of self, we will correct those inadequacies if we truly desire success.
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    • I can believe with all my heart and soul that I can
      achieve a goal (or believe that I've already achieved
      it) - but that does NOT make it inevitable.

      There are other factors that come into success - and
      failure, such as talent, ability, sufficient knowledge,
      resources, etc.

      I'm all for building your inner belief (a la Psycho-Cybernetics,
      visualization, etc.) but belief alone is not the ONE factor
      because there isn't ONE factor that applies to everyone.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
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    • I'm not going to argue with your logic because I feel very much the same - however in the context of this thread and people starting threads with "X is the reason you're failing/succeeding" I'm still happy that it's a massive generalisation that will always have exceptions.

      The point here is not whether there is one main reason for any particular person, but that no 'one' reason will ever be the only thing stopping everyone.

      I think it's great to pick obstacles and share ways that we or others have overcome them and removed them so that others can benefit from lessons and experiences - but that's not what we're talking about here.

      Sharing personal experiences of what works and doesn't I think is an invaluable benefit of communities like this forum.
  • I think a lot of internet marketers fail is because they think these are get rich quick sites, when they, in fact, are not. IM takes time and it also takes work. Tons of people need to realize that.
  • There's some great ideas and discussion here. If you consider success and failure to be relative to the individual, and their goals, desires, what have you, then clearly there is no 'universal truth' to why someone would fail as there is no universal definition of failure. Even if you allow others to define the criteria for your own success, those definitions will still be different for different people. Everyone learns differently, is motivated by different things, responds differently to situations... the list is infinite. We're all different, in some way.

    I have to say, though, that in a marketing forum I do not expect to see too many statements like "I discovered one single, amazing truth that propelled me to wealth beyond my wildest dreams, but it probably doesn't apply to everyone here". Although, in reflection, maybe I'm wrong in that - I would be much more likely to read that post. Now I have some thinking to do...
  • In my opinion people fail online because they don't take action. They think they are, but they never do and then quit after a few months because they haven't made a cent.
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    There have been people with strong self belief who have failed, and, people with no self belief who have succeeded. i.e. Evander Holyfield still waiting to become undisputed world champ again(hows that working out),George Foreman winning the gold medal, Rulon Gardner Gold medal(neither believed they would win they just gave it the ol college try).
  • good points but one thing that i find unfortunate is when people dont know what they are doing much and provide hard works just to find out what they are doing is a waste of time. Read before applying folks!
  • A breath of fresh air.

    I ignore most threads with such headlines. If success requires a mix of factors, and it does, then, failure would/could be due to a mix of factors. There's a part of us that yearns for the ''secret''...for the ultimate factor for...We want short-cuts to IM Nirvana.

    Life teaches us that it's not that simple. There are usually many factors at play in most situations. It's difficult to single out just one factor as the sole...

    I've never bought the idea that anybody/everybody can be successful. It smacks of the ''whatever a man can conceive, he can achieve'' mantra.

    Thanks

    Michael Newman
  • Patience is the key to successful online marketer.
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