At the risk of getting shot down in flames. . .

The last time I looked, all the scientific evidence seemed to suggest that subliminal messaging doesn't work. From the outset subliminal messaging was a hoax. It can introduce thoughts below the conscious threshold, but, they have little/no motivational power.

I believe that some of the latest research indicates that you have a better chance with visual rather than audio messages. Researchers found that visual messages reinforced/supported by images of smiling/approving faces did show some positive results.

If you do want to experiment with your own audio subliminals, you could try these, both also allow you to make silent subliminals.

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Dave

Magnates, many people express the concern that you have and while it is very important to be careful what subliminals you listen to, a few logical thoughts will help you see that this fear is purely emotional.

There are 2 simple facts to consider:

1. Any audio you listen to can theoretically have added subliminals you don't know about, so if you are really afraid of this, you need to stop listening to audios in general

2. Any subliminal message that your senses can perceive, simple and free technology can detect and decipher (which technology depends on the type of subliminal)

Providers of subliminal messages always have customers with such fear and have those that will confirm exactly what is on the audios. Providers of non-subliminal audios will normally only have such tests done by customers if they hear something on it, so really it is more likely for those to have subliminals...

Makes sense?

I have had great results with both subliminal software and audio programs. I find that I feel and think differently and this usually leads to a change in outlook or the steps I take to achieve certain results. You have to trust your source. Sometimes when you feel uncomfortable listening it's just the mind being resistant to change. Personally, I've never felt the need to worry and I continue to use these tools.

Much agreed Kurlie. And keep in mind subliminal messaging is but the delivery method and the quality of the actual messages is just as important. Since I just posted some details on that in a different thread, I will paste that section in here, I assume that is fine/ does not go against any forum rules? Seems to be no reason do rewrite it...

Here is the quick writeup on possible reasons for not getting proper results with subliminal software, most applies in the same way for subliminal audios. Btw, there is a common misinterpretation that visual subliminals are more powerful than audios - while that appears to be correct, what makes audios much more powerful is that it is much easier to expose yourself to them for many hours of the day in the background and especially during sleep. Best are silent ones, because they will never start annoying you... Repetition is what gets the enormous results when sustained over several months.

Possible reasons for not getting good results:

1. A possibility is of course that the software was not created properly and displays messages that are below the conscious threshold AND the subconscious threshold and go by unnoticed

2. More likely, you are not using a comprehensive set of possibly also by themselves ineffective affirmations as subliminals. Quality makes a HUGE difference. Apart from having to be a positive formulation in first person making a present tense declaration in now-time jurisdiction, other important considerations will effect your results greatly.

All evolution is fractal, creating ever greater complexity from an infinite repetition of a small set of simple formulas and combining large numbers of previously separate parts into new functional wholes of much greater power than the sum of its parts.

Your mind works in the same way. Very few deep rooted belief have fractalized into a great quantity of interrelated beliefs that are combined into your view of yourself, the world around you and your relationship to it. Think of this worldview as a tree. If you use few selected subliminal messages for some specific results you want ('I am rich') you are cutting of some dying leaves or little branches and duck-taping fresh healthy ones in their place. But they cannot survive by themselves and the tree will keep growing new dysfunctional branches as if you had never changed anything.

If you don't change your core belief system comprehensively, you will never achieve significant lasting results - but if you do change your central belief system, all branches, leaves and fruit will from thereon out be a reflection of this new and functional worldview and you need waste no effort on the millions of branches and leaves from the old and obsolete tree, they will fade into memory quickly and naturally...

PS: Dave, while you are correct that there is nowhere near consensus in the scientific community, looking deeper into it will also show you some of the reasons. The above mentioned are among them. Keep in mind the subconscious is, as Napoleon Hill says " as evolution has a definite direction and the subconscious is one of it's agents.


There is also a huge difference between 'subliminal persuasion' - an attempt to use subliminals to control someone else's behavior - and 'subliminal perception' - and consciously self-administered use of subliminals to support conscious efforts to change one's belief systems, only the latter of which is ethical and effective.



It is also crucially important to look at the exact protocol used in scientific studies, including the exact messages used keeping above in mind, but even moreso that subliminal messages are seeds planted in the subconscious and only when consistently used for several month water these seeds enough for the growing plants of the new belief systems to make their way through the roots of the old and obsolete beliefs and break through the surface of the conscious mind. As far as I know no scientific studies have even been attempted that expose participants to anywhere near the quality, quantity OR duration needed for such results. So their typical conclusion of only seeing 'fleeting results' is a common sense given and sheds no new light on anything. The simple reason that a meaningful study has never been done is that no entity that would publicly publish their studies or results is able to fund the enormous costs for a scientific study that would require a large number of participants to be in a controlled environment for several hours every day for several months...


I know for a fact they are an enormously powerful delivery system for the right set of affirmations, as I have had shocking results like thousands of others and know it was not a placebo effect, because I had known about them for years and always been very skeptical, based on my past belief systems and lack of knowledge. Ok, ignorance I had no great expectations but the effect were like nothing I had experienced before, in spite of a decade of dedicated personal development and spiritual practices...

@magnates - if it's not broken don't fix it I keep hearing a lot about subliminal software on Warrior Forum. It sounds really interesting and I might give it a shot one day, but there's one thing I know that works for me 100%, hypnotism . If you've managed to change your life without it and are curious to give it a shot, go for it! If not, then that's no problem either. Just keep doing what you're doing , and I'm sure you'll be fine

Best,
Ben

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