11th Oct 2012, 09:15 AM | #1 |
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Are the need for Mobile Apps dying? Well I say no, because no matter how much you might like to have an app on your phone that gets you information directly from the servers on the net, They still depend on information that is available online, as in if there was a way you would be able to download an app with all of the data on your phone then that would be great, but you see everytime you want to check for Weather news or sports news from your favourite app, you will end up accessing information that is stored in the Apps server online. And what of those phones that cant run apps, I mean the simple phones that are not running on either, iOs Android or windows 8, are there any catchy apps for such phones? That is the main reason I will still continue my Mobile Website development services because I think the two need to compliment each other. Your thoughts? |
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Because of so many devices, and the market is getting segmented more and more, if your application is not working 100% local, I think A web application take less resources to develop and maintain. A web application will work on all devices. It's almost impossible to code a native application that will work on all mobile devices. |
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11th Oct 2012, 06:05 PM | #4 |
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I find that is it much quicker to deploy a mobile web site than an app - and pretty much with the same functionality. ROI is key here.
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12th Oct 2012, 04:35 AM | #5 |
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I agree with you john Mobile websites are quick to build, they are cheap and even does not consumes space on your device but still mobile apps have their own importance. Both mobile applications and websites are profitable to businesses in their own way and hence development companies are indulging in providing services of building both mobile apps and websites. |
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12th Oct 2012, 07:46 AM | #6 |
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In my humble opinion, i think building mobile websites are much more easier than mobile apps. Although both of them are profitable in their own respective ways, mobile websites are cheaper to build and deploy.
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12th Oct 2012, 04:41 PM | #7 |
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In practice, I've found mobile websites are much easier to sell to a small business than an app and still leaves you room to upsell to an app later.
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12th Oct 2012, 10:46 PM | #8 |
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Mobile apps, as expensive as they are happen to be quite "trendy". It's as if it's the next "cool" thing to do. We have a client who absolutely insisted on a mobile app, rather than a mobile website, and was not complaining about the $50,000 price tag. We got him to see the light, and just get a responsive website, since it serves essentially the same purpose. So mobile app or website? App to be cool Web to be economical. $0.02 |
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13th Oct 2012, 10:30 AM | #9 |
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Mobile apps are the future. It might be expensive but can give you good return in the long run.
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Could you expand a bit on "good return in the long run?" ... It would be interesting to compare the differences between long term benefits of an app vs a responsive site / mobile enabled site.
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13th Oct 2012, 11:33 AM | #11 |
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There were 2 other threads here that discuss this: http://www.warriorforum.com/mobile-m...ile-sites.html http://www.warriorforum.com/mobile-m...e-website.html On one of them, this was my comment: My opinion is as an appointment setter for those of you selling mobile apps AND mobile websites. I've now been calling on this market for about 2-3 years and it's way different. Mobile Apps: - Help retain existing customers and keep them loyal, interested and up to date on coupons, events, etc. - Are not effective in branding yourself or creating new business, people search for sites, not apps (unless they know what they are looking for). - Are only effective to a smaller portion of customers (ages 16-45), this varies, but is something that should be considered based on your demographic. Older customers, even with a phone, do not do many "apps" (they search for a website). - Are best as an add on, never as a first option for a client that has no site/no mobile site. - Are not essential for every business owner - Are not as easily navigated by the client (to update themselves) Mobile Websites: - Help garner new customers and keep existing ones - Are essential to the technology we all use - Are easily sold to customers that have a website only (it's an easy upgrade if they saw the importance of a normal website) - Are easily navigated and updated by the client (some people don't want to pay you to maintain it) As you can see there is a clear winner here, and yes there are exceptions. However, this isn't from someone selling both or either, I am generally unbiased. Except for this, I prefer dealing with those of you selling mobile websites, because it's MUCH easier for me to get you in front of a business owner for an appointment! More appointments means more business! |
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15th Oct 2012, 10:44 PM | #12 |
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Mobile Apps are cool for the reason they can have WAY more into them. All your content, info, videos, social channels, pictures, all right in one place.
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19th Oct 2012, 11:12 PM | #13 |
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If you are doing something unique, a mobile app is great. But if you are simply providing content that could just as easily be coded with HTML 5, the only advantage a mobile app has over a web app is "push notifications". Personally, I don't think "push" is so hot. I turn it off for most apps because I don't want my phone interrupting me all of the time. On the other hand, SMS can serve the same function as "push" and it's a whole heck of a lot easier to get eyeballs on your content. If you can do it with web, that's the way to go. |
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20th Oct 2012, 12:57 AM | #14 |
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hmm nice i will try mobile marketing now. if its allowed here in our country.
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20th Oct 2012, 03:40 PM | #15 |
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Mobile websites are not just much easier to build, but also have much more benefits for your business with mobile optimized websites than with a mobile apps. For most businesses, mobile websites should be first, mobile apps should be 2nd. |
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21st Oct 2012, 12:44 AM | #16 |
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Mobile sites are much more easier to build, manage and sell and has more benefits for your business but mobile apps takes time and selling or promoting it is difficult.
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mobile is getting bigger and bigger everyday and both mobile sites and apps aren't too hard to make. my analytics has shown a large upward trend in an increase of mobile traffic since even just the beginning of this year.
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21st Oct 2012, 09:31 PM | #18 |
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IMHO, I think we will need to deploy both (mobile site and mobile app) to be able to reach more audience. I like the idea of mobile site because it is easier to create and to update. However it is lacking the capability for function such as push-notification (which can be very effective especially in are marketing locally). |
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I have found mobile apps are more difficult to sell than mobile websites.
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At the end of the day I care more about the traffic. An icon on a users mobile phone is much more likely to generate that. The technical aspects and costs aside; the process of downloading and installing an app is like placing your brand in someone's pocket. Sure as hell beats becoming "just another" bookmark lost in a long list of other bookmarks. Obviously you still need to look at the demographics to ensure that having one is actually viable or not.
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Yes of course, it is much quicker to deploy a mobile web site than an app. so gotta go with mobile website.
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Mobile Websites designed with HTML5 can give you the best of both worlds that gives you the advantages of both a native and web based app. Basically a Hybrid approach with the features benefits of a Native App but also has links to the web and API's to back-end databases if needed. Most of the time this is not required for simple mobile website for most small businesses, if you are developing a Enterprise App for a specific propose it may be different. Only if their is a specific requirement that calls for a custom developed Application I would not go through the effort of taking the extra time and resources to build a App for a specific mobile OS.
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I think mobile apps is the way to go. Especially if you are seeing the business already spending tons of money on print advertising. Mobile apps are much cheaper. It will bring loyalty for their customers. It is cool for the business to have their icon on the smartphones. I have been focussing on mobile apps now ever since some wsos start appearing on the apps builder. |
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Local businesses prefer the ease and mobile web apps and the fact that they are cross platform. You can implement them quickly and there are no app stores to fool with or worry with acceptance etc. Using texting over push notifications seems to work much better possibly because people are conditioned to receiving text messages. Businesses really like being able to text message their best customers and it is easy to share a mobile app via text message, QR code, shortcode via text or simply using mobile detection redirect script. If a pizza place has too much sausage on hand and maybe Tuesday is their slowest night. They can simply text their best customers on Tuesday night that they have a special on sausage pizzas from now til close and if you buy 3 you get one free or another promotion. If a local pizza place has native apps for each platform they have the delays while waiting on approvals, updates to the software from time to time and other headaches where a mobile app can be created, customized, shared, promoted and actually used in the same day. |
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Personally I think that for the moment mobile websites are the way to go. All websites will need to be mobilized at one point in time. Not everyone is comfortable downloading apps on their phone but everyone is comfortable browsing some web pages. |
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future is for mobile sites
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my views after 3 years of mobile vs apps sales. Mobile sites are fine - they should be a no brainer. If you do not have a flipper on the web that shoots mobile devices to mobile site and desktops to normal sites your in trouble. Apps - Apps are really hard to deal with. They can cost and who in the heck is going to an app store to download your business app? No one. Apps are made to appeal to many on many mobile devices. |
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I think mobile apps are more specific and have exact information and function in a given direction. For the same need, if a user accesses a mobile site, it is more time consuming as to find the necessary section from where information needs to be extracted. It is easier to use mobile apps as most platforms today, serve similar apps serving the same need.
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27th Oct 2012, 03:00 PM | #29 |
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This is what I see - A major shift from Desktop to Mobile. Look at your Adsense revenue from 2008 to now. It show a drop off on Video and a transition to Mobile where video is less but iPads are converting now...on video and more... I think that you really need to blend it all together - 40% Desktop - 30% Mobile - 20% ipad - 10% all others. In the future, you will see a reversal 30% Desk - 40% mobile - 25% iPad - 5% other. Eventually we will be at 40% PADS -40% Mobile 15% desk - 5% other. This is what you need to be rigging for. The transition point for us is GAMING> That is important transition. |
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Honestly the vast majority of apps you see in the app stores could have been built with HTML5, CSS3, and good ole javascript. In only extreme cases do you have to go native for an mobile app (i.e angry birds, lost winds, CSRracing, etc.) essentially games. But most businesses can get by with just a mobile site. I'm currently building a birthday experience app that will be built on nothing more than web standards, the only thing I would need to use is PhoneGap to wrap it and get access to native app ability. (i.e camera, address book.)
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Mobile app development is getting cheaper. So these days you can have both, an app and a mobile site
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As I see it - the key here is monetizing - I believe both models can monetize well but I'll give the advantage to mobile-web.
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Mobile apps are flourishing...
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I cannot see much difference in the benefits between mobile websites and mobile apps. If your an mobile consultant both need to be employed to help local business owners.
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Well, it depends on what goals you want to achieve. If you need a mobile-friendly website copy that works on all the devices, then you should probably choose mobile website. But if you want to add some extra features and advertise your brand worldwide through the application stores, you may develop a native app. Some companies develop both. Generally speaking, a mobile website should be considered your first step in developing a mobile web presence, and the app is useful for a specific purpose that cannot be effectively accomplished via web browsers. Here is how they are compared Native App vs. Mobile Web App: A Quick Comparison |
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Are you kidding? Mobile devices are becoming more and more popular everyday. People are looking to do more and more with them.
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I said definetly Mobile app. More perspective
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| Mobile apps have some good advantages like: * A mobile app will always remain your first choice for gaming and entertainment purpose * A mobile app will help you do complex calculation very effectively. * Once you have downloaded an app and installed in your mobile device; there is no requirement of internet connection to access over the app. However for a mobile website, you need to have an internet connection. |
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Before you can evaluate the benefits of a mobile website vs. an app it’s important to understand the key differences between the two. Both apps and mobile websites are accessed on a handheld devices such as smartphones (e.g. iPhone, Android and Blackberry) and tablets. A mobile website is similar to any other website in that it consists of browser-based HTML pages that are linked together and accessed over the Internet (for mobile typically WiFi or 3G or 4G networks). The obvious characteristic that distinguishes a mobile website from a standard website is the fact that it is designed for the smaller handheld display and touch-screen interface. Like any website, mobile websites can display text content, data, images and video. They can also access mobile-specific features such as click-to-call (to dial a phone number) or location-based mapping. Apps are actual applications that are downloaded and installed on your mobile device, rather than being rendered within a browser. Users visit device-specific portals such as Apple’s App Store, Android Market, or Blackberry App World in order to find and download apps for a given operating system. The app may pull content and data from the Internet, in similar fashion to a website, or it may download the content so that it can be accessed without an Internet connection. |
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I really think it all depends on what your goal is. I work with a lot of local businesses and a simple mobile website is more than enough for a business like let's say...a cleaning company. A map of the location, click to call, an some company info. But for a realtors however, it would be very beneficial for them to have maybe a mobile app. You can setup an app to update their listings or have an IDX search which, in my opinion, would be best served as an app than a mobile site. Doing a hybrid would be another option. As a business that offers mobile marketing services, I'd rather do mobile websites just because it's a lot easier and quicker for me to setup. |
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it really depends on the type of site mobile apps dont work well for some niches mobile websites are better cause there is no download
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mobile apps might be expensive but can give u good return in the long run
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i've found mobile apps are more difficult to sell than mobile website
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Personally I feel that mobile websites are much better suited to small/medium business owners as people search search engines alot more than they search app stores. The costs are very different aswell because you can create a lovely mobile website for less than $1000 but mobile apps are generally alot more expensive. Saying that they are both in their infancy just now but I have had alot more success with mobile websites when creating them for businesses
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