What next for an excuse?

Kay, In todays society people are allowed to shrug off almost any bad behavior by saying its an addiction instead of the truth,which is a lack of self responsibility.

Kay - I agree there is no excuse for this at all and it is just sickening the way it is being treated as a 'whoops'.

Addiction is NO excuse. I would of course prosecute them to the fullest and the thing that is really really getting to me is 'keep in mind she is pregnant' - I would take the baby from her the minute it is born.

However, the story I read took place in South Korea - not Hong Kong.

Oi. Horrible story.

thats disgraceful, some people are absolutely unbelieveable.

KAY,

I HATE this "misplaced compassion". If a man comes home, and finds a guy having sex with his wife, and kills him, he could get a DEATH SENTENCE!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT IT! That guy:

1. Risked the others life and wellbeing.
2. Destroyed his family, in whole or part.
3. Caused his wife to be unfaithful.
4. May have endangered others indirectly.
5. Trespassed on his place.
6. Used his property.

Yet HE gets the death sentence? WHY!?!?!?

NOW, if a guy goes into 50 places and kills/maimes people for NO reason, he can get off for being too young, too dumb, or just crazy! WHY!!?!?!?!?

I mean in case #1, he was wronged and really DID have legitimate concerns. It was a one time deal. Frankly, the trespasser should be treated as the criminal and potential murderer he was! WHO KNOWS if the person has aids or herpes? It has been shown that it could take over SIX MONTHS to have ANY idea if he was clean.

In case #2, they WEREN'T wronged, had NO legitimate concerns. It will likely happen AGAIN! They should be treated as the murderers they are!

In such a world, it is EASY to imagine some idiots having a kid and not caring for it at all.

Steve

Addiction? That's a lot of crap.

It could be excusable, when someone ignores something or forgets something for a while because of addiction.

But deliberately leaving a child for a whole night, knowing very well just where and why they were leaving just doesn't fit into the "addiction" scenario to me.

I think they just didn't have a care in the world about their child or their responsibilities.

I have an addiction to this forum! You know, I would consider my FAMILY FIRST! Apparently, they were raising a VIRTUAL kid!

BTW I ALREADY figured what I would do if I had a kid. I don't even think I would be on this forum if I had a kid. I would spend all my time with work, my wife, and my child(ren).

And I am NOT here 100% of the time.

Addiction is NO excuse AND, if it were, they should have simply made him/her a ward of the state and paid child support. If they were on welfare, they should have given up the portion that would generally be used to provide FULL support for the child. If that exceeded the amount they got, they should sell ALL assets to pay any difference. They would, of course, THEN have to go to work and have wages garnished.

I hope THIS pregnancy is HARSH on her, and practically BANKRUPTS him, and they end up STERILE! HOPEFULLY, the child will be remanded to the state.

Andie,

By property, I meant bed, house, etc... My point is that use of his wife, EVEN if she "consented", is WORSE than using his car, money, credit, etc.... TECHNICALLY, she COULDN'T really provide consent, since she IS married. And the property IS partly his.

But WHY should credit fraud or theft be considered more illegal than technical rape and DEFINITELY trespass and suborning infidelity?

STILL, WHATEVER you think, I find it INCREDIBLE that someone would JAIL a person for a SPECIFIC "crime of passion", and NOT someone for MULTIPLE capricious MURDERS!

Steve

Hey Dad, I mean Steve..........

So sad they would let their real life baby starve to death which is a slow, painful death rather than let their virtual baby go "hungry". Sad virtual "lives" are put over real lives.

I think you should run for office Steve, I'd vote for you too.

I heard this story a while back and thought it was S. Korea instead of HK though.

Animals feel guilt - humans have become too good to be part of the animal kingdom anymore I guess. We think we are of angels, but are showing more of being of demons.

I concur that the couple should have just been shot. We have 7 bil people on earth we don't need people this severely warped sucking up resources.

At the very least these people should have been sterilized. Not everyone should be allowed to have children, sorry if that sounds fascist, but that's the way it is. These people need to be sterilized - if too many are against abortion at least make sure that the present baby never touches that woman's hands. Let her drop it and take it immediately, then sterilize the animal.

I think it's just a matter that there are now so many of us that people are losing their sense of what being human is and are reverting back to ferral beings. It is said that the over crowding, poisons, etc, are literally turning humans into two separate species and people like these to show us very clearly what the lower species is going to be like. Dangerous, resource sucking, lacking all human ability to act with integrity or even to understand the dynamics of personal integrity.

More often than not, even lower animals have a ferocious instinct to protect their young

and they will come together above all else to protect individual survival as a group against threats outside their 'species'

--some humans are missing those instincts

sorry, i'd rather be a cat

For all those that say you can't be addicted to video games, you should think again.

Many countries including the u.s., canada and china (and i think the netherlands) have treatment facilities for gaming addiction. China has a federal law that cuts gaming to 3 hours a day. The FCC stated that gaming is one of the top 5 reasons for college drop outs. I've seen craigslist ads for women in THIS country willing to trade sex for in-game money so that they can buy special objects in the game

It is not unusual, especially in korea to hear about people that die from prolonged gaming all the time. Its no different than a gambling addiction.

I've been into gaming since the early 90's, got so deep into it that I owned a LAN center. I see people all the time that say 'i dont know how you can spend all that time on the pc'. Those are people that have just not found their game yet. You can say 'not me' all you like, I can't count how many people i know that said 'not me' and then they found the game they were into and you dont see them for 6 mos to a year, and when you do they are so white from the lack of sun they are practically clear, mt. dew cans stacked up around them, piles of dog doo by the door because they dont walk the dog...if its still alive

I dont play that much any more, but there was a time that I was setting my alarm to get up a little extra early because of in-game events. I used to be in a 'clan', which is pretty much a team. We had 2 sometimes 3 practices a week, had specific 'plays' we ran, and were using things like voice communications before it came on every x-box and its only lately that I didnt have one pc in the house that did absolutely nothing but be a dedicated gaming server.

It's the constant connection that is getting us, I believe. Did you know some cell phone energy waves are addictive? Also - people are now driving off for wilderness drives in winter in their sunday clothes thinking nothing of it because they have a cell phone connection -- then when they get stranded in areas that you can get no connection to society, they are completely without any emergency supplies or even adequate clothing for the situation. They die because they couldn't think past being connected. They kill people in their cars because they can't fathom being disconnected for a few minutes.

People - no animal, social or otherwise - was built to be connected 24/7 - you need time to unwind from continual sensory input. The connection is replacing all survival instinct somehow. What do you think would happen if every cell phone tower were shut down all at once? It would cause a mass frenzy........perhaps a week later people would start to wake up to how bad cells really are, but the first reaction would be so volatile it would probably cause deaths.



Steve - we were at about 4 bil in the 80's. Last May we hit 6.67 bil and we are adding between 150,000 to half a mil to that per DAY. The population rate of increase is going exponential at a time we have crossed carrying capacity by almost (and possibly there now) 75 billion people. In another bil you will see how mom nature takes care of fleas. It's already starting, but politicians are still busy trying to rake in some extra bucks while the scientists work quietly in the background to try to stall and reverse the chain reaction. It's getting cold.....this ain't gonna be pretty - but it will be a lesson. A costly one.

And - the difference between humans and animals are 1. oppossable (sp?) thumbs and 2. for the most part anyway - the construction of our vocal chords. Dogs could talk if they had vocal chords constructed like ours - parrots can to an extent but I don't think they can imitate all of our sounds. That's all good - we can't imitate completely all of theirs either. Dogs would actually make a lot of sense, too, as they can learn around 500 words and understand them in phrases. Simians, dolphins, dogs, birds, etc - have all been found to have abstract thinking abilities.

Communication - is instinctual to all species and that includes humans. If you have two humans raised together without contact from others, they will develop their own language -- it's hardwired right in, just as the growl of an angry dog is hardwired in their brains. When I was in grade school they taught us that humans don't have instincts. We were too Godly to have instincts. They used their strongest instinct, communication, to teach us that crap. LOL.

That is a sick story. Makes me angry that people like that can have kids at all, and I've been trying for 7 years with no luck.

Lol I remember hearing about this same story a long time ago if it is not just a similar story.

we could have a real addiction problem on our hands in China

LOL - seems I left out the decimal, Steve - that's .75 bil, hahaha - 3/4, that is.

Planet won't support 9 bil either but that's what they keep talking about publicly. Privately I'm sure they know scientists are coming to a consensus we're already there and a tad past.

What other animal has opposible thumbs? I've never heard of one?