2 simple questions that can rate a businesses online marketing

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This is stupid simple yet in my experience 95% of real offline businesses that make a huge sum of their sales or could make a huge sum from the Internet do NOT pass this simple test of two questions.

This leads me to state time and again we are STILL in the days of the wild wild west online and that it is almost impossible for someone that takes the time to make a company pass this test fail at making them a ton more profits.

I have been marketing every type of offline business (local, national, international) for almost 17 years. Small budget to 6 figure. The tools get more complicated. Some are very advanced in tools, places they advertise, big budgets, keep redeveloping their sites etc..

Everybody gets lost in the complexity and the technology and loses site of the big picture. It’s like wanting to trim the waste line, inventing/investigating exercise equipment and science for months when all you had to do was take a 30 minute walk every day after supper to achieve your desired result or eat an apple instead of a bucket of chicken (sorry Claude I know you love chicken).

So what simple 2 questions does pretty much EVERY client I have ever talked to fail at being able to answer or what are they not doing?

Here they are:

1. #1 Exactly what is the dollar value of a visitor to your site?
2. #2 Are your ads and the landing pages on your site ALWAYS in a state of and A/B split test with proper tracking in place so you can never stop improving conversions.

Now #1 causes dead silence then the guessing starts.

I will admit that this can be complicated as hell to figure out for some businesses BUT by god it would be time MUCH better spent than all the other stuff they are desperately doing. It’s like not even knowing why you’re in business.

“ Hey let’s spend $100 to get a customer... How much does a customer make us... Hmm I dunno...” See the problem.

Equally interesting and a bit of a sub topic is that even companies that spent the time and thought they knew were often very very wrong. You can go deep with this stuff. Life time value, referral value, social proof value, brand value, re-activation value, critical mass/scale value...

#2 This one makes me do a face palm. I repeatedly see businesses whose very survival is dependent on online conversions and they are NOT split testing. They spend their days hunting keywords, playing with budgets, trying to refine audiences, always looking for BETTER traffic and MORE traffic.

It does not occur to them that just as or more important than better traffic, they need a better offer and better conversions! AND that that better offer will NEVER stop evolving. If you stop evolving some competitor will come along and turn your “good enough” offer into one that starts to lose you money.

Of course the bright side is thanks to #1 you can go on living in a happy state even when you are losing money because you don’t know your numbers anyway.

This is some very simple food for thought. Working on these two things alone makes me seem like a genius to my clients over and over again. Anybody that really knows me knows I am not that clever, just a Canadian living in an igloo :-)

Many of you here probably have a few simple questions like this that you look at quickly to assess the state of a companies marketing. They are endless but if you have some gems I would love to hear them.

I like these because they are simple and universal no matter the channel. Know your numbers and test. Simple but not happening much these days in real offline businesses. Sometimes happens for a while then laziness sets in. Shocking is how complex the OTHER things they are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author trip3980
    I just wanted to state that a mature companies responsibility is to collect as much information about their consumers before they approach a marketer. Having to come in to a company that does not do the basic due diligence of market research and number crunching is a bit of a mess to deal with. Being a multimedia specialist I understand this problem all to well and I find my self doing damage control because their is more problems then just spiting out some kind of message. The reality is the data is what dictates what the message should be regardless of technology and budget. Now granted if I only have X budget to spend for marketing then that's what I have to deal with. But if a company wants to "Brand" them selves then no because branding can be in the millions of dollars depending on the outlet. Marketing should be reflective of the companies current financial state. While all companies have to market and sell their product and service regardless of financial state, how you market and sell is based on your consumers and potential consumers. Thats the biggest problem with businesses today is that they alienate their consumers. Hence why most businesses in the united states fail according to forbs.
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    • Profile picture of the author sconer
      The visitors to my website that are going to contract work with me are going to pay for a service ranging from $99 to $12,000. I can find the average, but I don't think that will really matter. There are two services that I do most often, one is $99 and the other is around $2,400.

      AFAIK, there in no real way to value a visitor to my site. It would just be a total guess based on an average that is based on a huge swing in sale costs.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
        Originally Posted by sconer View Post

        The visitors to my website that are going to contract work with me are going to pay for a service ranging from $99 to $12,000. I can find the average, but I don't think that will really matter. There are two services that I do most often, one is $99 and the other is around $2,400.

        AFAIK, there in no real way to value a visitor to my site. It would just be a total guess based on an average that is based on a huge swing in sale costs.
        A few comments.

        First off you can figure out the average value with looking at past data. Simply total revenue generated divided by total visits
        Of course this does not take into account lifetime value and a bunch of other things I mentioned and does not help you determine the cost for each thing you are selling as you pointed out.

        The other comment is segmentation. I can't imagine the exact same ads, pages, funnels are selling a $99 service and a $2,400 service unless you lead with the first and up-sell to the second so again with proper segmentation you could get your numbers. If its not segmented it should be, you will get better conversions...

        It is always possible, but it is not always easy. Trust me I handled national ecomm sites with a varied mix of price points and yes it was a pain in the ass but we were able to nail down exact costs and values of visits by channel, product, funnel and derivatives thereof
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