The REAL Way To Make Money With Offline Marketing?

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Helping a business owner get online is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak, in making money with a client. Don't get me wrong, there is a boatload of cash to be earned helping owners get their businesses online.

Wouldn't it be great to be able to leverage your online marketing skills to make even more money with a client?

Let's go over the process.

First, in order to get clients, you must be approachable and FUN. People want to work with FUN people, personable people, interesting people. What I am saying here is that you must get into the community and talk to folks! I am NOT talking about cold calling! That positions you as a sales person... nothing wrong with that, but if people see you as selling, defenses go up.

You want people to feel comfortable enough with you so they will ask.... "What is it that you do?"

Let me give you an example of what you can do to stir the pot.... BTW, if you have other things that work for you... use them. I was swimming at a pool and started talking with a group of older ladies in an exercise group... One of their husbands asked me to work for him.... because of a simple conversation.

Here's a FUN way to get people talking with you...

Go to a restaurant you like (Not McDonalds) that has a wait staff.... Take PLENTY of one dollar bills....
Whenever your server brings something to the table remark that you have heard that some people TIP during a meal and you wanted to try it.... EVER time your server comes back, GIVE THEM A DOLLAR.... You will have them coming regularly and cause a bit of commotion! To really have fun, hand out a few dollar bills to tables near you and tell them what you are doing and suggest the same thing!

Every time I do this I am inundated with cards of people wanting to talk with me! Will this work for you? I don't know. But the point is to try something different... but FUN.

OK. OK. I may have gotten off track a bit.

Let's say you have a client and have shown them how to use email marketing, or SEO, or something. The point is you are making money for your client. Once you have done this, do you think it is hard for you to talk to the client about other parts of their business? It isn't is it?

So now, you sit down with your client and ask them some very pointed questions about their business. You spend quality time with them finding out how the business ticks. You find out what works, and what doesn't. This is just the set-up.

Before you finish the interview, you show the client a few things. You show the client some of their own marketing pieces, with changes you have made to make them better (You just show... they don't get to keep)... You show your client what their competitors are doing... You let your client know that you know quite a bit about their competitors and their own business (You have done a bit of homework).

You show the client a nice little spreadsheet how with a few changes, you can help them increase profits in a big way.... You also show your client how they can sell their business in a couple or three years with some simple changes.... Thus giving them the freedom they want....

At this point it is just a matter of CLOSING them, signing a contract for a NICE retainer and/or portion of the profits you bring them.

Why does this work?

Because you've shown the client that you know about THEM and their competiton. The client DOES NOT WANT YOU GOING TO THE COMPETITION!!!

That in a nutshell is what I do in the offline world.

Want to join me?

Warmly,

Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Depends...

    I like the idea of setting up a machine that sells websites to business owners and hosting... and making a great income running a relatively simple operation... than the idea of selling 50 different services and having a business that hard to manage because there are so many variables going on at any given time, but dont take my word for it, because usually others disagree with all the money being left on the table...

    I would prefer to just refer other services out.
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    • Profile picture of the author anthon
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Depends...

      I like the idea of setting up a machine that sells websites to business owners and hosting... and making a great income running a relatively simple operation... than the idea of selling 50 different services and having a business that hard to manage because there are so many variables going on at any given time, but dont take my word for it, because usually others disagree with all the money being left on the table...

      I would prefer to just refer other services out.
      Just sticking to one business or business model is a good idea.
      That way we can just work on the field best for us and the field that e are most expert on.
      this will require less efforts to manage all the business and business variables and will also give much more benefits due to our experience and expertness in the field.
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      • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
        I can see sticking to one thing.

        However, since I have done so many things in business, I can see a bigger picture.

        One thing that Online Marketing for Offline Business DOES have going for it is that you can make quick strides with a business which then ALLOWS you to help them in a GREATER way.... Which in turn makes them and YOU a WHOLE lot more money.

        Warmly,

        Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    John,

    I actually only provide ONE service... Business Development Consultant.

    I do outsource a lot of stuff, but when you get down to it, there is nothing like sitting face to face with a client and have them write you a big fat check to keep you.

    Cheers,

    Millard
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    • Profile picture of the author london web design
      I agree. Sometimes the best thing to do is to hand out a business card. 500 for £5 at VistaPrint!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Well when you put it that way... Indeed. By the way awesome detailed contribution here!
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  • Profile picture of the author ebizerati
    I agree that getting a local business a successful on line presence is only the tip of the iceberg.

    Here is an example from this week from a local business I have been working on closing a deal with.

    The business originally was looking for a person to do SEO and market their website from them.

    After speaking with them and asking questions about there sales process for about 45 minutes. I quickly realized that this business is losing tens of thousands of dollars per year in sales.

    They have been in business 18 years, but they are so wrapped up in the everyday logistics and problems of their business, that they could not see the obvious. After doing some research about their business and their sales process. I identified blatant problems that are currently costing them a minimum of $180,000 per year.

    Some of these problems are so blatant that it makes a person wonder how they could possibly miss them.

    Here are the two most blatant problems that are costing them at least $40,000 per year in sales.

    Problem one. In the mornings they are extremely busy with logistics routing their drivers. They are losing at least 2 sales each day because of this, because they don't have time to answer the phone. That is $50 per day.

    Problem two. Their shopping cart is not accepting payments from a lot of international customers shopping on their website. They do not have a back up payment method for these customers, so they are losing sales everyday.

    I have already identified over 15 problems they have in there sales process. I am very confident that I can increase this business' profit between $180,000 and $300,000 the first year. Only about half of these are related to the Internet part of their business.

    They have since forgotten about wanting me to just do SEO, they are now wanting a price for fixing all of there problems.

    Granted I have many years experience running businesses. But most of this stuff is just common sense.

    Like Millard says on his coaching website, anything you don't know how to do, you can find a course on it, or learn it here on the Warrior Forum.

    For fellow Warriors that are looking to make money offline. My advise to you is to get out there and start meeting business owners. DO NOT go in trying to sell them some service the first time you go in.

    Get to know them first, they are needing help. As soon as you get your mindset right and realize how much you can help a business. It will be easy for you to talk to them.

    To Your Success,
    Dale
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    • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
      Dale is right on the money. Often business owners are so focused on running their businesses, they cannot see problems right in front of their faces.

      It is one thing to do simple services here and there for offline businesses, but you want to develop long-term clients who pay you on a monthly basis to help them grow. When you're first starting out, you may not get a boatload of cash as a retainer, but imagine having several clients just paying you five hundred dollars a month just to look over some of their marketing processes.

      When you throw in the mix that one of the requirements of working with you is to refer a couple of other business owners to your services, it won't be long before you're making as much as you want to make no matter what is happening to the economy.

      Keep looking up,

      Millard
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    • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
      The key to making this type of consulting work for you is to add value to what you give the client. It seems like everyone and their cousin is trying to do offline marketing.... but do it without having to talk to people one-on-one.

      Listen. People buy from people... not computers. People buy from people they trust, like and respect. You've got to have something people want.... not necessarily NEED. People make their buying choices based on their emotions... then use logic to justify their purchase.

      How do you get people to trust you? You've got to give them something that will help them! PLUS, you want to give them this gift with no strings.

      For example... Let's say that you've struck up a conversation with someone and find out they own a bakery. You ask them how they got started... what is their favorite item... why they like to bake, etc. THEN ask them, "How's business?" Generally, if you have good rapport, they will tell you!

      At that point, GIVE them one of your BEST TIPS. If they get excited, you've got a chance to talk further and get a client. If they DO NOT get excited, be friendly, but MOVE ON.

      If a prospect does not get fired up with something that will actually benefit them, then it is going to be tough to sell them on using you to help.

      Cheers,

      Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    One other thing I thought about....

    I went to the local Chamber of Commerce and offered my services to help them. From that I was able to talk to a few folks and get things started quickly.

    Cheers,

    Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author ebizerati
    Millard has hit the nail square on the head with this quote.

    "It seems like everyone and their cousin is trying to do offline marketing.... but do it without having to talk to people one-on-one".

    People, the consulting business is selling yourself first. If the business owner is not comfortable with you or does not trust you, then you will have a hard time closing deals.

    Credibility and trust start by building a relationship. Relationships start with personally interacting with someone. To interact you need to meet them.

    These business owners don't bite, well most of them don't anyway, and if they do it doesn't hurt much. So stop feeling up tight about meeting business owners face to face. Get out there on the streets and start talking to business owners.

    A good way to meet them in a non-selling way is to do a survey. Let them know right up front that you are a small business consultant, who works with local businesses.

    That you are doing research to help local businesses in your town to increase sales during the recession. Business owners are normally willing to participate in something that will help local businesses.

    Let them know as soon as you have explained what you are doing, that you are not there to sell them something today. It is very important to say this, so they will not close up thinking you are a sales person.

    Then do a short survey with questions about how their business is doing, what marketing are they doing, do they use social media, do they have an online presence, ect.

    Questions that will do two things. They will give you a good idea of the problems local businesses in your area are facing. They will also let you know what problems that particular business has.

    Now you have met a business owner, you have found out about problems specific to businesses in your area, and you have opened a door to possibly do consulting or other services with this business owner. All in a way that doesn't yell "SALES PERSON".

    Don't try to close a sale when you complete the survey. You have already told them that you are not trying to sell something to them today. Notice I keep saying "today".

    Later you can approach them about doing some work. There is a way to do that to in a non-threatening manner. We can talk about that later.

    Now let them know that when you have finished your research, you would like to give the participating business owners the results and any tips from it that might help them. Ask them if you can email the results and any tips to them.

    Guess what? Now you have started a relationship with a business owner, done some marketing research, found important information about a potential customer, and added them to your list.

    All in one visit, without trying to sell them anything. How can it get any easier than that?

    To Your Success,
    Dale
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    Dale,

    My hat is off to you!

    You said exactly what needed to be said and gave a great way to gain information without being salesy. Although my approach is similar, I don't do a survey, per se, that is, I don't tell the owner point blank that I am taking a survey, I do survey the owner in my own way to see if they are a prospect to me while I am talking.

    However, your idea is such a good one, I'm going to try it and see how it works with what I am doing.

    Thanks for the info!

    Warmly,

    Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    When you conclude your survey, ask the biz owner if he would like
    to hear about the results of his survey, the get his email addy.
    He is now on your list. Only email him FREE stuff. Good tips or
    articles, whatever. Just be his best friend. Stop in once a month
    and let things happen naturally.

    You send him an article about capturing his customers on an
    opt-in list. Or get listed on Google maps. Or how to perform
    some SEO trick you have up your sleeve.He will ask
    "How do you do that?"

    That's your opening. Be a friend and HELP him.

    Hugh
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  • Profile picture of the author rushindo
    Originally Posted by MWGrubb58 View Post

    Here's a FUN way to get people talking with you...

    Go to a restaurant you like (Not McDonalds) that has a wait staff.... Take PLENTY of one dollar bills....
    Whenever your server brings something to the table remark that you have heard that some people TIP during a meal and you wanted to try it.... EVER time your server comes back, GIVE THEM A DOLLAR.... You will have them coming regularly and cause a bit of commotion! To really have fun, hand out a few dollar bills to tables near you and tell them what you are doing and suggest the same thing!

    Every time I do this I am inundated with cards of people wanting to talk with me! Will this work for you? I don't know. But the point is to try something different... but FUN.
    I'm curious. Where did you get the idea from of handing out dollar bills in a restaurant? A Warrior who went by the name of Don Alm gave the same idea a long time ago.

    Are you the same person?

    I don't think you are but just asking.

    And great advice by the way. Cold calling or cold anything sucks.
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    • Profile picture of the author affhelper
      Or you could use my "hold them hostage" method which I posted on my blog here:

      Offline Cash Blueprint Method

      It works good if you don't like selling people on stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    Rushindo... I first heard about this idea from Glenn Osborn years ago and have been using it ever since. Don Alm is a friend of mine and could of heard it from Glenn or me. In any case, it works!

    BTW, Affhelper, your "Hold Them Hostage" method is GOLD. Looks like it is just the method for those who hate cold calling.

    Cheers,

    Millard

    Just another follow up...

    When I was working with Peter Sun to learn how he used Jay Abraham methods to deal with local clients, he taught me something very important.

    You can use the same "Stair-step" approach Russell Brunson talks about in his 20 Minute Payday with your offline clients.

    I'll explain more in a post about that, specifically. In short, you sell them on your web services and then upsell them to more expensive packages having to do with offline selling.

    I'll speak more about how I get clients NOW (Just this week) without having to run out face-to-face like I always have....

    Stay tuned.

    Millard
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    There's a thread in the forum about using postcards versus telemarketing where I talk a little bit about how I get clients with BIG packages.

    I think the REAL secret is having something that a business REALLY needs... more customers AND more profits. If a business is getting sales but do not know they are losing money out the back door, then it is silly to try to sell them on getting more customers.

    What you really want to sell them is an appointment, so you can determine the BEST way to help them.

    One of my recent clients told me that the reason I was hired is that I wasn't TRYING to sell them something, but actually showed them that I cared about the business. Sure, you're trying to "sell" the client. The only real way you are going to be able to do it is to find out what is actually going on in the business.

    Millard
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