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Hi Warriors,

I was charged after a one week trial with GDI and I specifically told them
NOT to charge my bill but I was charged nonetheless. When I called GDI
back, I was informed that there will be no refunds because of a no-refund
policy.

I'm pissed with GDI.

I got charged for an absolutely useless service. My upline never bothered.

I don't know about your experience but I'm sure as heck, never ever going
to support GDI.

Pissed off. Totally pissed off.

I sent an email and they had a strict no cancellations except by calling rule.
Which is freaking bull, if you ask me!
You're an internet business company and you can't do internet cancellations
when everyone else around the world can?

Pathetic, GDI. Freaking pathetic.

The video that GDI put up said that "if you want to cancel, simply do it
within the week and you won't be billed a cent"

Lies.

I requested a cancel. They sent me an e-mail. They charged me. I called back.
No refunds.

GDI sucks.

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Hi neonerai,

I would think it was a simple case of strictly following laid down rules. Some companies are more strict than others.

It emphasises why it is important to always thoroughly go through the rules at the point of joining and days/weeks before any major decision such as that, is carried out.

From my own personal experience, I have had no problems with GDI and actually the domain I still use is GDI's and have used their hosting without any problem before switching over to Host4Profit.

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Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the heads up.

What exactly is GDI?

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Hi Dele,

Have you read every single bloody line they have at GDI?
It'll even make lawyers want to seek asylum.
How do you expect me to read through all the damn things?
Sorry if I'm aggressive, I'm still ticked at GDI.

And you stated about why it is important to always thoroughly
go through the rules at the point of joining and days/weeks
before any major decision such as that.

Would joining a TRIAL be considered as a major decision?



And Matt, GDI stands for Global Domain Internationals.
It's basically a webhosting system that's doing the usual
recruitment and telling people it's a good way to get rich.

Their video is excellent which is why I signed up for the
trial. Turns out I got burned when I tried it.

Tried working the system for 5 days. Nothing. Not a single
unique visitor.

Tried contacting the upline. They're never online and they
never respond to any attempts to contact them.

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Originally Posted by neonerai View Post

Tried working the system for 5 days. Nothing. Not a single
unique visitor.
Hi neonerai,

I even thought you had worked the program for long before commenting so authoritatively on it.

If someone made this same complaint about PIPS on this forum, I am sure you will disagree, claiming 5 days is simply too short for any reasonable conclusion.

If I get you well, you had not even yet moved to the main program but was only at the trial stage.

I have been in GDI for at least 2 years and for corrections, it is not simply about webhosting as you indicated.

It includes domain registration and is also an income opportunity. My upline is making a full time living virtually solely on this opportunity.

If you did not get it right, it does not mean others are not. What certainly I have not seen them as, is fraudulent.

I am not holding brief for GDI but only stating the facts I know.

If you do not have the time to read the entire rules, you can at least read the portion relating to unsubscribing and if you fail to do that please know that you have nobody to blame for it but yourself since "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" even in a court of law.

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Seriously Dele,

No matter how much you try to defend GDI and even if it's my fault, I'm still pissed at GDI. You're right that I would claim 5 days is too short a time but the thing is, in 5 days, what they said was that "see if this is what you liked". I did not like it.

In the 5 days, I had ZERO support. I had to use my previous methods of promotion to promote it. And for 5 days, and ZERO clicks on to the site. I knew that it's a goner.

GDI does not work anymore.

It worked when people got into the .WS hype. Now that it's died down, they're getting every penny they can get.

And you know what? I'm telling this to EVERY SINGLE PIPS member here to STAY AWAY from GDI simply because it does NOT give what it promises. It is NOT helpful. It took me a freaking 15 minute long distance call to America to CANCEL my subscription - I might have paid more for my long distance call instead of my subscription.

For a company that's calling itself the revolution of the internet with the .WS and having to rely on phones to cancel the subscriptions when ALL OTHER COMPANIES can cancel by their clicking makes absolute zero sense.

If I did not get it right, it does not mean others are not? Okay, go ahead and recommend others to join GDI instead of PIPS then. I hope that for those that joined GDI under PIPS will do better than what I've done so that will completely shut me up.

But that WILL NOT happen for new members of GDI.

ZERO support. ZERO assistance. The headache of having to make a freaking long distance call to cancel my subscription. Having to hear that I cannot get a refund in any circumstance PISSES me off to the core. I double paid for CRAP.

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Some time ago I was also about to join GDI but I found some negative comments about it, so I stayed away. PIPS is all I need

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Hi There Asher.

I can empathize with your anger here and regret that you had this experience.

Dele: This is the PIPS support forum and as such we would be defensive of PIPS, due mainly to the fact that everyone's prospects may be dissuaded on irrational ranting from someone who only gave it 5 days.

This is a different issue because with PIPS programs you CAN get a full refund in 10 days from Host4Profit and 72 hours from Empowerism.

Clearly the difference is #1 we do not have any reason to defend GDI and #2 we should be able to warn when something is not as it seems. (no refund)

Having said that you notice I changed the 'headline' because we do care about you and other PIPS members who may also use GDI and who may not be of the same opinion and in fact have more experience with GDI than someone quitting after 5 days.

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I've been with GDI for 5 months and my income grows a little each month. I know one family that has been with them for a little over a year and they quit working for a living 6 months ago. It's a very solid system that only cost $10.00 a month including hosting.

I had two web addresses with them for a couple months but you only need one. I canceled one and they didn't stop the billing because I made a mistake in how I canceled. A polite phone call and my money was reimbursed to PayPal.

PayPal should be your last resort but you can file a dispute if you used them to pay GDI and you'll get your money back.

I will take a lot more than a 7 day trial tour taker to convince me they are no good.

You have to remember that many people never make a dime on the Internet and many never make a dime with most programs but others do very well. If a program is not for you it may be for someone else.

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neonerai,

Be very clear that I was not holding brief for GDI but only stating the facts as they are.

My objective was simply to address the particular complaint you made and draw your attention to the fact that they were not to blame for that.

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Hi Patricia and Stephen,

Thanks for your kind words. There's still a lot of things for me to learn about
Internet Marketing and I guess getting burned is probably one of the things
that I might have to come across sooner or later.

All it takes for me to chill are wise words put across more diplomatically which
both of you did excellently well.

Thanks again. And Stephen, if it works for you, next time if I ever consider
joining GDI (God knows how long), I'll message you and join your downline
instead of joining a generic group!

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neonerai, my gripe is this, you can only try it for seven days and during that period you do not get access to the full program. If you are like me and you are busy trying to build your PIPs program or whatever it is you are building 7 days is not long enough. No one who is busy has the time to read through an entire program in that short of a period.

Take SFI as an example. You can be a free member for as long as you want. They make you think you'll loose something by not joining right away by telling you that you'll loose your place in the power line. But that's a bit of marketing trickery. The point is, you have time to examine it and make an educated decision. Either that or look at the cost and if it's right go for it.

As far as downline, mine never contacted me either. So, I begged to move teams because another family was helping. They let me do it and now I have support. Trust me, PIPs is no different. Most of the Sponsors never contact their downline. I don't even know who some of my sponsors are. Kind of crazy for people who want to build a business to never even say hello.

One last thing. I've assumed you are new to PIPs and Internet marketing. If so it is a bad idea to start joining other programs. You will end up with a lot of problems. I would work on PIPs and getting some momentum going. Then when you have a good idea how to build this business you can and probably should start looking around a little.

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Hi There Asher.

I can empathize with your anger here and regret that you had this experience.

Dele: This is the PIPS support forum and as such we would be defensive of PIPS, due mainly to the fact that everyone's prospects may be dissuaded on irrational ranting from someone who only gave it 5 days.

This is a different issue because with PIPS programs you CAN get a full refund in 10 days from Host4Profit and 72 hours from Empowerism.

Clearly the difference is #1 we do not have any reason to defend GDI and #2 we should be able to warn when something is not as it seems. (no refund)

Having said that you notice I changed the 'headline' because we do care about you and other PIPS members who may also use GDI and who may not be of the same opinion and in fact have more experience with GDI than someone quitting after 5 days.
I agree with Patrician,because it's not healthy when you seek for refund and you do not get it.It funny they do not apply for refund by email...

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Still not satisfied, neonerai took his case to the warrior's main internet marketing forum with an headline "Global Domains International Is A Scam"

These are the replies he got.

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Hi Asher,

GDI does have a standard company policy wherebuy you do have to give them a call to cancel prior to the 7 day Free Trial has expired, otherwise you are automatically charged for the first month.

So basically you might aswell use your remaining 2 or 3 weeks as a paid member to make it work for you.

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Re: Global Domains International is a Scam
Forgetting that GDI is a poor opportunity (their comp plan sucks) they are
not a scam. They are perfectly within their rights to have whatever
cancellation policy they want. If you read their TOS, it's all there.

People throw the word "scam" around way too much in this world, and in
my opinion, that's irresponsible.

Don't get me wrong. I would never recommend GDI to anybody. ($1 per
sign up? Please) But I would never call it a scam. And there are actually
things about GDI that are okay, if not great.

So let's be a little responsible with how we throw the word "scam" around
because a GDI exec could pop into this forum and take great exception
to his company being called a scam and if he wanted to, could make a
federal case out of it.

And that's the last thing that any of us wants.
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GDI offers domain services with .ws
In my opinion, people should use www.godaddy.com
You pay $10 a month for a domain name with GDI.
You pay under $10 a year with GoDaddy.
It's common sense people.


You're comparing apples to oranges.

It's $10 per month for the hosting and the opportunity to make
$1 per referral 5 levels deep.

That's why it's $10 per month.

Also, to the original poster - all you had to do was what they clearly state you have
to do to cancel. Call them.

Look at all the time you wasted moaning and groaning about the $10 they "stole"
from you. But in reality you didn't even follow their simple company policy.

Neo, GDI makes a big buck because people like you can't follow simple instructions
and call them to cancel like they are told to. LMFAO!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And now you hate them as a result of your own ignorance!!!

I can't stop laughing. It hurts!!
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Hi,

Apologies if this seems insensitive, but all there is to be learned here is that you should make sure to read the T.O.S. of any business agreement that you enter into. If you don't do this, then it's highly likely that you will spend the rest of your career with steam coming out of your ears - particularly if you are prone to getting so worked up over $10.

As for it being a scam, based on the info you have provided, it is not a scam. You didn't read the terms.
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How many people really take the time to read the terms and conditions? I didn't for this time.
I think you learned a lesson worth more than $10. Trial memberships almost always convert to paid memberships at the end of a trial - that's the whole point of offering them. Also worth considering - uplines may focus on ongoing members in their downlines as trial member retention rates are often low.

Failure to read terms and conditions can cost a lot more than $10 - and I doubt you'll do that again for a while. It's a mistake many make - new and old marketers.

Normal to be upset when you feel taken advantage of - but good to learn how things work in reality. Will save you time and money going forward.

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Dele, I wasn't "still not satisfied". I did both posts concurrently.

And now that I've stated in an earlier post, I've chilled down. I've
stated that in the posts that you've selectively quoted as well.

Doesn't everyone deserve his/her turn with being upset? I was
upset with GDI and now that I've cooled down, I realise that I
was on the wrong end of handling such an issue. You may or may
not be ranting or raving on the internet but I'm sure that I'm
not the only one who has done so in the past and I'm most
definitely sure that I won't be the last one.

You may not choose to rant and rave on the internet but this place
is the only place I know of that I can post about something in IM
and not simply get ignored! That's what I like about this place,
I learn every time.

So Dele, firstly, I apologise to you if I've ticked you off in any of the
earlier posts. I'm gonna let this one die down into the annals of WF.

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Hi neonerai,

That is the spirit.

Glad you've learnt some things.

All is well that ends well.

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I brought it out of the "annals"

Nothing wrong with getting a bit upset, we've all done it.

Although I have no idea why the above WF thread was quoted here, as if we can't just go read it, except to prove some point, maybe some commentors should actually read the terms themselves and actually know what the startup cost and commission is. They seem to have it wrong. People are funny that way.

Any one of the affiliate programs can mess up and make a mistake with billing and paying out. None of them are mistake free and it would be a bad choice to assume the affiliate was the one who was wrong. Most of us have seen mistakes like this one posted here before and many have experienced them.

Human nature is kind of funny. All we really have to go on is what is presented to us. Unfortunately our nature has us take what is stated and turn it around so we can blame the person. It's odd how we do that when we really don't know.

The lesson to be learned, don't give up until they get it right.

neonerai, I hope you get your money back.

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Dele, I wasn't "still not satisfied". I did both posts concurrently.

And now that I've stated in an earlier post, I've chilled down. I've
stated that in the posts that you've selectively quoted as well.

Doesn't everyone deserve his/her turn with being upset? I was
upset with GDI and now that I've cooled down, I realise that I
was on the wrong end of handling such an issue. You may or may
not be ranting or raving on the internet but I'm sure that I'm
not the only one who has done so in the past and I'm most
definitely sure that I won't be the last one.

You may not choose to rant and rave on the internet but this place
is the only place I know of that I can post about something in IM
and not simply get ignored! That's what I like about this place,
I learn every time.

So Dele, firstly, I apologise to you if I've ticked you off in any of the
earlier posts. I'm gonna let this one die down into the annals of WF.

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I've been with GDI for less than 2 weeks and already have 5 people under me. And I DO always respond to my downline and email them regularly. Sorry you had a bad experience with them but I don't think it's typical.

As others have advised I would learn about marketing and then give it another try.

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I've been with GDI for less than 2 weeks and already have 5 people under me. And I DO always respond to my downline and email them regularly. Sorry you had a bad experience with them but I don't think it's typical.

As others have advised I would learn about marketing and then give it another try.
I am also with GDI for some time now and doing just great. My downline is constantly growing month after month, due to the revolutionary downline building system that I am using, along with my team.

One of the key to success in GDI is to use an efficient GDI downline builder, and to maintain a good and close relationship with your downline. It is supposed to be a team work, as we are getting paid for the work of our referrals. They are our source of income!

@Asher I am sorry for your bad experience, but GDI did nothing wrong! After the 7 days free trial you were charged with the amount that was stated when you signed up with them.

And GDI does refund your money if you properly cancell your account. You should have called them and told them that you want to cancell your account. Or just email them that you want to cancel your account, but you do not wish to call them. They would have asked you a phone number and they would have called you.

Don't blame GDI for your lack of information regarding GDI!

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Hi artagnan1978,

This thread was started up last year and unfortunately,
it's one of the threads that I wish I'd never have started.

Nevertheless, I still stand by my decision that GDI isn't
going to work for me. Enough said, please let this thread
die off (or could someone kindly lock this thread?)

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