Article Marketing Automation vs. Linkvana vs. My Article Network?

by 95 replies
116
It seems that there are a few of these automatic one-way link building networks out there.

The kind where you write a blog post, punch in your links, and then upload it to the system at which point it is published on the blogs of the various members of the network. They get content and you get backlinks. Win-win.

I've used Article Marking Automation (AMA) ($47 p/month) for this for a while and it went alright. Now I see others talking about My Article Network ($47 p/month) and Linkvana ($147 p/month!).

My worry about these sites has always been that the price would suppress participation. Less content submitted because of the cost means less value to the network's blog owners which means fewer of them will be setup for distribution and all that.

Can anyone vouch for any of these services and give some guide as to which is better? Will Linkvana give you 3x the results for 3x the cost of the other two?
#search engine optimization #article #automation #linkvana #marketing #network
  • AMA and MAN are same. And, I really have no feedback on LV.
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • You can't mention any of those without also mentioning 1waylinks. Absolutely the best!!!
    • [1] reply
    • Banned
      [DELETED]
    • What about FreeTrafficSystem.com? They're another one of these blog networks.

      I wish I was loaded. I'd just use them all.
  • I haven't used AMA/MAN yet, but it is on my list. Right now the majority of my linkbuilding efforts are coming from Linkvana and Unique Article Wizard, and if you have the money to shell out, I'd say they are both more than worth the price of admission.

    With both of them, I have noticed a direct correlation between my links getting indexed and my traffic / SERPs. For a few sites I've been using Linkvana alone, and it's moved me several pages forward for some decently competitive keywords.

    The downside to both of them, aside from the price, is how much writing you have to do. With Linkvana, each post only goes out to one blog, which means that you're writing 100 words for every single link you get. It doesn't sound like much until you account for doing 1 link per day for 20-30 keywords, so between 2 and 3 thousand words of writing before you even touch article marketing or site content.

    Don't get me wrong, it's worth the work, but I'm very glad that I'm approaching the stage where I'll have the extra cashflow to outsource my writing, because at the tender age of 24, I'm already feeling carpal tunnel syndrome creeping in...
    • [1] reply
    • Linkvana isn't a network of blog owners. The guys who run Linkvana own all of the blogs and they build more every week.

      I've also heard people outsourcing the 100 word blog posts very, very cheaply.

      I don't use Linkvana currently but it's on my "to buy" list, as I've heard a lot of good things about it.
  • I have used AMA and linkvana, let me share my experience.

    AMA - Cheap and nice service, I think myarticlenetwork is identical to this. First of all, don't expect to see result quickly, you need to continuously build a lot of articles to it, and it will syndicate to all the blogs, however, this takes time. May be 2 to 3 months down the road you will start to notice more obvious result, at the meantime, just keep sending in articles.

    Linkvana - More link juice! You can achieve 3 times better result. However, it cost you time or outsourcing money to acquire enough links to rank well.

    I stopped this service 1 month ago, just because I can't seems to acquire the link fast enough!

    I don't care what people say about building links slowly, because if your site is 1 month old, you can have as many authority links (PR 4 and above) to your site without any problem!! At least getting 200 links a day is fine!

    Another service similar to Linkvana called backlinks solution, which allow spinned articles, and I appreciate that!

    However, this service has small network of blogs, around 200+?? The link power just not enough for more competitive keywords.

    My conclusion
    Get as many high authority links you can get - Angela & Paul package is a start, and you might want to get AMA or Linkvana as well, but you should be prepared to get more articles into these network!
    • [ 1 ] Thanks
    • [2] replies
    • Hi

      That's an interesting comment about lead time and I don't understand why it would take 2-3 months to see links come back.

      I add content from AMA to one of my blogs and it's up with the link in and found by google within a day or two.

      I did a spun article that has been published 26 times over a few weeks and not one backlink has surfaced. Are they so bad they get deleted immediately LOL?

      Mike
      • [1] reply
    • Thank you well written that shows my experience with LV as well.
  • AMA and Myarticlenetwork are the same thing.

    I have experienced terrible results and asked for a refund and still no response....
    • [1] reply
    • Can't speak to Linkvana or My Article Network. But Article Marketing Automation is an excellent service for long-term back links. I agree with one of the comments that AMA should not be used for short-term results however. In order for AMA to work effectively, you must be in it for the long haul.

      You do need to consistently add articles. My system is one of posting my articles to AMA after first getting indexed on my site. If I need to target a competitive keyword that my site will not or cannot get to the 1st page of G, I will post it first to my site, then EZA, then AMA in that order. This works very effectively of getting the most syndication for your money.

      Dan
      • [1] reply
  • The trouble with automated services is that they often have network footprints that Google can track. They also cost quite a lot comparitive to results, and are definitely a "win all or lose all" link strategy. Believe me I know, my team spent three months researching linkbuilding while developing our site to be a system that works within Googles TOS, while still using a degree of automation.
    • [1] reply
    • Can you please be more specific about what exactly footprints can these systems leave and, in particular, Free Traffic System.

      I am asking that because I am one of the people behind Free Traffic System, and I wonder how on earth you can try finding at least one footprint that our system is leaving.

      I am not bullying you; in case you manage to find at least something - that would be awesome help. But I really doubt you can find any sort of footprints left by Free Traffic System.
  • Basically, I think any kind of "link building" is against Google TOS.

    However, Google don't really cares... as long as the result is useful and giving value to their searcher.

    When Google finds many low quality and "useless" sites showing up on first page, they will start to review their algorithm to provide, better, more value result.

    So, the best SEO is pure white hat - using link bait to attract links instead of manually building it!!
  • And what about Seo Nuke? Is it so powerful?
  • okay! my apologies for going a little offtrack, i would like you guys to give your opinion on AMA and MAN (myarticlenetwork).. are these both same, i have tried the trial version of MAN (myarticlenetwork) and AMA.. both look same. in what ways they are different? as both of them cost same, which one is better?
    • [1] reply
    • freetraff - Google can find these networks if it wants to. Look what happened to BacklinkSolutions original network. Taken down in one fell swoop. I dunno how the network was rooted out, but it was. My guess is that they didn't think their's was traceable either at the time.

      flaminjo - AMA and MAN are the same network. Don't join both because you'll be distribution to the same sites.
      • [3] replies
  • I'm a member of AMA and the whole PGB site. I agree with most of what people said about AMA here. AMA wasn't made for short term results. The fact that you don't see backlinks quickly has nothing to do with AMA. It's just that backlink checker softwares don't show most of the backlinks before 3-4 months.
    • [1] reply
    • I would say even more - backlink checking is "dance with closed eyes", because backlink checking tools simply cannot show the real number of backlinks. Not because they are nasty, but because they are technologically cut off (by search engines) from this possibility.

      Please check this forum thread where I give video proofs of that issue - http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ble-video.html
      • [1] reply
  • The problem I had with Article Automation was fact that my articles went to under a dozen blogs after spending 2 hours re-writing content to be unique enough for publishers. I really thought that there would have been many more publishers for my content than that.
    My time would have been better spent just releasing that content to the better article directories. And the price on AMA is pretty high for these kinds of results.
    • [1] reply

    • That's probabaly because there wqeren't more blogs in the category you chose while submitting. Most of my articles go to over 50 blogs. If you want to get backlinks from a higher number of blogs you just need to change the category every time you post a new article. Let's say your niche is gardening you can probabaly post to home-gardening, home-General, home improvement etc You just need to be careful about the categories you choose because if they don't match with your article publishers won't accept them.

      For how long did you try AMA??? I have seen people with some amazing results even though I'm pretty new to this and my sites are only over a month old so I can't say this for myself. So far my impression is that for each article submitted you get something like 3 backlinks show up in backlink checkers. But that doesn't mean the backlinks aren't there. As you probabaly already know backlink checkers are far from being accurate. I have the same number of baclkins showing on a short period of time with Anegal and Paul's links too so my guess is you have to be patient and wait 3-4 months to see the full extent of reults with baclink building.
      • [1] reply
  • I like the looks of Free Traffic System though..a free option to join is such a great way to get more blogs into the network...all looking for relevant content to publish.
  • I tried AMA but did not get that many links. I'll say that I didn't submit that many articles either though. Just didn't like the fact that you had to wait for people to accept your articles. Haven't tried Linkvana or My article network. I've heard that article marketer works well though. I've only used it once but I'm still waiting on the results.

    Have any of you tried Jet Spinner... I'm Using it now... It's an awsome FREE spinner and you can choose to upgrade to the subbmitter service. But you can still spin for free and just copy and past the spun articles(that's what I just started doing anyways). I think I'll upgrade next paycheck. It's similar to AMA in the way that it spins. You can also spin the anchor text as well (all though I haven't figured that out yet though), which as you know is good for SEO.


    Any ways it's just a suggestion. Hope that helps.
  • Well you can't really compare UAW and AMA. AMA uses anchor text linking and UAW seems to be dealing with article directories. Not the same service at all. By the way the reason AMA articles are published over a certain amount of time is that AMA owners belive that building links slowly seems more natural to google ( I don't say this is ture).
    • [1] reply
    • True, I agree about AMA and UAW, but you could compare them in terms of link building services in general, right? And that's actually what I did.
      • [1] reply
  • Yes link juicer seems very interestiung too. I have been using this technique of promotion your promotion it looks very natural and it seems towork great.
    • [1] reply
    • Lots of great posts here on different services.

      I have persevered with AMA even though I may not see any fruits of my labour for 3 months (which seems the general consensus) On one level I can understand them not mentioning this time frame, on the other hand if I knew that from the start I wouldn't have been frustrated and slagging them off quite so much.
  • does anyone have more info on link juicer. This service seems very interesting and it seems it can turn out quite effective combiend with AMA.
    • [1] reply
    • Why don't you take the free trial and then tell us what you think? ;^)
      • [1] reply
  • I'm currently making a case study on my blog with some of these services. I'm targeting the keyword "affiliate marketing training" for my site.

    Here are the services I've used so far:

    1. Article Marketing Automation

    I like it so far, although I didn't see the results yet.

    2. Unique Article Wizard

    UAW is pretty impressive. The next day, I could already find my articles on various websites online. This is article marketing on steroids.

    What is good with this service is that it will spin your article so each of the article directories have a UNIQUE article. It's brilliant.

    3. Article Marketer

    I also use free press release sites along with those services.

    Franck
    here is the automated backlink case study if you want to have a look
    • [1] reply
    • What are the exit policies of each of these?

      That is, if you decide to leave the service at any time do your previously submitted articles and links stay or go away?
      • [1] reply
  • I really like to see more success story about the link juicer, I've yet see much result from it, other than varying my link source, I can't comment much.

    If anyone use the link juicer with great success, please share...

    Use article marketing to build backlinks just take too much time, I switch to Angela backlinks type of link building, and it seems much effective.

    Creating good content to generate natural linking is the best way, and the method seems much easier than we though. The key is to identify as much high traffic authority site that accept your content, and use them to get tons of traffic and links to your site in the shortest time!

    - Kok Choon
  • I have used UAW, Linkvana, AMA, and 1waylinks... and currently use UAW, AMA and 1waylinks.

    They are all pretty decent.

    One thing to keep in mind is that 1waylinks have stricter policies regarding the type of sites you can link to... but all in all a very good service.

    Having a diverse linking portfolio is important for sustained rankings so I would say subscribe to one or two of these services, then spend your time using some other methods as well.

    /Steven
    • [1] reply
  • I don't like strict policy, especially silly one!

    I want to be able to promote Yoga, Martial Art, Traditional Chinese Medicine, and 1waylinks seems to "hate" those sites...
    • [1] reply
    • One thing I need to mention and I hope the folks over at ArticleMarketingAutomation.com read this.... Their support ABSOLUTELY SUCKS BIG TIME, In fact their is NO SUPPORT AT ALL!!!

      I Have contacted their support department on several occasions and have NEVER HAD A REPLY... N-E-V-E-R!

      I did some research afterwords and found numerous post on several other forums that indicate the same thing... Their Support Sucks and is totally non existent

      Oh and another thing... I referred a friend of mine to their service and he signed up through my affiliate link and guess what... I Did Not get credit for the referral, so I contacted their affiliate support 3 fu**ing times and once again NEVER got a reply

      Needless to say... we have both quit their service and have moved on to others who have great service with great customer support

      On a last note... I own an off line business where customer support is the back bone to my success... I'm here to tell you without customer support every business will eventually fail, and I hope ArticleMarketingAutomation.com goes Tits Up... looks good on them

      They're so busy grabbing the money they've forgotten the basic tenet of any marketing - "The customer is #1".
      • [3] replies
  • Banned
    LV is slow. AMA does not rank my sites high enough. BacklinkSolution is okay. But FTS is one of the best system out there.
    • [3] replies
    • The thing is that you don't want to rely on just AMA to rank your website. You need to use all the backlink strategies available.

      Franck

    • Hi Guys,

      I am on the verge on signing up with either AMA or My Article Network.

      As I understand, both have the same blog network and spinning and submission process. But in terms of customer support and tutorials/help videos etc., who would you suggest?

      For those who are affiliates of either networks, do you have to sign up a minimum number of people under you to get paid?

      Thanks!
      • [2] replies
    • My biggest gripe with FTS is they ignore my support emails.

      That, and I find that I can't get close to their maximum number of links because they don't have enough blogs in my niches.
  • I've used MAN and I must say that it does work to an extent. It is definitely a long-term approach (that's just the nature of SEM anyway). I do notice that I can do one article submission and find that my article and have it indexed in over 100 results. It's all just a matter of time before it really kicks in.

    HOWEVER... what I'm very disappointed in though is that the majority of blogs my article is being posted on either has PR0 or PR1 and sometimes PR2 at best. Still, for the price and what it does, it is a steal.
  • Here's 2 example of obvious footprints, although I'd really like to know what link system they're using so I can avoid it.

    promdressgown dot com/luck.php and promdressgown dot com/contactus.php
    • [1] reply
    • Hey guys,

      I've been using Free Traffic System (a free account) for a while now along with an automated article submitter (with no spinning).

      I'm not seeing significant results despite submitting steadily linking to my articles and blogs at the rate of about 2 or 3 links a day.

      Am I being penalised for duplicate content amongst different article directories? Are the posts on the FTS blogs not being found? Are they too low quality?

      I am still trying to find a good linking strategy and have thought of joining AMA or Linkvana. Any tips would be much appreciated.


      Denise
  • LinkVana has recently come out with a brand new article network system in addition to their blog network...

    Looks interesting...
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • For those who has been using Unique Article Wizard, do they accept PLR with rewrite?
  • I would simply stear away from these link buying schemes. Had never heard of anyone getting any real life long term results by taking shortcuts - just in my experience.
  • Good post. Learned a lot. Thanks
  • Im using Amautomation, have been using it for about 8 months maybe more. I have only used it for one site and have submitted 15 articles (this equals 1200 submissions to blogs). I have got 5 page 1 results from this alone so I would say its pretty good. I got lazy and stopped writting articles because its alot of work to spin the articles, and takes awhile. However tonight I just used The Best Article Spinner. It took me 1 hour to have an article ready and I would say with practice it will take about 30 minutes to have a article ready to submit 70-100 times or more.

    What I dont understand though is that the backlinks for this site is only 50, yet it should be over 1,000 - so for some reason the backlinks dont all count for amautomation?
  • Daniel, given that AMA sites are owned by members of AMA what is the long term weakeness in the acceptance and publication of articles that limts its effectiveness?

    You, as a member provide the content and so the quality is whatever you are willing to provide, as site owner, I will not accept rubbish, although some folks run their sites on autopilot so given that, as you correctly state, the content is the key I am unsure as to what you were getting at here.
    For myself, three anchor text backlinks from content that is provided by me and meets my own standards seems to be about as good as one can get. I know I can target a small range of related terms and hit the target every time, I know that it is very rare that my material will be rejected because it is well written and on topic, so I do not waste my time and the network has been around for a while now without any problems from SE's.
    • [1] reply

    • To be honest I can see no valid reason why you'd want to limit the number of backlinks you get and so it seems that you may be reaching a tad here. However, as a user of the system I can assure you that I do not see my articles coming up time and again from the same places. That said, it is irrelevant anyway!
      Even if you still believe that PageRank is anything more than a kiddy toy to let people have fun with shiny things then you also know that PR is about PAGES. The PR algorithm and commentaries outlined that PR is a vote divided between all the outgoing links on a page, hence the name. PR is NOT about a site and so you could have loads of articles linking to different keywords and all linking to different pages on your sites and the effect is exactly the same as having your articles on loads of different sites, as long as the number of articles on the blog network remains unchanged in both scenarios.
      If what you say about content is true and your opinion of PR or whatever one wants to call it are both true then autopublishing is not an issue, no need to modify how content is published, in this regard at least.
      Oh, from what I can see, I have no concerns about seeing my content on any of the sites n the AMA network, apart from anything else I know that 'a link is a link is a link'.

      Also, the system does not simply blast out your articles, they are released over time and so they will go to a randomised selection of sites. You will not get, for example, 50 links made in one day. Bottom line your concern, even if valid simply does not happen and certainly the 'effectiveness of the service in the long term' is not limited.
  • OK, Dan, you DO know that just because a link is not showing in Google does not mean that it is not used and providing whatever kind of benefit to the linked to site? You DO know that yes?

    Secondly YOU made the point that the links were the thing, not the PR of the page and you were right. Even if my experience of the system since its inception matched with yours (which it does not!) because you were correct about the link and PR thing your point is simply immaterial.

    I confess to a degree of curiosity here though. By what mechanism do search engines divine that you have posted articles on two occasions rather than one when the blog network is posting your content over a period of many weeks?

    However, really, whatever happens over time choosing to restrict the universe of links available to you makes no sense!
    If it does, what is the optimum number, 1?

    Given what we know of ranking algorithms from public information from the horse's mouth we know that the more links the better.

    Oh, given that sites on autoapprove are not identified as such to users how do you know that your posts were going to autoapprove sites much of the time? What difference does it make whether a site is on autoapprove or not? I have sites in the system and I can tell you that it makes no difference to the content I receive and assuming I set sensible post acceptance rates, choose my categories and map them sensibly no difference to the nicheing of the content (not that that matters much either, from a poster's point of view.)

    Can I strongly suggest, at the risk of vexing some people, that we move away from SEM by superstition and look at fundamentals, the stuff we can know from publically available information from primary sources?
    • [1] reply
    • I signed up for UAW thanks for good recommendation by good people here in the forum.
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • Does anyone know if AMA and MAN share the same support desks?
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • I've tried AMA and its OK however I'd have to say... I've gotten the same results using my own article marketing method. Profile link building (angela/paul), forum link building, social bookmarking and the works needs to be incorporated to see results cause there is no such thing as a big red button to make unlimited money
    • [1] reply
    • Yes, in the end it is only building backlinks. The thing is that AMA gives access to scads of sites, often, if not always, well niched and can really help kickstarting a site. Most of us do not have private access to a network of over 17K individually owned and run sites so AMA makes that task much easier. As you noted, the other stuff is necessary too, doing only blog network posts will not build a successful business for many people, apart from the proprietors of the blog network.
  • Personally, I use AMA and UaWiz and I am satisfied with the results. I have considered joining LinkVana, however I am not sure yet.
  • I think will stick to Angela's links and will try linking loophole
    see how it goes
    • [1] reply
    • I'd suggest that, if you are seeking long term results that you consider using LL OR Angela's stuff (one essentially duplicates the other given that LL uses the same sites in the software, albeit not all of them) as PART of your promotional/marketing mix?

      Using only a single type of link leaves you open to SE algo changes and reflects only a single element of one's ranking and traffic strategy.
      • [1] reply
  • Great thread guys, was a good read to see everyones opinions, one network I'm considering it blog blueprint from the commission blueprint guys, you can see their WSO here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...uuIv3IwKIlNboq
  • Can Article Marketing Automation, Linkvana, My Article Network be used to generate buzz traffic (not through the top spot at major search engines) for making money online?
  • So many opinions, seems we just have to pick one and see what happens, some go well for this person and not for the other. Think I will give AMA a try. Thanks everyone.
  • I tried the FreeTrafficSystem and I didn't get results. I personally wouldn't use it again
  • I tried the FreeTrafficSystem and I didn't get results. I personally wouldn't use it again
  • Banned
    [DELETED]
  • Hiya all anybody tried this system with UAW: myarticletools.com
  • I am using BuildMyrank from the last 1 month and I think this is better then Linkvana because they provide many facilities like outsourcing your writing work to others. You can build unlimited links at BMR. There are different packages to serve diff needs.
  • Here's my thoughts on the link juicer.

    Awesome service, and build backlinks to your backlinks.
    I get all the urls in my report and use backlink energizer. Gets most of the links indexed and thus getting my site and clients ranked. Its a set and forget system. And every week i collect the urls and energize them. Works great.

    Not sure why people are not mentioning article ranks? Ive been using them together with uaw and tlj with awesome results!

Next Topics on Trending Feed