Xfactor John's guide - We Need a Users Agreement!!!

Yeah, I agree. I found 2-3 niches that has beaten me. I tend to stay out of it.

The principle is simple: I let you earn in your niche, you let me earn in my niche.

I disagree.

This isn't a club or anything, it's business.

And competition is part of business

I wouldn't create a website called "Credit Card Offers" and then ask everyone on page 1 to be less competitive so that I have a chance. Just as if I had an ice cream van, I wouldn't go around asking other ice cream vans to re-locate, etc.

Just the way it is. John's guide is just that - a guide. Not a club

I think the issue is that everyone is using the SAME template.

Can you imagine that out of the top 10 Google listing, 5 of them are Adsense, with the SAME template?

Are you dreaming? This is like war! I've warned about this in another thread and people
attacked me. Now everyone who is to dumb to use John's ebook only as a guideline, will
have to live with the consequences. I'm happy that others do the hardwork with keyword
research etc. Why should I or someone else don't use a niche we find? John has now
an affiliate program for his ebook. It now will sell like hotcake and websites like these will
grow like no tomorrow. As more people use his method exactly as he described it in his ebook
it will be very, very easy to find hundreds if not thousands of websites you can copy and
make easy money. And don't think those sites will stay on Googles first page very long.
I've talked about this in another thread and people thought that I'm talking trash. Let's see
who is right.

You're new here aren't you. Can I have a ride on your unicorn too? We could use a niche czar that controls how many are in each niche.

Sorry for being such a cynical smartass, but I thought you could use the wake up call. Welcome aboard here by the way.

As others have said this is a business. Kodak doesn't give up it's camera business because Polaroid has that niche or vice versa. Coke isn't giving way to Pepsi. You compete and you win, lose, or share the market.

You're always going to face some competition no matter what niche your in.

So they are using the same technique as you, now you need to do a little more to get ahead of them that's all. So make your approach hybrid. Johns technique + some other stuff (that you don't tell anyone about).

Right now with John's technique the quickest way to find the niches is to craft a google search to pick up the people using the template as John showed in his course. Then you've got possible keywords. Confirm the numbers on those because those people might not have gotten it right or whatever and then enter that niche yourself depending on if you think you can profit, etc.

You may well stumble across some niches I'm in, though you may not know it from the look of the site. My template is different than John's and not just in color, and it works well. Feel free to enter my niches as you see fit. Except weightloss, I'd kindly ask everyone else to stay out of that, because I'm working that one.

@ code64, yes they will be super easy to find, but it won't be easy to profit with those unless you know how to get the traffic. Not saying you don't, but just saying that if another person enters the black watch band niche, it just dilutes the search traffic by 1 more site. People need to be able to get the traffic. Probably won't be hard because most people will not do enough link building to get these off the ground, especially with the new competition. I think the key here is as another warrior I'll paraphrase because I forgot who said it. I'm not done working on a site until I've karate chopped, drop kicked and punched the traffic level to where it needs to be.

I think asking people not to compete is asking the impossible. I've come across this a few times and have debated with myself. Basically I make the decision based on the quality of the site. if the site looks like 5 minutes was spent on content and then it was thrown up with no other effort I'll probably go for it. However, if it looks like someone has actually put a lot of time and effort into their development and the content is solid I'll let it go.

That's just how I do it...

Great idea, unfortunately it wont be executed! I admire you for your thread though!

My advice is when you see another xfactor-style template site, just move on to a similar keyword. If at least target separate main keywords, it's a lot less easy to get each other angry. And once you both succeed and grow more and more sites, you could even start swapping links in order to help you both.

It doesn't have to be war. The resources are still simply too vast for anyone to tap out. Why compete for a niche resource when, with a little more legwork, you can find a whole bunch of related niches that are totally untapped. There are so many I've found, I've passed many off to friends. I'm stopping at 20 new sites now to concentrate on link building. So far, about 10 of the sites are getting traffic that is bringing in $10-15 a day. Once the next set of 10 sites are indexed, I expect this will rise to $20-35 a day for starters.

Most of these sites are showing up in the top 7-12 for their keyword based in just their first link. So as more links are slowly added (to appear more natural), they should be rising up to the top 1-3 spots, give or take. When that happens, it's pretty easy to see the day when the 20 micro sites (built in about 2 weeks) will bring in $100 a day. So we really don't need to play nasty to make some nice money fast. We just need to expand our minds a bit and broaden the base of the products we are considering. Like stopping by a pool store or sporting goods store or plumbing showroom or even a Home Depot. Take notes, because you are bound to think of a ton of stuff to look up once you get home.

--Scott

I've found some while doing product research. However, most have been either half-hearted attempts or have been sites that have missed the mark completely.

One note: Spin your "about me," "contact" and "privacy policy" pages. It's super simple to just search for a clip of this text and find every one of your niche sites. I'm not the type to steal every niche I find, but I do look (I consider it competition research).

Another option would be to use very common examples of these pages. This way your sites get lost in the sea of results if someone searches.

-K

then find other low competing niche , There is a lot more good niche.............

But if you want to have a battle , then dive in . and prepare to win a battle
this is business , and you couldn;t just begging to other same business owner to keep quiet.......

Here's something I've been doing.. if you stumble on to a really great niche, register the remaining major TLDs (com / net / org) after the niche proves out and it'll make it much more difficult for someone to compete out of the gate.

I agree here, that it makes no sense to believe
you could ever convince someone to stay away
from a lucrative niche.

Not gonna happen.

But, let's be honest...

If your niche has enough traffic

is a hungry crowd etc,

and you optimize well...

you know... you do NOT have to be on page one of G.

You should build MORE mini-sites and scratch the surface with all of them together and get some of the action. It's much harder to always fight for rankings for just ONE site. Much better (and easier) to get some action from many sites simultaneously.

Then you don't have to worry about your one specific spot in Google.

Do you guys/gals feel the same way?