No 1 in Yahoo, but nowhere in Google

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

Hi all,

I wrote a page optimised for a keyword phrase with high traffic and no competition in the IT niche (it's a very low value keyword). My website's been around since '99 and gets a lot of traffic.

After 1 month I am now No. 1 for Yahoo for this phrase. However I'm getting practically no referals from Google for the same page. So does anyone know what the problem is. Could it be:

Over optimised page?
Page not old enough?
Too similar to existing pages?
Not enough backlinks?
Something else?

There must be some sort of Google specific thing going on. I'd love to solve it as my related pages have got huge amounts of traffic using this technique.

Thanks!

Sorry that no one has replied to your post.

How do you decide that the phrase has no competition? Any chance that you are wrong about this.

Your logic seems a bit strange. You say you are #1 in Yahoo but getting no traffic from Google. Apples and oranges. What exactly is your Google rank for the phrase? It is entirely possible, indeed likely, that you are getting no traffic because the "high search volume" is simply BS, as Google data often is. Your remark that "it's a very low value keyword" makes this even more likely.

Without knowing the keyword and seeing your page, it is hard to be more precise. But if this is a question of ranking, just get some good links with the right anchor text.

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MarketAbel 14 years ago

I think alot of people are seeing strange things with Google in the last couple of weeks.

I have a similar story with a website for my father's bicycle shop. I was able to get it to #1 for "san antonio bicycle rental" in Yahoo, but in Google it was like 100+ deep!

That was about 1 week ago. Now it is still #1 in Yahoo and up to about 55-65 in Google...
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- paulgl 14 years ago
  
  Did it ever occur to you that just maybe google and yahoo are
  different search engines? Stuff like that happens all the time.
  Frustrating, but just keep on keeping on. Sometimes google just
  refuses to included pages. I have several high on yahoo, not
  on google. Several high on google, not on yahoo. You cannot
  force google to do anything. Too many people think there is some
  magic formula. There isn't. Google does what it chooses.
  
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Aira Bongco

14 years ago

That's wierd. If it really has that much traffic, then you should get at least a trickle from Google. Unless you are not ranked.

Well, is your content of some use to the reader or is it duplicate, keyword stuffed content? I notice that my sites with keyword focused content tends to rank lower than my authority sites that offers more value.

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Brad Callen

14 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

Hi all,

I wrote a page optimised for a keyword phrase with high traffic and no competition in the IT niche (it's a very low value keyword). My website's been around since '99 and gets a lot of traffic.

After 1 month I am now No. 1 for Yahoo for this phrase. However I'm getting practically no referals from Google for the same page. So does anyone know what the problem is. Could it be:

Over optimised page?
Page not old enough?
Too similar to existing pages?
Not enough backlinks?
Something else?

There must be some sort of Google specific thing going on. I'd love to solve it as my related pages have got huge amounts of traffic using this technique.

Thanks!

It would be much easier to diagnose with the URL. Until then, it is all just speculation. Though some good back links would most likely take care of the poor visibility on Google.

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lexilexi

14 years ago

I've been in this situation. Last year had a certain 14,000 exact match KW #1 in Yahoo, and not in Google top 100.
Yahoo weights things differently. Previously, I mostly had what I call "ant links" to the site - i.e. comment links, crappy forum profiles and a small handful of good ones. Didn't have enough decent links from unique authority domains. Situation now rectified, #3 in Yahoo (beaten by Wikipedia, doh!) and currently #5 in Google.

Also, if you want to be sure, do a proper link profile analysis of your competitors. Use opensiteexplorer.org to see unique domains.

There *is* a magic formula, it's called the algorithm! But many SEO pros won't tell you their best strategies - of course. The good news is that quite often, if you were only missing one piece of the puzzle, once you fix it, you'll go pinging up the rankings like a rocket.

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mattlaclear

14 years ago

Yahoo just ranks pages faster than Google does. Just wait it out and keep backlinking you'll get there eventually. Google is a lot like my wife in the fact that I can plead with her to hurry up in the shopping mall all I want but it won't make her move any quicker whatsoever. Some things just take time.

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kcorps

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

Yahoo just ranks pages faster than Google does. Just wait it out and keep backlinking you'll get there eventually. Google is a lot like my wife in the fact that I can plead with her to hurry up in the shopping mall all I want but it won't make her move any quicker whatsoever. Some things just take time.

Agree, Google is slower to rank pages. Just be patient and look the result

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ursimrankhanna

14 years ago

Hi,
Yeah yahoo rank faster than Google but Google is better than all search engine. just wait to get results.

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HowardJackson

14 years ago

Google SEO technology is far more advanced than Yahoo.

Yahoo relies mostly on keywords, so you can still "trick" the search engine to get a good position.

On the other hand, Google uses multiple factors like keywords, relevance, votes from the users, back-links and a few that we may not know about yet.

Best regards,
Howard J.

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Haussingen Peter

14 years ago

u should exactly give out your site rank in google,then we can compare the result to analysis why the phenomenon happens

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brettb

14 years ago

My pages are still nowhere in Google. I'm sure they'll rise up the rankings eventually.

I've never been much into link building - "if you build it they will come" works for me.

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IntegratedS

14 years ago

Both shows the different search results I have some keywords of my website which are ranking good in Google and nowhere in yahoo and very back in bing...

Different algorithm of all the search engines..

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pamawali

14 years ago

Hello brettb,

Are you sure that your page is indexed by google?From your title, I thought that it is not indexed in google. You can submit your site in google addurl. Just open Google and type Google indexing. You shall find the Google Indexing at the top.It is often two to three hours once you submit your site and it starts appearing in google.
Now the rules of thumb for page optimization is 2to 3%. Just check for optimization.
By the way, you are lucky that Brad callen replied to your question. May be you can get some help by means of PM.
(Hello Brad Callen, Nice to see You)
All the best!

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buyfrompowerseller.com 14 years ago

I see the same thing. No 1 on Yahoo but randomly out of top 10 in Google (sometimes I make to top 5) based on SEO tool (various locations)

One thing I did notice is that Yahoo counts the link you put on place that does not accept HTML (it's a simple text www . yourdomain . com) while Google does not count them. That may be the differrent
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brettb 14 years ago

Yes my new pages are in Google. The site (brettb.com) dates from '99 and has 1000's of visits per month. I'm getting search engine referals, but for the new pages I mention they're like 95% Yahoo and 5% Google. This is odd because it's usually the other way round.
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