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Yay or nay?
I'm using Scrapebox right now.
#senuke
  • Profile picture of the author Dano77
    dang silly automation tools... I know i'll get flamed for saying that but seriously...

    It's just another form of spamming... and the extra effort made by real comments, real juicy articles and real goodies far outweighs anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author orvn
      I know what you mean. Until a few weeks ago, I was a happy generator of healthy traffic.

      I contributed to the internet with genuinely interesting content that had never been conceived of before, this often generated utterly ridiculous traffic flow from the social web.

      Then I decided to give scrapebox a try. I've been spamming and I sort of feel link a huge jerk.

      Now,
      Everytime I spam,
      I feel like a baby hamster dies.



      Oh goodness. What have I become?!

      How do I stop? I need new mass traffic strategies.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dano77
        Yeah,

        I get the sarcasm that it sure seems like if something works, why not? Why not game the search engines and grab all the cash you can? After all the affiliate programs, the packages, and the adsense ads usually have some consumer benefit right?

        It's not that i'm totally against spamming really...

        To be honest I genuinely believe that the honesty way (especially in this world of web 2.0) actually can work faster when done right...

        The key is using linkable assets and things people WANT to share with others.... Placing those on your content rich, thin affiliate sites and having them shared and blogged about by a ton of people and then using THAT to pump link authority to that domain... From there... any content or ads you place on your site will rank higher and yet you'll still be providing a value.

        Make sense?
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        • Profile picture of the author orvn
          Originally Posted by Dano77 View Post

          To be honest I genuinely believe that the honesty way (especially in this world of web 2.0) actually can work faster when done right...
          Believe it or not, you're preaching to the choir (:
          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...nkbaiting.html

          I actually follow a similar philosophy and usually advocate being an awesome content generator instead of a hugely selfish spammer.

          It's just that for pure link building, I can't find anything fast enough. My link baiting techniques are gold, but what if I want lots of consistent dofollow links, being built continuously?

          Honestly, I know there was a little sarcasm in my last post, but I'm new to all this spam cr@p.

          I feel like a jedi being tempted by the dark side.
          I don't like it.
          But it's just really oh so very alluring.

          Do you have any suggestions of more healthy mass-traffic strategies I could use?
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  • Profile picture of the author abnation
    Well... You could of course use Scrapebox just to scrape blogs and then write out thoughtful comments manually?? If that makes you feel better...

    Regarding SEnuke, it's actually not such a bad tool. I like the account creator and all the added features, but well there is a slight learning curve actually and it's a bit expensive too.
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    • Profile picture of the author blueorca17
      Originally Posted by abnation View Post

      Well... You could of course use Scrapebox just to scrape blogs and then write out thoughtful comments manually?? If that makes you feel better...

      Regarding SEnuke, it's actually not such a bad tool. I like the account creator and all the added features, but well there is a slight learning curve actually and it's a bit expensive too.
      This is a great idea. Scrapebox is just a tool...and it's HOW YOU USE it that matters. You don't have to automate commenting with unrelated junk. You can just scrape the urls and then manually comment and taylor each comment to the site that you're leaving the link on.

      Senuke is pretty cool...and the neat part about it is that it creates accounts for you on bookmarking sites with ease. When I first got it I didn't have accounts a lot of the sites that it had in its list, so it was kind of a relief that I din't have to manually do it.
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      • Profile picture of the author capstan88
        Does senuke have any capabilities, (like creating accounts on bookmark sites), that would make it useful for 1 month? Then cancel?

        For someone new, since senuke has a learning curve, would I be better informed of the entire seo process after just figuring out how to use senuke?

        And last question, would there be a reason to have market samurai AND senuke, or are they basically the same.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
          Originally Posted by capstan88 View Post

          Does senuke have any capabilities, (like creating accounts on bookmark sites), that would make it useful for 1 month? Then cancel?

          For someone new, since senuke has a learning curve, would I be better informed of the entire seo process after just figuring out how to use senuke?

          And last question, would there be a reason to have market samurai AND senuke, or are they basically the same.
          You will not be better informed of SEO from figuring out how to use SENuke. You'd better know what you're doing SEO-wise or it is a waste of money. Now that I can use it, I don't want to pay the price tag for what it does so I'm going another route.

          That said, some people swear by it and do profit from using it. If you could figure out a way to make it useful for 1 month+canceling then you could use it EVERY month and keep profiting. Your biggest waste form canceling would be time spent learning the software.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I don't want to say using these tools is good or bad for your websites. but i know many websites which are raking very good in search engines but they didn't use of such softwares for promoting their websites. I mean if you make some quality backlinks manually, it can help you a lot and its better than thousands of low quality and automated made backlinks. Its just my idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author JasonValens
      SENuke would be a nay. Scrapebox is a big yay for harvesting, put valuable comments on the valuable blogs and post using custom imacros scripts on the others and any new footprints that the industrial scale guys find (so you're not just limited to the CMS's etc that scrapebox has posting capability for, even though it does have a learning mode).Keeping my questionable and unquestionable operations seperate of course. Fast Traffic / Slow(er) traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eswar
        I used SEnuke for a month. The software crashed almost every day. I had little success with profile backlinks. But i had to spend much to complete the task. Finally i cam to the conclusion to use the $127+29(private proxy) for outsourcing the link building task. Still If you want to try senuke find out the WSO for senuke and get premium membership for $67 for a month. I hope this helps you.

        BTW I use scrapebox for many tasks other than spamming the blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author jameshards
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Carrera
      Well, I think that automated tools are like any other weapon. Can be used for good or for bad. If I have content that I want to promote, you need to talk about it all over the place, and link back to your site. This is the way it works, and search engines like it.

      In order to do that, you need to create accounts in different places. I don't feel better doing it manually to be honest. Of course post there quality content and not whatever crap to put your link. Write good articles, and do good spins. I don't think is wrong to say the same thing in different ways every time. This happens all the time when speaking in "real time".

      Anyway, the point here is promote your main quality content right? very little percent of the other articles would be read ever, and they won't be up in the search engines either, so it is like invisible. They are just for the link, and our friend Google takes care of not showing them. I don't see that like spamming the mailbox of someone with rubbish.

      Does that make sense?
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Break a speed limit even though you could smash a child to pieces and nobody cares.

    Find blogs purely to get a comment link and people go nuts.

    Funny species.
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  • Profile picture of the author Domenic Carlson
    Just use it as a tool and post manually. If it finds a blog that was auto-generated itself, be less careful to write a good comment than when the blogger took time to write a good post. It's basically just being respectful and providing a little value yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbp8610
    Senuke is WAY overpriced. If you're gonna be spending that much money each month might as well pay for a server for Xrumer
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  • Profile picture of the author easyppcmoney
    My vote is in for SENUKE!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author arjuna79
    I've used senuke for 6 months for only $47/month and so far awesome
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    • Profile picture of the author MrDresh1
      what the hell is senuke?
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    my vote is for senuke x cr
    great software but there is a learning curve. get a coach while you are learning to learn new techniques.
    it is the most automated software. magic submitter less automated but good as well.
    for the value of money......get magic submitter
    for automated and ease of use get senuke
    price difference....senuke charges $70 more per month. i am a firm believer that they charge more for a reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author twilightofidols
      SENuke and scrapebox is like comparing a pineapple to a new york steak.

      Understand what both of them do and decide if you need them.

      Scrapebox has MANY uses other than just blog commenting I'm sure you've discovered by now.

      SENuke is for creating blog articles, web 2.0 profiles, press releases, forum profiles, etc......

      Don't listen to the "boy who cried spam". People need to stop this silly notion that automation = spam. Work smarter, not harder.
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