PR dropping

15 years ago

You have to accept the PR will drop in many cases, UNLESS you can put up a website that is almost identical to the original one. I have some experience of this before, many years back. The drops will be 1-3 PR. i.e PR 4 to PR 2.

Some people go to the extent of recreating the inner page URLs as well. Maintaining the language and topic is very important.

Also, if the linking pages (incoming links) dropped in PR, your site will naturally drop in PR.

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MikeFriedman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dellco

You have to accept the PR will drop in many cases, UNLESS you can put up a website that is almost identical to the original one. I have some experience of this before, many years back. The drops will be 1-3 PR. i.e PR 4 to PR 2.

Some people go to the extent of recreating the inner page URLs as well. Maintaining the language and topic is very important.

Also, if the linking pages (incoming links) dropped in PR, your site will naturally drop in PR.

This is completely false. The content of the site has nothing to do with the PR.

Now, the site structure if it had a lot of internal links could have an impact on the homepage's PR, but that still wouldn't show up until the next toolbar PR update.

It is likely just something temporary showing up and will readjust once Google recrawls the site.

Also make sure you have the correct www version of the site. Sometimes the non-www version will have the PR or vice versa, but not both.

The ONLY thing that will cause a drop in PR is the loss of backlinks. As long as they are still there, the PR will still be there.

The other possibility is that you missed something and this was a fake PR to begin with.

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Dellco

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

This is completely false. The content of the site has nothing to do with the PR.

Yes it does, but this might have to do with link decay too. You surely do not expect the Google bot not to recognize the content has changed, if not now, surely later on?

I find it hard to believe you can get an expired domain, change its content, and then maintain the PR later on? I know a certain blog network was doing this, and most of the domains always lost PR soon after. Doesn't work that way....

I also have gotten a PR 5 and after putting up a site on it, the PR dropped after the next update. But what do I know, you're the expert here :rolleyes:

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MikeFriedman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dellco

Yes it does, but this might have to do with link decay too. You surely do not expect the Google bot not to recognize the content has changed, if not now, surely later on?

I find it hard to believe you can get an expired domain, change its content, and then maintain the PR later on? I know a certain blog network was doing this, and most of the domains always lost PR soon after. Doesn't work that way....

I also have gotten a PR 5 and after putting up a site on it, the PR dropped after the next update. But what do I know, you're the expert here :rolleyes:

Sure Google is going to recognize the content has changed. That still has NOTHING to do with PageRank. PageRank is a measure of the quality of incoming links. Content does not effect the PR.

And yes, you can buy an expired domain, completely change the content, and still maintain the PR for years. As long as the links stay there, the PR will. That is part of evaluating a domain before buying it. You need to study the backlinks and try to make a determination if they are links that will remain or are likely to disappear.

But again, the content of the site has nothing to do with the PR.

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UMS

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

The ONLY thing that will cause a drop in PR is the loss of backlinks. As long as they are still there, the PR will still be there.

I know the intent of what you are saying, but I feel that it's important to point out that if you take over a domain and completely change the structure of the site, you'll almost certainly have a lot of dead backlinks, ie: backlinks pointing to non-existent pages.

At the very least, you should create 301 redirects from those pages to an appropriate page within the new site structure.

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radivoj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

I know the intent of what you are saying, but I feel that it's important to point out that if you take over a domain and completely change the structure of the site, you'll almost certainly have a lot of dead backlinks, ie: backlinks pointing to non-existent pages.

At the very least, you should create 301 redirects from those pages to an appropriate page within the new site structure.

Not necessarily that will PR drop,I purchased 8 month ago domain from auction it was expiring domain which was registered by 2003 and when I purchased domain it had PR 6 with content on it relative to the "credit card" niche site had over 50 pages of content the domain also doesn't include any kw relative to my niche I got domain I installed word press and add my own content for my niche and start to building links to that site I got site ranked #1 on Google for targeting kw in less then a month and site is still ranked #1 since I purchased domain 8 month ago it had PR 6 now it has PR 8 so I have to say I haven't notice any PR drop after I changed a content, some site may drop PR but I haven't experience this in my domain that I purchased from auction, it did work great for me...

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MikeFriedman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by UMS

I know the intent of what you are saying, but I feel that it's important to point out that if you take over a domain and completely change the structure of the site, you'll almost certainly have a lot of dead backlinks, ie: backlinks pointing to non-existent pages.

At the very least, you should create 301 redirects from those pages to an appropriate page within the new site structure.

Yes, the structure of a site can cause a loss of backlinks, which goes back to my original point of losing backlinks causing loss of PR.

Also, even if you lose backlinks that way, the change in PR is not going to show up until the next PR toolbar update.

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CBTSHARE

15 years ago

So how do I get it back?

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hurn

15 years ago

need back links from high PR sites

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mickyjohn 15 years ago

To get back your website page rank you need to create back links on the websites which has already a high tune of page rank. So that these websites can drive link juice to your website and it will beneficial in page rank.
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Jashandeepmax

15 years ago

Yes, keep focus on quality backlinks and build backlinks from do follow,high PR and relevant websites.Sometimes when you changed one website then it can be a cause of dropping PR.But no worries,keep continue your quality link building work and you will get PR of your website again by sure.

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addlinkweb

15 years ago

because Google realized that your website is completely changed to a different niche. That's why according to its policies it dropped its rank. Now you have to build up again

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jhonybravo222

15 years ago

I think the content of your site is not a quality content, when visitor comes to your site may not get the relevant information. So, you have to focus on content that provides actual information to visitor for which he comes to your site.

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Sanwal

15 years ago

Pr has nothing what so ever to do with the content, rather the pages pointing to your pages. Quite likely the inner pages had pagerank but you did not rebuild the inner pages, the links pointing to you in which that orignal page has pr, passes pagerank.

I'm amazed at the responses here and stupid knowledge of pagerank, get your facts straight guys and learn how pagerank works.

Mike's the only sensible one who pointed it out, pisses me of even more that not knowing anything about pagerank you guys are "guiding him."

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hocuspocus32

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ghufran1

I'm amazed at the responses here and stupid knowledge of pagerank, get your facts straight guys and learn how pagerank works.

Mike's the only sensible one who pointed it out, pisses me of even more that not knowing anything about pagerank you guys are "guiding him."

yeah thats right, why dont people just keep quiet if they have no idea about what they are telling. Rather than helping the GUy it will surely confuse him more.

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GeeWhiz1

15 years ago

I've seen this a lot the passed few days. Google seems to be deindexing a lot of links, so you'll inevitably lose PR if you're losing backlinks.

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mnichs23

15 years ago

Yes,

You need backlinks from higher PR sites to get high pr for your site....

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CBTSHARE

15 years ago

The problem isnt with the content, the content is good and it has over 6000 links to the site and I use redirect to make sure links to internal pages dont get 404 error.

I built some articles and more unique content and tumblr backlinks of over 200 pr 7 to 5 with low obl(40 obl per page) .So we'll see.