Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers

kerron.a · 07-19-2010, 12:04 PM

Hi guys I was just wondering if it is possible to make a decent passive income from offline CPA marketing.

I've been thinking of creating and sending out some flyers promoting a couple CPA offers with url redirects to the offer page.

If anyone has been making some good money from this method please share you success story. Also which offers do you guys think convert well with this type of marketing.

Thanks
Kerron

excoder01 · 07-19-2010, 12:11 PM

I was thinking of doing this with CPA offers...but with Comic Con coming up (gathering of 200K movie watchers/gamers/geeks)...I have printed of Clickbank gaming/movie products to promote and hire people to pass out.

vikramd · 07-19-2010, 12:53 PM

Yes - this method works but the stuff drips in slowly so talk to your affiliate manager. Give them a head's up and tell them what you are doing - that way they understand where the traffic is coming from.

The other day I saw a sign - "Stop Home Foreclosures NOW!" and it had an 888 number. I called the number (had a hunch here) and sure enough - it was just a voicemail telling me to go to 'blahblahstopforeclosuresvirginia.info'.

Not sure why they didn't just list the URL on the ad though.

But offline does work.

kerron.a · 07-19-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by excoder01

I was thinking of doing this with CPA offers...but with Comic Con coming up (gathering of 200K movie watchers/gamers/geeks)...I have printed of Clickbank gaming/movie products to promote and hire people to pass out.

Man I wish I knew some trustworthy people I could hire to pass out flyers at Comic Con, with the right offer i'lm sure you will see some good results.

Also that's some good advice Vikramd. I guess conversions would also depend on the type of offers promoted. I was thinking of promoting some free trial, education and dating offers. Guess i'll see which works best

excoder01 · 07-19-2010, 03:01 PM

Ya, the Comic Con thing is an experiment actually. There's no event that have 150K to 200K+ people in one area who are movie watchers, gamers, and anyone buying a high price for entertainment.

So, events with a large gathering can be a good way to promote offer offline.

With CPA - you got to let your affiliate manager know about it.
With Clickbank - I also let the merchant know about it.

I always make sure to let people know the flyer is an 'advertisement'. I have printed thousands of gaming/streaming movie offers and found a lot of people on Craigslist willing to help pass them out for a small price.

I'll post the results soon...

williamrs · 07-19-2010, 03:03 PM

I have never tried anything offline, but I do think that this method can work. However, make sure that you talk to your affiliate manager before you start printing your flyers, because some networks don't allow offline methods.

William

Lou Diamond · 07-19-2010, 04:32 PM

Hello,
I have been to many of these comic conventions and I am still going thru my goodie bags from years past.
Offline cpa can work but it is a heavy handed numbers game and it has to hit the right target audience in order for it to work.

TJComer02 · 07-19-2010, 07:18 PM

Offline is great, but.......It's way different than online. Stick with whatever you feel comfortable with. If you want to stay home, do online, if you don't mind getting out, at least for a month or so until you get enough cash to outsource, then do offline.

Kenster · 07-19-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kerron.a

Hi guys I was just wondering if it is possible to make a decent passive income from offline CPA marketing.

I've been thinking of creating and sending out some flyers promoting a couple CPA offers with url redirects to the offer page.

If anyone has been making some good money from this method please share you success story. Also which offers do you guys think convert well with this type of marketing.

Thanks
Kerron

Hi Kerron,

Offline DOES WORK

I was actually pulling pretty big numbers when I started and was doing offline flyering. That is actually how I got the capital to invest into my online marketing. I would literally go out on weekend and just go crazy delivering flyers.

WIth the high payout free trial offers, you can pull 4 figure weekends. I'm not going to lie, I worked my butt off and its a lot of work, manual work, but I was a starving entrepreneur with ambition and a work ethic and not afraid to bootstrap it.

Lots of potential, its a bit challenging to outsource, but hey if you are willing to do some good ol work, go for it!!

KC-Coop · 07-19-2010, 08:17 PM

Offline marketing definitely works. Make sure that you clear it with your networks first though.

If you are looking to build capital like Kenster said it can be a gold mine.

I've done a lot of stuff in local and small newspaper classified ads as well. It's a fun and interesting way to test and get some volume coming in.

Flyers could work as well - if you have anyone that you can pay on a revenue sharing basis to do it you may be able to outsource it. Otherwise they'd have no reason to actually deliver them since you can't see what they are doing. Unless they are just an honest hard working person (rare).

ChrisBa · 07-20-2010, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kerron.a

Hi guys I was just wondering if it is possible to make a decent passive income from offline CPA marketing.

I've been thinking of creating and sending out some flyers promoting a couple CPA offers with url redirects to the offer page.

If anyone has been making some good money from this method please share you success story. Also which offers do you guys think convert well with this type of marketing.

Thanks
Kerron

Yes, it works well

kerron.a · 07-20-2010, 07:05 AM

Wow, thanks for the many great positive responses guys! This is very encouraging as I am still a relitive newbie to CPA marketing.

One question, where would be a good source online to find trustworthy people in other states that will help promote the reach of my offers?

Kenster · 07-20-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kerron.a

Wow, thanks for the many great positive responses guys! This is very encouraging as I am still a relitive newbie to CPA marketing.

One question, where would be a good source online to find trustworthy people in other states that will help promote the reach of my offers?

My suggestion would be to do everything yourself at first. Optimize your campaign first and once its successful, THEN outsource.

I was able to scale an offline flyer campaign pretty big at one point, but it was a pain to manage everybody.

There is probably a better way to outsource though.

But the big thing is finding a system that works first before you scale!

Cash37 · 07-20-2010, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerron.a

Hi guys I was just wondering if it is possible to make a decent passive income from offline CPA marketing.

I've been thinking of creating and sending out some flyers promoting a couple CPA offers with url redirects to the offer page.

If anyone has been making some good money from this method please share you success story. Also which offers do you guys think convert well with this type of marketing.

Thanks
Kerron

When I was in college I flyered my campus with a scholarship offer.... it did well until some haters ripped all my signs down

Kenster · 07-20-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash37

When I was in college I flyered my campus with a scholarship offer.... it did well until some haters ripped all my signs down

THis happens all the time....college campus or in the public. Part of your "formula" needs to be calculating the costs associated with putting flyers back up and replacing them. Flyers dont last long in most places

affiliatelabs · 07-20-2010, 08:09 PM

I guess one needs to look into and decide what their time is worth first. Just like how you test offers online, one can test offers offline and see if they are getting return that is worth the time, money and effort.

Kenster · 07-21-2010, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by affiliatelabs

I guess one needs to look into and decide what their time is worth first. Just like how you test offers online, one can test offers offline and see if they are getting return that is worth the time, money and effort.

I mean if one has teh budget, it is actually a little "easier" to test out your campaign online and then bring offline..ie check out which titles/copy work best

I suppose its cheaper to go the other way and test offline first, but its 100x more work then slapping up a google adwords split test where you can see the results right away.

Offline marketing is work, there is no doubt about that. But, if you are new and broke like I was, its a good option to consider.

RyanEagle · 07-21-2010, 09:57 AM

Not scalable, to little reach, wayyy to little conversions. You'll make more money on fiverr writing on your forehead than with this.

PPC-Coach · 07-21-2010, 10:59 AM

If offline marketing is just old school marketing of online products. I think it has its place and the risk is much the same as doing paid traffic sources. The legwork is about a metric ton more though.

sean0909 · 07-21-2010, 01:35 PM

i put out about 150 flyers in a area and i did the math and about 70% of the people who got the flyer went to the website, its a good method.

kerron.a · 07-22-2010, 02:45 PM

Yea, I don't think flyer marketing is dead either. As many of you said it would not be easy, as compared to most online methods, but there is money to be made from doing so.

I think success comes down to the type of CPA offers that you select and type of people you are targeting for the offer.

Also i believe once you give people an offer of valuse they will be more inclined to visit your website to check them out. Currently i'm testing this out on an online college degree type CPA offer where visitors can get a free guide when they complete the the required form. Will keep you posted of my results.

Kenster · 07-22-2010, 08:32 PM

Like I said, you can do 4 figure weekends with just flyers.

HINT: I WASNT GOING TO SHARE THIS BUT...

come up with ways to maximize each flyer. Sounds simple but makes a ginormous difference.

if you are doing a free trial promotion, tell people to try ALL THREE of yoru options and then just pick the best one. You can literally double your results this way!

good luck all, lots of work but somebody got to do it..right!

kerron.a · 07-23-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

Like I said, you can do 4 figure weekends with just flyers.

HINT: I WASNT GOING TO SHARE THIS BUT...

come up with ways to maximize each flyer. Sounds simple but makes a ginormous difference.

if you are doing a free trial promotion, tell people to try ALL THREE of yoru options and then just pick the best one. You can literally double your results this way!

good luck all, lots of work but somebody got to do it..right!

Thanks for the advice Kenster

I just love how Ken can leave you valuable gold nuggets of information, without actually giving you the gold itself, if you know what i mean.

It really does make you begin to think of so many different ways you can put a twist on one simple method. Creativity is Key as Kenster always says.

I will certainly be rotating some rusty gears in my brain now. lol

blillard · 07-23-2010, 04:20 PM

I know of a guy who runs this booth in the malls. I went to meet with this guy to talk IM stuff. Being the curious observing gemini that I am, I was kind of able to see what this guy was doing. He's into cpa for sure he sets up these booths targeting the education, auto loans, and debt verticles. He would then hire two individuals to assist in gathering leads with little sign up flyers. One side is education and the other is debt and auto loans. Once you fill out the flyer and initial you have just gave him your lead and permission to imput your info. Now im wondering how he is able to piut all those leads in without the network getting suspicious, then I thought he could be using a static IP not sure though. but I know this HE IS MAKING BANK doing it, and all it is done offline. The slipped once and said that he sets these little booths up all over california, so just think about how much that is crazy. Although that's something I wouldn't do I like to keep things simple : )

Kenster · 07-24-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blillard

I know of a guy who runs this booth in the malls. I went to meet with this guy to talk IM stuff. Being the curious observing gemini that I am, I was kind of able to see what this guy was doing. He's into cpa for sure he sets up these booths targeting the education, auto loans, and debt verticles. He would then hire two individuals to assist in gathering leads with little sign up flyers. One side is education and the other is debt and auto loans. Once you fill out the flyer and initial you have just gave him your lead and permission to imput your info. Now im wondering how he is able to piut all those leads in without the network getting suspicious, then I thought he could be using a static IP not sure though. but I know this HE IS MAKING BANK doing it, and all it is done offline. The slipped once and said that he sets these little booths up all over california, so just think about how much that is crazy. Although that's something I wouldn't do I like to keep things simple : )

Yeah, I've heard of this and the potential is pretty huge.

My guess is that the network IS AWARE of it and he has special deals with them. Depending on the lead quality, the payout on the offers is probably different than the street payout.

I would even go a step further and say he probably doesnt even work with a network and works directly with the advertiser.

If you can get 20 leads per day per booth at $20 payout, that $400. Have 10 of these and that is $4,000 revenue per day. $2,000 a day in expenses such as hiring people, kiosk rental, etc, that is still $2,000 per day profit which is $730,000 per year. POWER OF NUMBERS BABY!

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Originally Posted by kerron.a

Thanks for the advice Kenster

I just love how Ken can leave you valuable gold nuggets of information, without actually giving you the gold itself, if you know what i mean.

It really does make you begin to think of so many different ways you can put a twist on one simple method. Creativity is Key as Kenster always says.

I will certainly be rotating some rusty gears in my brain now. lol

Yep, lube up your brain gears and spice up a method with a little creativity and you are good. All it takes is a very small creative twist to make a huge difference. There is still tons of space in CPA, I dont care what anybody says. Just gotta be a little creative!

Also, thanks for the kind words buddy!

Kenster · 07-25-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by believemarketing

this is one of those good threads...

Yep...and the great thing about it, is that flyer marketing is extremely simple. Unlike PPC where everybody has their tricks they dont want to share, flyer marketing is extremely straightforward and a level playing field for all.

Plus, offline marketing (especially flyer marketing) is much more localized. Sure you can outsource and scale to reach other localities, but its much less likely, and thus people are more willing to share what theyve done and how theyve done it!

Good luck all!

Aira Bongco · 07-25-2010, 08:55 PM

Offline marketing does work. It works extremely well for social gatherings or events. Just make sure that your offer is relevant to the people there. It also helps to talk and refer some products they can sign up for free. It will still pay off with your earnings and these are real leads that the company is actually interested in.

Cash37 · 07-25-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

Yeah, I've heard of this and the potential is pretty huge.

My guess is that the network IS AWARE of it and he has special deals with them. Depending on the lead quality, the payout on the offers is probably different than the street payout.

I would even go a step further and say he probably doesnt even work with a network and works directly with the advertiser.

If you can get 20 leads per day per booth at $20 payout, that $400. Have 10 of these and that is $4,000 revenue per day. $2,000 a day in expenses such as hiring people, kiosk rental, etc, that is still $2,000 per day profit which is $730,000 per year. POWER OF NUMBERS BABY!

My guess is he is selling the leads directly to one of the many lead buying firms out. Skipping the CPA networks has to be a must, I dont see how he could be as stupid as to sell a CPA network the leads when they are just going to flip them to the advertiser.

fushigi · 07-25-2010, 09:33 PM

@billiard, I've heard about this method (booth rental). Actually bought a wso on it about a year ago. I was never able to find a spot in a mall that would allow it without a long term contract and huge $$ upfront. Just curious, what kind of booth was he renting and do you know if he was he on a long term contract?

ricrodrigo · 07-26-2010, 01:41 AM

I am thinking of partnering with my younger brother about delivering flyers. He actually delivers newspapers daily sometimes with flyers on the weekend. This will be a cheaper alternative if you can contact your friend or the person who delivers paper on your area. He might give you a better deal than outsourcing to a stranger.

This kind of offline marketing is still effective. I've got a photography business and i got lots of clients through this method.
And as Ken said, if you are new and broke like he was, its a good option to consider.

Kenster · 07-26-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ricrodrigo

I am thinking of partnering with my younger brother about delivering flyers. He actually delivers newspapers daily sometimes with flyers on the weekend. This will be a cheaper alternative if you can contact your friend or the person who delivers paper on your area. He might give you a better deal than outsourcing to a stranger.

This kind of offline marketing is still effective. I've got a photography business and i got lots of clients through this method.
And as Ken said, if you are new and broke like he was, its a good option to consider.

As a caution, if your brother is delivering the flyer with the newspaper, there is a slight chance the newspaper company wont like that. They are paying to get their ads seen. Most likely they will never know, but just something I wanted you to be aware of.

Offline is simply traffic. If you can find a good offer for a particular traffic source (any traffic source) and be able to keep your costs low, you will certainly be able to make money.

Offline flyer traffic is not much different than online traffic. The only main differences (which are admittedly substantial) are that offline is generally harder to laser target and that the scale isnt even close to that online. With that said, 4 figure days are def within reach offline!

Cash37 · 07-26-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

As a caution, if your brother is delivering the flyer with the newspaper, there is a slight chance the newspaper company wont like that. They are paying to get their ads seen. Most likely they will never know, but just something I wanted you to be aware of.

100% right. When I was a teenager I worked for a pizza place passing out flyers and did this... let's just say I learned that it's against the law LOL

OnlineMarketingSys · 07-26-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash37

100% right. When I was a teenager I worked for a pizza place passing out flyers and did this... let's just say I learned that it's against the law LOL

Its probably unlikely that its against the law, but more against the companies policy. Short of soliciting without a permit, the most you could get would be fined (under $100).

kerron.a · 07-26-2010, 07:15 PM

Apart from Flyer marketing, do u think it is possible to get some conversions from placing an offline classified ad? I was considering trying this on the LA Times or New York Times as they have a high viewership capability, but i stopped dead in my tracks when i saw the $200 and $450 price tags to place an ad. lol

fushigi · 07-26-2010, 07:28 PM

you might want to target small community papers. You can get ads for about $10 and that way you can test your ad without wasting a lot of cash...

Kenster · 07-26-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kerron.a

Apart from Flyer marketing, do u think it is possible to get some conversions from placing an offline classified ad? I was considering trying this on the LA Times or New York Times as they have a high viewership capability, but i stopped dead in my tracks when i saw the $200 and $450 price tags to place an ad. lol

Hehe, yeah I would start smaller and do some optimization before you start dishing out more money for expensive ad placements. You can even do your optimization online using adwords or something to test which title and ad copy work the best.

Once you have at least a moderate comfort level with your ability to convert using the optimized copy, then migrate over to bigger badder and more expensive newspapers!

Everything is worth a shot right! Just be smart about taking the shot!

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Originally Posted by OnlineMarketingSys

Its probably unlikely that its against the law, but more against the companies policy. Short of soliciting without a permit, the most you could get would be fined (under $100).

Yep, its against the law normally, though I would suspect they would slap your wrist at first. It gets even stickier when you are dealing with mailboxes because that is federal property and the feds dont want to waste their time chasing down an affiliate marketing dope for promoting a CPA offer!

Be smart, I took a little more risk when I was newer and less mature (hard to believe I can get any less mature hehe

) but always use your head!

ricrodrigo · 07-29-2010, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ricrodrigo

I am thinking of partnering with my younger brother about delivering flyers. He actually delivers newspapers daily sometimes with flyers on the weekend. This will be a cheaper alternative if you can contact your friend or the person who delivers paper on your area. He might give you a better deal than outsourcing to a stranger.

This kind of offline marketing is still effective. I've got a photography business and i got lots of clients through this method.
And as Ken said, if you are new and broke like he was, its a good option to consider.

I'm very sorry about this post I made. I regret posting it. I never thought that this will be a big issue. I just login today after so busy with my kids(my wife out of town attending the funeral of her Dad).

I admit Kenster is definitely right. I have high respect for him. I actually bought his Rags to Riches Guide. It's one of the best ebook I've ever read. It helped me a lot with my campaigns especially with PPC. Thanks Ken for commenting on my post. Learning a lot from you.

Actually I've not started yet partnering with my brother regarding the flyers. Beside that, he lives far away from my place. I'll focus more on PPC and social marketing for now. But I might deliver some flyers myself & my wife cuz I regularly walk along my area as a regular exercise.

Kenster · 07-29-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ricrodrigo

I'm very sorry about this post I made. I regret posting it. I never thought that this will be a big issue. I just login today after so busy with my kids(my wife out of town attending the funeral of her Dad).

I admit Kenster is definitely right. I have high respect for him. I actually bought his Rags to Riches Guide. It's one of the best ebook I've ever read. It helped me a lot with my campaigns especially with PPC. Thanks Ken for commenting on my post. Learning a lot from you.

Actually I've not started yet partnering with my brother regarding the flyers. Beside that, he lives far away from my place. I'll focus more on PPC and social marketing for now. But I might deliver some flyers myself & my wife cuz I regularly walk along my area as a regular exercise.

Thanks for the great words my friend...of course let me know if you need anything.

Also be sure to check out other free marketing methods. I know you want to do PPC, so if you do decide to start with that path, make sure you mitigate your risks and start small. Dont underestimate other free methods though!

Kenster · 07-29-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpyreRamiz

It does work but need to get targeted people like for college you can promoted Education offers.. Near by hospitals promote health offers ETC....

Very good point. Just like promoting online, your goal should be targeting as best as possible so you maximize your results and use your time efficiently.

Dont take the easy route, take the route that will make you the most money. This means targeting as specifically as possible!

ricrodrigo · 07-29-2010, 10:02 PM

I live very close to the University belt so I think education offers is the best to promote in my area. 500 meters away is also a hospital. Thanks for the idea.

Kenster · 07-29-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ricrodrigo

I live very close to the University belt so I think education offers is the best to promote in my area. 500 meters away is also a hospital. Thanks for the idea.

I made a good deal of money promoting trial offers to college students in my area.

NETFLIX

joefazz9 · 08-24-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blillard

I know of a guy who runs this booth in the malls. I went to meet with this guy to talk IM stuff. Being the curious observing gemini that I am, I was kind of able to see what this guy was doing. He's into cpa for sure he sets up these booths targeting the education, auto loans, and debt verticles. He would then hire two individuals to assist in gathering leads with little sign up flyers. One side is education and the other is debt and auto loans. Once you fill out the flyer and initial you have just gave him your lead and permission to imput your info. Now im wondering how he is able to piut all those leads in without the network getting suspicious, then I thought he could be using a static IP not sure though. but I know this HE IS MAKING BANK doing it, and all it is done offline. The slipped once and said that he sets these little booths up all over california, so just think about how much that is crazy. Although that's something I wouldn't do I like to keep things simple : )

How awesome.

I would love to learn more information on this technique!

joefazz9 · 08-24-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

I made a good deal of money promoting trial offers to college students in my area.

NETFLIX

I also make a good income with scholarship ads and cognitive enhancers at campuses. How do you promote netflix? with flyers??

Kenster · 08-24-2010, 10:02 AM

I have done Netflix with college campuses with great success. In fact, I'm going to make a thread about it right now bring that the school year is startign soon!

~Ken

mtmark · 08-24-2010, 10:40 AM

Hi,

How can I make money promoting Netflix free trials (and similar)?

Thanks!

Kenster · 08-24-2010, 02:00 PM

Check out Netflix + College = Money

Its a great offer

mtmark · 08-25-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

Check out REMOVED DUE TO INSUFFICIENT POSTS

Its a great offer

Thanks Kenster. You seem very helpful.

jeffrey73 · 08-25-2010, 10:21 PM

Any marketing is GOOD marketing, as long as you have a good legit "brand" to back it up.

CPA offers? I'm not sure if it's worth the time and effort. But the kenster and other people have done it successfully, so I'm sure it works.

Kenster · 08-27-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey73

Any marketing is GOOD marketing, as long as you have a good legit "brand" to back it up.

CPA offers? I'm not sure if it's worth the time and effort. But the kenster and other people have done it successfully, so I'm sure it works.

Yep! I think its worth the time and effort? Many CPA offers pay well, convert great, and are easy and free to the consumer.

The trick with CPA and most online marketing is finding targeted traffic, is finding relevant traffic.

I dont care if you are promoting a debt CPA offer with a $500 payout or an email submit offer for pink President Obama stuffed animal, if you can find relevant and targeted traffic, you will make money. CPA offers convert very well compared to traditional CPS offers, the trick is the traffic!

tonio79 · 10-11-2010, 01:47 AM

Hi all
Based here in the UK and love this idea.
Completely removes the competition from adwords etc.

Where i am right now - Have chosen two popular CPA offers and made up some design for flyers. I have gone for double sided flyers so that i can put an offer on each side (hoping that some people will go for both offers) Gone for free trial offers paying approx £25 for each trial taken. Cost to person is about £6 for p+p

I already had a website name, so have just set up a redirect (dead easy to do) so that when people type in the website address i give them on the flyer they are taken straight to the offer page...so no web designing needed either...phew!

Just placed an order on eBay for 5000 A5 flyers to be printed. This cost £65 inc delivery. (is that about $100?)

Have found some leaflet delivery companies in my local area too. Found one that will deliver to the houses in my home town for £25 (approx $40??) per thousand flyers delivered. All source work done by email and website checking....so have still not spoken to anyone.

I suppose i could even get the flyers delivered straight to the leaflet delivery company and just transfer the funds.....but want to check the quality of the flyers etc. I also want to speak to the person in charge of the flyering.....because that is the bit that could make this whole thing flop if they just take your money and dump your flyers. Need them delivered!

So total costs involved if i get the delivery company to deliver ALL the flyers are...

£65 for 5000 flyers
£125 for delivery of all 5000 flyers (£25 per thousand delivered)

Tiny inclusions too.
£10 per year for website name
£6 per month for hosting

So for less than £200 (approx $300) i can get this campaign under way and will look to have the flyers delivered by the end of October 2010.

With each payout being £25 on the trial offers i need just 8 sign ups to break even.
Possible?....i'd like to think so!

Gets interesting when you dare to dream that you might get 20, 30 or maybe even 50 sign ups! £1250 for 50 sign ups from a £200 investment...how many times would you run that campaign in other towns...all across the UK and further?
And all done from making a flyer on my computer...no physical work at all on my part.

Of course...as the flyers aren't delivered yet....and no sign ups yet...i don't want to get ahead of myself. If anyone wants an update on how i got on then i am happy to do so...probably by end of November so i know that all flyers delivered and probably most of any sign ups would have happened by then i guess.

I haven't even had to tell any friends or family on this one...not even my girlfriend...would just love to suprise her with a little more cash coming in each month!!! Would be brill!.

Essentially the hard work is done in that of the flyer design (1 hour of fiddling around and getting it as good as i wanted....could be done in 10 mins i'm sure) , finding printing company on ebay (10 mins) and leaflet delivering company (40 mins worth of surfing and emailing).

So if it works then to repeat the process would take less than 15 mins!

Let me know if any updates wanted...i hope to be a smiling guy with a bit of extra cash......to re invest and build on this.....but one step at a time!

Thanks for reeeading...hope it was of interest for anyone wanting to do similar.

Tonio

07-19-2010, 12:04 PM	#1
kerron.a Where's The Rum Gone? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean Posts: 107 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Hi guys I was just wondering if it is possible to make a decent passive income from offline CPA marketing. I've been thinking of creating and sending out some flyers promoting a couple CPA offers with url redirects to the offer page. If anyone has been making some good money from this method please share you success story. Also which offers do you guys think convert well with this type of marketing. Thanks Kerron

07-19-2010, 12:11 PM	#2
excoder01 Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 616 Thanks: 19 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I was thinking of doing this with CPA offers...but with Comic Con coming up (gathering of 200K movie watchers/gamers/geeks)...I have printed of Clickbank gaming/movie products to promote and hire people to pass out.
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07-19-2010, 12:53 PM	#3
vikramd Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East Coast Posts: 320 Thanks: 59 Thanked 123 Times in 51 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Yes - this method works but the stuff drips in slowly so talk to your affiliate manager. Give them a head's up and tell them what you are doing - that way they understand where the traffic is coming from. The other day I saw a sign - "Stop Home Foreclosures NOW!" and it had an 888 number. I called the number (had a hunch here) and sure enough - it was just a voicemail telling me to go to 'blahblahstopforeclosuresvirginia.info'. Not sure why they didn't just list the URL on the ad though. But offline does work.

07-19-2010, 03:01 PM	#5
excoder01 Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 616 Thanks: 19 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Ya, the Comic Con thing is an experiment actually. There's no event that have 150K to 200K+ people in one area who are movie watchers, gamers, and anyone buying a high price for entertainment. So, events with a large gathering can be a good way to promote offer offline. With CPA - you got to let your affiliate manager know about it. With Clickbank - I also let the merchant know about it. I always make sure to let people know the flyer is an 'advertisement'. I have printed thousands of gaming/streaming movie offers and found a lot of people on Craigslist willing to help pass them out for a small price. I'll post the results soon...
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07-19-2010, 03:03 PM	#6
williamrs Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,496 Thanks: 174 Thanked 1,159 Times in 614 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I have never tried anything offline, but I do think that this method can work. However, make sure that you talk to your affiliate manager before you start printing your flyers, because some networks don't allow offline methods. William
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07-19-2010, 04:32 PM	#7
Lou Diamond Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Long Island N.Y. Posts: 1,164 Thanks: 29 Thanked 192 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Hello, I have been to many of these comic conventions and I am still going thru my goodie bags from years past. Offline cpa can work but it is a heavy handed numbers game and it has to hit the right target audience in order for it to work.
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07-19-2010, 07:18 PM	#8
TJComer02 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 280 Thanks: 33 Thanked 34 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Offline is great, but.......It's way different than online. Stick with whatever you feel comfortable with. If you want to stay home, do online, if you don't mind getting out, at least for a month or so until you get enough cash to outsource, then do offline.
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07-19-2010, 08:17 PM	#10
KC-Coop Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 523 Thanks: 2 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts Contact Info	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Offline marketing definitely works. Make sure that you clear it with your networks first though. If you are looking to build capital like Kenster said it can be a gold mine. I've done a lot of stuff in local and small newspaper classified ads as well. It's a fun and interesting way to test and get some volume coming in. Flyers could work as well - if you have anyone that you can pay on a revenue sharing basis to do it you may be able to outsource it. Otherwise they'd have no reason to actually deliver them since you can't see what they are doing. Unless they are just an honest hard working person (rare).

07-20-2010, 07:05 AM	#12
kerron.a Where's The Rum Gone? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean Posts: 107 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Wow, thanks for the many great positive responses guys! This is very encouraging as I am still a relitive newbie to CPA marketing. One question, where would be a good source online to find trustworthy people in other states that will help promote the reach of my offers?

07-20-2010, 08:09 PM	#16
affiliatelabs Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Washington D.C Posts: 49 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I guess one needs to look into and decide what their time is worth first. Just like how you test offers online, one can test offers offline and see if they are getting return that is worth the time, money and effort.

07-21-2010, 09:57 AM	#18
RyanEagle I'll Make You Rich Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 693 Thanks: 7 Thanked 94 Times in 76 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Not scalable, to little reach, wayyy to little conversions. You'll make more money on fiverr writing on your forehead than with this.
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07-21-2010, 10:59 AM	#19
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? If offline marketing is just old school marketing of online products. I think it has its place and the risk is much the same as doing paid traffic sources. The legwork is about a metric ton more though.

07-21-2010, 01:35 PM	#20
sean0909 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newtown Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? i put out about 150 flyers in a area and i did the math and about 70% of the people who got the flyer went to the website, its a good method.

07-22-2010, 02:45 PM	#21
kerron.a Where's The Rum Gone? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean Posts: 107 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Yea, I don't think flyer marketing is dead either. As many of you said it would not be easy, as compared to most online methods, but there is money to be made from doing so. I think success comes down to the type of CPA offers that you select and type of people you are targeting for the offer. Also i believe once you give people an offer of valuse they will be more inclined to visit your website to check them out. Currently i'm testing this out on an online college degree type CPA offer where visitors can get a free guide when they complete the the required form. Will keep you posted of my results.

07-22-2010, 08:32 PM	#22
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Like I said, you can do 4 figure weekends with just flyers. HINT: I WASNT GOING TO SHARE THIS BUT... come up with ways to maximize each flyer. Sounds simple but makes a ginormous difference. if you are doing a free trial promotion, tell people to try ALL THREE of yoru options and then just pick the best one. You can literally double your results this way! good luck all, lots of work but somebody got to do it..right!
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07-23-2010, 04:20 PM	#24
blillard Bryan Lillard War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 794 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 112 Thanked 115 Times in 88 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I know of a guy who runs this booth in the malls. I went to meet with this guy to talk IM stuff. Being the curious observing gemini that I am, I was kind of able to see what this guy was doing. He's into cpa for sure he sets up these booths targeting the education, auto loans, and debt verticles. He would then hire two individuals to assist in gathering leads with little sign up flyers. One side is education and the other is debt and auto loans. Once you fill out the flyer and initial you have just gave him your lead and permission to imput your info. Now im wondering how he is able to piut all those leads in without the network getting suspicious, then I thought he could be using a static IP not sure though. but I know this HE IS MAKING BANK doing it, and all it is done offline. The slipped once and said that he sets these little booths up all over california, so just think about how much that is crazy. Although that's something I wouldn't do I like to keep things simple : )
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07-25-2010, 08:55 PM	#27
Aira Bongco Your Go-To Writer War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In front of my laptop Posts: 620 Thanks: 55 Thanked 92 Times in 66 Posts Contact Info	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Offline marketing does work. It works extremely well for social gatherings or events. Just make sure that your offer is relevant to the people there. It also helps to talk and refer some products they can sign up for free. It will still pay off with your earnings and these are real leads that the company is actually interested in.
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07-25-2010, 09:33 PM	#29
fushigi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 120 Thanks: 88 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? @billiard, I've heard about this method (booth rental). Actually bought a wso on it about a year ago. I was never able to find a spot in a mall that would allow it without a long term contract and huge $$ upfront. Just curious, what kind of booth was he renting and do you know if he was he on a long term contract?

07-26-2010, 01:41 AM	#30
ricrodrigo Creative War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 41 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I am thinking of partnering with my younger brother about delivering flyers. He actually delivers newspapers daily sometimes with flyers on the weekend. This will be a cheaper alternative if you can contact your friend or the person who delivers paper on your area. He might give you a better deal than outsourcing to a stranger. This kind of offline marketing is still effective. I've got a photography business and i got lots of clients through this method. And as Ken said, if you are new and broke like he was, its a good option to consider.
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07-26-2010, 07:15 PM	#34
kerron.a Where's The Rum Gone? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean Posts: 107 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Apart from Flyer marketing, do u think it is possible to get some conversions from placing an offline classified ad? I was considering trying this on the LA Times or New York Times as they have a high viewership capability, but i stopped dead in my tracks when i saw the $200 and $450 price tags to place an ad. lol

07-26-2010, 07:28 PM	#35
fushigi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 120 Thanks: 88 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? you might want to target small community papers. You can get ads for about $10 and that way you can test your ad without wasting a lot of cash...

07-29-2010, 10:02 PM	#40
ricrodrigo Creative War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 41 Thanks: 13 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I live very close to the University belt so I think education offers is the best to promote in my area. 500 meters away is also a hospital. Thanks for the idea.
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08-24-2010, 10:02 AM	#44
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? I have done Netflix with college campuses with great success. In fact, I'm going to make a thread about it right now bring that the school year is startign soon! ~Ken
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08-24-2010, 10:40 AM	#45
mtmark Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Hi, How can I make money promoting Netflix free trials (and similar)? Thanks!

08-24-2010, 02:00 PM	#46
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Check out Netflix + College = Money Its a great offer
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08-25-2010, 10:21 PM	#48
jeffrey73 AdCopyAssault.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 1,249 Thanked 450 Times in 374 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Any marketing is GOOD marketing, as long as you have a good legit "brand" to back it up. CPA offers? I'm not sure if it's worth the time and effort. But the kenster and other people have done it successfully, so I'm sure it works.
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10-11-2010, 01:47 AM	#50
tonio79 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 136 Thanks: 2 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Offline Flyer Marketing for CPA offers - Any success stories? Hi all Based here in the UK and love this idea. Completely removes the competition from adwords etc. Where i am right now - Have chosen two popular CPA offers and made up some design for flyers. I have gone for double sided flyers so that i can put an offer on each side (hoping that some people will go for both offers) Gone for free trial offers paying approx £25 for each trial taken. Cost to person is about £6 for p+p I already had a website name, so have just set up a redirect (dead easy to do) so that when people type in the website address i give them on the flyer they are taken straight to the offer page...so no web designing needed either...phew! Just placed an order on eBay for 5000 A5 flyers to be printed. This cost £65 inc delivery. (is that about $100?) Have found some leaflet delivery companies in my local area too. Found one that will deliver to the houses in my home town for £25 (approx $40??) per thousand flyers delivered. All source work done by email and website checking....so have still not spoken to anyone. I suppose i could even get the flyers delivered straight to the leaflet delivery company and just transfer the funds.....but want to check the quality of the flyers etc. I also want to speak to the person in charge of the flyering.....because that is the bit that could make this whole thing flop if they just take your money and dump your flyers. Need them delivered! So total costs involved if i get the delivery company to deliver ALL the flyers are... £65 for 5000 flyers £125 for delivery of all 5000 flyers (£25 per thousand delivered) Tiny inclusions too. £10 per year for website name £6 per month for hosting So for less than £200 (approx $300) i can get this campaign under way and will look to have the flyers delivered by the end of October 2010. With each payout being £25 on the trial offers i need just 8 sign ups to break even. Possible?....i'd like to think so! Gets interesting when you dare to dream that you might get 20, 30 or maybe even 50 sign ups! £1250 for 50 sign ups from a £200 investment...how many times would you run that campaign in other towns...all across the UK and further? And all done from making a flyer on my computer...no physical work at all on my part. Of course...as the flyers aren't delivered yet....and no sign ups yet...i don't want to get ahead of myself. If anyone wants an update on how i got on then i am happy to do so...probably by end of November so i know that all flyers delivered and probably most of any sign ups would have happened by then i guess. I haven't even had to tell any friends or family on this one...not even my girlfriend...would just love to suprise her with a little more cash coming in each month!!! Would be brill!. Essentially the hard work is done in that of the flyer design (1 hour of fiddling around and getting it as good as i wanted....could be done in 10 mins i'm sure) , finding printing company on ebay (10 mins) and leaflet delivering company (40 mins worth of surfing and emailing). So if it works then to repeat the process would take less than 15 mins! Let me know if any updates wanted...i hope to be a smiling guy with a bit of extra cash......to re invest and build on this.....but one step at a time! Thanks for reeeading...hope it was of interest for anyone wanting to do similar. Tonio