Make money by creating email list

10 years ago

It's possible, but how are you going to capture those leads with without an optin page? unless you plan to email people without permission?

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cborgrx 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

It's possible, but how are you going to capture those leads with without an optin page? unless you plan to email people without permission?

It is possible to have your auto responder host the option page for you ( Get Response does), so yes you could do this without your own site, but as was clearly pointed out, why not do it the right way if you expect to be doing this for a long time and get your own site. Good Luck.
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VideosByIvy

10 years ago

Yes its possible,

But remember building a list means the opportunity to build relationships and trust. Then when you send out an offer you'll have no problem getting sales.

So hopefully you give useful free articles, information or advice too, not just spam spam...

hey <firstname> buy this product!,
see you in 101 other emails like this

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kris01

10 years ago

Originally Posted by VideosByIvy

Yes its possible,

But remember building a list means the opportunity to build relationships and trust. Then when you send out an offer you'll have no problem getting sales.

So hopefully you give useful free articles, information or advice too, not just spam spam...

hey <firstname> buy this product!,
see you in 101 other emails like this

Totally how it works for long term results

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Randall Magwood

10 years ago

Originally Posted by masterqif

...no websites, no seo, no paid advertising...

Man, what guru got their hands on you? Lol... Why would you want to run a legitimate long term internet business without your own website or promotion that will get you leads and eventually sales?

Baffles me. Stick with the plain old fashion approach discussed here on the forum. You'll live longer, and you'll make more money too.

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Trey Morgan

10 years ago

It is possible, but why exactly are you avoiding websites? How exactly are you going to build a list without having a website where they can opt in?

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rossle

10 years ago

Dear OP.

No website = no means to capture the lead

No SEO/paid advertising = no traffic

I think you may need to re-think your business model.

If you truly want to succeed in list building, I would begin by doing the following:

1. Create a squeeze page. Make sure the copy is compelling, and takes the visitor through this emotional flow - Attention - Interest - Desire - Action. Send paid traffic to the page, ie FB ads, PPC or PPV ads.
2. Provide tremendous value to your list. Too many people say "the money is in the list" Wrong. The money is in the "relationship" with the list. Inspire your list, have them drooling over your content, solve their problems. Then once that authority is established, you will make sales.

I'm struggling to see how you can achieve these goals with your current mindset. I may well be wrong, Who knows.

Best of luck, hope this helps.

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masterqif

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

It's possible, but how are you going to capture those leads with without an optin page? unless you plan to email people without permission?

Originally Posted by tvon

It is possible, but why exactly are you avoiding websites? How exactly are you going to build a list without having a website where they can opt in?

Originally Posted by rossle

No website = no means to capture the lead

No SEO/paid advertising = no traffic

What I meant by 'no website' is not to have a well-design website that I need to maintain periodically, like a blog or need to update from time to time. I'll create a squeeze page for opt-in. Sorry for confusing you guys, I actually differentiate the term of 'website' and 'squeeze page'. I have my own domain name, hosting account and mailchimp account.

What I meant by 'no seo, no paid' is that I would like to get opt-in from free traffics first. there a lots out there. I just started in building list, so I wanna start small.. please don't compare to you guys that have huge amount of money to do paid ads.. and please dont discourage me!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by masterqif

I have my own domain name, hosting account and mailchimp account.

The first two are good things that improve your chances.

The last one is a bad thing that reduces your chances. Read carefully ...
Free autoresponders
Mailchimp warnings.

Originally Posted by masterqif

What I meant by 'no seo, no paid' is that I would like to get opt-in from free traffics first.

There's nothing wrong with that. Many people with huge, thriving, growing internet marketing businesses use no paid traffic at all. Most people with huge, thriving, growing internet marketing businesses have far better traffic-sources than SEO, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398

Originally Posted by masterqif

I just started in building list

Read carefully the first two posts I linked to, just above. Follow their links. Re-consider carefully whether you want to switch autoresponders now, before you get going. The potential future opportunity cost to you, of having unwisely started with Mailchimp, is increasing with every subscriber you get (no, I'm not exaggerating!).

Regarding the general question you were asking: it makes far more sense to try to build a business with a squeeze-page and an autoresponder and no website than it does to try it the other way round (as so many people very unwisely do) with a website but without an opt-in, list, or autoresponder. You have most of this right (you've just chosen an unfortunate autoresponder, as you can see if you carefully read all the stuff linked to above). Good luck!

Originally Posted by rossle

No SEO/paid advertising = no traffic

This is just nonsense.

There are countless potential traffic-sources (including some very good ones) which have absolutely nothing to do with either SEO or paid advertising. Almost my entire business (from which I've now been making a full-time living for well over 5 years, while it continues consistently to grow) was built without SEO or paid advertising. I started off with almost no money at all. I didn't do any paid advertising at all until I'd earned many thousands, and I don't do any now; and if Google de-indexed all my websites tomorrow I estimate that it would take away only about 2-3% of my income. You get the message: I don't depend on SEO or paid traffic.

Don't listen to people who tell you that you necessarily need either search engine traffic or paid traffic: they're wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Stephen Wilkes 10 years ago

This is just nonsense.

There are countless potential traffic-sources (including some very good ones) which have absolutely nothing to do with either SEO or paid advertising. Almost my entire business (from which I've now been making a full-time living for well over 5 years, while it continues consistently to grow) was built without SEO or paid advertising. I started off with almost no money at all. I didn't do any paid advertising at all until I'd earned many thousands, and I don't do any now; and if Google de-indexed all my websites tomorrow I estimate that it would take away only about 2-3% of my income. You get the message: I don't depend on SEO or paid traffic.

Don't listen to people who tell you that you necessarily need either search engine traffic or paid traffic: they're wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Can you give examples of these of these unpaid sources of traffic my friend?
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- Alexa Smith Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Stephen Wilkes
  
  Can you give examples of these of these unpaid sources of traffic my friend?
  
  There's a large number of them discussed in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ffic-tips.html
  
  The one I use myself (because it's the best, most responsive, most profitable, best targeted kind of traffic I've ever had, in all my niches) is this one ("article marketing traffic"), on which almost my entire business was built and from which it continues to grow steadily, both actively and even passively.
  
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ej40

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

The first two are good things that improve your chances.

The last one is a bad thing that reduces your chances. Read carefully ...
Free autoresponders
Mailchimp warnings.

There's nothing wrong with that. Many people with huge, thriving, growing internet marketing businesses use no paid traffic at all. Most people with huge, thriving, growing internet marketing businesses have far better traffic-sources than SEO, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398

Read carefully the first two posts I linked to, just above. Follow their links. Re-consider carefully whether you want to switch autoresponders now, before you get going. The potential future opportunity cost to you, of having unwisely started with Mailchimp, is increasing with every subscriber you get (no, I'm not exaggerating!).

Regarding the general question you were asking: it makes far more sense to try to build a business with a squeeze-page and an autoresponder and no website than it does to try it the other way round (as so many people very unwisely do) with a website but without an opt-in, list, or autoresponder. You have most of this right (you've just chosen an unfortunate autoresponder, as you can see if you carefully read all the stuff linked to above). Good luck!

This is just nonsense.

There are countless potential traffic-sources (including some very good ones) which have absolutely nothing to do with either SEO or paid advertising. Almost my entire business (from which I've now been making a full-time living for well over 5 years, while it continues consistently to grow) was built without SEO or paid advertising. I started off with almost no money at all. I didn't do any paid advertising at all until I'd earned many thousands, and I don't do any now; and if Google de-indexed all my websites tomorrow I estimate that it would take away only about 2-3% of my income. You get the message: I don't depend on SEO or paid traffic.

Don't listen to people who tell you that you necessarily need either search engine traffic or paid traffic: they're wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Jeff Lenney

10 years ago

Of course, I make thousands per week (sometimes per day) with my various email lists.

Let me ask you a question - have you ever bought a PRODUCT based on an email you received?

I ask this question ALL the time on IM webinars I do and 100% say 'yes'

If you bought a product from an email, most likely an affiliate was getting that commission :-)

On another note, I make money from MANY different niches - via my EMAIL list. You can grow a list in just about ANY niche and make GOOD money from it

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Brent Stangel

10 years ago

Originally Posted by masterqif

Hi warriors,

I would like to know is this possible. Make money and grow your online business JUST by creating email list (in specific niche that we choose) and sending emails to the list periodically? - no websites, no seo, no paid advertising.

Is this possible?

Hope to hear your thoughts about this. thanks

Theoretically, yes.

It can be done but unless you get uncommonly lucky, it takes forever. And if you have any success at all you will quickly see that to make any real money you need at least some online real estate and investment.

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Kim Writes

10 years ago

To get that money you will first need to build trust. A website or something that represents you will help you build that trust, and also give you better ways to capture future leads.

Perhaps you don't want to deal with maintaining a website, I assume? Don't worry; your site doesn't need to be high maintenance. Put up the essential information as it becomes necessary, all while working on promotion and building that valuable relationship.

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cianci1129

10 years ago

Sounds like what you're referring to is very similar to what's called a "churn and burn" model. The email list is just one piece of the puzzle my friend. It needs to be used in conjunction with an effective sales funnel and authority blog at the very minimum.

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osamaye360

10 years ago

yes its very possible. but you have to have a product or service along the line you intend marketing to them. thats where affiliate marketing comes in or product creation.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by masterqif

Hi warriors,

I would like to know is this possible. Make money and grow your online business JUST by creating email list (in specific niche that we choose) and sending emails to the list periodically? - no websites, no seo, no paid advertising.

Is this possible?

Hope to hear your thoughts about this. thanks

Hi Masterqif,

I think it is quite difficult to make money only from lists, without a web-page. In order to make it legit, you could create a profile on websites such as Soloads.

But be careful! It can be quite tricky to build a responsive list without having a website or at least a squeeze page.
You could use Unbounce or other paid services to capture your leads and paid email service like Mailchimp, Aweber to send your broadcasts or promotional emails.

But as one would expect, there is a downside: if you don't know anything about your subscribers or leads (this is what a squeeze page or webpage are created for - to understand needs and behaviours) you can end up loosing your customers, leads etc and of course, your money!

A 5,000 leads list will decrease your budget with approximately 150$ in order to run the set-up described above without Advertisement costs.

I recommend you a more cost effective approach which will increase your chances of making serious money.

Good luck! Hope this post will help your endeavours to succeed!

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smaddoxjr

10 years ago

Anything is possible. Will you really like the results on a poor foundation? Build it and put the time in and you will love the rewards and outcome.

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objectiveman

10 years ago

You can do it without a site because some email marketing providers will host the opt in page for you. Only doing an email list though is leaving money on the table. Leave no stone unturned. Think of your business as the shape of a funnel. The front of the funnel could be composed of such things as a website, and email opt in page, a social media account, or even a book. The larger your funnel the more people you can scoop up with it.

You channel people into this funnel, the core channel being your email list. At the end of the funnel is where you have your highest upsells/largest clients. This may be in the form of a $1,000 per hour consulting fee or a $1,000+ product you sell. The more people you get into your funnel the more big money transactions you will make.

This is all assuming you are producing a product/service of value to people.

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