Clickbank Code

DotMK · 05-14-2009, 06:04 PM

Hi All,

Anyone puchased clickbank code? if so how have you found it, is the same recycled information, or worth purchasing...

i understand i was only launched yesterday or today..

Sam Kern · 05-14-2009, 10:13 PM

I am also keen on a review of clickbank code as i got so many emails from gurus promoting the product. But i would not be surprised if it is just a hyped product since there have been so many "Dominate Clickbank" products already on the market

WahbReview · 05-15-2009, 03:50 AM

I purchased it today.

Research - pick 5 or 6 products from clickbank and perform due diligence - market, keywords, traffic, demographics.

Adwords - start with $500 a day budget. Each keyword in own group. Send to landing page(s) on a mini site with enough unique content to avoid slap.

Tell a story to sell the product.

Track. Pick the winners. Expand to MSN and Yahoo.

Articles can be used for free traffic.

All been said before - and better (with examples and templates) - in products like commission blueprint and the like.

Comes in 4 modules - the clickbank code being the first and then 3 others for either 77 or 97 each.

Didn't purchase the other three after watching the first 28 videos!

The 2 bonus products have very nice, professional graphics and sales pages. Could easily modify them for ones own product.

Summary - not enough detail for newbies - nothing new for experienced - and the middle ground will still not commit to putting a budget of $500 a day into Adwords (I would guess).

P.S. Am writing this as I could not find one single real review of this product from anyone who actually watched the videos and read the PDF's.

The Great Gordino · 05-15-2009, 04:09 AM

wahbreveiw yours is the best review I have seen.
It does have a good sales page, but I wanted some opinion. Type it into google and all you get is the overused 'dont buy it (but really I mean buy it here)' tactic.

When I searched around this site though I got some very worrying views abotu MichaelJones - it's just a pen name, and also refunds from his previous products seemed to be not being sent.

This one is sold via clickbank so that doesnt seem a problem with this, but for the $77 there seems to be better stuff around at the moment.

Haydies · 05-15-2009, 04:42 AM

I am so glad I read this post. I was getting suckered in and started to wonder if 'this' was the product to finally help me. Glad I still have my $77

Thankyou

ranknfile · 05-15-2009, 05:56 AM

Thanks for the review. VERY much appreciated.

"Adwords - start with $500 a day budget. " - & this is for the newbie. What a joke.

RobertAxelsen · 05-15-2009, 08:35 AM

77$ puts it at the the top of it's price range, but you get a lot of value.

I just posted my review of The ClickBank Code here:
Clickbank Code Review | Information Product Reviews

NewDayDesigns · 05-15-2009, 08:41 AM

I'm in the process of writing a review/case study on my blog at "netknucklehead [dot] com".

Unfortunately, one of the main components of the course is still missing/unavailable, which is an Excel spreadsheet for doing CB product evaluation. I think it's still too early to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down.

Randal

Tom2009 · 05-15-2009, 08:42 AM

Uf.. when will they come with some really original idea..? Imean they use and re-use the same ideas, with different shapes...500$ per day with Adwords..well you could promote your own product with that money and make much much more...How come a newbie afford to invest 15k... all BS..

NewDayDesigns · 05-15-2009, 08:46 AM

I'm not trying to justify the course at all but the $500 figure is just one mentioned in the videos. Michael Jones isn't saying "you MUST spend $500 on PPC in order to make money". As everyone knows, you must be willing to spend *some* money in order to make money.

Randal

anitahd · 05-15-2009, 12:29 PM

I am with you Tom, spending and spending is not the right direction to go in. If you want to joint venture I will bring the taco shells. I will need 50 cents of that dollar though.
Anita

montero · 05-15-2009, 02:04 PM

tom42357

My dentist in Mexico told me that his wife's taco stand makes more than his dental practice!

montero · 05-15-2009, 02:06 PM

WahbReview:

What a genuinely helpful review! It's a model for reviews.

remodeler · 05-15-2009, 02:35 PM

I think that review by WahbReview sums it up pretty well.

AffiliateMax · 05-15-2009, 03:34 PM

Yes, good review Wahbreview. Sounds like pretty basic and obvious stuff, nothing new there.

People might want to read this thread too:
Has anyone tried "Cracking Adwords Code"?

ideasuniversity · 05-15-2009, 03:52 PM

Thanks for all the review. If I want to spend $500 on Adwords, I will just send it to Indian and outsource organic traffic for my site.

Fernando Veloso · 05-15-2009, 03:59 PM

Guys, may i ask something?

Instead of following the new products every week, why don't you choose to make some cash instead of spending it?

freedomtolive · 05-15-2009, 04:15 PM

Thank you WahbReview for an honest review. $500 day to test, what a joke. Seriously who has that amount of cash? It's not a code it's a gamble and an expensive one at that.

I too will removing myself from any copy and paste guru lists, I'm sick to the teeth of people promoting stuff just for a fast buck. Want me on your list? I need a reason. Seriously, I'm not just a cash cow for you list owners there has to be something to benefit me too, just ramming another pre sales email pitch down my throat isn't going to cut it.

It's about time people woke up and realised that the biggest commodity you can have as a marketer is trust.

WahbReview · 05-15-2009, 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Unfortunately, one of the main components of the course is still missing/unavailable, which is an Excel spreadsheet for doing CB product evaluation. I think it's still too early to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down.
[/QUOTE]

The spreadsheet is very nicely done. And _could_ be usefull.

Only prolem is that is makes assumptions...

1% purchase
3% of purchases refund

And the kicker...

It uses the the Google CPC/Position and Traffic stats to calculate if the product will (could) be profitable.

Using such things as a guide is fine - using such things as the definative go/no go is false.

The video's don't emphasis how "off" Google's own positional/CPC stats are - there will be lots of people in for a big surprise when they come to expect position 4-6 for a keyword at $0.25 and actually need to pay $0.75-1.25.

Qualifier - The above reflect my personal experience/opinion - just that, nothing more.

WahbReview · 05-15-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDayDesigns

I'm not trying to justify the course at all but the $500 figure is just one mentioned in the videos. Michael Jones isn't saying "you MUST spend $500 on PPC in order to make money". As everyone knows, you must be willing to spend *some* money in order to make money.

Randal

You are correct.

It has been said by several people that putting high daily limits makes google "belive" you are more serious and therefore give you extra room to manouver.

May be true, I have seen no evidence in any of my personal campaigns.

WahbReview · 05-15-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ideasuniversity

Thanks for all the review. If I want to spend $500 on Adwords, I will just send it to Indian and outsource organic traffic for my site.

You should do that - and document all the steps and all the results.

If it works (it will) - bundle it all up into a product - that would sell like crazy (and be usefull).

Joe Walter · 05-15-2009, 08:01 PM

thanks for the review, you have just saved me $77 !

LarryC · 05-15-2009, 08:37 PM

I expect a certain amount of hype in sales pages. But this one claims that, as a complete newbie, he just chose some Clickbank products, grabbed some "ugly" templates and put up some ads and made over $40,000 his first month. Sorry, this is just not believable.

templarjustice · 05-15-2009, 08:55 PM

$500 a day budget is ridiculous.
This means "Michael Jones" based on his business model spent:
1. Adwords spending = $15,000 for his first month
2. Sales Results = $45,000

So, for every $500 you spend, you should expect a 130% return.

Now, of course, you may say, well, you won't fully spend the whole $500/day & you can ramp up & ramp down & all that jazz. That's not the point, and technically, should not be done that way anyway.

Base on this model, Michael Jones had to have a high level of expenditures over an extended period of time (ie: 30 days) to achieve the $45,000. This is exactly why I asked everyone to take my Survey -- so you all would understand that these gurus are just blantantly throwing out all these high amount so money they are supposedly making, but can't back up what they actually spent or did to prove it.

I honestly think that if people throw out numbers they make, they need to fess up about how much they actually spent to honestly receive it.

And we don't even know if that model even works. What if he actually spent $44,000 to achieve $45,000. Would it be a difference?

templarjustice · 05-15-2009, 09:11 PM

Robert,

It's people like you who provide non-quality reviews that make absolutely no sense that gives this industry a bad name.

No effort or thought was put in to the 18 word sentence that makes absolutely no sense at all.
Everyone else here has provided something of substance, and you have provided what: $77 is top of it's price range? Are you serious? --You get a lot of value? WHAT!!

Did you even purchase the product & actually use it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertAxelsen

77$ puts it at the the top of it's price range, but you get a lot of value.

I just posted my review of The ClickBank Code here:
Clickbank Code Review | Information Product Reviews

drnet · 05-15-2009, 10:22 PM

One of the funny things is, he says he is a complete newbie to clickbank, but he has been marketing his whole career..I wonder if this was a blunder..

templarjustice · 05-15-2009, 10:41 PM

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Then, he also contradicts himself in the other videos, saying that he's been doing this for years. So if you put two & two together, the ONLY way he was even to make the $45,000 in one month was because he had EXTRA cash from all his other efforts -- And that's even if he really did it!

See, this is one reason I sent out this survey:

http://www.survs.com/survey?id=EGRXG...nel=2QKK3NV0SP
So that we can better understand where we are compared to everyone else.
And to finally realize the missing link. I have a feeling I already know what it is. Part of it is that people are just throwing out theory. They create a product based on unsubstatiated or half-ass facts.
Like, if 10 people bought it at $50, this site is now $500 per month.
Then they create some hyped up sales letter saying that something like:
"I make $50,000 per month with only a couple hours work!"
THIS IS THE STUFF THAT HAS TO STOP. Regardless of ramping it up, the key thing for US to know as consumer is, what did it costs to get the initial 10 customers behind the scenes.

What does everyone else think? I'd like to be challenged to see if I"m thinking wrong here......

Quote:

Originally Posted by sclark

One of the funny things is, he says he is a complete newbie to clickbank, but he has been marketing his whole career..I wonder if this was a blunder..

Azlan.MY · 05-15-2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Gordino

wahbreveiw yours is the best review I have seen.
It does have a good sales page, but I wanted some opinion. Type it into google and all you get is the overused 'dont buy it (but really I mean buy it here)' tactic.

That's because all those blogs or articles come from affiliates. They mean "Don't buy it somewhere else, but buy from my link".

Fernando Veloso · 05-16-2009, 03:12 AM

C'mon now, warriors know better than this.

If i come here saying i did 50K in 3 weeks, a Noob!!!!!

Do you believe me? Do you buy a 77$ ebook from me? Guess not.

So why do you buy from them?

We all (maybe not all but you get my point) know HOW to do it, we just don't have the time/money/balls.

Fernando

trail29 · 05-16-2009, 03:14 AM

$500 a day???!!! wow. i do'nt know about it. anyone actually get something form it/

Cathy Shelver · 05-16-2009, 05:19 AM

The problem is clickbank products are making IM seem like the most dishonest money grabbbing thing to hit the internet..... seriously i have bought 4 products off clickbank with the greatest sales letters but none have delivered this is not marketing or sales but lies GEEZ someone give me an honest product where you tell me hey "make $10 a day here is how but you might fail because you dont work hard enough".. and maybe i will buy it because its honest but please stop the LIES

elogin · 05-16-2009, 06:27 AM

when I heard "Michael Jones" saying that he didn't have a Clickbank account and just started a brandnew one - I found this statement rather suspicious. It sounded dubious to me.
And I am quite certain that I have heard his voice in other sales pitches before.
When I researched his name and products I decided not to buy as I got the impression something fishy is going on.... good decision!

dsorr · 05-16-2009, 08:22 AM

Whew! Thanks so much for the caveat! WF comes thru again.
Now off to my previously scheduled IM efforts...

Sharie

howdab2 · 05-16-2009, 10:25 AM

Thank you so much for the honest and in depth review,
and for saving me $77 as well

!

I had been considering buying it, but wanted to see a review
first... and not the sales page reviews that there seemed to be so many of..

I already own several products of the same nature,
and am not really intrested in buying another rehash of a clickbank + adwords/ppc tutorial...

Thanks again for the info!!!!

Howard

AffiliateMax · 05-16-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nashelver

this is not marketing or sales but lies GEEZ someone give me an honest product where you tell me hey "make $10 a day here is how but you might fail because you dont work hard enough".. and maybe i will buy it because its honest but please stop the LIES

I agree - I like this sales letter because it's not like all the others:
eBook Farming

In the above case I actually like the product too but in my opinion the few decent 'make money online' products are mostly not sold on clickbank.

Point is - as Fernando suggested - unless you want to learn about something specific (adwords for example) then we don't need any product. The basic concepts are the same - any 'how to' information can be found here or at a handful of other sites for free - and the most important thing is to make a plan and then just to go out there and do it: Eg: Choose a niche, research keywords, research products (if doing affiliate marketing) or adsense revenue potential (or both) build a site /blog, add quality, mostly unique, content, get backlinks, add more content, join affiliate networks (there is a world of products and services outside of clickbank!); add affiliate links and /or adsense, rinse and repeat. If you get stuck anywhere along the way - just ask in the forum.

Fernando Veloso · 05-16-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AffiliateMax

unless you want to learn about something specific (adwords for example) then we don't need any product. The basic concepts are the same - any 'how to' information can be found here or at a handful of other sites for free - and the most important thing is to make a plan and then just to go out there and do it: Eg: Choose a niche, research keywords, research products (if doing affiliate marketing) or adsense revenue potential (or both) build a site /blog, add quality, mostly unique, content, get backlinks, add more content, join affiliate networks (there is a world of products and services outside of clickbank!); add affiliate links and /or adsense, rinse and repeat. If you get stuck anywhere along the way - just ask in the forum.

Thank you!

Some people just choose to move from product to product and they forget to take action.

Now, how funny is that? heheheh

Marian · 05-16-2009, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso

Thank you!

Some people just choose to move from product to product and they forget to take action.

Now, how funny is that? heheheh

This is very true Fernando...

I'm just watching or better listening some of the tutorials Michael did... and found them useful. Sure, you can search the forums and internet for the stuff telling you basically the same things... but some people just prefer the things by watching... and included are many useful aspects of overall useful marketing/promoting.

I believe the money is not wasted here IF you apply the knowledge - like Fernando already said :-)

Marian

WahbReview · 05-16-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timgordon1970

1. It is served in a clear and simple way. just excellent.

2. $500/day. It's a lot, but at least he isn't selling you lies about $10/day that everyone else is. (From my experience you can do well with $150/day. with less it is difficult to test and improve).

3. "Nothing's new". The pieces maybe aren't all new, but the way he puts them together, and the discipline he teaches worth the $77 big time.

4. Many great marketing tips (not cb/adwords related), that are very smart and interesting (this is mainly what i learned from this course).

I am very interested in your opinion. Would it be possible for you to expand a little?

Specifically points 3 and 4.

What steps will you be implementing, regarding discipline, in your own campaigns as a result of the course material?

What marketing tips did you learn (or have reinforced) and how will these change your own marketing approach?

Genuinely intersted if you have time to respond.

P.S. I wholeheatedly agree with point no. 1. It is served in a clear simple way. But delivery does not make content - it can detract from the lack of it, which, for me personally, was the case here.

brand-all · 05-16-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richfellow

It's unfair to ask newbees to spend $500 a day on adwords-where do they get the funds?

Richfellow

Obviously your nic is a clear case of hopeful, positive thinking.

The key word in your sentence is 'ask'

No one forces us to spend any amount of money. Obviously there is a 'suggestion' that spending that amount of money is ONE way to place your adverts in a better position or get more hits through a bigger spend.

The reviews and comments in this thread have been very helpful over-all, and it's the posts from actual buyers/ users that we all look out for in this great forum.

Due Diligence starts here, on every product that is spat out of the IM masses. Thanks to everyone for the comments.

WahbReview · 05-17-2009, 02:31 PM

Per cb snooper - refund rate is currently 19.37%

templarjustice · 05-17-2009, 03:03 PM

What's CB Snooper? Can you point us to where we can verify that information? That's a very high refund rate isn't it?
How do they calculate refund rate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahbReview

Per cb snooper - refund rate is currently 19.37%

remodeler · 05-17-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahbReview

Per cb snooper - refund rate is currently 19.37%

I just checked that as well. That is plain awful.

AffiliateMax · 05-17-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahbReview

Per cb snooper - refund rate is currently 19.37%

Interesting - not heard of that site before.
( Clickbank Statistics Have Never Looked So Good - CBSnooper.com )

There are much higher refund rates than 19.37% on some products - some are over 50%.. Surprised that micronichefinder (which I think is one of the very few products on clickbank I would class as good) has a refund rate of 14% while others have zero.

Bear in mind that a lot of people do not know about clickbanks 60 day refund policy or just don't bother with a refund for whatever reason (or forget!) even though they may think the product is crap.

Some interesting figures (assuming they are accurate)
Bit sceptical about some of them though! (Too low)

Reverse Phone Detective. Refund Rate: 38.68%
Earth 4 Energy Refund Rate: 2.80%
FatLoss4Idiots Refund Rate: 0.00%
Truth About Abs Refund Rate: 58.14%
Commission Blueprint Refund Rate: 86.26% (ouch!)
Burn The Fat Refund Rate: 0.00%
Paid Surveys Etc Refund Rate: 51.97%
Get Google Ads Free! Refund Rate: 1.26% (come on - by common consent this product is garbage and yes, I have read it)
SaleHoo Refund Rate: 0.00%
Jamorama Refund Rate: 0.00%
Brad Callen's Affiliate Elite: Refund Rate: 97.40%
The Rich Jerk Refund Rate: 0.00%
Water4gas Refund Rate: 0.00%
Top secret fat loss secret Refund Rate: 45.23% (only 45%? sales page is worst load of complete garbage I have ever seen!)

Pinch of salt required for some of those I think!

Fernando Veloso · 05-17-2009, 06:00 PM

^^ There's no way a product can have a 0% refund rate. Not those products that exist for some time now.

Netafile · 05-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Those refund rates seem awful suspect to me.

Some at 0%, Comm Blue @ 86%? Google Free 1.26%? Aff elite 97%?

I don't believe it.

Netafile · 05-17-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by templarjustice

$500 a day budget is ridiculous.
This means "Michael Jones" based on his business model spent:
1. Adwords spending = $15,000 for his first month
2. Sales Results = $45,000

So, for every $500 you spend, you should expect a 130% return.

Now, of course, you may say, well, you won't fully spend the whole $500/day & you can ramp up & ramp down & all that jazz. That's not the point, and technically, should not be done that way anyway.

Base on this model, Michael Jones had to have a high level of expenditures over an extended period of time (ie: 30 days) to achieve the $45,000. This is exactly why I asked everyone to take my Survey -- so you all would understand that these gurus are just blantantly throwing out all these high amount so money they are supposedly making, but can't back up what they actually spent or did to prove it.

I honestly think that if people throw out numbers they make, they need to fess up about how much they actually spent to honestly receive it.

And we don't even know if that model even works. What if he actually spent $44,000 to achieve $45,000. Would it be a difference?

TemplarJustice: I took your survey - did you publish the results anywhere?
Would be curious to see results.

Thanks
Howard

bigdaddy · 05-17-2009, 08:10 PM

There is no way that the Google Ads For Free product doesn't have at least a 25% refund rate. It's one of the the few products that I got a refund for. Obviously the internet marketing products will have higher refund rates.

The consumers in other niches like weight loss, probably don't know about the refund policy and are probably used to diet products not doing what they claim to do.

Thanks for the info WahbReview. I will not be purchasing the product now as I know that there isn't any info that I don't already have. I already know about using landing pages to help lower your adwords costs.

The rest is basic internet marketing for some one studied on the subject.

xlfutur1 · 05-17-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahbReview

I purchased it today.

Research - pick 5 or 6 products from clickbank and perform due diligence - market, keywords, traffic, demographics.

Adwords - start with $500 a day budget. Each keyword in own group. Send to landing page(s) on a mini site with enough unique content to avoid slap.

Tell a story to sell the product.

Track. Pick the winners. Expand to MSN and Yahoo.

Articles can be used for free traffic.

All been said before - and better (with examples and templates) - in products like commission blueprint and the like.

Comes in 4 modules - the clickbank code being the first and then 3 others for either 77 or 97 each.

Didn't purchase the other three after watching the first 28 videos!

The 2 bonus products have very nice, professional graphics and sales pages. Could easily modify them for ones own product.

Summary - not enough detail for newbies - nothing new for experienced - and the middle ground will still not commit to putting a budget of $500 a day into Adwords (I would guess).

P.S. Am writing this as I could not find one single real review of this product from anyone who actually watched the videos and read the PDF's.

Thanks for the excellent synopsis. Its funny how when these people show how much they made in CB sales, they always fail to mention how much they actually SPENT to make those sales.

A $520 day on CB sounds alot different if you know they spent $500 to make that $520. All they show is the big numbers and alot of us fall for the same thing time after time.

I would so like to see a video that says " I made X amount of money NET after spending X to drive traffic to this offer." That's why these screen shots of CB earnings videos are so misleading. Who cares if you made $500 in one day if you spent the same amount on adwords. That's like saying you can make $0 money with my product if you follow my exact instructions. who would buy that? No one, and that's why the "expenses" are always left out of the sales letter videos.

Just my 2 cents and a beef I have had for along time with many of these product sales pages.

judeman · 05-18-2009, 06:58 AM

If I had $500 on me on any given day, I wouldn't NEED to be here trying to earn some hard cash!!!

Thanks for all the info though!

jerodrx · 05-18-2009, 02:51 PM

Rather than expense $500 on adwords i would better pay that
money to a good ghost writer to make me some quality articles.

This thread really represents of what is the Warrior Forum, simple
threads like this is what makes this forum awesome.

Thanks everyone.

05-14-2009, 06:04 PM	#1
DotMK Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Clickbank Code Hi All, Anyone puchased clickbank code? if so how have you found it, is the same recycled information, or worth purchasing... i understand i was only launched yesterday or today..

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05-15-2009, 03:50 AM	#3
WahbReview Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I purchased it today. Research - pick 5 or 6 products from clickbank and perform due diligence - market, keywords, traffic, demographics. Adwords - start with $500 a day budget. Each keyword in own group. Send to landing page(s) on a mini site with enough unique content to avoid slap. Tell a story to sell the product. Track. Pick the winners. Expand to MSN and Yahoo. Articles can be used for free traffic. All been said before - and better (with examples and templates) - in products like commission blueprint and the like. Comes in 4 modules - the clickbank code being the first and then 3 others for either 77 or 97 each. Didn't purchase the other three after watching the first 28 videos! The 2 bonus products have very nice, professional graphics and sales pages. Could easily modify them for ones own product. Summary - not enough detail for newbies - nothing new for experienced - and the middle ground will still not commit to putting a budget of $500 a day into Adwords (I would guess). P.S. Am writing this as I could not find one single real review of this product from anyone who actually watched the videos and read the PDF's.

05-15-2009, 04:09 AM	#4
The Great Gordino Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 96 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code wahbreveiw yours is the best review I have seen. It does have a good sales page, but I wanted some opinion. Type it into google and all you get is the overused 'dont buy it (but really I mean buy it here)' tactic. When I searched around this site though I got some very worrying views abotu MichaelJones - it's just a pen name, and also refunds from his previous products seemed to be not being sent. This one is sold via clickbank so that doesnt seem a problem with this, but for the $77 there seems to be better stuff around at the moment.
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05-15-2009, 05:56 AM	#6
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05-15-2009, 08:41 AM	#8
NewDayDesigns Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I'm in the process of writing a review/case study on my blog at "netknucklehead [dot] com". Unfortunately, one of the main components of the course is still missing/unavailable, which is an Excel spreadsheet for doing CB product evaluation. I think it's still too early to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. Randal

05-15-2009, 08:42 AM	#9
Tom2009 Banned War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 128 Thanks: 20 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code Uf.. when will they come with some really original idea..? Imean they use and re-use the same ideas, with different shapes...500$ per day with Adwords..well you could promote your own product with that money and make much much more...How come a newbie afford to invest 15k... all BS..

05-15-2009, 08:46 AM	#10
NewDayDesigns Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I'm not trying to justify the course at all but the $500 figure is just one mentioned in the videos. Michael Jones isn't saying "you MUST spend $500 on PPC in order to make money". As everyone knows, you must be willing to spend some money in order to make money. Randal

05-15-2009, 12:29 PM	#11
anitahd Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I am with you Tom, spending and spending is not the right direction to go in. If you want to joint venture I will bring the taco shells. I will need 50 cents of that dollar though. Anita
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05-15-2009, 02:04 PM	#12
montero Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: , , . Posts: 79 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code tom42357 My dentist in Mexico told me that his wife's taco stand makes more than his dental practice!

05-15-2009, 02:06 PM	#13
montero Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: , , . Posts: 79 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code WahbReview: What a genuinely helpful review! It's a model for reviews.

05-15-2009, 02:35 PM	#14
remodeler HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 216 Thanks: 47 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I think that review by WahbReview sums it up pretty well.

05-15-2009, 03:34 PM	#15
AffiliateMax HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland. Posts: 151 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 388 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts Social Networking	Re: Clickbank Code Yes, good review Wahbreview. Sounds like pretty basic and obvious stuff, nothing new there. People might want to read this thread too: Has anyone tried "Cracking Adwords Code"?
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05-15-2009, 03:52 PM	#16
ideasuniversity HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pretoria, South Africa Posts: 125 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code Thanks for all the review. If I want to spend $500 on Adwords, I will just send it to Indian and outsource organic traffic for my site.

05-15-2009, 03:59 PM	#17
Fernando Veloso Portuguese Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Good Old Europe Posts: 1,894 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 680 Thanked 339 Times in 230 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code Guys, may i ask something? Instead of following the new products every week, why don't you choose to make some cash instead of spending it?
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05-15-2009, 04:15 PM	#18
freedomtolive Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clickbank Code Thank you WahbReview for an honest review. $500 day to test, what a joke. Seriously who has that amount of cash? It's not a code it's a gamble and an expensive one at that. I too will removing myself from any copy and paste guru lists, I'm sick to the teeth of people promoting stuff just for a fast buck. Want me on your list? I need a reason. Seriously, I'm not just a cash cow for you list owners there has to be something to benefit me too, just ramming another pre sales email pitch down my throat isn't going to cut it. It's about time people woke up and realised that the biggest commodity you can have as a marketer is trust.

05-15-2009, 05:22 PM	#19
WahbReview Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code [QUOTE=Unfortunately, one of the main components of the course is still missing/unavailable, which is an Excel spreadsheet for doing CB product evaluation. I think it's still too early to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down. [/QUOTE] The spreadsheet is very nicely done. And _could_ be usefull. Only prolem is that is makes assumptions... 1% purchase 3% of purchases refund And the kicker... It uses the the Google CPC/Position and Traffic stats to calculate if the product will (could) be profitable. Using such things as a guide is fine - using such things as the definative go/no go is false. The video's don't emphasis how "off" Google's own positional/CPC stats are - there will be lots of people in for a big surprise when they come to expect position 4-6 for a keyword at $0.25 and actually need to pay $0.75-1.25. Qualifier - The above reflect my personal experience/opinion - just that, nothing more.

05-15-2009, 08:01 PM	#22
Joe Walter Super Duper Affiliate War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 390 Thanks: 121 Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking	Re: Clickbank Code thanks for the review, you have just saved me $77 !
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05-15-2009, 08:37 PM	#23
LarryC HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 254 Thanks: 31 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code I expect a certain amount of hype in sales pages. But this one claims that, as a complete newbie, he just chose some Clickbank products, grabbed some "ugly" templates and put up some ads and made over $40,000 his first month. Sorry, this is just not believable.
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05-15-2009, 08:55 PM	#24
templarjustice Advanced Internet Genius Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 73 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Clickbank Code $500 a day budget is ridiculous. This means "Michael Jones" based on his business model spent: 1. Adwords spending = $15,000 for his first month 2. Sales Results = $45,000 So, for every $500 you spend, you should expect a 130% return. Now, of course, you may say, well, you won't fully spend the whole $500/day & you can ramp up & ramp down & all that jazz. That's not the point, and technically, should not be done that way anyway. Base on this model, Michael Jones had to have a high level of expenditures over an extended period of time (ie: 30 days) to achieve the $45,000. This is exactly why I asked everyone to take my Survey -- so you all would understand that these gurus are just blantantly throwing out all these high amount so money they are supposedly making, but can't back up what they actually spent or did to prove it. I honestly think that if people throw out numbers they make, they need to fess up about how much they actually spent to honestly receive it. And we don't even know if that model even works. What if he actually spent $44,000 to achieve $45,000. Would it be a difference?

05-15-2009, 10:22 PM	#26
drnet Expert Trainer War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Auburn, Me. Posts: 886 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code One of the funny things is, he says he is a complete newbie to clickbank, but he has been marketing his whole career..I wonder if this was a blunder..
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05-16-2009, 03:12 AM	#29
Fernando Veloso Portuguese Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Good Old Europe Posts: 1,894 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 680 Thanked 339 Times in 230 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code C'mon now, warriors know better than this. If i come here saying i did 50K in 3 weeks, a Noob!!!!! Do you believe me? Do you buy a 77$ ebook from me? Guess not. So why do you buy from them? We all (maybe not all but you get my point) know HOW to do it, we just don't have the time/money/balls. Fernando
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05-16-2009, 03:14 AM	#30
trail29 trail29 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code $500 a day???!!! wow. i do'nt know about it. anyone actually get something form it/

05-16-2009, 05:19 AM	#31
Cathy Shelver HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 430 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 161 Thanked 74 Times in 52 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code The problem is clickbank products are making IM seem like the most dishonest money grabbbing thing to hit the internet..... seriously i have bought 4 products off clickbank with the greatest sales letters but none have delivered this is not marketing or sales but lies GEEZ someone give me an honest product where you tell me hey "make $10 a day here is how but you might fail because you dont work hard enough".. and maybe i will buy it because its honest but please stop the LIES

05-16-2009, 06:27 AM	#32
elogin Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code when I heard "Michael Jones" saying that he didn't have a Clickbank account and just started a brandnew one - I found this statement rather suspicious. It sounded dubious to me. And I am quite certain that I have heard his voice in other sales pitches before. When I researched his name and products I decided not to buy as I got the impression something fishy is going on.... good decision!
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05-16-2009, 08:22 AM	#33
dsorr Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 41 Thanks: 36 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code Whew! Thanks so much for the caveat! WF comes thru again. Now off to my previously scheduled IM efforts... Sharie

05-16-2009, 10:25 AM	#34
howdab2 Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clickbank Code Thank you so much for the honest and in depth review, and for saving me $77 as well ! I had been considering buying it, but wanted to see a review first... and not the sales page reviews that there seemed to be so many of.. I already own several products of the same nature, and am not really intrested in buying another rehash of a clickbank + adwords/ppc tutorial... Thanks again for the info!!!! Howard

05-17-2009, 02:31 PM	#40
WahbReview Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clickbank Code Per cb snooper - refund rate is currently 19.37%

05-17-2009, 06:00 PM	#44
Fernando Veloso Portuguese Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Good Old Europe Posts: 1,894 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 680 Thanked 339 Times in 230 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code ^^ There's no way a product can have a 0% refund rate. Not those products that exist for some time now.
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05-17-2009, 07:58 PM	#45
Netafile Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: , , USA. Posts: 58 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Clickbank Code Those refund rates seem awful suspect to me. Some at 0%, Comm Blue @ 86%? Google Free 1.26%? Aff elite 97%? I don't believe it.
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05-17-2009, 08:10 PM	#47
bigdaddy Jedi War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, USA. Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code There is no way that the Google Ads For Free product doesn't have at least a 25% refund rate. It's one of the the few products that I got a refund for. Obviously the internet marketing products will have higher refund rates. The consumers in other niches like weight loss, probably don't know about the refund policy and are probably used to diet products not doing what they claim to do. Thanks for the info WahbReview. I will not be purchasing the product now as I know that there isn't any info that I don't already have. I already know about using landing pages to help lower your adwords costs. The rest is basic internet marketing for some one studied on the subject.
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05-18-2009, 06:58 AM	#49
judeman Just Another Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43 Thanks: 26 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code If I had $500 on me on any given day, I wouldn't NEED to be here trying to earn some hard cash!!! Thanks for all the info though!
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05-18-2009, 02:51 PM	#50
jerodrx Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mexico Posts: 31 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Clickbank Code Rather than expense $500 on adwords i would better pay that money to a good ghost writer to make me some quality articles. This thread really represents of what is the Warrior Forum, simple threads like this is what makes this forum awesome. Thanks everyone.