You Can 'Fool' All Of The People All Of The Time...

I have a different perspective from you if you don't mind me saying.

Regardless of what you market, at the end of the day it is about providing value based on what people need and want.

Period.

Advertising and Marketing isn't about "fooling People."

It's all about finding out what People (really) want/desire/etc ... And then convincing/persuading them to purchase it

2C

As I pointed out, I would would rather it say 'persuade' or 'convince' or maybe 'impress over 'fool.' As for providing value, there are thousands of marketers on Facebook (not to mention here) offering the same thing. How do you cut through all of that noise? How about paid advertising?

And some of the people spend all of their time fooling themselves.

Well...fooling or lying to folks doesn't sit well with me I'd rather be genuine, honest and helpful. Better way to build business, and to sleep well at night while doing it.

Beautiful quote, but I think it mostly applies to early teenagers and youngsters in their 20s. I know many gullible individuals that believe everything they see or hear. I guess this will never change and this segment of the market will always be exploited for their naive nature.

Fooling people can't lead you to long-term results. Any lie will be discover in the future and result can make you a "fool"...

Seriously?


"Fooling all of the people" suggests that a marketer can convert every single lead into a sale; furthermore, he has to do it on every single campaign ("all of the time").


If you honestly believe that's possible, I think you're two sandwiches short of a picnic!



The very best salesmen and marketers have never done it - and no one on this forum can teach you how.


Steve

I think he was being a bit facetious with the quote, and simply pointing out the well-known gullibility of humanoids.

Who takes anything a marketer says, literately? If you do, you're just proving his point. :-)

The reading comprehension of some of you guys leaves something to be desired.

The first line of the post is "I love this quote, although I would rather it say 'persuade' or 'convince' or maybe 'impress over 'fool.'

Some of you are also missing the point. Yes, yes, we all love 'know, like and trust.' But when you have the 1,000 marketers trying to cultivate that impression how do you distinguish yourself from the crowd? Does paid advertising ring a bell?

But just to raise some more hackles, let me point out that the difference purported by the larger companies in their advertising is not exactly established gospel. 'Whiter than white' or '90% more effective' based on in-house analysis is not exactly something you want to bet the farm on.

Let me make the point again. If you got enough dough to advertise, A/B test and all the rest, you have a distinct advantage over your less affluent competitors.

It's a simple quote with a simple message and I don't quite grasp what makes it so contentious.

I've been saying this on this forum for six years.

Finding money to invest in advertising isn't nearly as hard as people think.

Give up your Starbucks every day and spend that money on ads. When you get rich, you can buy a Starbucks franchise.

Brent

I dont like to fool people not matter what because karma dont sleep i like to deliver value to people and then i wll buy again from me

True. However I wouldn't include that by "fooling" People.

If I pointed out to you that every poster on this forum would say the same thing, what would you call that?

I'm happy to keep this exchange going if it's so desired. No one is calling out the internet or affiliate marketing industry. No one is pointing fingers at anyone in particular although, if you've been around for a while, I'm sure you have a story or two to tell.

It was intended as an amusing quote that most people would acknowledge with a chuckle at or a elicit a knowing smile. Don't take it too seriously.

Give or provide people what they want? How? People even don't know what they want! They need to be "fooled" with their want. So this quote is perfectly saying it. Whatever words used, just a synonym to it. But certainly we can choose how we do our marketing. Positive or negative way. Both have their own karma. Thanks.

"The most important business skill is compassion."

If you actually believe this drivel you will be broke, forever.

The three most important things in business are knowledge, financing and tenacity.

Compassion is for social workers. Additionally, compassion isn't a skill. It's a character trait.

Fortunately, Jonathan - your unending stream of worthless claptrap is only visible to me when someone quotes you, which is all of the pain and suffering I can endure.

Whatever you may have posted - I DO NOT care. I have no respect for anything you say as it relates to Internet Marketing because all you can do is quote others, usually out of context.

You have no personal experience to convey to forum members as you have never done one thing in IM that you can point to as a success. Forget, success. You can't even point to something you have failed at, which would at least show some effort on your part. Nothing!!! My only hope is that you will be quoted, less often - unless it is done with the intent of heaping on the derision, which most of your posts are worthy of, because that's ALL they are worthy of.

How are those websites coming along that you are going to be launching in a couple of weeks? Of, course it's ALWAYS a couple of weeks from the last time you mentioned them. It has been a 'couple of weeks, for over two years. Are you devoid of any level of personal embarrassment??? Registering a domain name is NOT building a website. I maintain that I will be dead before they launch, even if I live to be 100 years old. We both know that they don't exist, regardless of your protestations relating to the facts.

What this place needs is an advanced forum 'ignore' function, so that your drivel remains hidden, even when you are quoted. Now THAT would be paradise. I'd pay good money, for that. lol

Now - you go right ahead and reply to this post, which will only illuminate to everyone that even though you know I can't see it, you are emotionally powerless to ever NOT get the last word in. Everyone is watching. You can prove me right or you can prove me wrong.

Remember what I asked about personal embarrassment. Have at it. lol

Like I said. POWERLESS! Ruled by your emotions. SAD!!

Thank you for validating my beliefs. I knew I could depend on you. lol

I originally posted 'Only fools are fooled, but deemed it necessary to reconsider, since being fooled also perhaps makes a fool....and many people have been victims.

In reflection of that, perhaps ongoing naivety is the product of a true fool.

I think it's important to consider everyone subjectively. The fact that everyone is different allows us to consider a scope demographic and fine tune our targetting.

This is an interesting perspective.

I really don't like the use of the word fool. It makes it sound like everyone is deceitful but some might be, not all though.

Imo we should be trying to connect people with what they want. Opposed to tricking them.

Giving people what they want is not what this about. It's about having enough money to invest in advertising in a big way.

Sometimes people don't know what they want. Sometimes they want things they don't need. Sometimes people spend large sums of money on vitamins and several recent reports say that vitamins are relatively useless.

Anybody been spending money on aspirin for the last 20 years because they were told it prevents heart attacks? Take a look at yesterday's headlines.

Sometimes it doesn't take much. Look at casinos. All the games are designed in such a way that even if you do win a lot of money sometimes, the house edge guarantees you will lose it all long-term (if you keep playing). Yet people constantly go broke in these places thanks to the belief that they can win big, and all it takes is some shiny lights and other types of glitz & glamour. The casinos don't even have to tell a lie, the patrons lie to themselves. This is true of all get-rich quick schemes too.