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Introducing myself...

by prodigaljoe
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My name is Joe. I have been marketing online for over 10 years. I got started with the "make money to surf" programs. It was such easy money. I starting making around 10k per month. That was such good money to me then and it really got me excited about internet marketing. Over the years I built many businesses online but I have always kept quite. I built many sites over the years. I found that creating honest sites that pulled repeat customers was by far the best business plan. Something I wish more people would do. In 2008 I sold some larger online properties and took a break. I eventually got bored and now I am back.

When I first started I spent too much time on discussion boards getting wrapped up in strange discussions. This was taking away from the businesses I had going so I would just browse the boards but I would not spend time posting. This time around I will be spending some time on the boards. Maybe I can show a few of you youngsters a few old school strategies

I poked around to see what I wanted to do and I found many "how to make money" guides posted everywhere. I checked a few out that promise automated money and secret 2.0 strategies to see what they were all about. I have to admit some of the tools and strategies are kind of cool but some of these guides are garbage and many are misleading. Like I said, I am old school. I like to do many things by hand. I did pick up a few sweet programs to help me out a bit but mostly I will be sticking to my ways.

For those of you who have bought some of the IM guides out there just remember one thing... Marketing is all about finding people who WANT something and you give them what they want. It is that simple.

Anyways I just wanted to introduce myself. I need I think 20 posts before I can contribute to this community by replying to other threads so I figured this should be at least one of my posts.

Joe
#introducing
  • Profile picture of the author C Faber
    Similar things that you say in your post did not quite add up such as "I've been marketing online for over 10 years""I started making $10,000 a month" but then you say when I first got started I pulled my head around and looked at 2.0 strategies.

    The thing is 2.0 strategies are not even close to 10 years old is a fairly new phrase in that fact.

    I'm sure you probably just got confused or perhaps I'm totally misunderstanding you. Can you please explain...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
      Originally Posted by C Faber View Post

      Similar things that you say in your post did not quite add up such as "I've been marketing online for over 10 years""I started making $10,000 a month" but then you say when I first got started I pulled my head around and looked at 2.0 strategies.

      The thing is 2.0 strategies are not even close to 10 years old is a fairly new phrase in that fact.

      I'm sure you probably just got confused or perhaps I'm totally misunderstanding you. Can you please explain...
      I think he is saying that he has read posts about 2.0 recently....since his return....not 10 years ago.

      Welcome to the forum. I look forward to hearing about some of your "old school" techniques. I think there was probably alot more honesty then.
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    • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
      Originally Posted by C Faber View Post

      Similar things that you say in your post did not quite add up such as "I've been marketing online for over 10 years""I started making $10,000 a month" but then you say when I first got started I pulled my head around and looked at 2.0 strategies.

      The thing is 2.0 strategies are not even close to 10 years old is a fairly new phrase in that fact.

      I'm sure you probably just got confused or perhaps I'm totally misunderstanding you. Can you please explain...


      Sorry I was not clear. That is after my 2 years off.

      Before my time off 2.0 was just a couple years old and really starting to make an impact but I never got involved.
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      • Profile picture of the author C Faber
        Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

        Sorry I was not clear. That is after my 2 years off.

        Before my time off 2.0 was just a couple years old and really starting to make an impact but I never got involved.
        I appreciate the clarification.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    Hope to see you around here
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    Welcome Joe!
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  • Profile picture of the author premiuminvestor
    Welcome Aboard!!!

    Will suggest you join THE WAR ROOM!!!

    That's the best place on WF!
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  • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
    Actually it was probably less honest in ways and more honest in others. For example, those "get paid to surf" companies promised to pay all kind of money but they did not have any money behind them like most online companies. Luckily I saw this in time. After receiving checks for maybe 6 months they stopped and all of the companies went bankrupt.

    The billing some companies were doing was insane and very shady. They would charge a small amount for something and you would end up with tons of crazy charges. I even remember people being tricked to download software and they would be disconnected from their Internet and reconnected through some payphone line. People were getting $1000 phone bills. The hidden charges still goes on with **** berry and other products but it is not as hidden or as widespread as then (speaking in terms of the percentage of internet users). Maybe I am just not as aware of it now. I don't know but the FTC seems to be doing a good job trying to clean up the net.
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    • Profile picture of the author C Faber
      Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

      "get paid to surf"
      I'm right there with you buddy I also for a short time got sucked into the paid to surf junk although I never received any payments from any of the services I experimented with they were a great way to understand others' business creativity.
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      • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
        Originally Posted by C Faber View Post

        I'm right there with you buddy I also for a short time got sucked into the paid to surf junk although I never received any payments from any of the services I experimented with they were a great way to understand others' business creativity.
        Yep. It was a good start. I remember getting involved selling guides to help people make money online. Back then that was such easy money. No one knew how to make money online. I think Jim from JimWorld had his own paid guides or it might have been someone else he promoted. My memory is a little fuzzy. Jim made a killing with those and so did I. It was not like today where everyone has to convince you they have some secret method and when everyone reads they roll their eyes and say "I already know that" then refund. Then it was all fresh to everyone. When you read a guide it was simple but you would never think of refunding something with so much new information. It was a gold mind.

        The money got better but much harder to make as more competition got online. I just had to work harder but I was almost always a step ahead and when I was a step behind I just made something better and got it in front of eyeballs first so people would come to me... biz 101
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        • Profile picture of the author C Faber
          Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

          I just had to work harder but I was almost always a step ahead and when I was a step behind I just made something better and got it in front of eyeballs first so people would come to me... biz 101
          So Why Did You Get Out Of the Game?
          Although the competition for selling make money reports is tough everything has shifted to helping and providing value to Fortune 500 companies, Law firms and until recently the medical industry.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
            He said he got bored with it all in his first post (I think)

            I did the same thing myself, had a very successful online biz then sold most of it early last year because I'd got fed up with it.

            I also came back though only part time

            Kim

            Originally Posted by C Faber View Post

            So Why Did You Get Out Of the Game?
            Although the competition for selling make money reports is tough everything has shifted to helping and providing value to Fortune 500 companies, Law firms and until recently the medical industry.
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          • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
            Originally Posted by C Faber View Post

            So Why Did You Get Out Of the Game?
            Although the competition for selling make money reports is tough everything has shifted to helping and providing value to Fortune 500 companies, Law firms and until recently the medical industry.
            The game of selling IM guides or taking 2 years off?

            I stopped selling IM guides and moved into other area where I used my knowledge to make a lot more money. Even though it was harder work it was worth the money.

            I took 2 years off after selling my main properties because I just wanted a break. I took time to travel, spend time with my family, and play in the stock market a little which is something I enjoy.
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  • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
    Why was my other thread deleted? I posted a screen shot to show I was not lying. I think it was a moderator who cleared up the confusion but then it disappeared. I wish you left that post up. It was a relevant conversation and I just got to clear things up with the people who were having doubts about me then it is gone.

    Was a rule broken somewhere?
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    • Profile picture of the author C Faber
      Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

      Was a rule broken somewhere?
      A little like Google the moderators don't necessarily tell you all of the rules. Be extremely overcautious with every post.
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      • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
        I have seen that when browsing here so I tried to be careful. I was just defending myself when a few started to attack me because I was talking about how deceiving so many of the IM guides are. I guess "newbies" need to be more careful. After taking 2 years off I am now a newbie again!
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    Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

    I need I think 20 posts before I can contribute to this community by replying to other threads so I figured this should be at least one of my posts.

    This is only happening to you... Other new members are able to hit the reply button and post to any thread in the Warrior Forum, except in the War Room...

    Done.
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    • Profile picture of the author C Faber
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      This is only happening to you... Other new members are able to hit the reply button and post to any thread in the Warrior Forum, except in the War Room...

      Done.
      What are you trying to say he's special? I'm special to at least that's what my teachers told me :/
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    • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
      tpw, This was cleared up in the other thread that was deleted. I was trying to reply in other sections of the board and that can't be done until I have a certain amount of posts. I just never tried replying in the general section. I assumed I could not reply anywhere. That is were the confusion was. Is that ok with you? You seem to be jumping all over me. relax.
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      • Profile picture of the author C Faber
        Originally Posted by GradingWebmasters View Post

        Is that ok with you? You seem to be jumping all over me. relax.
        Thanks for the great example of unwritten rules.

        As you will be able to notice people jump all over each other on this forum. One of the unwritten rules do not call people out on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author izapharry
    Hello joe,

    i thinks you have great experience i will surely contact whenever i need your help i hope you will never mind for that
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    • Profile picture of the author C Faber
      Originally Posted by izapharry View Post

      Hello joe,

      i thinks you have great experience i will surely contact whenever i need your help i hope you will never mind for that
      Is it because of his experience with paid to surf? lol just kidding but no for real because that's stuff is not around anymore. At least I hope it's not.
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  • Profile picture of the author mnonline
    Greeting 10k a month is a nice residual income there. It probably a 10 rough years for you As we can see that the more experience you have, the better you are at making money online. Not bad for all those years. You surely earned it my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author spennyc
    Welcome Joe... lots of good information here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geoff101
    Welcome to the best forum on IM. I would highly recommend you join the War Room. Tons of goodies there.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Welcome to the forum ... hope to see you around. Actually, I don't think you need 20 posts to reply to messages, unless something has changed.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Welcome, surely you have LOTS to share here
    and of course lots to learn.

    Look forward to learning from you and also
    teaching you some "new school" strategies,

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    • Profile picture of the author prodigaljoe
      Originally Posted by warriorkay View Post

      Welcome, surely you have LOTS to share here
      and of course lots to learn.

      Look forward to learning from you and also
      teaching you some "new school" strategies,

      Kingsley
      Yeah, I do have some things to learn. I learned a bunch of stuff when reviewing IM products for my site. Some of that stuff was new to me so it was probably more interesting to me than most which kept me from ripping too hard on some of the products.

      Although, I did notice that some of those products really get away from showing people marketing or the best ways to get traffic. They get too fancy. Which I guess would be normal because they are trying to sell something fancy and new but sometimes fancy and new does not work. I would rather see a solid boring IM strategy than a new fancy one that does not work. Some of the products are just about fancy ways to get traffic. Which sounds good but it is not always profitable. In the end it is all about profits flowing to you.

      Example would be the mobile phone guides. Some of those concentrate on paid traffic. These mobile guides are marketed to newbies promising them riches and easy money. I don't think any newbie is capable of making successful, profitable campaigns with paid traffic especially from general mobile traffic. It takes experience and testing to be able to convert that traffic with a good profit margin. Newbies will just flush money down the toilet.

      Anyways, I am excited to learn some new things and after a break I am ready to come back an have some fun building up a few businesses but I am starting light first
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      • Profile picture of the author proactive1
        Howdy Joe, nice to meet ya. Regarding posts, rules and such, just be yourself. They can't take that away from you. I had a post removed yesterday and the life of me, I don't know why. Maybe because I inserted an image of a chart that showed what people are actually buying these days. But I got over it, lol. Well take care, man and all the best.
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