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Unread 7th December 2010, 09:47 AM   #1
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**// Update 2/17/2011 \\**
I made well over $1,200 in January also. I worked less than one hour per day 5 days per week in January. I love affiliate marketing. The experience over the last few months has given me the confidence I needed.

I've been trying to imagine what could happen if I was able to work 8-10 hours per day for a few months on internet marketing...how much could I be making? Could I double or triple my income if I was able to have greater than 7x the time to focus on my websites?

Well, I'm about to find out...because I quit my job last Friday (February 11) and I'm sitting in my new office ($150/month) for the first time today. I'm excited and scared all at the same time. I'll be hitting it hard over the next few months to see how far I can take this.

The only reason I'm able to quit my job is because my wife and I have been working hard the last few years toward paying off all of our debt...and as of this month we are 100% debt free except for the house (1st mortgage).

I'm going all out for my dreams of working for myself and I won't have any more regrets. I'm also starting a site to help other noobs make money online and I'll be sharing my experiences as I go. All my information will of course be free. > noobstarter.com




**// Update 1/4/2011\\***


Month of December was even better for me. The holidays really cut down on my work time, I probably only got in around 15 hours and that was all broken up during the month. I'm expecting my income to drop over the next few months because I'm taking on 2 larger more generic keyword long term niches...and it's not Christma$ time. I'm also pinching out a few adsense niche blogs per month too.
-I started using textbroker.com a lot and really like them, super fast and the quality is good IMO.

-I launched an adsense site 6 weeks ago and on Dec 30 it hit #1 on google and has been making an average of $3 per day. The reason I'm there is because the competition is not optimized for the keywords and have low pr pages. I have 10 backlinks...searches look like this: 92,300 "keywords", 2,430 allintitle: "keywords". It's an exact match keyword.net It will probably bounce around, but I know it won't take many backlinks to make it stick. Seems a little too easy.

- I've also had the problem lately of finding too many niches I want to own. Looking for niches/keywords is like digging for gold and it's addictive. It's a daily fight for me not to waste time looking for more when I've got plenty of good ones to work on.

Here is a keyword I had my eye on but decided I have too much to do.
kinect games

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I’ve learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. I’m open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyone’s panties wet, but with the limited time I have it’s an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)



// Info about me:

- I don’t claim to be an expert or know any more than you, I’m a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. I’m simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can’t stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I’ve been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I’m lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- I’ve taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.


// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site’s back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didn’t exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: I’ve also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directories…so I didn’t do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. I’ve now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and I’m still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I haven’t added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks


// More info about my site:

It’s a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 – 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when they’re buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom


// Tools I’ve used

Google keyword tool – exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didn’t use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)


// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base


// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news

Search google for something I want/need

This post has some great info: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...e-markets.html


// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: “car seats”) rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. I’m guessing they might be labeled “thin affiliate sites”. I’ve been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn’t have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footer…I removed these a few weeks ago



// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.com….and then in mid October my site dropped and didn’t show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, that’s what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profiles…it’s now December 5th…my site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a “google filter”.

Sure I’ve cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because I’ve been watching my competition….the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since September…a freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)


// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkers…


// Some sites I’ve learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earned…$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com – Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthrei’s course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. He’s a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.


// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, I’ve wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but it’s the only time I have to work, it’s time to man up. I’m done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

>> I have "12 posts" and can't send any direct messages. <<

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Wow,,, It's a great step by step plan for starting newbies... hope you'll reach your goals with many sites..
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So much from Amazon?! Damn, it's great. Congrats dude.

Will bookmark this post, looks like really informative article.
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Eyetrap,

Thanks for that, it's very encouraging. When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?
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Thanks for that, it's very encouraging. When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?
nuvi265wtKEYWORD.com...(example: nuvi265wtMOUNT.com)
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When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?

If so you may want to be VERY careful in doing this OP...can lead to trouble when you use product names and company names in your domain names.

Otherwise....

Congrats on the success, shows what taking action can do!
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Thanks so much for the inspiring post. I've done something similar, only with 1 site and it's all targeting popular Christmas toys (it's a generic site name). I made about $7.00 last month from Amazon (better than the $0.40 I made the month before that). I'm seeing about 30 uniques per day. I started the site in mid-November and am posting about a 500 word review of a different toy each day. I then re-write that 500 word review and submit it to EZA. Once published on EZA I published the same exact article on GoArticles and Associated Content (seeing a decent amount of traffic from Associated Content). I than take that same article and publish it on free-press-release.com for $1.00 per article. I ping the site every week or so.

I'm slowly getting there. I'd like to top out December with a whopping $50 in sales, but we'll see. I got started way to late to really make any good money this Christmas. But, it's a learning curve and I hope to use what I learn this year and really bust it for next year!
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Thanks! Your money making story is one my favourites so far for these reasons:

  • You explain how your time was limited - work and family constraints rather than bags of free time - and you still made this work.
  • Intricate details of what you did without spilling the beans (obviously you don't want us to copy your exact product site that works so well)
  • Your post creates hope for other people that Amazon can work and can be made to work on a shoestring (both time and money!)
You have a site that makes $900 a month. In a month of two, you might be able to sell it for $9000. Let's say it was 100 hours work into this project - that ain't bad for your first project.

I've wasted a lot of time and made a lot less money on things, (a very slow starter ) but you've been very successful compared to the average IM-er.

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Excellent write-up.

This is pretty much what I've been doing as well. I'm also a newb and just published my first few sites within the last month.

I was very excited last week to see 7 sales in Amazon, even though I didn't make much money. It's very easy to bump your commission up above 4% for non-electronics. I have 3 or 4 sites that are pretty much completed. I have about 6 more that will be finished in the next week. I want to eventually have over 100 sites.

This site has taught me so much over the last few months it's unreal.
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It's always about trends, and noticing and targetting them.

The fact that you capitalised on this is what brought you success, and will continue to do so in the far far future

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Grow a pair

Nice writeup and congrats on your success. This is a good lesson for those with limited time... take action - use your time wisely.

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What a great story here. Congratz!

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that's very nice work from you, keep it up, just sacle it, eventually it will be 9300 per month
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What theme(s) are you using in Wordpress?

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Here's a handy tip...

You've been building sites hoping they have what it takes to stick. To remove the hit and miss and the cost of testing put up a Hubpage and do some very minimal and quick linking (say maybe 5 bookmarking links).

Then wait 1 week and see.

Spend 1 week making as many hubpages for different keywords that you can for keywords you think you can rank for. This is cheap, quick and easy. Don't worry about making the hubpages great, just use them to test demand.

After 1-3 weeks, check back and see which hubpages rank, and which hubpages don't, and which ones are getting traffic. Now you know EXACTLY what niches are the easy picking and you can invest in those niches first.

Simples

This saves you the cost of countless domain names testing different niches, and also saves you lots of link building when the niche might just be too competitive.

Also also those hubpages paid you through up are in your control and you can earn a little from them, and also link to other relevant pages helping you send visitors and SE juice to where you want it.

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I love reading these success stories, especially when they are broken down into tasks that any newbie on here could follow.

Hope you see these sites and more bring you a TON of income in 2011.

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Congrats! Talk about a motivating post :-)

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Iíve learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. Iím open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyoneís panties wet, but with the limited time I have itís an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)


// Info about me:

- I donít claim to be an expert or know any more than you, Iím a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. Iím simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I canít stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- Iíve been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if Iím lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- Iíve taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.


// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful siteís back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didnít exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: Iíve also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directoriesÖso I didnít do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. Iíve now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and Iím still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I havenít added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks


// More info about my site:

Itís a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 Ė 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when theyíre buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom


// Tools Iíve used

Google keyword tool Ė exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didnít use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)


// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base


// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news
Search google for something I want/need


// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: ďcar seatsĒ) rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. Iím guessing they might be labeled ďthin affiliate sitesĒ. Iíve been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didnít have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footerÖI removed these a few weeks ago



// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.comÖ.and then in mid October my site dropped and didnít show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, thatís what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profilesÖitís now December 5thÖmy site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a ďgoogle filterĒ.

Sure Iíve cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because Iíve been watching my competitionÖ.the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since SeptemberÖa freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)


// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkersÖ


// Some sites Iíve learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earnedÖ$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com Ė Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthreiís course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. Heís a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.


// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, Iíve wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but itís the only time I have to work, itís time to man up. Iím done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

>> I have "12 posts" and can't send any direct messages. <<
Wow! For only having 4 months of experience you've definitely impressed me. I think it took me about 1 1/2- 2 years before I had that light bulb moment and started doing what you're doing right now. Way to go!!!
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Wow. They key element here is that it seems you have really put in the time and effort...and now it is paying off! Good job!
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so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful siteís back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)
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As a very green newbie, this was amazingly encouraging. I'm in the process now of trying to learn how to do this. As mentioned, this is a well layed out post that does show some of the process of getting it setup and working. However for those of us that the whole world of IM is new to us, it's rather daunting and confusing. I'm going to use your post as a great reference document to study each part and learn what it means and how to do it.

If I was able to find $900 a month extra each month, that would make a world of difference for us. I'd be happy to have an extra $2-300 a month. <grin>

Thanks for sharing this with the forum. I appreciate the openness and information.
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- Iíve been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if Iím lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.
I remember those days. I remember making about $30 one month in IM when I had just started. Me and my wife were discussing our finances which were very tight at the time. I mentioned something along the lines of needing to spend more time on IM to increase what I was making. With exasperation she nearly shouted, "What the heck can we do with $30, we can't pay the mortgage with it?" Shortly after that IM started paying the mortgage.

Now she loves IM. I am home way more. I do more housework, watch the kids when she goes shopping, cook a few meals every week, and we just plain spend more time together. Now we talk about cutting back on time that we waste so that I can spend more time with IM.

My wife shops a lot, but she is very frugal. We both still watch what we spend very close. She usually pays the bills, and I keep track of where our money is. We also normally have money in the bank these days. Somehow we always have enough money to waste on clothes for her or toys for me.

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great job ,more than this...
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You've been building sites hoping they have what it takes to stick. To remove the hit and miss and the cost of testing put up a Hubpage and do some very minimal and quick linking (say maybe 5 bookmarking links).

Then wait 1 week and see.

Spend 1 week making as many hubpages for different keywords that you can for keywords you think you can rank for. This is cheap, quick and easy. Don't worry about making the hubpages great, just use them to test demand.

After 1-3 weeks, check back and see which hubpages rank, and which hubpages don't, and which ones are getting traffic. Now you know EXACTLY what niches are the easy picking and you can invest in those niches first.

Simples

This saves you the cost of countless domain names testing different niches, and also saves you lots of link building when the niche might just be too competitive.

Also also those hubpages paid you through up are in your control and you can earn a little from them, and also link to other relevant pages helping you send visitors and SE juice to where you want it.
Great advice! However, why not make it easier? Instead of writing a bunch of hubpages, etc; why not just find hubpages that are ALREADY ranking in google? Then just target those keywords. Whoops, just gave up one of my secrets!

Actually, your advice is excellent if you want to test out keywords that you are struggling to determine the competition level for. I just wanted to point out that you can find lots of keywords that already have hubpages ranking that you can quickly outrank.

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Do you have a specific way that you find products that are about to launch within 3-4 weeks?

Also do you use the product name when you buy a domain?
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Congratulations, one very inspiring and uplifting post. I'm glad to see that you made it, and that you felt by sharing you could maybe help others do the same.
More marketers should think as you do.
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Do you have a specific way that you find products that are about to launch within 3-4 weeks?

Also do you use the product name when you buy a domain?
I read tech blogs (techcrunch, gizmodo, etc.), I have purchased a few domains that the product is months away from launching. I have 2 domains ranking #1 without any back links because the product is not out yet and there are hardly any searches yet...but I know there will be soon.

You can use an existing product as your template for keywords and traffic. For example, the game diablo 3 is coming out soon...go lookup diablo 2 in google keyword tool and see what people are searching for.

I've used the product name in a few domain names. I see this done all the time.
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Dude - you have found a model that WORKS, congratulations!

I think that what you said up front is the most important stuff. Specifically, you hate your day job and your wife is making it hard to work on this gig on the side.

Here's what you need to do:
1) Hire someone to help you FULL TIME. Philippines is a great way to go. You are clearly making enough money to justify this and it is the only way to grow. You can focus on niche selection and "architecture" of your sites while you have a helper to write reviews, or at least format them and publish them if you write them. Plus he/she can handle all your backlinking / SEO stuff.

2) Discuss this with your wife to get an agreement on what is acceptable. She needs to understand how you feel about your day job and you need to agree on time together vs time on your business.

Outsourcing is your ONLY way to get more time and make more money.

Congrats again.
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What theme(s) are you using in Wordpress?
This really sounds like the wrong question to be asking. The theme is irrelevant. Don't get caught up in the details. Take frikkin' action.

(Lots of themes will do what he's describing, and anyone can custom code it for you for less than $100)
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Well I have reservations about using brand names and trademarked product names.

Do you use any such names in your domains or generic product names?

There is the risk of getting sued and/or losing your domain if you use trademarked product names.

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That's awesome that you are making that much from just 1 site!

You did a lot of hard work to get there - getting up early and working after your day job - those things are not easy to do and I imagine a lot of people fail because they dont want to give up that free time. Kudos to you for taking action and getting it done!

I hope your wife will be on board with your IM efforts after she see's that big paycheck from Amazon

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I don't think you can get sued. But I do think the copyright owner can come after you to take control of the domain.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone with more legal expertise. Are people taking any LEGAL risk in buying a domain with a copyrighted phrase like "nuvi"? Or is it simply BUSINESS risk. There is a huge difference, especially with technology products that fade away fast.
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Well I have reservations about using brand names and trademarked product names.

Do you use any such names in your domians or generic product names?

There is the risk of getting sued and/or losing your domain if you use trademarked product names.
This is something that you definitely must consider. You are risking the chance of receiving the good ol' "cease and desist" letter from the company.

Personally I would avoid picking up a domain with a trademarked product name in it...
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I like what I see. I will try some of the methods myself.
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And the company can ask you to turn over everything and take over your site. I know this happened to someone, now the company runs the site. Its a risk you have to weigh.

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And the company can ask you to turn over everything and take over your site. I know this happened to someone, now the company runs the site. Its a risk you have to weigh.
Yes I do have websites that make me good money that I built when I first started out that have the name of the product in the URL. So far I haven't had a problem, but I haven't bought a domain with a product name for awhile now.
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Great post and action plan. I printed your post and will read it over again.

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Wow! Thank you so much for sharing! I really struggle with Amazon. The commission is so low.

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Good on you Eyetrap. Obviously you are limited for time, but ambitious to get this going. You are doing great! Lots of knowledge, well done!

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This is certainly one of the best posts that I have come across in Warrior Forum in recent times. Even nicer to see it come from a newbie to the forum, and also not much experienced otherwise.

Keep up the great job, rinse and repeat. With the upcoming holidays, December should be a great month in Amazon, maybe the greatest month of the whole year.

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Iíve learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. Iím open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyoneís panties wet, but with the limited time I have itís an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)


// Info about me:

- I donít claim to be an expert or know any more than you, Iím a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. Iím simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I canít stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- Iíve been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if Iím lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- Iíve taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.


// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful siteís back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didnít exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: Iíve also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directoriesÖso I didnít do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. Iíve now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and Iím still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I havenít added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks


// More info about my site:

Itís a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 Ė 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when theyíre buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom


// Tools Iíve used

Google keyword tool Ė exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didnít use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)


// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

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Visitor Maps and Who's Online
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// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news
Search google for something I want/need


// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: ďcar seatsĒ) rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. Iím guessing they might be labeled ďthin affiliate sitesĒ. Iíve been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didnít have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footerÖI removed these a few weeks ago



// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.comÖ.and then in mid October my site dropped and didnít show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, thatís what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profilesÖitís now December 5thÖmy site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a ďgoogle filterĒ.

Sure Iíve cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because Iíve been watching my competitionÖ.the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since SeptemberÖa freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)


// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkersÖ


// Some sites Iíve learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earnedÖ$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com Ė Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthreiís course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. Heís a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.


// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, Iíve wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but itís the only time I have to work, itís time to man up. Iím done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

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Thanks for the info here. I am a noob and I am into Amazon products as well. I started barely a month in Amazon and I already got sale. I used the product name as my keyword and in my domain name. I got my site at the first page with 2 keywords while in the most competitive keyword, I am sitting at no. 12. I am doing a lot of backlinking the past few days in the hope of pushing it the first page. Post like this serves as my inspiration.

On the other hand, I tried promoting those products from gurus and I never made a single centavo because it's too competitive. It's only in Amazon that I find hope to make my IM journey a success.

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What a great post. This really is the reason why this forum is so great. Keep up the good work!
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Eyetrap, thank you for such a great post. I am really glad your making money online and now hopefully with your story a few more will be pushed to 'man up' and start earning online.

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Well done, and thanks for such an informative post. I'm impressed with you reaching $930 in November after only starting four months ago. Your dedication is very inspirational.
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Congratulations! You have done very well in such a short period of time. You obviously are dedicated and focused so I'm sure you will soon be quitting that fulltime job you hate!

Maybe do something special with your wife with your November earnings.....it might help your cause!

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Great job there, and thanks for sharing all the intricate details about how you got to this point. I think it's really admirable that you have managed to do this even with an unappreciative/demanding wife and only being able to put in 1-2 hours per day at most!

This just goes to show that when you want something badly enough, you'll find a way to do it somehow. To all the people complaining about not having enough time or motivation or money, this is a classic case study that will obliterate all your excuses. With only 1-2 hours per day and just using free traffic, Eyetrap was able to get to $900+ per month in only 4 months, and he only has 7 sites!

You did mention though that you hate your job with a passion, and this is what is really driving you to ultimate success with this internet venture of yours. You did not complain or falter when your first 6 sites didn't really go anywhere, and it looks like you have finally struck some gold with your 7th site! Most newbies would have given up after not seeing results with the first 1 or 2 sites, but you persevered and worked through it.

Now that you've discovered the power of exact match keyword domains, you should definitely start looking for additional ones to build more sites with. Follow the same formula that gave you results with your seventh site. I'd also recommend targeting products that are a little higher in price since amazon's commission rates are so low, and ideally you'd want to select products at the $100 price point or higher.

This is the plain unvarnished truth about internet marketing, and this is that you'll inevitably encounter failures especially in the beginning, and you need to want success badly enough to power past them. This is a really inspiring post, and most definitely required reading that will sober up every newbie with stars in their eyes!

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Just great work. I will investigate this immediately.

It is honestly interesting.

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