Mass Control 2 owners, read before using the 4day cash machine

[Tony M.]

Hi all,
Just wanted to share a little tactic that I stumbled upon which multiplied the results I had from my last use of the 4-day cash machine.

I'm a Mass Control 1 owner, and I've used the 4DCM a few times already.
(I don't know if you get the teleseminar calls included in your program but if you do, I get mentioned in the first call as one of the people who made more than the cost of the program in the very first 4 days, just using that promotion)

But the most powerful way to use the 4DCM, as I found out, is to *bundle* several of your products into the promotion.
Instead of running it with 1 of my products, I took 5 of my bestselling DVDs, and packaged them together, and THEN used the exact same promotion as Frank teaches.

That way, I was able to actually multiply the transaction size, so when I had all these sales, I sold actually for 5 times more $$$ than I would have by running the promotion on a single product.

So here it is, if you have more than 1 product you can use that strategy to make a lot of money really fast, the rest is just cut-and-paste from Frank's email swipe files.

Tony

PS : you'll make even more money if you actually add the promotion to your autoresponder follow-up instead of broadcasting it... because that way, the 4-day cash machine will be running day in and day out for you !

The way you do this is by sending people to 4 different pages as the sequence goes. This way, people see on the first page that there's, say, 900 units left and 1 bonus.
Page 2 (sent on day 2) says there's 467 units left and 2 bonuses.
and so on.
You won't ever get in trouble with this, I've used it for 2 years in a row now.

[PeteNY]

Cool idea Tony, thanks! I printed it out and stuck it into the 4 Day Cash Machine booklet.

[Tony M.]

By the way, as reminded by Jason Moffatt :
after you run the 4-day cash machine, don't take the pitch page down. Just leave it there for a while... or forever.
(but hide it from google)

[futuredan]

you'll make even more money if you actually add the promotion to your autoresponder follow-up instead of broadcasting it... because that way, the 4-day cash machine will be running day in and day out for you !

Good idea, but how do you work the 'dates scarcity' aspect of it like this?

[askloz]

heehe, I've been doing this for years, I have a auto-responder set up for 52 weeks straight. filled with 2 months of nothing but free information, ebooks, tips, videos, free products, you name it, then gently add a paid service of sorts, etc...

And you know what, you don't need a product to do this. You can do this by selling others products by giving them a commission rebate.

I absolutely kill it doing this, and yields over $30k a month on auto-pilot.

sure, little bit of work involved to talk with the buyers to arrange a commission rebate, ie, you keep 30-50% of it, and you give the rest back making the product cheaper for them... but this "little" bit of work helps grow the trust factor by bonding with your list, and the respect goes through the roof!

[Tony M.]

I'm pretty sure there's a way to automatize the commission rebate, or at least outsource it for cheap so you really are on autopilot.

[askloz]

you can't automate the commission if you have no control over the products. And yes, you can hire someone to take care of it, but who are you going to trust with YOUR paypal account, or bank account checks to rebate those who bought from your affiliate link? AND WHO is going to deal with these people on a personal one to one bonding relationship? There is no one better than yourself to handle these things, UNLESS the person who is helping you is truly passionate about relating and bonding with another person and their success.

Personally, I live by the moto:"If you want a job done properly, do it yourself".

[Tony M.]

Well, there is also a rule that "if you do it yourself, less of 'it' can be done."

I'd create a paypal account that i automatically send $500 or whatever everymonth, and hire someone to deal with these "hey send me the rebate" emails.
That way risk is strictly limited to $500 at all times.

It's really hard to think of scalable strategies when you're self-employed, and that's a problem I still struggle with at times, but it's a great way to go from self-employed to successful business owner.

There's just a limit to the number of one to one bonding relationships a single person can create.

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Tony M.

Well, there is also a rule that "if you do it yourself, less of 'it' can be done."

Who's rule? Certainly not mine, you haven't seen how much I can get done a day. I'm probably one of the fastest workers you'll ever come across.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

I'd create a paypal account that i automatically send $500 or whatever everymonth, and hire someone to deal with these "hey send me the rebate" emails.
That way risk is strictly limited to $500 at all times.

Dude, you can NOT automate commissions from someone else's product. If you read my post carefully, I said you can do the 4 day cash machine without owning your own product and promote someone elses.

There is NO WAY you can find out which email address they used to pay for the product. the buyer of the product has to contact you for the rebate.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

There's just a limit to the number of one to one bonding relationships a single person can create.

Sorry, that is nonsense. I have a HUGE list that I talk to every day via private email, phone, skype, & yahoo. It takes no more than an hour or two to speak to all those that send me a note.

Limits are only binded by ones limitation of thinking. Stop giving yourself excuses.

[Tony M.]

Originally Posted by askloz

Who's rule? Certainly not mine, you haven't seen how much I can get done a day. I'm probably one of the fastest workers you'll ever come across.

Well, there's still only one of you.
If there were two, twice as much would get done.

Originally Posted by askloz

Dude, you can NOT automate commissions from someone else's product. If you read my post carefully, I said you can do the 4 day cash machine without owning your own product and promote someone elses.

There is NO WAY you can find out which email address they used to pay for the product. the buyer of the product has to contact you for the rebate.

I said, you can hire someone to deal with these emails.
Of course you can't automate that.
But getting an email from someone who says "i want the rebate" and sending these people money through paypal is something you can hire somebody for like a buck an hour to do.
It might not be the best use of your time, except if you do extensive relationship-building stuff in your "here's your money" email, that you don't want to do elsewhere.

Originally Posted by askloz

Sorry, that is nonsense. I have a HUGE list that I talk to every day via private email, phone, skype, & yahoo. It takes no more than an hour or two to speak to all those that send me a note.

Limits are only binded by ones limitation of thinking. Stop giving yourself excuses.

I'll rephrase that.
*I* am not interested in making a million bonding one-on-one relationships.
Might explain why I see these limits.

Tony

[Charles Harper]

Originally Posted by askloz

heehe, I've been doing this for years, I have a auto-responder set up for 52 weeks straight. filled with 2 months of nothing but free information, ebooks, tips, videos, free products, you name it, then gently add a paid service of sorts, etc...

And you know what, you don't need a product to do this. You can do this by selling others products by giving them a commission rebate.

I absolutely kill it doing this, and yields over $30k a month on auto-pilot.

sure, little bit of work involved to talk with the buyers to arrange a commission rebate, ie, you keep 30-50% of it, and you give the rest back making the product cheaper for them... but this "little" bit of work helps grow the trust factor by bonding with your list, and the respect goes through the roof!

Excuse me, did you say this method gives you $30K per month?

I have been avoiding Mass Control, but if that is what you meant, I am going to get myself a copy of MC1.0

Charles

[Nathan Hangen]

I just got my package...now I just need to get around to making a product and getting that list lol...so far behind.

Actually, I have a product, but I was planning on doing a launch first...is there any way to combine 4DCM and PLF?

[Tony M.]

You should avoid "launching" your product with the 4 day cash machine. that would result in you making less money.

Just run your launch, make a boatload of money, and whenever the sales start to stall or go down, you run the 4 day cash machine.
Not the other way around.

[Nathan Hangen]

Originally Posted by Tony M.

You should avoid "launching" your product with the 4 day cash machine. that would result in you making less money.

Just run your launch, make a boatload of money, and whenever the sales start to stall or go down, you run the 4 day cash machine.
Not the other way around.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...well it was a nice ready anyway

[askloz]

Dude, this method that Frank teaches, is not new. It's an old skool marketing technique used to boost your bottom end line. I've been using this method for close to 9 years and used it and still do, to promote other people's products.

And Yes, it WORKS!

Earnings start off slow at first, depending in list size, you can buy leads from GetResponse, and take it from there - spend time with your customers, build a rapport with them, and they'll keep buying from you.

It took about 2 years or so to get to the $30k a month mark, not that I was spending full time on the thing, just a few moments here and there answering emails, and spent about 3-4 days setting up the 52 week auto responder and about 3 weeks finding products to promote. After that, it's generally a auto-pilot cash machine

Originally Posted by Charles Harper

Excuse me, did you say this method gives you $30K per month?

I have been avoiding Mass Control, but if that is what you meant, I am going to get myself a copy of MC1.0

Charles

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Tony M.

Well, there's still only one of you.
If there were two, twice as much would get done.

heehe, i agree, but I've tried splitting myself in half, cloning me self, but that didn't work, so I just found a way to work faster, one method was to know what I am doing inside out and to type faster, I type around 120-140 words per minute.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

I said, you can hire someone to deal with these emails.
Of course you can't automate that.

Like I said, now for the 3rd time, you're not reading my posts.

You can not hire a person who does not share the same enthusiasm as yourself, with the desire to help others succeed and what have you.

There's answering emails in a good customer support way, but there's another that involves more one on one empathy that will show them how to do the examples, and if need-be, hold their hand, and perhaps even do some start up examples for them to help them on their way... and that my friend is far more powerful than anything else out there, they'll be in debt to you for the rest of their lives.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

But getting an email from someone who says "i want the rebate" and sending these people money through paypal is something you can hire somebody for like a buck an hour to do.

Nope, it takes less than 120 seconds to do that yourself, and who are you going to trust with your paypal account with 10's of thousands of dollars in it? No one! And it's not worth the risk either.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

It might not be the best use of your time, except if you do extensive relationship-building stuff in your "here's your money" email, that you don't want to do elsewhere.

You and I are obviously not on the same page here. I come from a customer relationship background, since I was 13yrs old. I know for a fact one on one support with a customer will keep them coming back. I've tried hiring other people to take care of the things we all need to be taken care of... and as I said, you need to find people with the same passion as yourself, that is a very rare commodity.

And I can tell you, it is the best use of my time, for a start, i enjoy engaging with people and customers. I enjoy helping people. I wouldn't of toured the world if it wasn't for all the people I have met online. most of my customers have turned into very good friends.

Originally Posted by Tony M.

I'll rephrase that.
*I* am not interested in making a million bonding one-on-one relationships.
Might explain why I see these limits.

Tony

Ok, settle with the peanuts you're making now... glad someone can live on them.

Good luck.

[C.T.]

Originally Posted by Tony M.

Hi all,
Just wanted to share a little tactic that I stumbled upon which multiplied the results I had from my last use of the 4-day cash machine.

I'm a Mass Control 1 owner, and I've used the 4DCM a few times already.
(I don't know if you get the teleseminar calls included in your program but if you do, I get mentioned in the first call as one of the people who made more than the cost of the program in the very first 4 days, just using that promotion)

But the most powerful way to use the 4DCM, as I found out, is to *bundle* several of your products into the promotion.
Instead of running it with 1 of my products, I took 5 of my bestselling DVDs, and packaged them together, and THEN used the exact same promotion as Frank teaches.

That way, I was able to actually multiply the transaction size, so when I had all these sales, I sold actually for 5 times more $$$ than I would have by running the promotion on a single product.

So here it is, if you have more than 1 product you can use that strategy to make a lot of money really fast, the rest is just cut-and-paste from Frank's email swipe files.

Tony

PS : you'll make even more money if you actually add the promotion to your autoresponder follow-up instead of broadcasting it... because that way, the 4-day cash machine will be running day in and day out for you !

I ordered MC 2.0 as well and I never would have thought to automate it like that.

That's pretty frickin sweet dude, thanks for the tip!

[Tony M.]

Well that's because you live in a world of fear.
I don't believe people are out there to steal my money. I believe in good people.
And I've been very succesful with that mindset.

askloz, thanks for your contribution to the thread, but I'm not responding to personal attacks or insinuations, especially from someone who makes the same amount of "peanuts", or less, than I.

[source47]

This is great information! I am currently setting up a 4 Day Cash Machine for a service which I offer (instead of an info product). I will post the methods that I use and the results on that campaign probably on it's own thread.

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by Nathan Segal

This post seems weird. Frank clearly states in his material to use 5 products for bonuses, not just one.

This is a year old thread.

You guys are confusing this year's 4DC with last year's 4DC.

[KevinTorrence]

Another quickie addition to it is to add on a "Surprise!" 5th day on the sale.

Run the sale and set up the page as normal stating it's a 4 Day sale. But, go ahead and run a "grace period" broadcast to the list on day 5. Works pretty good ... even on my 'turn trash into jewelry and accessories" list.

Sometimes that extra unannounced 5th day brings in as much as the previous days combined. You get lots of "Oh my god! Thank you! I missed the first couple of days and I didn't think I was gonna get in on the sale!" kind of emails and the extra money to boot. :-)

[Tony M.]

People have asked how you could add the scarcity/urgency factor to the four day cash machine.


The way you do this is by sending people to 4 different pages as the sequence goes. This way, people see on the first page that there's, say, 900 units left and 1 bonus.
Page 2 (sent on day 2) says there's 467 units left and 2 bonuses.
and so on.
You won't ever get in trouble with this, I've used it for 2 years in a row now.

[alsunway]

Originally Posted by Tony M.

People have asked how you could add the scarcity/urgency factor to the four day cash machine.


The way you do this is by sending people to 4 different pages as the sequence goes. This way, people see on the first page that there's, say, 900 units left and 1 bonus.
Page 2 (sent on day 2) says there's 467 units left and 2 bonuses.
and so on.
You won't ever get in trouble with this, I've used it for 2 years in a row now.

Interesting idea. But if you have 4 emails which leads to 4 different sales pages, wouldn't your subscribers notice when they check back and click on the link in the previous emails?

[Tony M.]

Nope.

Because :
1. On April 13th I sent you a link to supercoolgift.php and I said :
"hey, this is a gift for you to thank you for being my subscriber"
And on April 14th I sent you a link to thisisevenbetter.html and I said :
"hey, check this out, I even added another bonus".

Therefore, it makes sense that the "old" page might be outdated.

and

2. Nobody is going to scratch their heads, think about it, sign up at a different date and time to your newsletter so they can see what is an autoresponder and what is not. Not a customer anyway.
What the customer will do, is go to page #1, compare it to page #2, and think to themselves "damn it ! this is for real, they sold half of the stock in 24 hours ! I gotta get in on this NOW !"

Tony

PS : of course, everyone gets all the bonuses, no matter when they bought.