Profile links for SEO

papra2012

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joekoffi

Hi everyone, just want to know if profile links still have any impact on SEO.
A lot has changed in recent times

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They do not work at all!

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patco 10 years ago

Originally Posted by papra2012

They do not work at all!

Sorry, but this is NOT true... First he didn't say WHAT type of a profile link is this. A profile in a forum, a profile in a page (a blog!), on a Social Bookmarking site, on a Social Media site...
And ALL of these are a backlink. The difference is the Backlink value all of them give to your website!
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mkgg

10 years ago

Not entirely true. Its still a backlink.

However, their value is very much reduced compared to in past

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high_plains_drifter

10 years ago

Don't waste your time or money

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Christos001

10 years ago

Does adding a backlink on a forum thread have any impact?

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MikeFriedman 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Christos001

Does adding a backlink on a forum thread have any impact?

Yes. It means that you are probably a spammer.
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- Christos001 10 years ago
  
  I noticed that some of my competitors have bought a backlink of their websites on the internet version of the phone book catalog. And they immediately saw their website rankings increase in Google results, although their content has remained the same, and is much inferior to the content of my own website.
  
  This made me wonder, how come Google lets catalog websites gain huge money from people to increase the ratings of their websites in Google?
  
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johnben1444

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joekoffi

Hi everyone, just want to know if profile links still have any impact on SEO.
A lot has changed in recent times

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Basically, worthless and a waste of your time..

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Most forum links are some of the weakest links you could possibly get as far as SEO.

Even If you found a higher established PR forum thread page it's most likely going to be paginated (multiple pages per forum thread) which means you'll be getting a PRn/a - PR0.

Profile pages? Your not even trying...

Relevant direct niche traffic is a whole other situation.

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Extreme web solutions

10 years ago

its depends upon which profile you link.it may increase your site traffic if your profile have large number of friends and followers,but according to seo prospective its just a back link

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netanel23

10 years ago

I just talked about this in another thread, forum profiles are a waste of time and will do more harm than good down the road.

Avoid forum profile links, they are meant for churn and burn sites and those using forum profiles for churn and burn are spamming tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of sites to get a quick boost to the top.

It is not a long term link building strategy.

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craighakwins

10 years ago

If it doesn't cost too much, go for it. But it doesn't help much now for increasing rankings. It kind of just diversifies your links. Not a huge priority. Actually not at all.

You don't have to go with profile links anymore though, there are far better options.

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ppscslv

10 years ago

Profile Links are very good and offers authority very quickly, especially when you're targeting 5-10 keywords. But there is a problem: in nowadays social profiles needs to be active (to have social activity), else you'll not get any authority for your targeted keywords.

I did that kind of experiments with social profiles on: Twitter, Facebook & Google+ landing pages, YouTube channels, Pinterest, LinkedIn, and other social profiles (& landing pages) built on high pr social websites.

Success!

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paulgl

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

Profile Links are very good and offers authority very quickly, especially when you're targeting 5-10 keywords. But there is a problem: in nowadays social profiles needs to be active (to have social activity), else you'll not get any authority for your targeted keywords.

I did that kind of experiments with social profiles on: Twitter, Facebook & Google+ landing pages, YouTube channels, Pinterest, LinkedIn, and other social profiles (& landing pages) built on high pr social websites.

Success!

Then I assume your experiments failed to detect the nofollow and other scripts that make most
of those "links" invisible....ditto for the rest of the _(edited)_ crowing about how great
"profile" links on social media.

Get a grip people. Authority? Keywords? Hello! McFly!

Join a targeted forum, be very active. The forum must be public and not use nofollow
or other script to hide links.

People think things that may garner some traffic and SEO are the same.
Just another clue why they fail at that "google" part.

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ppscslv

10 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

Then I assume your experiments failed to detect the nofollow and other scripts that make most
of those "links" invisible....ditto for the rest of the _(edited)_ crowing about how great
"profile" links on social media.

Paul

Unfortunately here are many experts in theory and myths, but not in practice

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Should I be interested if my backlinks are nofollow if these are ranking my links for targeted keywords? By the way, the difference between dofollow and nofollow are the same as having or not a meta description in your website. Most differences related to these examples tends to be null in nowadays.

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paulgl

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

Unfortunately here are many experts in theory and myths, but not in practice

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Should I be interested if my backlinks are nofollow if these are ranking my links for targeted keywords? By the way, the difference between dofollow and nofollow are the same as having or not a meta description in your website. Most differences related to these examples tends to be null in nowadays.

ROTFLMAO! You are an SEO-walking-disaster....pity if this gets deleted...
cuz people need to know what your "SEO" knowledge really is before
they join your 1000 happy customers.

You have no clue as to what nofollow is, nofollow does zero for SEO,
there is no such thing as dofollow, your meta description has zip to do with ranking....
and equating a nofollow with a meta description is just so out there...I keep asking,
what planet do you people live on?

Just when you think you've heard it all...

Null is a great word!

Paul

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ppscslv 10 years ago

Man, no offence, but I want to remind you that customers are interested by RESULTS, not by nofollow, dofollow, meta, web 2.0, etc.

Also I want te underline that you (and many others) didn't read my entire post, where I wrote that a link from a social profile offers authority if it has social activity: posts, followers, following, reshares, etc. Please read again my original post.

Have a great day, man...
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- paulgl 10 years ago
  
  Well, fake it 'till you make it, I suppose. You aint doin' SEO, that's for sure.
  
  1,000,000,000,000,000 flies just can't be wrong. Let's all eat cow dung.
  
  If your clients don't care about nofollow, then who is going to educate them?
  
  Again, the main social sites keep any links either nofollow, or behind a script
  making it invisible to a search engine(s).
  
  If you think a nofollow link passes authority, you don't know what nofollow
  is for.
  
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NShankar

10 years ago

Profile links does not have direct SEO value as earlier. However you can use them to dilute your anchor text ratio if it is done manually only in high quality and high pr sites or forums. If you build too many profile links it will attract penalty from google for sure. If at all you want to use them use them as tier 2 links and not directly to your money site.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by joekoffi

Hi everyone, just want to know if profile links still have any impact on SEO.

Yes, definitely.

A big impact: plenty of people have had their sites penalized (and I think some may even have had them deindexed), for using this type of backlinking. As you can see (both from what Google says so repeatedly and clearly and unambiguously, and from what marketers report about its outcome, when they've tried it), this is exactly the kind of "backlink-building" that Google's Penguin updates seem specifically to be designed to identify and penalize.

They call it "overoptimization", but that's just a long word for "stupid mass backlinks designed just to rank pages higher".

Originally Posted by joekoffi

A lot has changed in recent times

Yes, I think so: Google's gradually but consistently getting better and more accurate at identifying and penalizing people who build spammy backlinks designed to exploit their ranking algorithms.

We saw yet another example of this, quite recently, when they identified and penalized a service called "MyBlogGuest" and some of its users. It was predictable and not at all surprising to people who understood what the real purpose was, of that "service". Google increasingly knows when things are being done "primarily for ranking manipulation" and eventually catches up with them.

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Clint Butler

10 years ago

Originally Posted by high_plains_drifter

Don't waste your time or money

This should say "Don't waste your time or money on mass profile backlinks".

The fact of the matter is that being a part of conversation in forums can actually generate a lot of traffic to your website. As a side effect of being active is that your going to have your link in your forum profile. This is completely natural and expected.

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Yes. It means that you are probably a spammer.

This is just another generalization by someone who doesn't want to take the time to teach people the right way to do things.

All link types still work and they work very well.

Article marketing, guest posts, blog comments, profile links, and forum signature links all work when done in the natural course of promoting your website.

It irresponsible to teach or offer advice that writes off a promotional link building method just because mass automated link building in that way is no longer as effective as it was.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

We saw yet another example of this, quite recently, when they identified and penalized a service called "MyBlogGuest" and some of its users. It was predictable and not at all surprising to people who understood what the real purpose was, of that "service". Google increasingly knows when things are being done "primarily for ranking manipulation" and eventually catches up with them.

MyBlogGuest was originally supposed to be a website were members of a community could get together and work out a guest post that would provide websites with content while allowing the writer to build their reach.

As typical with anything else some so called "seo's" just took their methods of spamming article directories and called it "guest blogging". Google isn't stupid and just because you rename a pig to dog doesn't make it any less a pig.

My point in all of my comments is that everything still works as long as its being done in a way that is natural in the course of your promotion cycle for the content you write. Turn your attention away from mass profile links and create profile links in a select number of active forums thus building your reputation in the forum and the ranking value of your profile link.

Hope that helps

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Mike Anthony

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Clint Butler

The fact of the matter is that being a part of conversation in forums can actually generate a lot of traffic to your website. As a side effect of being active is that your going to have your link in your forum profile. This is completely natural and expected.

This is just another generalization by someone who doesn't want to take the time to teach people the right way to do things.

Clint You might want to know what you are talking about and read the OP before you accuse a well respected moderator on this forum of not wanting to take the time to teach people the right way to do things. Mike has more post teaching people that did not get thanks than you have thanks.

the OP asked

Hi everyone, just want to know if profile links still have any impact on SEO

Traffic has nothing to do with the question its - impact on SEO. Further it is conventional when someone says profile links without specifying forum profile link that they mean more than forum signatures. As it is any natural promotion using forum profiles will have next to no impact on SEO since most forum sigs are no follow and if you happen to be using all no follow forums its probably because its not natural at all.

Article marketing, guest posts, blog comments, profile links, and forum signature links all work when done in the natural course of promoting you

if done "naturally" there will not be enough to make much of a difference to SEO and again the OP mentioned nothing about "in the natural course of promoting" its an question about SEO impact using profile links.

All link types still work and they work very well

nonsense traditionally profile links were of the angela backlink variety and theres no way anyone can say now they work very well especially not if its done "naturally" as you allege with only a few profile links. You are blowing smoke.

create profile links in a select number of active forums thus building your reputation in the forum and the ranking value of your profile link.

Again most active forums with enough traffic to mean anything are nofollowed and the question is about SEO impact not about reputation in a forum.

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Mike Anthony

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joekoffi

Hi everyone, just want to know if profile links still have any impact on SEO.

For rankings no for SEO WSO providers yes.

You can still use a few for the same reason you might put on a vinyl record if you are old enough - nostalgia (ah the good old days when you could push a button and rank)

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ppscslv

10 years ago

It seems you have some personal problems... I require a moderator assistance to end this unproductive discussion!

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nettiapina 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

I require a moderator assistance to end this unproductive discussion!

Just stop the discussion, then! Paulgl is perhaps being a bit blunt with you, but he's not the one who's confused here. What you're doing is not SEO, but some sort of weird traffic scheme that you can't really explain in a way that makes any sense. As far as anyone has shown Google doesn't rate or rank social media activity unless it's their own properties, and even then it might not help you any.

The meta description comment really doesn't do you any favours either.

There's probably a social media service that has valuable profile links. Google+ might even have a followed link there somewhere! However, most of the services you list are hard for search engine to index, and nofollow all the way as they should be.

Claim "SEO" in your sig, and you can't go around spouting nonsense. In my not-so-humble opinion.
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ppscslv

10 years ago

Yeah, man... In theory many are experts, but when they fail in practice, then small details are searched as excuses, bla, bla, bla.

Many SEO gurus are really believing that the dofollow backlinks created with GSA SER, Senuke Xcr, Ultimate Demon, Xrumer, Scrapebox and many other SEO softwares will offer great benefits to their money sites, but... after a few months: BUMMM, a Penguin update is hitting and all low PR dofollow backlinks needs to be removed because a strange message about unnatural links just arrived in the Webmaster Tools.

I tried in the past that kind of SEO (Back Hat) softwares, but without success (many options/settings from Senuke XCr, GSA SER & Scrapebox are still fresh in my memory). Don't you think it's strange that Senuke XCr or GSA SER can't create profiles on social websites like Twitter, Facebook, Google+, Pinterest, and other high PR social websites?

Of course, some people will say that the reason is: because there are nofollow links

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nettiapina

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

Yeah, man... In theory many are experts, but when they fail in practice, then small details are searched as excuses, bla, bla, bla.

You're trying to shift the focus to some straw man, talk about a technology that doesn't really matter to the discussion, and provide an anecdote that's got very little to do with the topic. Wether or not GSA can create profiles to social media sites is simply irrelevant to this discussion.

If you make a blunder in a comment, admit it and own it. We're not to blame for whatever you write here.

Simply put, I want to know what's the proposed mechanism for your profile link stuff to work. There can't be any magical thinking along the lines of "well Google does this activity rating thing even if they publicly deny it and there's no good evidence". Basic principles of SEO are simple enough. Just a nofollow link on a sub page with no links from any pages with authority? Fair enough, but not an effective SEO strategy.

I'm not opposing nofollow links or profile links per se. Just the claims beyond that point.

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ppscslv

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

[...] Simply put, I want to know what's the proposed mechanism for your profile link stuff to work. There can't be any magical thinking along the lines of "well Google does this activity rating thing even if they publicly deny it and there's no good evidence". Basic principles of SEO are simple enough. Just a nofollow link on a sub page with no links from any pages with authority? Fair enough, but not an effective SEO strategy.

I'm not opposing nofollow links or profile links per se. Just the claims beyond that point.

OMG... It's second time when I repeat: read my original post here about profile links (these profiles needs to be active to get authority, and I'm not talking about low PR forum profiles, I wrote about social profiles and landing pages from PR10-PR8 domains).

END of discussion! I'll never add more replays here to people who are not reading the entire topic.

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

OMG... It's second time when I repeat: read my original post here about profile links (these profiles needs to be active to get authority, and I'm not talking about low PR forum profiles, I wrote about social profiles and landing pages from PR10-PR8 domains).

END of discussion! I'll never add more replays here to people who are not reading the entire topic.

Pages have PR not domains.

You could have a PR8 home page with tons of weak pages buried in the site, example, profile pages.

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nettiapina

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

OMG... It's second time when I repeat: read my original post here about profile links (these profiles needs to be active to get authority, and I'm not talking about low PR forum profiles, I wrote about social profiles and landing pages from PR10-PR8 domains).

Oh, that's the source of your confusion. Those profiles are pretty much worthless because the high-PR sites never link to them from any page that matters. Facebook's "front" only has links when you're logged in, and guess what Google spider never is on that site? Yeah.

I just don't get what's so hard to understand in this concept. It's SEO 101. Every other thread on this forum is about the same thing, some people just pick "web 2.0 blogs" as their preferred way of wasting time.

My Twitter profile page is PR5 because I've been spouting nonsense for ages, it's been linked around, and Finnish Broadcasting Company once linked to it from an article that became popular. There's a profile page that really has PR, but it's not because of Twitter.com. Still the page is not effective for anything other than providing myself some amusement. I do know how this stuff works, and that's why I'm expecting a solid explanation.

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Mike Anthony 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ppscslv

I wrote about social profiles and landing pages from PR10-PR8 domains).

May I borrow your gif?

Mike: Hey Little kitten. have you heard. Now domains have PAGE rank?

Kitten:

Kitten: Are people STILL teaching and believing in that Angela Backlink stuff?
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ConsultJoseph

10 years ago

Let's go back to the main question... profile links still have an impact in SEO.

It can be negative or positive depending on how you do it.

If you want links which can benefit your SEO then go for DOFOLLOW profile links (and then try to index them).

If you want links which can benefit you in terms of traffic then go to niche-targeted forums, create profiles and then participate in the forums.

If you want links which can help improve your domain authority then go to high PR forums and build profile links there (most of the links will be NOFOLLOW but that's okay since they can help neutralize your anchor text diversity and reduce the percentage of incoming DF links).