Anyone makes more than $1,000/day with paid traffic?

Been doing SEO for almost 5 years now, I can say that I'm pretty successful at it. What I'm trying to do is to expand my reach and to drive more traffic via paid sources. Just wondering if there is anyone out there making more than $1k/day pure profit? Obviously there is serious marketers out there that do, but I'm wondering if there is anyone on this forum who does! I'm not interested to nickle and dime, therefor I'd like know if its worth my effort and time.

I'd like to hear from people that do make a killing with paid sources besides FB!

Hey dude

I am. I've been doing paid search for over 8 years now but I only stick to lead based CPA programs mostly in finance (i.e. insurance quotes, mortgage applications, debt management, etc). I get at least $50 bucks a form submit via my own merchant deals so I can easily afford to spend big on Adwords and outbid the smaller affiliates.

But the main difference from SEO to Paid Traffic is you need to have a budget to test keywords and gather data in order to find your converting keyword set. Then you tweak, adjust and add more. Obviously, you keep adding keywords as you go along and any campaign is a gradual growth process ... but in order to get to the $1k a day profit you do need nerves of steel as well.

I get about 25-30% profit margin which is pretty good, but you do the maths: In order to get my $1k a day I spend at least $3k a day but get like $4.5k to $5k back in revenue ... then factor in some rejections as well which brings the total profit down to roughly $1k. Some days I make a lot more but weekends are a bit quieter so my daily take is a bit lower, just because less people are on the internet looking for these kinds of products on Saturdays and Sundays. They are usually out shopping, ha. But weekdays can sometimes get pretty crazy though.

So you see, big profits always come with an even bigger daily spend in Paid Search, but just like in any business you need to be on the ball with the numbers as this isn't monopoly money

The reason I prefer Paid to SEO is simply the SPEED you can get traffic at. I can test any new product today and get some traffic or scale a campaign up. You can't do this with SEO. Also, if you want to do SEO you should still do some paid search as it will be a lot quicker to find the converting keywords you want your site to be optimized for.

But I'd still favour Paid Search over SEO due to how fast you can get traffic at, and you aren't bound to an algo change which could wipe out most of your efforts in one go (I've seen it happen many times when Google rolls out an update).

But to answer your question: A day without Paid Traffic sources is like a day without sunshine. At least for me it would be

Nick

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yako

10 years ago

Hi! Maybe you can help a bit.

You use paid traffic to direct link to the offer or you create a site in the middle?

Thanks for any help.

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Hey dude

I am. I've been doing paid search for over 8 years now but I only stick to lead based CPA programs mostly in finance (i.e. insurance quotes, mortgage applications, debt management, etc). I get at least $50 bucks a form submit via my own merchant deals so I can easily afford to spend big on Adwords and outbid the smaller affiliates.

But the main difference from SEO to Paid Traffic is you need to have a budget to test keywords and gather data in order to find your converting keyword set. Then you tweak, adjust and add more. Obviously, you keep adding keywords as you go along and any campaign is a gradual growth process ... but in order to get to the $1k a day profit you do need nerves of steel as well.

I get about 25-30% profit margin which is pretty good, but you do the maths: In order to get my $1k a day I spend at least $3k a day but get like $4.5k to $5k back in revenue ... then factor in some rejections as well which brings the total profit down to roughly $1k. Some days I make a lot more but weekends are a bit quieter so my daily take is a bit lower, just because less people are on the internet looking for these kinds of products on Saturdays and Sundays. They are usually out shopping, ha. But weekdays can sometimes get pretty crazy though.

So you see, big profits always come with an even bigger daily spend in Paid Search, but just like in any business you need to be on the ball with the numbers as this isn't monopoly money

The reason I prefer Paid to SEO is simply the SPEED you can get traffic at. I can test any new product today and get some traffic or scale a campaign up. You can't do this with SEO. Also, if you want to do SEO you should still do some paid search as it will be a lot quicker to find the converting keywords you want your site to be optimized for.

But I'd still favour Paid Search over SEO due to how fast you can get traffic at, and you aren't bound to an algo change which could wipe out most of your efforts in one go (I've seen it happen many times when Google rolls out an update).

But to answer your question: A day without Paid Traffic sources is like a day without sunshine. At least for me it would be

Nick

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badboy_Nick

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yako

Hi! Maybe you can help a bit.

You use paid traffic to direct link to the offer or you create a site in the middle?

Thanks for any help.

I use a site in the middle which is my own but simply install the merchant's form which sends the leads in real-time as soon as they come in. I believe this is what you call "host and post" which allows me to advertise on Adwords, BING and even Facebook without breaking any bridge-page violations as I do know PPC platforms don't really like direct linking.

That way I stay in full control, don't step on any toes and I'm always fully compliant

Nick

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yako

10 years ago

EDIT: I read more about host and post which I didn't know it event existed! thanks for sharing. I am wondering which networks have these kind of offers.

When you say you install the merchant form in your own site, you mean like an iframe with the merchant URL inside your own site?

Thanks again

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

I use a site in the middle which is my own but simply install the merchant's form which sends the leads as soon as they come in real-time. I believe this is what you call "host and post" which allows me to advertise on Adwords, BING and even Facebook without breaking any bridge-page violations as I do know PPC platforms don't really like direct linking.

That way I stay in full control, don't step on any toes and I'm always fully compliant

Nick

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badboy_Nick

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yako

EDIT: When you say you install the merchant form in your own site, you mean like an iframe with the merchant URL inside your own site?

Thanks again

Yeah you can use iframe but that's a very basic/crude way of implementing it. I prefer a normal php "post/get" forms as it can be customized to look a lot nicer via CSS and give your whole site a much cleaner and professional look. This in turn tends to increase the conversion rate which means more leads and a bigger ROI margin.

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yako

10 years ago

Thaaaanks. Last (I promise)

Is there any HnP network you would recommend?

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Yeah you can use iframe but that's a very basic/crude way of implementing it. I prefer a normal php "post/get" forms as it can be customized to look a lot nicer via CSS and give your whole site a much cleaner and professional look. This in turn tends to increase the conversion rate which means more leads and a bigger ROI margin.

Nick

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Content Commando

10 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

I use a site in the middle which is my own but simply install the merchant's form which sends the leads in real-time as soon as they come in. I believe this is what you call "host and post" which allows me to advertise on Adwords, BING and even Facebook without breaking any bridge-page violations as I do know PPC platforms don't really like direct linking.

That way I stay in full control, don't step on any toes and I'm always fully compliant

Nick

That's clever!

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nocturnal911

10 years ago

Hey,

Do you mind telling me what are the best niches for paid traffic. I have tried niches like diet offers with paid traffic, but the spend is way too much ..

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Hey dude

I am. I've been doing paid search for over 8 years now but I only stick to lead based CPA programs mostly in finance (i.e. insurance quotes, mortgage applications, debt management, etc). I get at least $50 bucks a form submit via my own merchant deals so I can easily afford to spend big on Adwords and outbid the smaller affiliates.

But the main difference from SEO to Paid Traffic is you need to have a budget to test keywords and gather data in order to find your converting keyword set. Then you tweak, adjust and add more. Obviously, you keep adding keywords as you go along and any campaign is a gradual growth process ... but in order to get to the $1k a day profit you do need nerves of steel as well.

I get about 25-30% profit margin which is pretty good, but you do the maths: In order to get my $1k a day I spend at least $3k a day but get like $4.5k to $5k back in revenue ... then factor in some rejections as well which brings the total profit down to roughly $1k. Some days I make a lot more but weekends are a bit quieter so my daily take is a bit lower, just because less people are on the internet looking for these kinds of products on Saturdays and Sundays. They are usually out shopping, ha. But weekdays can sometimes get pretty crazy though.

So you see, big profits always come with an even bigger daily spend in Paid Search, but just like in any business you need to be on the ball with the numbers as this isn't monopoly money

The reason I prefer Paid to SEO is simply the SPEED you can get traffic at. I can test any new product today and get some traffic or scale a campaign up. You can't do this with SEO. Also, if you want to do SEO you should still do some paid search as it will be a lot quicker to find the converting keywords you want your site to be optimized for.

But I'd still favour Paid Search over SEO due to how fast you can get traffic at, and you aren't bound to an algo change which could wipe out most of your efforts in one go (I've seen it happen many times when Google rolls out an update).

But to answer your question: A day without Paid Traffic sources is like a day without sunshine. At least for me it would be

Nick

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badboy_Nick

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nocturnal911

Hey,

Do you mind telling me what are the best niches for paid traffic. I have tried niches like diet offers with paid traffic, but the spend is way too much ..

I would say the best CPA niches or markets are anything that pay you a commission per lead and not per sale where a credit card is required.

In my opinion, the finance market still has the highest CPL payouts and you get paid whenever a customer gives you his name, address and phone number and that's pretty much it ... which is really all a broker needs to instantly give him a call and sell his products.

To give some examples, Debt Management enquiries is a good product although quite competitive, pretty much any type of insurance product as you can cross-sell between them and Loan applications is OK but not that exciting these days post credit-crunch. However, I tend to stay away from payday though or anything else that is too sub-prime and focus more on traditional secured/unsecured loans which are primarily aimed at the lower and upper middle-class. All these tend to pay very handsomely at around $40-50 bucks per lead/form submit.

Casino, Betting, Gambling and Forex products also have a nice CPL payout but they are a bit harder to convert as you only get paid if the user also makes a deposit after they have signed up to register an account.

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baza1955

10 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

I would say the best CPA niches or markets are anything that pay you a commission per lead and not per sale where a credit card is required.

In my opinion, the finance market still has the highest CPL payouts and you get paid whenever a customer gives you his name, address and phone number and that's pretty much it ... which is really all a broker needs to instantly give him a call and sell his products.

To give some examples, Debt Management enquiries is a good product although quite competitive, pretty much any type of insurance product as you can cross-sell between them and Loan applications is OK but not that exciting these days post credit-crunch. However, I tend to stay away from payday though or anything else that is too sub-prime and focus more on traditional secured/unsecured loans which are primarily aimed at the lower and upper middle-class. All these tend to pay very handsomely at around $40-50 bucks per lead/form submit.

Casino, Betting, Gambling and Forex products also have a nice CPL payout but they are a bit harder to convert as you only get paid if the user also makes a deposit after they have signed up to register an account.

Nick

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RemyLango

10 years ago

I have a few clients at my agency that bank at least $5000 a day using PPC so yes it is possible.

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creat1veone

10 years ago

Has anyone here ever tried using paid traffic in the gaming niche? Like video games, not gambling but online video games like minecraft etc? With CPA? Any advice?

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blitz20

10 years ago

I am doing 5k-10k a day in revenue using paid and about half or a little more is profit. It is doable just be sure to test everything to help you scale your traffic.