Mediabuyscoach.com any good? Same guys behind PPCcoach.com

Watched a 1 hour webinar put on by offervault to promote them....was basically a 1 hour commercial for mediabuys, not overly impressed

It's going very well so far. Carl is the guy with all the knowledge/experience and since he's doing mid 6 figures every month, we made the site follow in his foot steps. We structured it so that in the first month, you can test, figure out creatives, launch campaigns for a small budget, then in month 2 we release the big boy media buy info. This way people can learn the ropes without needing a $10,000 budget. It's how I like to structure all my first months on my coaching sites. (the walk before you run mentality).

Month 2 starts in couple days for several members and I really think they're going to be blown away.

Of course whatever I think is bias as I am co-founder of mediabuyscoach.com.

Which course is better Gauther Chaundhry or PPC Coach?

thx
jeanmarie

Mediabuys costs $200 per month. Isn't it very expensive for beginners???

Just to stop the mis-information about mediabuyscoach.com...

If you don't make money in the first month, there's something seriously wrong with you. We don't throw you into the shark tank and hope you'll succeed in month 1. We had to come to a happy medium and build a solid foundation before you get into the big boy world of media buying.

It's not a marketing gimmick, it's not a ploy. It's also NOT an ebook and it's NOT a course. It's a coaching site. The main reason people fail at making money online is they spend too much time reading and not enough time taking action. There's an epidemic of paralysis by overanalysis in the affiliate marketing world. That's why with the ebooks and courses a lot still fail. They jump ahead to whatever chapter they want instead of going through the thing in order like they're supposed to. People want things yesterday online and it just kills their ability to actually make money. When they skip the basics they have no foundation so they attempt something far beyond their skillset or experience level and naturally fail. I know this. I've been training affiliates for over 2 years now at PPC Coach and for a couple years prior to that in a 1on1 format. I've had over 5,000 people through all my sites now and it's always the same. The failures fail because they lack the proper system to learn, they want to jump ahead, they want to skip things AND they lack the work ethic required as well.

My training works very well for every member who actually follows it. You can't build a house without a solid foundation. You can't get a university degree without a high school diploma which you can't get without graduating Grade 8. There's always a process there and there's a preset system to educate people. Hell doctors spend years upon years in residence mode before they're allowed to become a real doctor. Plumbers spend a year or so as apprentices, there's plenty of examples out there. Yet online it's not like that. People only want the stuff that will make them $1,000+ per day, (which is a small number for media buys) and they want it yesterday. Meantime they have zero clue about what making that entails. Well, I do know what it takes as I make MORE then that daily. My partner in the site makes even more then I do. So you've got 2 guys who make a lot of money online every day who are there to answer your questions and guide you to success.

There's some information on media buying in this thread, but it's minimal and the "public domain" stuff. It's the stuff where you can blow a lot of money and not get any results because you didn't have someone who is already making millions per year showing you the ropes.

On a side note, what's better for you?

A course that costs $997 or $1997 as a one time fee?

OR

A coaching site that costs a fraction of that per month?

With the expensive course, you're paying for everything up front, so there's no need for the course writer to actually support your success later on. They've made their money, they're done. They take a vacation and then come back 6 months to a year later with version 2.0, (which is typically adding a chapter or module or two and including all the old information in it). So yes you get it all right away, but you don't get the support you need when it comes to the little and big questions down the road. You can't blame them, they've already been paid in full.

With a coaching site, you can quit at anytime, so the onus is on the people running the site to make every attempt to make you happy and KEEP you happy. That means always updating their content, always giving you the latest methods and techniques and always answering every question they can. If you're not happy, you'll quit. That means no more recurring income for them. They dont' like that as they want to make money too.

So from a buyers point of view, a coaching site is a live beast that is there to support you, while a course or ebook is a one night stand. From an ongoing point of view, you'd be far better off joining a coaching site then reading an ebook on how to do something.

Sorry for the long post, I just felt like explaining a bit of the method to the madness.

@tmedocianis:
so you said that it is worthless?

@coach:
maybe there's need some improvement so people that joined, won't see it useless paying $200/month. For me, paying once for lifetime for some useless product is the same as paying $200/month for something that I don't need.

Lots of bashing here. Look, despite me being banned from PPC-Coach, it's still a good program. Not necessarily because of the training, but because you're in an environment where everyone is paying money to be. The forums are where it's at. Everyone is trying to reach the same goal. There are people on ppc-coach that make a lot more money than anyone on warrior forum and the stuff on those forums is worth more than any course out there. It does take a lot of digging to find the gold, though. I always wished that coach would have spent some time collecting all the old school posts that were great and putting them in 1 forum for people to reference.

So, as far as mediabuyscoach, you're not just paying $200 for a couple of methods. You're paying the money to be an active member of a forum of a group of people paying the same amount of money to learn, and Carl really is great at what he does. Having him give you help with campaigns and all that, I can honestly say that's worth WAY more than any course because his posts on ppc-coach were great. The kid is 24 or something like that making more money than most of us dream of. And, you know what they say: don't bash it until you try it!

Hey oscarkool, thanks for that man. I appreciate it. The only reason I did what I did at PPC Coach was because I thought you were doing some kind of whisper campaign. Maybe I was wrong about you. I know I mishandled other things and this may be another thing I goofed up.



tmedocianis is not a fan of mine for anything I do.

So his or her opinion will be negative no matter what I do. That's ok, you can't please everyone and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But opinions from people who are not members and have never been members are just heresay. Also I totally disagree with his or her arguement that paying a fortune up front is somehow better. The person who got the money now has it in their hands, there's no need for them to do anything else. So they throw in a free forum and visit it once a week.

It's totally different styles. My style doesn't work for the "let me skip ahead to what I want to read" group, who is just seeking tricks and tips. My style does work for those who follow the process.

Go ahead and bash month 1, it's just the EXACT way my partner, (who does over $200,000 NET PROFIT per month), started out. So if you don't like following in the footsteps of wildly successful marketers, then skip it and skip all my sites. We put a system in place that mimics the exact path he took. How anyone finds fault with that is beyond me, but to each his own I guess. I guess they don't like doing the groundwork first to make sure they're prepared before they start doing $10k and up buys in the second month.

PPC Coach, I have a few questions I was hoping you might answer, please?

1) If the membership program at the PPC Coaches website cost $50 a month and the Mediabuycoachs website cost $200, does that mean the information at Mediabuycoach is 4 times as valuable as the knowledge to be gained at the PPC Coaches membership program?

2) Will you make 4 times as much money using what is taught at Mediabuycoach as you would at PPC Coach?

3) I really don't see how you can be involved with two different websites teaching the same material with such a large price difference, unless of course you are allocating more time and effort to the higher priced one. If that is the case, then are you not doing a disservice to the members at the PPC Coaches website, surely they did not sign up with your service to receive anything buy your best effort?

Hi everybody,

I am a member of PPC coach and Media Buys coach and I have to say that I am extremely impressed so far. It's not the normal rehashed crap that you see in most internet marketing courses. These two programs are all about thinking out of the box with guidance from creators that make their income using the methods that they teach and not from selling make money online products. It's not about competing with all the other internet marketers out there, it's about being better than them.

There's no upsell, you don't get emails from them every day promoting other people's products. If there is something to be learnt they tell you and teach it to you.

As for the cost, if product creators are already earning a massive income from practicing what they preach then why would they want to invest time creating a $20 ebook? It wouldn't make sense! Wake up! Would you? And for those of you that consistently buy cheap rehashed junk, then I'm affraid that you're probably not intelligent enough to make money online. Keep dreaming of changing your life by submitting articles to ezinearticles or setting up niche blogs. Keep losing hundreds of dollars hoping that one day you'll find a PPC campaign that works by bidding on the same keywords as every other internet marketer on the planet. There are so many of you competing against each other for a tiny fraction of the traffic that's available the chances are that the majority of you are earning less than the minimum wage in doing so.

Media Buying is difficult and expensive. But the rewards are truly astronomical. It's something that's not within the financial reach of most which keeps it exclusive. $200 a month is tiny amount of money to tap into one of the most immensely profitable areas of internet marketing. Some of you will be paying $100 a month to ezinearticles just so that you can have your articles approved quickly! This course is not for Joe Average and if your happy doing what you are doing then good luck to you. But don't whinge about the cost of the course - nobody is forcing you to buy it. Being a member of Media Buys coach is a privilege that you have to pay for and not a a right.

I can say with my hand on my heart that these courses are truly outstanding. They are very different from anything else that I've ever bought.

A bit of a rant but I can't stand to see negative comments made by people that quite frankly just do not know what they are talking about.

Cheers,

Andy

Can't help to point out there IS a very good and solid FREE file you can download out there in case you want to get into media buying. I have seen gurus rehashing same information from this same pdf file and then charge $4500 per seat in their seminar.

Guys, do some Google research if you can't afford such prices. Not sure if i am allowed to post the link here, but I will tell you anyways, go to google search for traffic tactics.

Media buying isn't some new stuff.

Again, we're not a course or ebook. We're there to support our members when they have questions. That's the basis of the site. The community is the best part. It's not a matter of the information being out there, it's a matter of the simple fact that when you start something new you WILL have questions.

To get answers you can go to public sources and hope someone answers you honestly and that the person answering isn't trying to throw you off their path because you're close to competing with them. There's a ton of mis information out there and sometimes people answering are just trying to build up their post count and have never even ran a campaign. Yet they're responding as if they know the right answer.

With my sites, you get a group of people who have been there and done that already. So yes you can get basic media buying information out there, but you cannot get a guy doing mid 6 figures monthly to personally answer your questions, (remember you will have questions). That's the real value. It's not the monthly techniques or other ad networks or the bonus site you're going to get as a member. It's the fact that you can be doing a campaign, get stuck, post a question and get a good answer quickly and from a solid source who has been down the road you're going.

Btw, we are going to be giving away free CPV Coach memberships to all Mediabuyscoach members in the near future AND we're going to do a test of a $1 trial for 3 days too. (It will recur at full price if you don't cancel, but we'll show you how to cancel and you control the cancelling fully from your paypal account, you don't go through us to do it).

ppc coach... if i have the money to spend on media buys say 20k to start is there a need for your course? i mean its seems quite simple.. when u have the cash flow u just need to create an account and get your ad rep to optimize it for whatever campaign you r running..

when is this free trial starting im interested in joining it?

I was a member of MediaBuysCoach, and I can tell you it was a great place to go for support and education for someone who is new to the idea of media buys. Unfortunately, in the 5 months I was there, with a total spend of $1000 to MBC guys, I was unable to find media buys that were profitable enough to continue my membership but I am now working on a couple of different approaches using the methods they teach. I hope one day I can make this work and if/when I do, I hope to pick up where I left off which is something they allow if you need to pause your membership.

Avoid like the plague if you want to make money. Take that $200 and do some small media buys of your own. That experience is worth much more than anything MBC could teach you.