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What methods do you use to build your CPA income?

Blogging seems overly popular are there others you use and have success with?
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  • Profile picture of the author xpandabl
    So very true, and WAY TOO time consuming if I might say so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
    Hahaha yeah I know what you mean. You try using one particular CPA offer and create a landing page for it, and consider buying targeted traffic for it? Instead of all the hassle of PPC you can just order targeted traffic for your niche. I know people do PPC but for me thats too confusing and time consuming, I'm not quite there yet. I just broke down and bought targeted traffic and tested small amount, got a lot of clicks and decent leads. If your interested you can see the link in my signature. This is just how I do my CPA offers. Best regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
    Also I know that Kensters WSO has many methods used just for CPA offers, very top notch. He gives a lot of different ways to go about CPA offers. Hope this helps aswell.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
      Originally Posted by Michael Hastings View Post

      Also I know that Kensters WSO has many methods used just for CPA offers, very top notch. He gives a lot of different ways to go about CPA offers. Hope this helps aswell.

      Thanks Michael do you have a link to the WSO or to his site that I can check out the product? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
    No problem. Just remember when your making bank I get 10% haha jk. Search how to be a CPA millionaire, thats his thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author LasseKohau
    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...C9H4Cu5xmNvOow

    Here you go, BR LASSE.

    Excellent WSO from Kenster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
    Thanks Lasse, I didn't know how to do that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Originally Posted by SeanSupplee View Post

    What methods do you use to build your CPA income?

    Blogging seems overly popular are there others you use and have success with?
    Hi Sean,

    Kenster's guide is excellent, worth every penny.

    You will discover most of the huge earners in CPA are using a lot of PPC and other paid traffic to get their offers in front of people.

    Free methods you can consider include YouTube videos, article marketing, classified ads (with caution and AM approval), Social networking, and even offline methods.

    The biggest determining factor is going to be your resources. If you have plenty of capital, and are willing to risk some while learning PPC, it is probably your best bet, but plan for initial losses. (Not personal experience, but statements from experienced CPA guys.)

    If you are in my shoes, and don't wish to invest or risk much money for now, then using a combination of free traffic methods is ideal. Once you build up some consistent income then you can venture into PPC.

    I am working with YouTube Videos, Article Marketing, and blogs to work on my traffic streams. Since this is a little longer term strategy I am choosing markets which will have continued offers so as offers disappear I can easily rotate new ones in.

    I am not doing any direct linking, everything heads towards my blogs, or my own domain names, so I can easily change the offers.

    Barry
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Barry has some spot on advice here.

    Free traffic is great because

    #1 its free
    #2 many free methods will bring you continued traffic forever. Once you put a video up or submit an article, it stays "out there" for a long time
    #3 it teaches you how to be extra creative.
    #4 teached you all the basics of any IM campaign. Teaches you copywriting, traffic generation, how to build a landing page, testing, tracking

    And as Barry also states, its great to set up a home base. In his case its a blog. Then you can get organic traffic (again, free) and can easily change and test offers!


    Sean if you have any specific questions about free traffic generation, write them here....there are very helpful warriors here!

    -kenster
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    • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
      Been around here for a while just first time jumping into CPA like to try new things after I have something working and stable.

      Going to pick up your report here today and read over it. But from what I can tell right now. Article marketing is out since you have to link to a main domain name. Unless of course you buy the domain and create a web site out of it for your CPA's

      Currently I am just running game ads on my browser game site I started about 2 years ago lol its been really neglected but still gets some traffic.

      If you care to share some free strategies that have worked for you it would be a huge help and thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Sean, You can buy inexpensive .info domains and do redirects for your articles.

    Example: For a dating offer you could get - seanshotdatingtips.info
    You then point all of your articles at this domain, which is setup to redirect to the offer. If the offer changes, you simply change the redirect to point to the new offer.

    Second point on Article Marketing - most directories do allow direct linking to offers.

    Personally I still would not direct link to the offers, because then you would need to go back and change the articles resource boxes. It is much easier to buy a cheap domain name and do the redirects.

    Investing a couple dollars to promote an offer is pretty inexpensive. One mistake on PPC will cost you much more.

    The biggest problem with article marketing will be the time you invest in creating and bookmarking articles. It is a time intensive method of promotion.
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    • Profile picture of the author BillyA
      Originally Posted by KansasDragon View Post

      Investing a couple dollars to promote an offer is pretty inexpensive. One mistake on PPC will cost you much more.
      That quote should be said to every noobie in this field! All the research I have done has said to test before you get too deep, but I agree with what you said, because PPC is a larger scale, and you have more to lose.
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    Anything and everything!! It can't hurt to diversify!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Affiliit View Post

      Anything and everything!! It can't hurt to diversify!

      Diversifying is absolutely essential, especially in CPA where niches, offers, methods, strategies can dry up overnight. Of course your goal should be to set up more automated sustainable income sources, but sometimes our best campaigns can be dedicated to a specific offer that cant be replaced effectively when that offer dies. We try and avoid that as much as possible

      Diversifying is absolutely critical!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    Hey Sean,

    Was curious what direction you dived in and how you are doing?

    I know alot of people just tell you to copy off someone else's hard work who has good rankings but that often puzzles me if every single marketer is doing that.

    Just remember to pick a niche that has long term value and anything you build will become an asset that can be sold later.

    You make a good point.

    I think the best results come from looking at people who are doing well in other verticals, other offers, other keywords etc and using those in your campaigns. So you are using the best of the best from everywhere!

    At the end of the day, I would rather take a look at the result of other peoples testing than to spend thousands myself in testing!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      You make a good point.

      I think the best results come from looking at people who are doing well in other verticals, other offers, other keywords etc and using those in your campaigns. So you are using the best of the best from everywhere!

      At the end of the day, I would rather take a look at the result of other peoples testing than to spend thousands myself in testing!!!!
      I still can't believe people really do spend thousands just in testing. Thats ridiculous. I just buy high grade targeted traffic and never looked back!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Michael Hastings View Post

        I still can't believe people really do spend thousands just in testing. Thats ridiculous. I just buy high grade targeted traffic and never looked back!

        There are people spending more than that!!!


        No matter how high grade or how targeted your traffic, you will still need to spend money in testing. Remember, testing at first may mean you are losing money , but once you turn a campaign positive, then you still "spend" in testing. For example, if you are seeing a 70% ROI on a campaign and do a split test and your ROI drops to 64%, then you just "spent" some money in testing even though you were still making money.

        So testing is something everybody should always be doing. How you look at it in terms of cost/investment is personal preference! :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Hastings
          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          There are people spending more than that!!!


          No matter how high grade or how targeted your traffic, you will still need to spend money in testing. Remember, testing at first may mean you are losing money , but once you turn a campaign positive, then you still "spend" in testing. For example, if you are seeing a 70% ROI on a campaign and do a split test and your ROI drops to 64%, then you just "spent" some money in testing even though you were still making money.

          So testing is something everybody should always be doing. How you look at it in terms of cost/investment is personal preference! :p
          Wow more than thousands!? Guess I'm not quiet at that level yet haha. Hey Ken did you get my pm or email yet about your wso? Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author Kenster
            Originally Posted by Michael Hastings View Post

            Wow more than thousands!? Guess I'm not quiet at that level yet haha. Hey Ken did you get my pm or email yet about your wso? Thanks

            yeah bro, many more...there are people pulling ginormous numbers

            yep, checking pms tonight
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  • Profile picture of the author stephane
    Good post!
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  • Profile picture of the author MR.MOE
    I think this is the most lucrative business but you need to be creative. Don't stick with one method because it might be a goldmine now but once its uncovered not so much. So in my opinion try to have as many methods as you can. Its like having only one source of income once its gone you have nothing else. On the other hand if you had more than one source of income they would substitute for each other.

    Moe
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by MR.MOE View Post

      I think this is the most lucrative business but you need to be creative. Don't stick with one method because it might be a goldmine now but once its uncovered not so much. So in my opinion try to have as many methods as you can. Its like having only one source of income once its gone you have nothing else. On the other hand if you had more than one source of income they would substitute for each other.

      Moe

      Yeah get pms and hear horror stories all the time where people are like...Yo I was making 5k per week autopilot for the last few months but now my method stopped working, what should I do.


      I'm like dude, instead of sitting on your bum for the last few months basking in your autopilot income you should have been replicating, diersifying, re-investing, duplicating. Same can be said with the investors of bernie madoff who had all their money with him. Yeah you can call them dumb for not spreading their risk, but there is nothing really to tell them now. Lesson learned.


      Approach CPA like a business, protect your assets, diversify, set controls, etc
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkSherris
    i havn't read everything on this thread but as far as CPA goes, I'd say you've gotta use different methods because what works for one thing, might not work for another!

    If you can get a decent amount per lead and the landing page is good then PPC is a good option to take, just make sure you try split testing your ads to see which work the best.

    Youtube - it's good but sometimes you need a high amount of views to get a conversion, just depends how targetted your video is - make sure you use screen annotations, and edit you're video, (maybe put you're link up on the video at the end, so you're not relying on people reading the description box)

    Articles can work for very targetted niches, for example if you can get your article (ezine articles is a good place) to rank in google for something with not a lot of competition, then that would work!

    Press Releases too I s'pose! :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by MarkSherris View Post

      i havn't read everything on this thread but as far as CPA goes, I'd say you've gotta use different methods because what works for one thing, might not work for another!

      If you can get a decent amount per lead and the landing page is good then PPC is a good option to take, just make sure you try split testing your ads to see which work the best.

      Youtube - it's good but sometimes you need a high amount of views to get a conversion, just depends how targetted your video is - make sure you use screen annotations, and edit you're video, (maybe put you're link up on the video at the end, so you're not relying on people reading the description box)

      Articles can work for very targetted niches, for example if you can get your article (ezine articles is a good place) to rank in google for something with not a lot of competition, then that would work!

      Press Releases too I s'pose! :-)


      Yes, press releases work too and most CPA marketers have never even touched PR.

      you rarely even here PR and CPA together

      Its an art in its own right, but if you are a decent writer and learn the PR format, def another way to diversify your traffic!

      :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkSherris
    btw I'm no expert, just know that it's pointless sticking with 1 method, gotta test and test and see what works
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by MarkSherris View Post

      btw I'm no expert, just know that it's pointless sticking with 1 method, gotta test and test and see what works

      Yeah. I mean at first its godo to poke around and see which direction you want to take, but once you pick a direction you really gotta grind it out and overcome the hurdles and become good at that method.

      Method jumping doesnt work!
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      • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        Yeah. I mean at first its godo to poke around and see which direction you want to take, but once you pick a direction you really gotta grind it out and overcome the hurdles and become good at that method.

        Method jumping doesnt work!
        You are definitely right here. People should try to test methods at the same time. It will tell them which will work best for them.

        Another suggestion is to automate things and scale them up. Once you find a method that works, duplicate it so its profit potential is endless.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by airabongco View Post

          You are definitely right here. People should try to test methods at the same time. It will tell them which will work best for them.

          Another suggestion is to automate things and scale them up. Once you find a method that works, duplicate it so its profit potential is endless.


          BAM, yes that is exactly how I made and still make a good deal of my income. Just multiply the crap out of something that is working a little.


          I've always and will always think that having 1000 of the same campaigns each making $1 per day is better than 1 campaign making $1300 per day. What happens when a competitor who is smarter or more technical than me (there are a lot) comes in, spies on me, and directly competes with my keyword, traffic source, landing page, banner, whatever. Now my $1300 per day could be making $300 per day or less.


          There is a lot of competition and spy tactics in CPA. I would much rather you try and compete against my 1000 campaigns than my 1 campaign.


          duplicate baby

          duplicate like bunnies make babies!
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  • Profile picture of the author AidenChong
    I was using paid traffic and I like it purely because the result was instantaneous. I don't like it because of the daily cash flow issue (obviously, I was running on a tight budget). I had some success with the paid method -- CPV/PPV.

    Recently, I am getting myself prepared to use SEO, building niche/authority sites. I am going to use the cash generated from my SEO effort, to invest into the paid method.

    With the free method, it's not going to cause me much more money than the paid method do. But the result could be a bit slower.

    Like Kenster said, diversifying is one of the key points in the CPA industry.

    All the best...
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  • Profile picture of the author justnewbie
    Mainly setup wordpress pages for landing sites.

    For the blogging portion, I use it at the back. Automated blogging software to post every day for the SEO part. You won't be able to find any posts on the main site.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    There are lots of methods to make money with CPA offers , but my 3 biggest once are PPC , PPV and Media Buys.

    Mike
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