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1020 Clicks in 12 Hours with Maxbounty & No Conversion?

by Intrepreneur
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I started a campaign with max Bounty for the first time. Keyword focused (laser focused) and after 1020 clicks I haven't even had one single conversion.

With the main campaign being a one field email submit I'm really confused too. Though it only got 418 clickthroughs.

Is there a better converting network than this?

Please say there is lol.
#1020 #clicks #conversion #hours #maxbounty
  • Profile picture of the author clintonbock
    I had the same problem yesterday with Maxbounty. I even asked a friend of mine to sign up for an one page submit offer to see if it converts. He completed two pages of the offer, yet it did not convert.
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Originally Posted by clintonbock View Post

      I had the same problem yesterday with Maxbounty. I even asked a friend of mine to sign up for an one page submit offer to see if it converts. He completed two pages of the offer, yet it did not convert.
      Well that's probably my problem then. Any other networks that actually convert that you can recommend?

      Oh and were you using a URL shortener? As that's what I'm using.. maybe not a good idea?
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  • Profile picture of the author clintonbock
    According to MaxBounty, they are completely dependent on an advertiser identifying when a lead/sale is valid and I think all other CPA Networks as well. It all depends on the quality of the lead.

    Some of my leads convert and some dont.

    You will find quite a few threads in this forum on different CPA networks and how and when they pay. However I can't recommend another Network and say your conversions wont be scrubbed or shaved. Maybe somebody else will be able to recommend a Network with a better conversions rate.

    There is a sticky thread in this forum on CPA Networks. You will also find a lot of reviews and comments on various CPA Networks in here. Maybe that will give a clue.

    Sorry I cant be of any help.

    I sometimes use a url shotener and sometimes I dont, but I dont think it will have any effect on your conversion rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    I recommend Neverblue. I promote email submits with them and they don't scrub a lot.

    However, I'm not saying that MaxBounty is scrubbing your leads. I have never promoted email/zip submits with them, so I'm can't give you an opinion.


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    • Profile picture of the author harro1
      which ppc or ppv network did you use?
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  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    I feel like I am the only one who can find something that converts but can't bring this kind of traffick...How and where from?
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    • Profile picture of the author PPV Guru
      Originally Posted by clintonbock View Post

      I had the same problem yesterday with Maxbounty. I even asked a friend of mine to sign up for an one page submit offer to see if it converts. He completed two pages of the offer, yet it did not convert.
      Not every email submit converts on the first page even if it says it. Most of them convert 3-5 pages down the line so, if he just puts in his info and then nothing happens, that's probably why.

      Maxbounty is a GREAT network and they don't scrub that much. In fact, I only work with a few networks now because I got sick of the little ones doing shady things. One of the few networks I work with is Maxbounty.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPV Guru
    Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

    I started a campaign with max Bounty for the first time. Keyword focused (laser focused) and after 1020 clicks I haven't even had one single conversion.

    With the main campaign being a one field email submit I'm really confused too. Though it only got 418 clickthroughs.

    Is there a better converting network than this?

    Please say there is lol.
    There are a TON of variables we don't know about to be able to determine why no conversions. Your problem doesn't seem like a network problem, it seems like a targeting problem and a landing page problem. You might need to get an extensive course on landing pages and advertising training.
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    • Profile picture of the author affluence.p
      Originally Posted by PPV Guru View Post

      There are a TON of variables we don't know about to be able to determine why no conversions. Your problem doesn't seem like a network problem, it seems like a targeting problem and a landing page problem. You might need to get an extensive course on landing pages and advertising training.
      Man. are you being serious? What other guru-courses and cheesy training do you want to sell him that's better than what he already has? Someone just said that he actually asked a friend to literally complete an offer yet it did not convert. And you had the nerve to EXPLAIN that scenario away.

      Are you saying that it is now possible to access an offer landing page from an IP that's outside the pre-targeted geo location? Please stop propagating error or fraud. Folks PAY MONEY (yes I do, on FB and elsewhere) to get the traffic. The least these networks and their clients can do is to be HONEST, KEEP TO THEIR WORD and convert a visit that performs the stipulated action. Saying anything otherwise is simply being immoral and fraudulent with impunity. This is the same reason many affiliates would go to the other extreme to defraud networks.

      Please we need sanity and integrity in this so called CPA industry.
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    it is helpful for me,thanks all
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    • Profile picture of the author cpabrainstormer
      Hey Intrepreneur,

      Had the EXACT same problem a while back. I was getting somewhere around 900+ clicks to my offer without ANY conversions. So I joined Neverblue and it has literally been like night and day. I sent the exact same traffic that I was sending to an iPad e-mail submit offer on Maxbounty, to an almost identical iPad e-mail submit on Neverblue, and I was getting around 20-25 conversions per day.

      Not saying that Maxbounty is doing anything illegal or shady, but I definitely like Neverblue a lot more ! Hope that helps!

      Best of Luck,

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      • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
        Originally Posted by cpabrainstormer View Post



        Not saying that Maxbounty is doing anything illegal or shady, but I definitely like Neverblue a lot more ! Hope that helps!

        Best of Luck,

        CPABrainstormer
        Now switched the campaign over to Neverblue as they have the same offer. 3 clicks so far. Will update after the 1k again.

        Cheers.
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        • Profile picture of the author footrot
          Did you ever get to 1000 clicks? would like to know the result - I have just joined up with MaxBounty and now wondering if I should now be looking elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I am starting to hear some negative comments about maxbounty. I was a member before but dropped them after experiencing the same problem. My total average conversion rate with peerfly is around 8%. Other campaigns even having 20% to 35%.... and I never used PPC... just targeted SEO...
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  • Profile picture of the author smartdoctor
    That is a good conversion to me
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  • Profile picture of the author jzorro
    I had good experience with MaxBounty in the past... but I must say that I'm too finding more difficult to convert traffic into leads with it.

    One thing: You mention super targeted traffic. From where is the traffic coming?
    Are you sure it is super targeted?
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  • Profile picture of the author 1GreatCPA
    our network gets approximately 30k to 45k clicks per day and leads come 200 to 250 only so traffic quality is must in order to generate leads .
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  • Profile picture of the author Duccorleone
    I have the same problem with maxbounty. I promote email submit offer got over 1000 clicks but no conversion. Its not coincidence
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  • Profile picture of the author Freddie
    I am surprised to hear this. I have run a few email submits with Maxbounty and for me they have always converted reasonably as expected, depending on how junky vs targeted traffic I have sent... Maybe the problem has been the offer owner rather than Maxbounty? Personally I have never had reason to suspect any shady business by Maxbounty.
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    • Profile picture of the author edwin3145
      I think they just pick certain accounts to screw over. They have plausible deniability that way. I have have driven over 5k hits to various offers at Max Bounty, damn good traffic. 1 conversion.
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  • Profile picture of the author itravel2004
    Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

    I started a campaign with max Bounty for the first time. Keyword focused (laser focused) and after 1020 clicks I haven't even had one single conversion.

    With the main campaign being a one field email submit I'm really confused too. Though it only got 418 clickthroughs.

    Is there a better converting network than this?

    Please say there is lol.
    me too, it seem email submit not easy get conversation compare with last time.
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    • Profile picture of the author SerpSlayer
      I think all email submits get scrubbed at some point, either by the advertiser or the network. I have had offers that converted at .30 -.40epc one day and .10epc the next. Then as soon as the clock hit 12am, then it started converting back at 30 - 40epc.
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  • Profile picture of the author espresso
    I was having issues a few weeks ago with this too
    I am with MB but have a fairly dormant account
    Last month I sent about 1000 clicks to various offers some direct linking some not but got no leads
    I assumed it had something to do with my traffic source
    I may take an other look at it
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  • Profile picture of the author nicnac03
    Same here,

    I don't know what's going on here but I sent in traffic that converted well on another network and got 0 conversions from Maxbounty after about 100 clicks so I dropped them. That same 100 clicks would've gotten me around 10-15 leads on the other network. Not cool at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author MTVida
      Originally Posted by nicnac03 View Post

      Same here,

      I don't know what's going on here but I sent in traffic that converted well on another network and got 0 conversions from Maxbounty after about 100 clicks so I dropped them. That same 100 clicks would've gotten me around 10-15 leads on the other network. Not cool at all.
      A lot of the time, advertisers will set certain scrub rates for different networks. Network A might be sending traffic that produces better leads than Network B, so they put a higher scrub on Network B. Even if you send good quality traffic, you'll get scrubbed more when you send it through network B.
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      • Profile picture of the author SerpSlayer
        Originally Posted by MTVida View Post

        A lot of the time, advertisers will set certain scrub rates for different networks. Network A might be sending traffic that produces better leads than Network B, so they put a higher scrub on Network B. Even if you send good quality traffic, you'll get scrubbed more when you send it through network B.
        Networks also can have drastically different payouts. So it would make sense that some get scrubbed more than others. You just need to assume, when running email submits that, you aren't getting credit for every lead you generate. If an offer doesn't convert, switch to another one.
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  • Profile picture of the author espresso
    they are the only CPA company I have been with
    In the past other campaigns worked fine

    Until February this year my campaigns on average converted at a bout 10% (email submits) but lately nothing
    I am about to do a small dating test on them and see if that has any luck (I will be using a landing page) If that fails I might look for an alternative
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Oh and were you using a URL shortener? As that's what I'm using.. maybe not a good idea?
    That is bad idea, just pay for hosting. But unlikely effecting your conversions.

    What is your traffic source?

    Also have you tested another offer?

    Also why did you send so much traffic it wasn't converting?

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author alldomain
    maxbounty is the biggest network to shave leads dude. i would stay far away from them
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  • Profile picture of the author mafai44
    Everyone's going to scrub.. if you don't have quality traffic your leads will not convert. Maxbounty is a great network and this will happen anywhere you go if your traffic is crap. As much as it depends on the cpa network, it also depends on the traffic source. I have been using max bounty, peerfly and cpaway. Cpaway converts really well when I was doing email submits.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    I have never had an issue with MaxBounty, are you sure that you are targeting in allowed countries?
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

    I started a campaign with max Bounty for the first time. Keyword focused (laser focused) and after 1020 clicks I haven't even had one single conversion.

    With the main campaign being a one field email submit I'm really confused too. Though it only got 418 clickthroughs.

    Is there a better converting network than this?

    Please say there is lol.
    It is 100% because it is an email submit. They scrub at minimum 80% of these leads.


    The reasoning is if any email has been entered into that system before, from anyone, anywhere, they will not count it as a lead.
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    • Profile picture of the author brentb
      Scrubs:

      IP geolocation, if you enter info on the follow up question that does not match location you will be scrubbed.

      Not making it past the first page will be scrub (for some email submits not all, some are truly first page)

      Email is invalid

      User already in system.

      User is not profitable (This is for some email submits, some it is not the case)
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    • Profile picture of the author MonetizeMedia
      Originally Posted by SandraLarkin View Post

      It is 100% because it is an email submit. They scrub at minimum 80% of these leads.


      The reasoning is if any email has been entered into that system before, from anyone, anywhere, they will not count it as a lead.
      I wouldn't call that scrubbing. Why would they pay you for information they already have? It's just common sense..
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

    I started a campaign with max Bounty for the first time. Keyword focused (l
    You guys really gotta stop promoting anything pay-per-sale based ... and stick to pay per LEAD! Higher payouts and sooo much easier to convert. Also, start looking for private deals, you get better commissions this way by cutting out the middleman.

    Works like a charm in the UK and that's what I do all day ... any questions just let me know

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    • Profile picture of the author spainops
      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      You guys really gotta stop promoting anything pay-per-sale based ... and stick to pay per LEAD! Higher payouts and sooo much easier to convert. Also, start looking for private deals, you get better commissions this way by cutting out the middleman.

      Works like a charm in the UK and that's what I do all day ... any questions just let me know

      Best,
      Nick
      Nick you sound like you are doing well - I'm new to CPA - any tips much appreciated

      Si
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenny T
    Email/zip submits has the most scrubbing out of the CPA offers from my marketing experience. Usually I would avoid them when starting out testing offers from an affiliate network
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  • Profile picture of the author fermanaziz
    I am having same problem with MaxBounty I see conversion in my CPVLab and no conversion in Maxbounty reports....what's going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeFerguson
      Originally Posted by fermanaziz View Post

      I am having same problem with MaxBounty I see conversion in my CPVLab and no conversion in Maxbounty reports....what's going on?
      Have you waited an adequate amount of time for the leads to update? That might be what the issue is. Just as it was posted a couple years ago in this same thread for a similar issue, it's usually not an issue with the network. If the problem persists you should contact your Affiliate Manager at MaxBounty. If you need some assistance in getting in touch with them, feel free to PM me your Affiliate ID# and I'll let them know.

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    Hey Guys. What's the best scraping software for PPV?
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    You guys need to sign up to multiple networks and split test the same offers between the networks to find out which is best for your traffic. Also test offers that are similar, but different brands, etc...

    I recently tested 2 life offers and one made 5X the money as the other.
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    Depending on what the offer is, you could try solo ads, but it's only effective in certain niches. If you try solo ads, you should run it through a squeeze page before sending people to the offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ahmed Mahdy
      Hello

      this is so weird

      since yesterday i got not conversions and i get usually from 6 to 10 per day 2 days and not even one conversion only clicks and using facebook traffic like always
      so what do you think the problem is ?
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