What Do You Dislike About CPA Networks?

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Just wanted to hear some of your input of what you DONT like about affiliate networks? Are the account managers helpful? Payment terms slow?

What needs to be improved to make you more money - I'd love to hear some feedback (as I'm sure other network owners will too).
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    One thing that I havent had a lot of trouble with but some people do is communication between AM and publisher. Sometimes affiliates may be promoting an offer slightly against the terms of the offer without even realizing it and they do this for a month and then get their commissions denied. If they are using paid traffic, that really stinks.

    Perhaps on the network side, you can have some kind of alert to check peoples campaigns when they hit a certain threshold to prevent this from happening.


    People like payment by Paypal which many networks only give to publishers pushing larger volume. Would be nice if the threshold there was lower.

    Most of all, helpful affiliate managers. I hate when I get an affiliate manager that is not helpful and its like pulling teeth to try and get any information out of them.


    Also, a good interface is great. Some networks have interfaces that are hard and annoying to navigate. Even bigger networks, not mentioning any names here!
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    • Profile picture of the author SiddFisher
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      Also, a good interface is great. Some networks have interfaces that are hard and annoying to navigate. Even bigger networks, not mentioning any names here!
      Some people don't care about external appearances as long as there is good material inside.

      The thing I don't like about CPA networks is their approval system. If you check out the guides that you can find spread out all over the internet, you'll see that the magic words of approval are:

      I drive traffic via PPC, PPV and I have a huge list of double opt-ins in this-and-that niche.
      What if you aren't actually doing this? Are we supposed to lie or something?

      I haven't tried applying to many networks yet (I'm on 1 big and 2 small networks, which I don't use), but looking at the suggestions, I'm scared of getting denied because I use free traffic for all my marketing.

      What if I have a very secret method of driving traffic to some offers and I don't want to tell the AM my technique? Will my application be denied if I refuse to share a lot of details of my marketing techniques?

      Dr. Faizan....I'm guessing you're trying to apply to Neverblue. I know how it feels man. The best networks always feel out of reach. Try developing decent relationships here with experienced guys and I'm sure you'll get in. I'm also planning on applying to NB, but I'm trying to build a decent website on a certain vertical so that I can show it to them.
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      • Profile picture of the author renjain
        Originally Posted by SiddFisher View Post

        The thing I don't like about CPA networks is their approval system. If you check out the guides that you can find spread out all over the internet, you'll see that the magic words of approval are:

        I drive traffic via PPC, PPV and I have a huge list of double opt-ins in this-and-that niche.

        What if you aren't actually doing this? Are we supposed to lie or something?
        I do drive traffic via PPC & organic rankings and do have a large list of double opt-ins - I still got rejected!

        I dislike the approval process as well. Obviously, there need to be standards, but when multiple people are writing guides on the answers you need to provide verbatim and the 'tricks' you need to use to get into a network, something is not right.
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        • Profile picture of the author themindvoid
          i actually found it easy to get accepted to ALL the networks for which i applied. All i did was call them over the phone a couple days after, and they just asked if i had a site and how i planned to drive traffic. I even told them I was new , and they still approved me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dr.faizan
        SIDDFISHER - I tried to apply almost every top network like neverblue, azoogle, clickbooth but always got rejected. I don't mind promoting offers for any good network which is legit, good tracking and pays on time. It is not just about the top networks even every other network is doing the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr.faizan
    For few of the offers I promoted on certain networks the tracking was not at all good. The offers were correctly targeted and I am sure I got many leads too but they were not shown in the tracking report. I think this is where they have to improve.

    Second thing which irks to me is most of them don't allow publishers from India. I agree that there are not many big marketers in India but there are very great and world's top bloggers from India. I am a victim of such thing. I was willing to promote offers from certain networks but they didn't approved my account because I stay in Indian and I don't have reference of anyone. It really irks and at the same time hurts that why I need a reference when any USA guy don't really need any reference. If they want they can interview me and ask any marketing related question then if they don't like my way of promotion then they can disapprove my account. But here just because I am from India I am being denied the account. This thing really irks warriors. Infact it hurts. Even I want to earn money. Even I want to be a big marketer. My words may sound odd to you but tell me if you were in my place how you would have felt? When you have all the qualities in you but you are being denied for something odd reason how you feel? Today I want to work hard. I want to show my talent. I want to show what I can do but I have no opportunity no chance. I don't understand why don't they approve my account and if they don't like my work then bann me no issues in that?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
    Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

    Just wanted to hear some of your input of what you DONT like about affiliate networks? Are the account managers helpful? Payment terms slow?

    What needs to be improved to make you more money - I'd love to hear some feedback (as I'm sure other network owners will too).

    AM's only seem to want to spend time with top producers.
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  • Profile picture of the author rdxsumo
    I think its because the audience has learned tricks of the trade that harm affiliate networks. Obviously these restrictions are for the affiliates to remain honest etc. Most affiliate managers are fine and cooperative as compared to networks which are either new or have small client base.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    I feel that account managers need to help affiliates build, optimize and scale campaigns other than just suggesting offers (just my opinion).

    Weekly pay should be a standard. From the beginning, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      I feel that account managers need to help affiliates build, optimize and scale campaigns other than just suggesting offers (just my opinion).

      Weekly pay should be a standard. From the beginning, too.


      Ryan,

      I know many networks like to lengthen payout terms to ensure that lead quality is good at least until you have a history with the network.

      Coming from a networks point of view, is it feasible to give everybody weekly payout even if they are brand new?

      Just curious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Freeman77
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      I feel that account managers need to help affiliates build, optimize and scale campaigns other than just suggesting offers (just my opinion).

      Weekly pay should be a standard. From the beginning, too.
      Ryan -- your network's weekly payout have been huge for me. I'm getting weekly wires, and that's why I stick mostly with you guys.

      As a member of several networks, I get info overload in my inbox -- too many suggestions on what to promote.

      I would like it if my affiliate managers could take the time to look at my performance, and proactively offer pay-bumps & suggestions on how to expand my campaigns.
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    • Profile picture of the author axina
      I think the webmasters will like an affiliate program the best, if it can help them to earn more and more $$$$.



      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      I feel that account managers need to help affiliates build, optimize and scale campaigns other than just suggesting offers (just my opinion).

      Weekly pay should be a standard. From the beginning, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author KC-Coop
    Lack of communication from the typical affiliate manager is the worst part of most networks. The only time I hear from 98% of my affiliate managers is when they have some new hot offer that they want me to push.

    I like to see weekly emails about new offers, offers that are doing well, etc. Besides that though - I don't want 35 IM's, 10 phone calls and a god damn certified letter to my house about hot offers(bit of an exaggeration, but sometimes it feels like it).

    Not saying that this is specifically an issue with EWA - Ryan's always very helpful and typically online all the time. Just a general issue for most CPA networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    I'm pretty happy with most networks, but mashed up epc's and conversion rates are something that bug me slightly. It'd be cool to have conversion rates and epc's and such based on various traffic sources.

    I personally like a lot of engagement from the network as long as it's legit and not hype.
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  • Profile picture of the author Freeman77
    One thing that would be cool is if the links had automatic geo-redirection built in.

    So, for example, if a user from Canada clicks the link of a dating offer, he's automatically directed to the Canadian offer (if available).
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    • Profile picture of the author cgtarga1
      Originally Posted by Freeman77 View Post

      One thing that would be cool is if the links had automatic geo-redirection built in.

      So, for example, if a user from Canada clicks the link of a dating offer, he's automatically directed to the Canadian offer (if available).
      NBlue does this, at least on the download offer I'm running. Found out by accident. THOUGHT I was buying just US traffic, but lo and behold NB is paying out a few as India, etc. Not too often, but every now and then. Seems Yahoo was giving me whatever traffic they feel like...

      I added a new UK/Canada ad campaign with the same affiliate link, and NB picks them right out as UK/Canada.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    Only thing I don't like about EWA in particular is the server speed. Everything else has been pretty good.

    To the poster above me, I like using my own geo-redirection scripts so I can choose which offers they see.
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    • Profile picture of the author darrenovic
      #1 i f*cking hate it when my AM told me the average epc and CR is totally way off from the figure even i tried to force profit the campaign for few more weeks and end up losing more money.

      #2 i f*cking hate it when the offer doesnt have a volume capped and got redirect OUT OF NO WHERE(especially when i'm sleeping) and i'm not informed by my AM who knows i run big volume on those offers. You thought you're making big fat checks but you just break even or lose money end of the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author harro1
    Most network does not pay via paypal,
    i would love to see ewa paying via paypal sooner or later,
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  • Profile picture of the author indexphp
    scammy offers
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  • Profile picture of the author darrenovic
    Reveal the epc and cr of all offers plz. i'm sick of bugging my AM for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpa-money
    i hate when they are shaving leads from all kind of crazy reasons. i think they have good profit from shaving......
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  • Profile picture of the author bbyau
    To me, a responsive affiliate manager is important. Some affiliate manager either do not reply email or slow in replying. But of course there are good ones too who even follow up and ask me whether the problem has been solved.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

    Just wanted to hear some of your input of what you DONT like about affiliate networks? Are the account managers helpful? Payment terms slow?

    What needs to be improved to make you more money - I'd love to hear some feedback (as I'm sure other network owners will too).
    Being called once a week asked to bring more traffic in

    Affiliate Manager not owning an issue (if your my contact for the network, take ownership, if something is messed up, don't give me excuses that it's someone else, go out of your way to fix it)

    Slow Payment Terms

    Late Payments

    Offers being redirected/expired without notice

    Payout decreases

    Affiliate Manager turnover

    Not being able to get in touch with people on evenings/weekends


    That's all I can think of for now
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  • Profile picture of the author styla786
    Cost-Per-Action or CPA is the hottest new way to make money online. The promise of CPA is incredible profit margins. It is not uncommon to see an 80% return on investment (or ROI). In some cases people have reported up to 800% ROI. The downside of CPA is that with these incredible margins comes a lot of competition and unethical behavior. So I'll give you the skinny on those networks that pay you on time and help you get started as a CPA marketer.
    My recommendations are:

    1. NeverBlue
    2. MaxBounty
    3. ClickBooth
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    • Profile picture of the author socomplete
      #1 For me is faster access to my revenue. Its easy to scale up once you can get a good cash flow and payouts for investing in advertising. Its 2010, networks should be able to payout at least every week if you reach $100 in good traffic.

      I don't like staring at X amount of dollars for weeks when it could be doing something.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketme
    I agree with thenewguy.. lots of the time the AM's wont help you if you aren't making a ton of money. If they helped the little guys more maybe we'd become big guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr.faizan
    Even I faced problems with tracking url.. They always give reasons that there might be something wrong with the pixels,,
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    EWA will be building in PayPal payments in the coming months because of your response on this thread - thanks guys!
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    • Profile picture of the author axina
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      EWA will be building in PayPal payments in the coming months because of your response on this thread - thanks guys!

      I do not like EWA. My account can not get accessed with the password.

      When I try to get the link of reset password and click the "forgot password" button. It seems they send me the email. But I have never received.

      I have email, AIM, phone EWA, and ask them to check my account.

      However, no one reply me for THREE WEEKS.

      Do you think this is a good affiliate network?

      If my account is not inactive, why do not they email me and let me know?
      If my account is still live, why can not I received the password reset email, why no one help me for THREE WEEKS???
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    • Profile picture of the author harro1
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      EWA will be building in PayPal payments in the coming months because of your response on this thread - thanks guys!
      Hey man thanks a lot,
      paypal payments are going to be good for both you and publishers,
      thanks again!

      Originally Posted by axina View Post

      I do not like EWA. My account can not get accessed with the password.

      When I try to get the link of reset password and click the "forgot password" button. It seems they send me the email. But I have never received.

      I have email, AIM, phone EWA, and ask them to check my account.

      However, no one reply me for THREE WEEKS.

      Do you think this is a good affiliate network?

      If my account is not inactive, why do not they email me and let me know?
      If my account is still live, why can not I received the password reset email, why no one help me for THREE WEEKS???
      Seems strange, ewa has one of the best supporting staff, in most cases they reply instantly.
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    • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      EWA will be building in PayPal payments in the coming months because of your response on this thread - thanks guys!
      Coming months?

      You're on Linktrust right?

      It's already available to you...

      PaymentType Format: Check, Wire, PayPal, DirectDeposit
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  • Profile picture of the author lina75
    How do I know Who is my AM on EWA?
    What form to fill out for international members before getting paid?
    Where do I get them?
    Is there a threshold for payment in EWA SYSTEM?
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  • Profile picture of the author mpchekuri
    Less chances to get converted which only will earn for us
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  • Profile picture of the author smolodoy
    Ewa is one of my favorite networks, love the offers specially the health offers, wish they had epc stats, banners and more health offers I wouldn't mind...
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  • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
    i hate affiliate managers who don't respond or help
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  • Profile picture of the author keithoz88
    It would be better if non US participants could be paid throgh Paypal as it takes a looooooooooong time to get a cheque in the mail and then wait for it to clear (not to mention the outragous fees banks can charge!)
    Paying non US citizens this way should present no problems from a US tax perspective either.
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  • dotGirish and mtmjohn I understand completely what you mean by this. When I was a marketer this was one of my biggest gripes about certain networks. Inactive AM's and Late Payments are a complete turn-off to anyone regardless of how long they have been in the industry. It's especially disheartening to brand new affiliates if this is how they are treated out of the gate. It could even be enough to completely discourage them from pushing forward and actually realizing the massive potential in affiliate marketing.

    That's why I try and make it a point to be proactive about contacting my affiliates whether it's a simple email nudge to see how you are doing or to see if you need assistance or more offers in different niches. After being on the affiliate side and transferring over to the Affiliate Manager side I treat my affiliates how I wish I was always treated when I was with other networks.

    As far as approvals after being on both sides I can say a simple phone call if you have not been approved within at least 48hrs should quickly clear up the situation very quickly. Talking to an Affiliate Manager shouldn't be a feared phone call as some affiliates may feel it is, but we are here as an ally to help you prosper.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrewClement
    Rob hit the nail on the head with everything that he has said. It is nice to see that more and more proven affiliates are becoming affiliate managers.

    We are doing our best to make sure the needs of affiliates are met, rather than you relying on an AM that has never done online marketing before or could care less. When it comes to getting information, sometimes all you need to do is be upfront and ask, or at least that is how things get done through me. Give me a shout, call, email, and I will do whatever I can to meet your needs

    AMen on the phone call. Don't fear it, even if English isnt your first language. Trust me, we are used to it and don't mind at all as long as you know what you are doing.
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