12 {{ upvoteCount | shortNum }}
12 {{ upvoteCount | shortNum }}

Magic bullet Amish

by soboer
9 replies
Amish Shah is relaunching his magic bullet system. I received a mail from him where he shows his campaigns and his traffic source in a case study.
His traffic source: PPV Trafficvance
His Cpa offer: email submit

So far I'm not impressed.To get accepted to Trafficvance you need a refferal and 2000 dollar entree fee.

But I must admit I learned a lot of Amish over the years.
#amish #bullet #magic
  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by soboer View Post

    Amish Shah is relaunching his magic bullet system. I received a mail from him where he shows his campaigns and his traffic source in a case study.
    His traffic source: PPV Trafficvance
    His Cpa offer: email submit

    So far I'm not impressed.To get accepted to Trafficvance you need a refferal and 2000 dollar entree fee.

    But I must admit I learned a lot of Amish over the years.
    The reason PPV (TrafficVance) has become this expensive is because it is being abused by a lot of affiliates. It also prevents people from bailing or defaulting on payment, which seems to be the case a lot these days. Just a precaution.

    But generally speaking, PPV traffic is junk traffic. If you can find an offer that accepts junk/low quality leads, go for it.

    Any questions just let me know
    Nick
    Signature
    Read my incredible story: www.affiliatechamp.co.uk
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3137285].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JGK
    The hype around products is becoming so predictable...and sadly (in my experience) unlikely to be true. However the principles he talks about seem solid enough...automation and putting multiple "tests" in place but you need capital to do that to pay for that traffic first.
    I didnt know about Traffic Vance so thanks Soboer.
    I assume you also need access to CPA offers...I attempted to sign up for 5 CPA networks and only one let me in...but I suppose that's enough to at least get started.
    What is an "email submit" campaign?
    Signature

    John G. Kelly Author of the #1 Amazon bestseller Stress Free Internet Marketing for Businesses: 7 Steps to Grow Your Profits and Financial Peace of Mind"

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3138595].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author miami
      There are some very interesting posts in this thread. I started to respond and ended up with all this! Hope this helps somebody.

      -------------
      OPINIONS
      ------------

      Some from people with less than glowing referrals who have never seen the program...

      Some talking about the traffic from PPV like they know all about it...

      Well...

      We do have the program...

      And we have been buying PPV traffic since we bought the program last January. (As well as PPC, and working SEO for ourselves and local businesses)

      Here is OUR experience.

      PPV traffic is crap.

      And PPV traffic is good.

      ----------------
      Fact
      ----------------

      PPV traffic comes from computers that have adware installed on them from someone on that computer who downloaded a free game, menu bar, smiley tool bar or the like.

      You have to remember the whole family could be using that same computer!

      So the traffic could be Mom or Dad or the kids - anybody who uses that machine.

      And there are millions of them.

      PPV is simply bidding on keywords and URLS where you want to show an ad. This ad pops up or under (depends on network) when a user types in the keyword or url.

      Then if you know how to write ads (graphics and copy) the user will click through to your offer.

      Offer can be anything from clickbank to an email submit for 'free' gift card. If you convert the ad network pays you anywhere from $.75 to $100's of dollars.

      PPV traffic - with the right offers (and there are some good offers) converts well enough to call it a decent business.

      And there are some I know who make a serious living from it.

      ---------------
      Advertiser Networks
      ---------------

      Getting into Advertiser Networks when you are new takes a bit of marketing. That is- telling something that may not be true. For instance you just tell them you are already in other networks!

      Of course you have to know how to speak the language!

      -----------------
      Our experience
      -----------------

      Magic Bullet for us was a good buy. It let us get up to speed on marketing and tracking that otherwise would have taken us a long time to do.

      In the same vein remember Frank Kern's Mass Control? Paid for that - and it was worth it - even though it was way overpriced - but because of the nuggets we got from it - and the relationships built through it.

      Same with Product Launch Formula and Stompernet and ....

      Ten of thousands spent for two huge returns on investment.
      1. Shortcuts it would take us time and money to learn.
      2. The relationships built with others who bought in as well.

      We tell our MBS story on our blog at social-media-marketing-machines.com

      ------------------------
      Recommendation
      ------------------------

      Take note though. MBS is not for you if you don't have any money to start with - and if you are not really serious about using it. This is not a little course you sit down for a couple of hours a day for a week and you are done.

      This is a business model that takes everything you have to be successful.

      We recommend it - to the right person.

      And the marketing language is no worse than what I see in the WSO's. How many of those have we bought?

      Again - it is only as good as the person using it!

      Hope this helps. (Don't mean to throw any stones in my glass house here!)
      Signature

      Always looking for PPV and affiliate mentor/masterminds... Let's trade stories!

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3187487].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Interestingly, the MBS Keyword expander has a very robust engine and has helped me in my SEO in creating adsense sites.

    CT
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3187505].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Originally Posted by soboer View Post

    Amish Shah is relaunching his magic bullet system. I received a mail from him where he shows his campaigns and his traffic source in a case study.
    His traffic source: PPV Trafficvance
    His Cpa offer: email submit

    So far I'm not impressed.To get accepted to Trafficvance you need a refferal and 2000 dollar entree fee.

    But I must admit I learned a lot of Amish over the years.
    I am sure you could learn lots of things from Amish . He really knows his stuff.
    Signature
    CPA Game Changer - Coming Very Soon !

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3187558].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    It can be good stuff, but the problem is that, usually, it's a mistake for a beginner to buy very expensive products. Most people are always buying stuff and learning, but they never take action and let their own experiences teach them some lessons. If you're still not making money online, it's probably a lot better you invest this money testing campaigns on Facebook or another platform instead of just buying another product, you would learn much more and, hopefully, get part of your investment back.


    William
    Signature
    Steal My Profit Strategy



    >> Download Now <<
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[3188606].message }}

Trending Topics