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black or white?

by thomas1984
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ok, would you consider going to sites like freelancer and paying for x amount of leads black hat or white hat? Now consider this the freelancer your using is sending tones of real visitors to your offers and the network allows brokering and are happy with the leads, now is it black hat? would you do it? what if you could constantly make 300% ROI?:confused:
#black #white
  • Profile picture of the author MitchKid
    Sounds like a definite no go to me. However, to eliminate all doubt why don't you ask your AM about it? Explain exactly what you want to do and they will say yes or no. Anyone here can tell you yes or no, but the only person that really matters in regard to this is your AM.
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    • Profile picture of the author dragoncpa
      Originally Posted by vanilladutch13 View Post

      Sounds like a definite no go to me. However, to eliminate all doubt why don't you ask your AM about it? Explain exactly what you want to do and they will say yes or no. Anyone here can tell you yes or no, but the only person that really matters in regard to this is your AM.
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  • Profile picture of the author corsleymaxwell
    Tell them straight to the point...of what you want to do!


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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    What are the freelancers doing to get the leads though?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      What are the freelancers doing to get the leads though?

      This is the real question. If they are simply filling out the offers or some how diluting the value of the lead, then its a no-no. If they are simply acting as a sub-affiliate and getting solid leads, then I don't see anything wrong with it (even though it may technically break the TOS)

      So it's more about lead quality than anything. You need to look at the whole CPA process and all parties involved to really determine if a creative method like this is a good thing to pursue, is ethical, and is a good business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author wangxiaoer
    Tell them straight to the point...of what you want to do!
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  • Profile picture of the author justscrewit
    the only caution i would throw to you is be careful. because why wouldnt these guys want to make all the money themselves? just throwing that out there
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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    Thats not blackhat on your part because your just paying for them but how is the freelancer getting the leads?
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  • Profile picture of the author Omid
    I have heard if this strategy before...

    Most of networks have no problem with this as long as the offer allows brokering! but the point is most of freelancers do it using proxies and you will have problems with your network in near future! I have heard of someone lost 3 of his CPA accounts using this method!

    There is no problem with the strategy, be careful! Also, if someone is able to drive traffic to your offers then why would he want to promote YOUR offers?

    ~ Omid
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by thomas1984 View Post

    ok, would you consider going to sites like freelancer and paying for x amount of leads black hat or white hat? Now consider this the freelancer your using is sending tones of real visitors to your offers and the network allows brokering and are happy with the leads, now is it black hat? would you do it? what if you could constantly make 300% ROI?:confused:
    It's really neither, it's it's own thing and not allowed by most offers
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    It is not allowed with most CPA networks , because you are paying someone , who may not have an interest on the offer which ultimaytly doesn't have real value to the advertiser .

    Some CPA networks could allow this and it is best to verify it by asking your affiliate manager .
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

      It is not allowed with most CPA networks , because you are paying someone , who may not have an interest on the offer which ultimaytly doesn't have real value to the advertiser .

      Some CPA networks could allow this and it is best to verify it by asking your affiliate manager .

      As Mike suggests, you can't simply pay people to fill out offers. You always need to look at the whole supply chain. If you are cheating any part of the chain, the system doesn't work. So even though you can try and cheat the system in the short term, its certainly not a viable long term strategy.

      A business should be designed to be sustainable!
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