IMGrind,Six Months from Today etc

IMO, no (from personal experience). You can find everything you need in these forums, and even more because you have hundreds or even thousands more members replying with feedback. vs only the few hundred that pay to gain access to the paid forums. My advice would be take advantage of a free trial if they have one, but be aware to cancel before they charge you credit card.

Ya take advantage of the trial... I can confirm I don't share everything in these forums as I do on SMFT. Fact is, I have over 1,700 posts on SMFT.

Pay forums are bunk. I've considered doing one, but i'd feel evil.

Ya they're crap and evil except that something I learned when I joined PPC Coach (which was not shared on wkdfireee or warriorforum or whatever), lead directly to my first 6 figures in my first 3 months online.

Yes, I have my own paid forum, but that doesn't change the facts from above.

And lol @ calling paid forums crap but then linking to a wso in your sig. Really?

As for evil... promoting specific cpa networks on your blog might be evil. Selling info products might be evil. Promoting 95% of cpa offers might be evil. Selling is evil. Marketing is evil... ya we're all devils here. lol.

Sorry, I had to add... I dunno what this high and mighty attitude in the CPA industry is all about? CPA guys HATE on "gurus", just totally hate on them... but will turn around without even blinking and promote a bizopp offer to some stay at home mom wanting a legit way to make money online, or a weight loss offer that doesn't work for ****.

"Oh, but I only do dating!!!" .... right, so there really are (467) women in MY area tonight that wanna get laid??? Wow.. I cant believe it, I'll join up asap and hopefully I don't get spammed beyond belief by fake profiles asking me to join the premium service.

"BUT, but! I promote gaming!!"... awesome, so downloading this game isn't going to put any adware on my system. And registering won't mean my info is brokered out and mailed ad nauseum. Good to know.

lol, come on Pace, you of all guys knows this industry is shadier then a lot... most people don't go down conversion paths to see the sordid details. I think charging for information is the least evil thing you can do if you're associated with the CPA industry.

Ya see, the problem is, most marketers look at conversions as numbers... that was an actual person that filled that out guys.

I'm not saying don't promote. I've pushed rebills and such. But don't go accusing gurus and info marketers of scamming when we're building the lists of advertisers all day long.

Heh some of the replys here crack me up. Has anyone used the forum he is talking about (or similar ones)?

I've been a member of the majority of them at one point or another. If you're serious about driving traffic and trying to pick up tips (especially if they're one of the ones that specialize in a traffic source) then it is easily worth it.

And if they have a trial then it should be a no brainer. What do you have to lose. Couple bucks? Big deal. If you're worried about losing $5 then you're not cut out for running a real business.

And I love the warrior forum, but "everything you need" is not here. Especially when it comes to driving traffic at a higher level with specific traffic sources.

If you want to get to doing the big numbers then focus on being in the top 2%. The top 2%ers never stop learning and stay on top of everything. Constant improvement.

Gotta think big.

And if you aren't going to use the information on these sites then no membership anywhere is going to be a good deal.

Get the information and then implement.

LOL @ one of those paid forum owners with his independant, unbiased review of paid forums.

I have joined a few, and remained a member for a few months - some at $67 a month. I have not tried PPC Coach, however.

Having been a member of paid forums, I can tell you that industry blogs are a better resource. affbuzz is all you need. And, I have nothing to profit from my comment.. like some of the other posters

@ChadH, you're right about the industry having shady people.

Honestly, I'm just tired of Gurus selling their crap to people who can't afford it. The secret is always hard work, talking to people, and keeping up with what is happening in the industry.

Could a paid forum be a way to keep up with what is going on, I guess so... My apologies, just so used to gurus selling their secrets (the secret is selling crap)

Charles, i didnt hide the fact did i. Good to see you took the sig out. And you're right, i was biased for that type of training since i started pulling good numbers as a direct result of what i learned from one post and a lot of hard work.

And pace, thx for the reply... Obviously there is junk sold in a lot of industries. The IM industry is sketchy as hell as well.

I've been a member of several paid forums (affplaybook, stackthatmoney etc). Well worth the price, in my personal experience with them. But simply joining these forums won't make you rich. To succeed with affiliate marketing, you have to apply what you learn and take massive action.

Anyways, this is a smart advice, lol

If you read and put in the work, they are worth the cost involved, in the grand scheme of things what you pay monthly for these sites is very minimal considering the potential of income you could be making if you follow the information provided

My Opinion warrior forum has been the best just search find something you want to do and approach it and don't stop taking action.

I've been able to take a look at all of the top forums out.

Kind of wished I saved my money. A lot of "tight lipped" guys there, as much of this industry is. No one is going to tell you much on those forums. Yeah maybe they will share 1 or 2 nuggets but those nuggets damn sure aren't worth $150.

My take is find a local IM group on meetup.com and join it. People offline are FAR more helpful than online.

If you cannot afford that, then just do a good Google search of this very forum, tons of nuggets here FOR FREE if you're willing to go back and find them.

Disclaimer: I have nothing to profit/gain from you taking my advice or not. I don't own a paid forum, and don't plan on starting one. Buy my products or don't buy them, either way it has nothing to do with this post.

First, I'm bias as hell because I've been doing paid forums since 2007 so keep that in mind. I've got one of the oldest ones out there and one of newest ones too. I love paid forums. I've made literally millions from them over the years. I enjoy running them and I enjoy helping people succeed. It's very rewarding. People who don't mentor anyone don't get that part at all, they just try to say "those who can't do teach".

LOL

I agree that they are not for everyone. They're more geared to people who are struggling to figure things out. Having access to people who have been there and done that is priceless. If you join with the mindset of quitting right away, don't even bother joining, you're not going to benefit one ounce from them. They're not courses or wsos or things you buy to copy what the guy says or blindly follow their step by step guide. They're interactive entities. You take action, struggle, get help, succeed.

Look at any offline job that requires an apprenticeship first. They do that because you can learn a lot in books, but taking action and having someone to guide you is invaluable. Doctors have to do 5 to 7 years residency before they're full Doctors. Electricians have to apprentice with full electricians, so do millwrights, welders, plumbers and even when I was a financial advisor I spent 3 months at my mentors office learning from him. (That's after writing all the exams and getting licensed).

Pro basketball players have coaches. Tiger Woods has about 5 coaches including a swing coach. Tennis players have coaches. Baseball, hell any sport has coaches, especially at the pro level. Now why on earth would a coach be necessary if a guy like Lebron James is the player being coached? Shouldn't they just get rid of the coach, I mean obviously he can't dunk like Lebron or hit a 3 pointer like Lebron or block a shot like Lebron so what good is he? If you can answer that, you get it.

So why would you think it's any different in a very confusing world of affiliate marketing?

It's not.

Paid forums provide places that offer mentors and coaching that you will never get on a free forum ever. Blogs offer some useful information once in a while, but most are built just to sell ad spots on. Some bloggers use link bait and other shifty techniques, to inflate their traffic stats so they can charge more for banner spots.

Anyway, if you ask me if they're worth, it, my answer is they definitely are. I've trained over 8,700 affiliates over the past 4+ years and even some of the current paid forum owners were once members of one of my sites when they were just starting out. Paid forums go through cycles with the herd. They started off being awesome, then went through and dry spell and are now popular again with people who used to bash them opening their own now.

So I'm a big believer in mentors, coaches and paid forums provide exactly that. If they don't provide that then don't stay around. If you don't like communities built around one central purpose, then don't join.

You cannot please everyone all the time no matter what you do. The key is not worrying about what others think as opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one and most serve no real purpose.

I think I'll go with Will (PPC-Coach) on this one. And Chad. In fact I'm going to join up with SixMonthFromToday. I can come back and comment here later after joining to let you know how its going. Bottom line: I plan to focus on paid traffic this year and Chad & Will know how to do that stuff well.

I've joined many coaching programs over the past year+ and some have helped, while others just left my wallet lighter. So I understand why some people are skeptical. The thing you have to weigh is this: will I get the help/support I need to help me over the hurdles/stumbling blocks along the way? That's it. A good coaching program or paid forum should help with that. If it doesn't - then quit paying for it.

In my opinion everything you'll ever need to succeed is right here on WF. It's a great community here. With that said I've heard a lot of great things about PPC Coach. At the end of the day if you have the money give it a go and see for yourself. You'll never know unless you try.

No need to pay for a forum all the information you already need is here. The people on this forum and various others can give good information to help answer the questions you need answered

omg. some people's opinions are hilarious.

Yes everything you need is here at WF. But it's all at the local library too?
It's rare to become profitable quickly/efficiently at X (insert career/job here) by learning everything at a library.

If you can afford a paid forum, makes sense to use it, IF AND ONLY IF it's actually good i.e. provides actual mentoring etc.

I want a mentor, I want to fast track to the wealth - I do NOT want to dick around TRAWLING thru good, bad and ugly WF posts all day.

Some people cannot afford it, and that's that. So then you will have to stick to your "public library" But you cannot knock GOOD paid forums.

There is no free lunch in the world

I've a lot of my business skills from books to be honest.

I've got a business degree. I don't use any of it in my business really. "Book learning" is not real world learning. Business is not done how they teach it in university. If I had a time machine I would have skipped university and gone right into my own business as fast as I could.

I only went to school for 2 years, but there is difference in getting an education, and reading books to me at least.

Just a few books that have made me a ton of money...

Ca$hvertising - The best ad copy book known to man.
Millionaire Fastlane - A guide book by an IMer that makes 5 million a month.
How to Get Rich - A great book on how to go for the millions.

These were some of the most influenceable books in my life. I would not be successful today without them.

I read about 2 books a month.

I've been a member of IMGrind private forum just recently and all I can say is that there's a very big difference with regards to the amount of resources that one can find over there compared to here and other popular IM forums (that I know of). So if one is starting out with IM with no or little money to spend, I suggest to start here and with other popular and free forums as well but if one is serious and want to take their IM stuff to the next level (if you have the budget), then you should consider joining them (that's if they still allow) lol.

No need to pay for it. Especially if you're just starting. YOu can set up the most basic sales funnel, start collecting emails and monetize that list.


You don't need to pay someone a monthly fee when you can get what you need here or other FREE forums.

Hey guys.

What do you suggest me, for learning CPA (free traffic) business as a newbie, to join :

- IMGrind

- Six Months From Today

Thanks for help.

I tried Six Month from Today for a month, looked like the guys were a lot more active producing material a year a ago, still they do reply to your posts and there is a fair amount of exclusive tutorial videos worth a look.
Just one insightful tip can more than makeup the program cost for people making big ad spends.
Understandably the guys have more profitable things to do with their time.

So, IMGrind isnt for the newbie CPA marketers ? Too advanced ?

So you think that in Six month from today I will get the quality and newbie friendly step by step tutorial for CPA ?

Thanks.....

It's worth it. Is it worth paying every month? Probably not.

Ultimately you want to work more and read less.

Guys, Thanks for informations.

Do you suggest me to join William Souzas CPA Lab ? Will be maybe better than paid forum ?

I think that maybe CPA focused program, with reputated owner, like William Souza is, maybe be better than paid forum.

Im interested into CPA - free traffic...

What do you guys think ?

Thanks for helping answer my question.

peterklepec