SHARE PPC EXPENSES WITH ME:

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hello warriors:
as you all know: making money with ppc is testing, testing, and testing
but, testing costs money to find the winner ad.
let us use this forum like the way it was supposed to be: we already share info. now, let us share expenses
looking for people to share ppc expenses.
1. we all use our separate accounts (adwords, 7 search etc.)
2. ppc will be set up by a ppc expert i hired from odesk
3. everyweek we put in $40-$50 dollars a day to test different ads.
4. we will see conversions and share data. (there is no failure in ppc world, we are buying data for our next campaign)
i belong to great ppc forums, www.stackthatmoney.com and others,
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION....................
SERIOUS PEOPLE ONLY: NEWBIES VERY WELCOME: I WILL TEACH YOU ALONG THE WAY:
#expenses #ppc #share
  • Profile picture of the author david15923
    For now I only have 150$ for 7search (which becomes like 200$ with the coupon) but at first I want to try it out for myself and gather date, reinvest the money made and make even more money, but for now Ill pass it. In the future I might reconsider...
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    ok, david , sounds good ...i am always looking for partners. i am doing google adwords first. stay intouch...we will share results.
    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author david15923
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      ok, david , sounds good ...i am always looking for partners. i am doing google adwords first. stay intouch...we will share results.
      thanks
      But how are do you promote on adwords?? More: What do you promote on adwords?

      Just curious....
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    You hired a PPC expert on ODesk? Hmm... Chances are that the guy can set up the campaign, but I doubt he will be able to do the optimization and the other marketing aspects properly.

    PPC experts are very expensive and it would be hard to hire one from a freelance site.


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    • Profile picture of the author Asper
      Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

      You hired a PPC expert on ODesk? Hmm... Chances are that the guy can set up the campaign, but I doubt he will be able to do the optimization and the other marketing aspects properly.

      PPC experts are very expensive and it would be hard to hire one from a freelance site.


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      Said perfectly.

      "you get what you pay for" good quote to live by.
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  • Profile picture of the author SCW19
    I do adwords and works well
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    he is actually a certified adwords ppc. he charges 20 per hour. from india....he seems good....i am sure he will doing alot better job than me. in the land of the blind, the man with 1 eye is king. i guess he is king for now lol. anyway, he has alot of ppc experience from his feedback.
    thanks guys
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    • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      he is actually a certified adwords ppc. he charges 20 per hour. from india....he seems good....i am sure he will doing alot better job than me. in the land of the blind, the man with 1 eye is king. i guess he is king for now lol. anyway, he has alot of ppc experience from his feedback.
      thanks guys
      You know what if you are looking for long term incomee stream you will have to do it yourself, You will lose at start but the person you are hiring he will lose too ... till he scales up your campgains .... I know its a bit disappointing but thats the fact believe me i have seen many people like you getting scammed now i am not saying he is a scammer or what so ever but this thing really couldn`t stop me from replying to your Thread that if he is a PPC Expert why he is on a freelancing website ? lets say he is doing well on PPC than why dont he do it all himeslf ?I can`t get it anyways i once your project is done i`ll highly appriciate you to post update here and prove us wrong but really i have seen many people hiring experts and than what happened at the end was that they just lost money ...SOrry if i dosappointed you what ever please don`t take it personal thats what my experience says

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author williamrs
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      he is actually a certified adwords ppc. he charges 20 per hour. from india....he seems good....i am sure he will doing alot better job than me. in the land of the blind, the man with 1 eye is king. i guess he is king for now lol. anyway, he has alot of ppc experience from his feedback.
      thanks guys
      Honestly, being AdWords Certified doesn't mean a lot in the practice. I have friends who are certified (the process is very simple, btw), but still can't succeed with CPA.

      A Certified Individual is a guy who knows how to use the AdWords tool, but it doesn't mean he is good with the marketing aspects that are essential for a campaign to become profitable.

      Also, you should consider learning this yourself. You will see that it will be very hard to split-test elements and run your campaigns if you have to pass everything to someone else and can't make the changes yourself.

      I'm not trying to be negative here, you're taking action and that's the most important part, I'm just trying to help you avoid further problems.


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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    williamsr, i apprecite that you are always there to give your professional advise. i have all of your wsos, they are great. you are a credit to this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Here's an idea for you assuming the business still lets you do something in particular which I will explain.

    I used Adbrite years ago. They allowed you to create something like 100 different versions of your ad. Just like ppc anywhere else. The assumption is they still let you do this and they may not so you have to check it out.

    What I used to do was find a good ad through testing and then take that ad over to Adwords and run it. Saves a lot of money because Adbrite is not as expensive as Adwords.

    Keep in mind that some markets may perform better/worse at either place. But it does not cost much to test and find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author HighSociety
    Hi,

    I'm not interested in spending $40-$50 on PPC, but I'd like to offer my conversion data for anyone who is interested and already has an ESTABLISHED PAID TRAFFIC SOURCE (whether that be PPC/CPV or MEDIA BUYING). I drive my traffic to CPA offers from my email lists, and this data will be very beneficial.

    If anyone is interested, I can start an email list an keep everyone informed on what's converting well and what is not.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author A87
    What network did you find your loan offer at? Do you have a landing page yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    LOL no sane person would do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

    hello warriors:
    as you all know: making money with ppc is testing, testing, and testing
    but, testing costs money to find the winner ad.
    let us use this forum like the way it was supposed to be: we already share info. now, let us share expenses
    looking for people to share ppc expenses.
    1. we all use our separate accounts (adwords, 7 search etc.)
    2. ppc will be set up by a ppc expert i hired from odesk
    3. everyweek we put in $40-$50 dollars a day to test different ads.
    4. we will see conversions and share data. (there is no failure in ppc world, we are buying data for our next campaign)
    i belong to great ppc forums, www.stackthatmoney.com and others,
    FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION....................
    SERIOUS PEOPLE ONLY: NEWBIES VERY WELCOME: I WILL TEACH YOU ALONG THE WAY:
    ? you have not thought this through or understood much at all here / in response to the proposal = no, no and another no

    many campaigns are run tighter than the kfc chicken secret herbs n spices and why would people just hand away $ to randoms

    $40 / $50 a day to test ads is really just beginner stuff many campaigns can take a much longer period to refine.

    SERIOUS PEOPLE ONLY: NEWBIES VERY WELCOME: I WILL TEACH YOU ALONG THE WAY


    ? what are you going to teach anyone ? you are a one armed blind organ grinder, where o desk from a distant shore is king - you your self are just following blindly and now we are to follow the blind as well.

    Rather than take on buddies just learn to do it yourself (see giggles starter guides) and invest your money until you have / make a profit, then use part of those profits to test out new campaigns and expand your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    First, credit to him for trying, he is taking action. The action is a bit different, but it's action so that's a good thing. Thinking outside the box is a positive thing.

    That said, I know guys who have tried this. They've tried outsourcing the campaign management to an expert, (apparently the expert you hired doesn't know you don't own logbook loans though) and they've failed. Logbook loans is a lead gen campaign, I hope you're getting a hefty pay per lead. If you take the pay per sale option, you'll be at the mercy of the company.

    I started out doing UK secured loans on Adwords. I know it well and the market still has not quite come back to where it was in 2005. I don't think it's a good time to use adwords for it yet. I say that because adwords is now too expensive and payments for leads are too low from the merchant to make it work.

    Once the UK economy starts coming back, lead prices will go up and it'll be worth it.

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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
    Banned
    I just hate this thing. never get any kind of good luck with PPC
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    Good that you're taking action. You can use the JV section on the forum to post an offer where you share expenses and profits in a particular ratio. Obviously you may have to offer a larger share of profits to your JV partner otherwise no one will show much interest.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    wow, what a backlash, now you guys are making think twice about doing this. i already did 2 days. anyway, just a learning experience for me and i apprecita all of your comments. you guys are right, i hate to be a t the mercy of anyone, including my ppc expert. i am already at the mercy of google, cpa network...this sucks, i need to control something...lol.
    i am learning as i go along.
    for ppc coach: my logbook coach says he is doing great with logbook loans. one thing with this forum, it is so damn confusing......nothing is straight forward....i guess if it was, everyone will doing it.....
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  • Profile picture of the author A87
    TristateMedia, what network did you get your loan offer from?
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Dude, just borrow money from your parents or use a CC.
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