How much money you are making from 7search!

14 years ago

Exactly $0 !

As a good PPC source for lead generation, 7search just doesnt have the quality required. Stick to 1st tier search engines like Adwords, YSM and BING. Its more expensive but a heck of a lot better in quality.

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mrjosco

14 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Exactly $0 !

As a good PPC source for lead generation, 7search just doesnt have the quality required. Stick to 1st tier search engines like Adwords, YSM and BING. Its more expensive but a heck of a lot better in quality.

Any questions just let me know,
Nick

There is a tendency on this forum (and everywhere in life for that matter) to assume your way is the right way, simply because it works.

If your way works it is not THE right way, but simply A right way. Many people make money with 7search. You have to test the waters for yourself.

I have a campaign running on 7search. It is in a small niche with very targeted keywords. I maximize my spending for this small niche at about $8 per week. I average about $65 in sales. So my net profit, per week, is about $58.

This, of course, is doing the 'stupid' method of direct linking an affiliate offer.

I also use 7search to build my list. I have a pretty mediocre squeeze page that converts at about 14% for my opt in list. I am paying about .05 per visitor from 7search and getting an opt in for an average price of .35.

These people are opening my follow ups. The list is too young to determine profitability - but to say 7search isn't good enough is not always true.

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smokey58

13 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Exactly $0 !

As a good PPC source for lead generation, 7search just doesnt have the quality required. Stick to 1st tier search engines like Adwords, YSM and BING. Its more expensive but a heck of a lot better in quality.

Any questions just let me know,
Nick

I agree with you. I was promoting a health and fitness offer with an opt in page. I tried 7 search, spent 100$, and not one conversion or opt in. I had better result with SEO.

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minigem

14 years ago

$0 too

I don't use 2nd tier networks since they less quality traffic. But it doesn't mean you can't earn big amount on them. Some CPA guys are raking 4 figures a day on 7search. They have cheaper clicks than 1st tier networks.

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

Depends on niche i have been using 7search since a year now and IMO their volume is no doubt low, but ROI i got there is simply awesome :p To find winners you need to test and collect data on what works and what not

Just understand that its not all about creating a campaign and expecting money to fall from sky you will need to tweak and monitor your campaigns to make them work

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by speedylikesKJ

Depends on niche i have been using 7search since a year now and IMO their volume is no doubt low, but ROI i got there is simply awesome :p To find winners you need to test and collect data on what works and what not

Just understand that its not all about creating a campaign and expecting money to fall from sky you will need to tweak and monitor your campaigns to make them work

People always say they make great ROI on 7search after they figure it out
but I have never once heard anyone say they are making X dollars per day.

spend 2 bucks a day return 3 is a 50% ROI sure
but is that worth your time

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by minigem

But it doesn't mean you can't earn big amount on them. Some CPA guys are raking 4 figures a day on 7search. They have cheaper clicks than 1st tier networks.

How you can earn, for example just looking now popular keyword

"sport bra" have 25 click estimate per month

Are you kidding me?

"Laptop Computer" have 121 clicks per month estimate..

How much money can you make even if all those 121 clicks are yours? $5 per month?

Word "tomato" returns 7 clicks per month, what a joke, these guys have ZERO traffic.

Right, making 4 figures per day while sleeping

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minigem

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wizbiz

How you can earn, for example just looking now popular keyword

"sport bra" have 25 click estimate per month

Are you kidding me?

"Laptop Computer" have 121 clicks per month estimate..

How much money can you make even if all those 121 clicks are yours? $5 per month?

Word "tomato" returns 7 clicks per month, what a joke, these guys have ZERO traffic.

Right, making 4 figures per day while sleeping

I don't know since I don't use 7search. But read the posts above, you just have to collect data and connect the dots. The numbers you give is only estimate and not accurate. Do you believe that there are only 121 people who will click "Laptop Computer" ads?

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wizbiz 14 years ago

Originally Posted by minigem

The numbers you give is only estimate and not accurate. Do you believe that there are only 121 people who will click "Laptop Computer" ads?

Yes, cause I'm betting on some of the keywords and see, how many
clicks I get and what Estimate Numbers are. Pretty close to reality.
They only have traffic for popular keywords like "loan" "Credit Card"
and so on, but it's make no sense to bid on the keywords with 10 clicks
per month estimate. IMHO.
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  Yes, cause I'm betting on some of the keywords and see, how many clicks I get and what Estimate Numbers are.
  
  If you are betting on keywords you're really approaching IM the wrong way lol.
  
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Naveen K

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jugnu

Hello Warriors, I am making 0$ net profit from 7search. How much(Net Profit) you guys are making from 7 search on daily base Or Monthly base.

Looking for Big Amount! :p

Even I get some decent roi in 7search. But as mentioned by KJ in above post, you need to put in some efforts to get a winner.

Most of them here complain that traffic quality of 7search is bad. This is because some of the advertisers there produce junk traffic. So we need to find those junk traffic providers and then block them (this is one of the best feature in 7search).
This is one of the most important step to keep increasing your roi.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by speedylikesKJ

Depends on niche i have been using 7search since a year now and IMO their volume is no doubt low, but ROI i got there is simply awesome :p To find winners you need to test and collect data on what works and what not

Just understand that its not all about creating a campaign and expecting money to fall from sky you will need to tweak and monitor your campaigns to make them work

Originally Posted by Naveen K

Even I get some decent roi in 7search. But as mentioned by KJ in above post, you need to put in some efforts to get a winner.

Most of them here complain that traffic quality of 7search is bad. This is because some of the advertisers there produce junk traffic. So we need to find those junk traffic providers and then block them (this is one of the best feature in 7search).
This is one of the most important step to keep increasing your roi.

Thanks for participating in my thread but your both are not telling us about your net profit from 7search. how much money you are making from 7search..? this is the main topic of this thread so please come to the point.

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

Many people ask what converts on 7serch well everything converts (yes I do credit card submits too ) if you do it in right way . Let’s take an example of promoting offers related to apple products; they are not going to convert (not suitable for long run) Apple Iphone Keyword gets 6,143 searches on 7search and top bid at this time is $0.10 and I can see 25 bidders are bidding for this keyword and I know they will be bidding on similar keywords too also keep in mind more and more people who newly join 7search promote apple product related offers first . So is it a good choice to promote apple Iphone related offers? My answer is no even I am bidding highest I won’t make enough money because too many competitors are there.

SO what type of offers you should go for? answer is simple try to go for offers with minimum competitors, try looking for keywords which have minimal competition so you won’t have any competition and also you
will enjoy very low cpc.

I have one offer since june 2011 making around 100-150 per month in pure profit( my minimum paying offer on 7S and that's only one offer ) .. With only 5 keywords (No competition around )... About quality i am promoting it since a year and advertisers never complained about quality .

There are many keywords where advertisers are paying upto 4-5 dollars per click if that traffic is of no use why would some one pay that much per click ?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by speedylikesKJ

Many people ask what converts on 7serch well everything converts (yes I do credit card submits too ) if you do it in right way . Let's take an example of promoting offers related to apple products; they are not going to convert (not suitable for long run) Apple Iphone Keyword gets 6,143 searches on 7search and top bid at this time is $0.10 and I can see 25 bidders are bidding for this keyword and I know they will be bidding on similar keywords too also keep in mind more and more people who newly join 7search promote apple product related offers first . So is it a good choice to promote apple Iphone related offers? My answer is no even I am bidding highest I won't make enough money because too many competitors are there.

SO what type of offers you should go for? answer is simple try to go for offers with minimum competitors, try looking for keywords which have minimal competition so you won't have any competition and also you
will enjoy very low cpc.

I have one offer since june 2011 making around 100-150 per month in pure profit( my minimum paying offer on 7S and that's only one offer ) .. With only 5 keywords (No competition around )... About quality i am promoting it since a year and advertisers never complained about quality .

There are many keywords where advertisers are paying upto 4-5 dollars per click if that traffic is of no use why would some one pay that much per click ?

I've gotten similar results over the past month and a half, when I decided to take another go at 7search.

One campaign is making me 20-30$ profit a week, and I run several email submits that generate 3-5$ a day in profits.

It took some testing and weeding out of bad traffic sources, but profitability IS possible on 7search. Naturally, it will be necessary to go outside of 7search to get more volume.

But like Speedy says, 7search is a good testing ground for campaigns. They're easy to work with and testing is relatively inexpensive.

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Naveen K

So we need to find those junk traffic providers and then block them (this is one of the best feature in 7search).
This is one of the most important step to keep increasing your roi.

and that does require money to collect sub ids of publishers on 7search network with bad traffic

Also don`t always go for US traffic 7search has great traffic from Canada,UK, and Australia

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cjshu99

14 years ago

This is because some of the advertisers there produce junk traffic. So we need to find those junk traffic providers and then block them (this is one of the best feature in 7search).

How do you do this?

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Thrazgard 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chronic IM

Is 7search the best way to get a ROI?

ROI is return on investment, you get one whatever network you use. :p

Originally Posted by cjshu99

How do you do this?

Yes, how do you do this.
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wizbiz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jugnu

Hello Warriors, I am making 0$ net profit from 7search.

Exactly 0$.. It's impossible to make anything, because only General Keywords

have some traffic, like if you need to sell for example "Toshiba Laptop Computer"

You'll have to bid either on "Laptop" or "Computer", and then all the fun part

begins, you got all that Junk General Traffic.. Few of my adds sitting there for Weeks and If I got 2 clicks that be big progress..

1) Not enough traffic
2) Only general keywords have any traffic at all
3) Junk Traffic which doesn't converts anyhow.

Conclusion: Waste of time and money overall. IMHO.

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ben565 14 years ago

Originally Posted by wizbiz

Exactly 0$.. It's impossible to make anything,

well i have made money on their so it is not impossible
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14 years ago

I dont understand one thing why are you curious enough to know how much someone is earning on 7search???

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jugnu 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Reddevil007

I dont understand one thing why are you curious enough to know how much someone is earning on 7search???

In Oder to know that 7search is providing real traffic Or junk. On the other hand, How much we can earn from 7search. if someone will share his earning, i will never snatch his money

Originally Posted by htlly

traffic quality is base on your blacklist. I think 7search is good for me.

How much you are earning from 7search.?
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outwest

14 years ago

actually the ones who have said how much they are making, its not a killing , but its respectable enough to be worth your time, thanks for your posts and details,

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

actually the ones who have said how much they are making, its not a killing , but its respectable enough to be worth your time, thanks for your posts and details,

For making killing 7S traffic volume is not enough .... Its a good source to test an offer what i usually do is i test on 7search and than take those converting campaign to high traffic sources ...

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14 years ago

traffic quality is base on your blacklist. I think 7search is good for me.

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14 years ago

it's sad to hear $0 earning from 7search. Why don't you shut down your service with them?

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jugnu 14 years ago

Originally Posted by webinventaekhlas

it's sad to hear $0 earning from 7search. Why don't you shut down your service with them?

Why you guys trying to change the topic of my thread.
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14 years ago

nice post.....thanks

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thesilvershield

14 years ago

Exactly $0! I've tried 7-8 offers, but haven't been able to succeed yet. I used direct link for all of them, but it didn't work.

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14 years ago

I've tried 10+ offers... but its doesn't work for me

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14 years ago

$0!! I earn $0!! Wasted $75!!

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jugnu 14 years ago

Originally Posted by convert2audi

$000000 on 7search...hit me up and i'll give you real traffic sources

please don't abuse the thread!
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Originally Posted by convert2audi

$000000 on 7search...hit me up and i'll give you real traffic sources

Righto, I'll bite.
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jocgrtgvds

14 years ago

As a good PPC source for lead generation, 7search just doesnt have the quality required

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5 figures income: 00000$
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14 years ago

You guys still can get 1cent clicks from 7search? I get loads of impressions without getting clicks. wtf?

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Adevictus

14 years ago

About $10 after a few test campaigns.
The place definitely has some promise if you know how to play the game right.

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14 years ago

Never made a dime here.

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14 years ago

I have been using them for a few months and am up to about $20 per day in profit. I adjusted the bids to return twice what im paying for in traffic. In some cases that meant removing them or reducing them to $0.01. Tracking from search to sale is key.

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14 years ago

Keep in mind that 7search is not like most PPC networks due to their open bidding system.

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14 years ago

I'm going to use them shortly, just have to get my account certified which is kinda of a pain but I guess you cant skip it :/

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14 years ago

Well, i tried 7 search for a while for CPA offers, didn't work for me...spend about $75 on 7search with negative ROI ...where as 1st tier PPC network like Adwords gave me 100% ROI..of course you can argue Adwords is difficult to crack for affiliate marketing..............especially CPA.

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

You have to keep testing 7search if done write can work well but don't just rely heavily on it. Try using Microsoft ad center or Yahoo I have better results with Ad Center in the past Google has been getting under my skin lately.

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14 years ago

I honestly dislike 7search it honestly depends on your niche!

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14 years ago

7search is like Miva used to be awhile back. Just not worth it unless you have a really good niche on it.

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14 years ago

I made 9$ and spent about 40$.

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14 years ago

I invested nearly $275 on 7Search between December 2011 and February 2012. I only made about $65, give or take. Sounds pretty bad, right? After I blew that money, I killed my campaigns, stopped funding my account and gave up on 7Search.

Between February 2012 and June 2012, I studied a lot about PPC and CPA. I joined PPC Coach's private forum, Six Months From Now (another private forum), read a lot on here, and bought Chad Hamzeh's Traffic Blackbook course. I'm an education junkie.

Two weeks ago, I dumped another pile of money into my 7Search account, and I re-evaluated my old prosper202 data from months ago. I found trends in the data that I previously didn't know how to see. I decided to put my new brain to work.

Here's what is happening now (it's not ground breaking, but it proves a point):

I tested 4 campaigns, and after a week of buying data I decided that I would kill 2. One is improving, and one became profitable for 1 day.

Here's how the profitable one has been growing:

June 12th: -52% ROI
June 13th: +51% ROI
June 14th: -10% ROI (but there's still a chance for profit, the night is young!)

The large swings are because I had to shape the traffic significantly. On June 12th I banned a whack of Sub IDs that were sending garbage traffic, and I killed some expensive keywords. On June 13th the results looked good.

Since the traffic is so low, if I just get 1 more conversion tonight my ROI will be positive again.

So yeah, it's a case study for me. I really don't expect to make more than $10/day with this campaign once it's fully optimized. But at least I'll prove to myself that I can make something profitable

I just don't want to give up on 7Search... I am stubborn I guess.

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14 years ago

Oh and by the way, I learned a lot of valuable lessons:

1. Don't be emotional with PPC.
2. Let the data tell you what to do.
3. Reading/studying without trying things out is a huge waste of time (and therefore money).
4. Be ready to lose a bit of money as you buy data at the start of a campaign. Don't try to optimize and get to profit too soon... you need a large enough sample of data.
5. Sometimes you can't optimize, you just have to dump a campaign.
6. Choose an offer that you know converts well, or at least one where you have a pretty good idea about its conversion probability.

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Mr Lim

14 years ago

I deposit another $75, and had a -25% ROI with use of just ad writing skill.
The worst thing is that, some advertiser blacklist me, as you will need to create your own landing page.

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14 years ago

I haven't created any landing pages yet, but I think I should be testing some.

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14 years ago

But one small question, why do I have to spend from my own money to find the cheaters or the sites that produce junk traffic from their system and they aren't doing anything regarding this matter advertisers still come bring money (loose money) publishers get paid, 7search earning also until they can not convince anyone else to come and invest into their network. They say everywhere about the patented anticheating system, but I don't see it in action.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by costi

But one small question, why do I have to spend from my own money to find the cheaters or the sites that produce junk traffic from their system and they aren't doing anything regarding this matter advertisers still come bring money (loose money) publishers get paid, 7search earning also until they can not convince anyone else to come and invest into their network. They say everywhere about the patented anticheating system, but I don't see it in action.

I guess your straight forward word was 7Search = Junk?

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14 years ago

I would have to agree with you on this point. It chaps my ass, too. I'm not sure how much I believe in their "patented click fraud technology" if it's missing the dozens of fraudulent clicks that I see every day in prosper202.

Originally Posted by costi

But one small question, why do I have to spend from my own money to find the cheaters or the sites that produce junk traffic from their system and they aren't doing anything regarding this matter advertisers still come bring money (loose money) publishers get paid, 7search earning also until they can not convince anyone else to come and invest into their network. They say everywhere about the patented anticheating system, but I don't see it in action.

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designfantasy

14 years ago

I have earned from 25$ which i deposited about 20$, so almost i returned my investment

I mostly promoted CPA offers, and i noticed that only not famous cpa offers converts and not: (iphone, ipad, macbook) etc...which everybody is converting.
Try something else and maybe you can convert something, but you must understand that is 2nd tier network, so traffic is not best here. Hope that helps.
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14 years ago

Tested this network. I had ROI about 500% but profit about $1/day. This is insane) Traffic comes from junk sites. Volume is low. So you have to set up about 1000 campaigns to make it work. My IMHO.

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14 years ago

I have tries once but it was totally waste of time for me.

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14 years ago

I stopped using 7 search about 6 months back. I was not seeing any revenue coming from them.

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Joey Babbs

14 years ago

7search is difficult to make money and definitely not a newbie friendly PPC or paid traffic source....you really need to know how to test and track and block bad sources. This is fully explained in this blog post.

If you are looking for $100 - $1000 days with 7search traffic you should probably look into another traffic source like adcenter or Google.

7Search in my opinion is for the $10 a day or less...per campaign....in fact the reason now one is here touting about big money days with 7search, is for the simple reason that there are not a lot of people pulling this off...also I have yet to find any real case study on this traffic source that shows a real money making campaign...that is not for an email submit.

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Banned 14 years ago

7search is the one booming at the moment as they got some really cheap prices for the traffic. And I have seen some case studies that are very profitable with them.

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14 years ago

I have spent 120$ and I have made 135$ so I have made 15$ profit

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jugnu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by costi

But one small question, why do I have to spend from my own money to find the cheaters or the sites that produce junk traffic from their system and they aren't doing anything regarding this matter advertisers still come bring money (loose money) publishers get paid, 7search earning also until they can not convince anyone else to come and invest into their network. They say everywhere about the patented anticheating system, but I don't see it in action.

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I have spent 120$ and I have made 135$ so I have made 15$ profit

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costi

14 years ago

@williamk of course they have the lowest prices because of their traffic quality, it would be a great surprise to see high prices with this kind of traffic.

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immaulana

14 years ago

Have not tried 7S, but this thread and some reply post good consideration for me.
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superfcu

14 years ago

I think it is not worth the time to trying. Time is money.

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Voopa

14 years ago

If you have time and money there are better alternatives, if you think about 2$ profit per day is enough 7search is the best place, but you must work hard and make so many adjustments to your campaigns to make that little profit.

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pers1t 14 years ago

7search can be good for making email lists. The volume is really low, but once you get 100-200 subscribers you can start ad swaps an grow your list dramatically
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watsonovedades

14 years ago

very good info in this thread thanks

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MPPTrainer

13 years ago

Personally, I've had no luck in the weight loss niche even getting optins on seven search. I ran my ads on Facebook, got a 45% optin rate with a .5 CTR, of those optins, I got 5% conversion (marketing campaign isn't done yet with marketing to that list, could get higher). Did Soloads got 30 to 60% optin rate, got solid conversion. Did 7 Search, got 1% optin rate, 0% conversion--waste of 50 dollars.