PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend!

Yes it does work. I was recently crushing it with an offer, spending about $100 an hour.

My daily net profits were between $600-$1000 a day from one offer from one site.

I won't say what offer or which network... in fact ppv works so well I'd probably charge 10k or more to train on it.... better yet I'd probably charge more and anyone that gives training on how to do ppv marketing is crazy because if you have the right tools, excellent tracking you can make a fortune.

Sadly, the offer that was killing it for me, the site that was converting had tech problems within the network (or at least the ppv provider claims this)

I've recently gotten smart though. I think the best pay and the proper way to really bring home the bread with ppv is to grab yourself a URL rotator, hook up with Neverblue b/c they have easy uploadable pixels and pick and pick a theme... lets say "money and finance, more specifally loans"

Run about 5-10 offers that have anything to do with getting a loan or money on the URL rotator witin the ppv network. Narrow it down to the best converting offer, drop ther others then start shaving off the sites that aren't converting.

Also if you don't know this, most networks refer to ppv traffic as DLS traffic and a lot of offers accept it, if they don't ask your affiliate manager and just ask for an approval to send DLS traffic.

I still make great money with ppv on zip submits, but the big big money is in the $9-$32 payouts.

I forget to mention, it's also probably wise to get a URL scraper, as uploading or cutting and pasting one URL to target at a time is a pain in the a@@. You'll need to run about 500-1000 URL's per campaign to see decent traffic, especially from media traffic or addonnetwork.

I doubt anyone would tell you which offers they are running and on which networks if they are banking, I certainly wouldn't, but I am willing to help.. however I am not going to hand over the pie for free

could get no conversion, $200 goes fast mediatraffic

Hi I'm doing forex

Hey Fox I know which WSO your talking about and I got a refund after loosing quite a bit of money on it. Dont be fooled by the reviews on it. When I left an honest review the author went nuts and I removed it. I was still convinced PPV was profitable and after digging deep and finding someone to help one on one I was suprised that everyone says the opposite of whats conatined within the WSO, for example as mentioned in this thread you need to scrape up to 1000 urls, as well as that a lot of people I know are using a maximum of 10 keywords some aren't even using any keywords at all just URL's. I wouldn't take 100's of keywords as suggested.

Can somebody recommend a good preferably free URL scraper. Im using adwords digger but its only allowing up to 100.

Dave

Hey Marian,

Can you please elaborate on the rotator? Is this something that Mediatraffic provides or something you link up externally?

Cheers!
Chucky

You can't have audio, video, etc. on MT's popups.

750x550 for MediaTraffic.

Wow Hat's off to you sir! If I made 10K in 3 months, I'll be on top of the world :-)

What do you mean make your ad appealing? Audio, Video, Flash?

If you could open our eyes a little bit more, that would be awesomely appreciated!

Thanks a lot DarkNightHatter!
Chucky

Thanks Marian, will definitely pay attention to that.
Chucky

A new course?

It is a hot trend.

Promoting CPA offers has been the latest trend in IM and the methods for promoting CPA offers is lined to that trend.

PPV/CPV is nothing new but the increased interest in it is.

Regards,

John

Per my experience is hot or cold. I've run with them for 2 years now some days are great then a few days are just crap. I've tried to nail down variables, days of week ect. But ultimately I think it's the ebb and flow of publishers into the network that creates this variance.

PPV can be great but definitely requires a firm understanding of the model and controlled testing processes.

best of luck!

Yes, sure pop-under and pop-over have been around for a long time, not new at all.

But if you call it something else, and make it a "secret hot trend" and "guarantee success" by just following a "simple formula", then you can make a WSO and help to educate some newbies!

So what if people have been doing this for years? You need to repackage it to sell your how-to-make-megabucks IM info-product.

Not exactly the same as typical CPM. There are very similar and i would call them cousins.

CPM is about "impressions", while CPV is about "views".

Impressions are generally banners or ads on websites in the form of a graphic image that is typically positioned in a margin or other space reserved for ads

Views are generally Pop-over or Pop-under windows. Some are full-size and some are smaller minimized windows.

Additionally, CPV (Cost per View) incorporates the concept of keyword targeting with the low cost CPM (Cost per Thousand) model.

CPV technology matches your "targeted" keywords with the information that the consumer is searching for and then... instantly delivers the user to your web site via Pop-over/under. You only pay when a consumer views your site,

See the difference?

Regards,

John

ps - I hope you enjoyed this PPV 101 post. No need to send money - just hit the thanks button.

Hey lherbal,

Have no doubt about the quantity of traffic Clicksor can bring. At least for the one (or two) niches that I tried with them, I got tonnes of traffic within a very short period. Conversions.....that's a different story. I'm not going to downgrade on their quality of traffic just because I didn't get any conversions.
May be I didn't match the type of offer for their audience. They're not transparent about their publisher network. If I knew what it was like, then may be I could have targeted some better ads to them. But hey, that's not how it happened unfortunately.
I hope your offers are the right ones for their traffic.
Chucky
P.S. I'm yet to see a positive comment about Clicksor traffic conversions. So please comment if you have already seen success on Clicksor, thanks!

Referring to lherbal's post, Clicksor's Popunder traffic is different than Google Adsense. First of all, we have different group of publishers than Google. Secondly, our ad is displaying on a Full page Popunder basis instead of banners.

We have recieved feedbacks from Advertisers that our content targeted traffic by websites are converting better for them than adware traffic due to the fact that adware traffic contains repeated visitors and unauthorized ads on sites.

The targeting of your ad campaigns with us plays an important role with our contextual targeted campaign. Therefore, we welcome you to contact us for recommendations and suggestions. I believe that you have received a fast response from your experience in contacting us.

If you would like to get further information or concerns on our service, please feel free to contact your Account Manager. An Account is free to signup at Clicksor and a dedicated account manager will be assigned.

Best Regards,

Clicksor Customer Support

Yes, that is correct.

It varies from network to network. The best ones like MT allow you to select the frequency and give you several choices; typically in a drop-down menu.

MT offers:
1/12
1/24
1/48
1/72
1 Week
1 month

Regards,

John

Unfortunately MT has no exact match. I talked (chatted) with Hugo (the very helpful online live help) and he said they don't have it. What they have is something like a broad match for keywords although for URLs they do have four options.

What I ended up doing with Clicksor was to identify those sites that bring you tons of traffic and 'eliminate' them from your campaign. That did the trick for me as far as burning up my daily budget, but it didn't fix the problem of 'no conversions' :-)
Chucky

You go to "Edit Existing Campaigns" --> select the campaign you want --> scroll down to 'Current destinations' --> on the right hand side, next to your URL there are two buttons called ROI and modify --> click the modify button --> then that area expands to show 'advanced features' --> you'll see a button called test it --> Press it and that's it!

Hope that was helpful!
Good luck!
Chucky

I guess those who are making a killing with this method are keeping a heavily guarded secret. by the way where is all the money paid the the affiliates coming from?

Jay,

Tweak it!

Your next step should be...

- eliminate the URL's that are bringing traffic but no conversions

Regards,

John

Thanks for your reply.

AND A VERY BIG THANK YOU FOR calling me CHUNKY :-) I'm very skinny :-)

Hm, that kinda blows. Hey ppc-coach, could you check your pm inbox?

Also, does anyone know how long it takes before a completed lead is registered with mediatraffic or the cpa networks?

I've gotten 600 views for a campaign I launched about 4 hours ago.. But mediatraffic tells me my ROI is 0.00, and ads4dough too... So any hope for me here, or do I need to change my tactics? I am promoting a google biz opp. offer by the way.

I used an url-scraper to gather a lot of URLs and also added some relevant 3 word keywords... I am using a pop up, not a pop under.

Most of the completed leads should register within the same day.

Pop-up (its actually a "pop-over" which is a fully functional window which cannot be blocked)

I tend to bid on URL's mostly so that I can really target my campaigns. I use a tool called a URL scraper to find targets. Fellow warrior Robert Matthew sells the one I use. Look for his WSO for "urlkeywordz".

I have never tried PPV > Clickbank

min 50 URL's, but usually 100+ URL's.

sindy

Brad...

If the window loads, yes, that does counts as a view. But, keep in mind, this window will be a pop up or pop under that opens in a new browswer or tab.

It can't be blocked and, even though it counts when the window is being loaded, 9 out of 10 times that window won't even be noticed until later on anyway. It's non intrusive, is what I'm trying to say, and the entire offer landing page will be in plain view.


David

With DirectCPV, they show as full screen interstitial ads over the site, nothing pops. It seems to work better than pops because people tend to close them quicker.

It's the offer your promoting and the landing page you're sending them to. Plus, you may know about that method I showed you, but you're still not looking for the right keywords to get URL's. If you were, you'd be converting.

Yeah, Traffic Vance is awesome. I've had the Vice President of Traffic Vance Jonathan Vogel as a guest on a few of my webinars and we've become great friends. He's given me a lot of neat tips for his network.

If guys are spending $10k a day on there, trust me, money is being made. My margins on Traffic Vance are at least 400% profit.

I wanted to chime in with some results. I like sharing so here it is

First off my primary focus is and has always been primarily zip/email submits.

Media Traffic -

I converted a few teeth whitening offers, then nothing after that. I tested about $200 more on the teeth whitening offers with a review site and I just couldn't convert anymore so I scratched that one.

Tested the walmart gift card offer, free iphone, laptops ect... all zips and it was up and down for both keyword and URL. Some days I was on top and others I was just under even.

I believe finding the right zip or email submit in media will work, it just sucks going through 100 different offers to find it and tailoring each test to specific keywords and domains so you really can't rotate to see what fits.

I tested a few insurance offers, car insurance and debt relief and nothing... again these were zips submits.

Still going at it with media traffic, I know it works it's just a matter of testing and digging for gold.

Clicksor -

Back in April and May I crushed it with any offer I am sure you're all aware of. Sadly clicksor does not allow it's advertisers access to publishers, so the site that was pulling for me mysteriously dropped out of the network never to be seen again, only to be ID'd with a number. After 5 months of them telling me the publisher's site was down I just gave up. I believe they are telling the truth as I have a good relationship with them.

Ran other zips and email submits with clicksor with success. I will tell you it's a painful to find profitable ones. If you're going to do it test at least 5-10 at a time and have deep pockets, but you can find ones that convert and then it makes up for all the testing dollars lost, or at least that's my philosophy.

Summary

- I am still testing offers daily like a mad scientist, both zip/email and pay per sale offers. I avg around $80-$150 daily profit and I sink most of it back into more and more testing hoping to find more gold.

- Recently I was doing about $300-$450 daily with the big 3 search engines. Like many I've lost my G account, thefore I had to start over again. Yes it was painful to lose $300 and sometimes $600 daily profits, but in retrospect I was relying on one source of traffic and this source dictated my income. Now, to be honest, I am thankful that I have becuase it's opened up so many other advertising sources I'd of never looked for and I don't recommend relying on one source of traffic either.

-I started out being slamed back down to $5 daily profits and have thus far began rebuiling without the big G and my best day so far has been $170 profit. Where there's a will, there's a way.

I'll keep you posted on my progress.

PPV GURU,

Could you please send me the link to the PPV Video tutorial?Thanks!

i would also like to know if somebody has success with media traffic and high paying offers like health trials..

I think you just turn on "use target passthrough" and then tracking202 picks it up from there. It has native support for MT

PM me that video too please

Well if you ask me there is a lot of "view fraud" out there.

Your client should care whether the traffic is prequalified or not so he or she would know how many people actually would bother to read what's on their website. Whichever network your use you will have to do significant testing within the client's niche to see what works with their creative/content/etc. What is their endgame other than just "hits" to the website? Don't they want subscribers or readers or for people to bookmark or comment on posts or something?

Traffic Vance will probably give you the most traffic but I think I would try to convince your clients that it's not really hits that matters. Once you can show them the value of targeted traffic they will think you are a genius and probably be willing to pay you a lot more

Don't take my word as official, but I believe that you're correct. I think I read somewhere that visitors coming from an LP don't technically count as CPV traffic. You'll definitely want to check with your AM before sending traffic like this to a non-CPV offer.

Brad

No, don't ever assume anything when it comes to CPA networks. It doesn't matter if you are cloaking or not, if you are sending PPV traffic I would make sure the offer you are running accepts it. I wouldn't risk not getting your hard earned commissions.

i think there are really useful informations on ppv2 but i think it's much better if you invest the 900 $ in your ppv budget and find out the things for yourself..this way you will learn much more.

I think you would learn more by using the $900 for testing yes. It's a good course but if you are just starting out I would read free blogs and forums to get a better basic understanding of everything. Then if you do buy a course like that you will get a lot more out of it.

That's funny, I buy the ones I can afford. I bought Jonathan Mizel's course on media buying, it was a good intro but honestly I personally need a lot more specific and detailed information to get a good grasp on this type of traffic buying. I can't afford Gauher's course not anytime soon, how come you haven't even looked at it yet? I'd be all over it.

I agree with that. I also think PPV is going to get a LOT more competitive as more and more people get into it.

I haven't been able to get anything to work on Clicksor, and I've heard the same thing from a lot of affiliates. :\

Yeah and I hope the Clicksor Guys jump in on this discussion before the topic changes. Most of what I'm hearing from other people that have tried advertising with Clicksor is that they have had generally bad results. I've spent around $200 so far with two conversions and I think that was just dumb luck.

It really would be great if they could discuss in more detail either on this forum or on their own about how to properly target their audiences, it is also frustrating to not be able to see the websites your ads are appearing on. I know it's beating the dead horse here cause they've already said why they don't show them, but ... why is it so hard to make something work on this network?

It's getting competitive already but just like with PPC, affiliates who take the time to learn it, keep testing, and trying new things will continue to make money

That's the problem right there. It's kind of like PPC where there are a few networks like Google, Bing, etc that convert good and some 3rd tier ones that convert really bad. With PPV you should stick to the larger, well known networks like Traffic Vance, Media Traffic, Adon Network, etc.

I would really encourage you to try it again with a different network

I thought I read here on this thread that TV was making some changes so that you don't have to start with $1k, is that true? I can't seem to find that post now.

Media Traffic has pretty good conversions, just not as much traffic as Traffic Vance. I recommend people start there because you can see a nice return on your campaigns and the initial deposit isn't as steep.

Are there good PPV networks out there that allow pay-pal payments?
I don't have a CC and I do not live in the US, so pay-pal credit card is out of the question.

I only know of clicksor at the moment, but getting a campaign up and running is feeling way to slow on clicksor.

LOL!

How much would I have to pay you to check out some sites for me?

it always depends if your'e doing direct linking or use a landingpage and also it varies from offer to offer. so its very difficult to tell you exact numbers

Is there a PPV network that allows adult websites like adultfriendfinder or live webcam sites? thanks

I'm not certain this will be the solution, but try the following on one line.
youtube.com skin+care+products skincare

I have used LeadImpact and they are pretty good imho.
They have both USA traffic and international too.
Their traffic can convert pretty good if you know how to target right.
Give them a spin , I think you will like their traffic.

Nice resources.

Mike