Need A Lot Of Help

It does not matter whether you are using dropshipping or affiliate marketing, the important thing is to find product and traffic that can easily convert to sales.

Hey, with email marketing, all you really need is an opt in page and an autoresponder. Most autoresponder companies will let you build an opt in page for free when you use their service for like 20 bucks a month or so. I know getresponse does, as well as sendlane. Just choose an affiliate product, get your opt in page set up, and start getting traffic.

Hope this helps!

Thank you both for the info. Sendlane is Aniks' product. I have been looking at GetResponse and Constant Contact.

I have been searching for good niche ideas in ClickBank, so there is so much "junk" offers and low gravity options. Some doesn't even list a commission. I would like to start in a good AM niche, then get a PLR from JVZoo later to tweek and change for my own product. Like I said though...my only setback is that I am not a copywriter or writer for content to place in e-mails or opt-in page. I am willing to get real serious and learn, but I have no income right now to pay for courses. I am reading any free info that I can though, and reading every post here in the forum.

I am determined to be a great e-mail marketer...and make a sustainable business from it.

"Oversaturated"?

"Good offers"?

"Too Expensive"?

"Free"?

All worrisome buzzwords that indicate what Zig Ziglar would call "stinkin' thinkin'."

Looks like you are looking for the winning method to be served up to you on a silver platter.

But business is not a mechanical thing. Success does not come from "doing these seven things in this order the exact way I tell you to." What works for me won't necessarily work for you.

Success comes from getting involved, mixing it up, making mistakes and learning what to correct. Much if it is sheer persistence.

The Map Is Not The Territory.

Any and every business, no matter how small, requires these two things:

Traffic

and

Conversion.

Your email business idea will require leads coming in from a proven traffic source...to an opt-in page and sequence that will qualify them and get them ready for the offer...and an offer to convert some of the qualified leads into buyers. See all those moving parts? You'll have to get your very first version set up...start seeing some results from real data...and begin making adjustments on each stage.

I do NOT want it handed to me on a silver platter, but I also don't want to be shafted by a "guru"! I paid some tough dues 30 years ago or more, when affiliate marketing first started. There wasn't many "experts" then, so it was a jump -in -and-figure-it-out-for-yourself kind of deal. People were putting up banner farms, spamming affiliate links, etc. I went bankrupt trying to "make money online".

Going through Anik Singals free videos has shown me that e-mail marketing is still viable, but there are SO many gurus coming up in my FB feed, and news feeds, that I was overloaded with what method to use...dropshipping, print on demand, marketing for local businesses, e-mail marketing with affiliate programs, e-mail marketing with my own products , etc. Each one has a guru that will take me "step-by-step to success" for only $1000.00 (not counting their $400-$800 upsells and downsells).

If you read my previous posts, you will see that I am determined to learn and do this on my own without the "silver platter", I was just asking for other affiliate networks that are just as good or better than CB for offers. I am asking for a hand up, not a hand out.

And I am well aware of Zig Ziglers quaint prose..."Optimism is hunting for Moby Dick in a rowboat, and bringing tartar sauce". I am speaking from a long history of working hard and grinding away...only to lose everything I had! Cute motivational sayings are not what I am asking for. I am asking for some free things because I am broke and unemployed at 60! I want to put in work and sweat equity in learning all I can now, then getting everthing planned out on what I am going to do when funding is available. I am not allergic to hard work. But thank you for your opinion.

The problem is you do need help- but you aren't ready to take it. If you are following gurus - you know the free info is designed to get you into the sales funnel and sell to you. If you want to start email marketing - start reading the email marketing section here.

It happens. I'm not a 'motivational quote' sort of person but I do believe the quality of my own life is not determined by how many times I've fallen down - but on how many times I've gotten back up. Put on your big girl pants, decide WHAT you want to do - and start doing it without the 'buts'. Age is irrelevant..it really is.

If you don't want to write - and can't afford to hire work done - email marketing won't work for you. Plain and simple. How do you plan to get around that? Make your decisions based on reality - not on guru hype.

If you use the word 'but' in a sentence, it cancels out the thought/phrase that appears before the 'but'....

You seem to be saying "I want to do this but I don't want to do this"....that is something YOU have to resolve. Until you choose one thing and focus on it and WANT to do it (without all the 'buts') - it will be hard to make any money online.

Stop looking for reason why various methods 'won't work' - and look instead for ways to make it work for you. Sounds easier than it is - but what else is new?

Focus 100% on something you enjoy doing and from there, see if your passion solves some pressing problem through market research. All of what you share matters if you feel incredibly passionate about it. If not, trash it, and trash the robotic, logic-filled struggle that plagues most online entrepreneurs out there. Your fun contains the money if you are genuine in solving a specific problem in that area.

Thank you everyone for your reponses. I will use all of your advice...
1) find my passion
2) find a problem in my passion area
3) find a way to solve that problem.

I do want to learn to write, I am starting some training on copywriting. I am also researching the best ESP for me, the AM products that will be best for my passion, etc. Basically my business plan. I am also eagerly absorbing all the info here on Warrior Forum. I am going to be prepared to start this up right once funding is available.

Not really a 'lie' - but that passion can be for something other than the niche you choose.


Your 'passion' may be paying the mortgage - or building a college fund for your child - or earning enough that you don't have to worry about survival from day to day.



It can be a dislike of working regular hours or a desire to live and work out in the country where traditional jobs are scarce....or a wish to travel here and there without being tied to a traditional office.



Whatever it is - whether love of a niche you are involved in or real life scenarios that motivate you - that 'passion' is what makes you keep at it.

Awesome post Kay King...thank you. I have several "passions" that I am thinking about, but I don't think all of them can be nonetized...or monetized deeply. I am totally crazy about cats, but there isn't many digital products for that. I have ruptured discs in my back, so pain relief etc. is a passion and may have more products available.

Also what you said...wanting to have more income instead of just surviving day to day. Wanti ng to spend more time with my husband traveling instead of tied down to a 9-5 J. O. B., that sort of thing.

Thank you for that dave...I will consider and research those. And Kay, I just now finally got what you were saying lol. I can be passionate about traveling with my husband or making more money...but be selling in the diet niche, or daves' suggestion of back braces.

Dave...my main concern with dropshipping is that Chinese suppliers sometimes have poor quality, and shipping times are too long (plus the fact that the shipping label has the actual price of the product on it for customs purposes). If I dropship from a US manufacturer, they either want an EIN number, or have high minimum orders. Also, if they turn out to be a wholesaler or distributor...I would have very slim margins.

I might be able ro find AM programs for those products though. I am goibg to research all of this, as well as continuing to study. Thank you everyone for your wonderful responses...this forum rocks!

Eeehh, never really bought into the whole guru idea. If she's been so successful with a method, would she be selling courses that create competition for her? It's a giant pyramid.

There are tons of resources online for free. Many of them are crap, but the good news is you'll learn to recognize crap after going through tons of crap.

Sorry to say this, but it takes a lot of time and research. Haven't really found a way around it, except if you have a mentor or a friend who knows what works.

So I guess what I could only recommend is be patient and learn as much as possible with spending as little money as possible in the process. Good luck.

Thank you Mat. As far as "gurus" go, I remember a saying I heard a long time ago about selling tools to miners. I feel the same way...if they are making "millions" with their method or system themselves, why are they also trying to make millions taking my money to teach me their system.

I have been reading every post in the copywriting forum, and it has almost become obsessive. I am going to study all I can, practice by making my own sales copy and e-mail series to sell a few affiliate products while I learn - then make my own product. As I get more practice in and studying every type of copywriting, I would like to start my own business.

I love Gurus. They are awesome folks!

Have you really been in affiliate marketing for 30 years?

Are you asking me? I started in AM about 30 years ago, but quit when it didn't pan out. I didn't stay in it continuesly that whole time.

My problem with gurus are their prices. As I said before, I am strapped financially right now. ALL of the gurus I have checked out so far charge no less than $1000.00 to get into their program or "master class". Then they want you to pay another $800.00 to $1000.00 for another product that is part of their program or system. You never get the entire thing until you have spent close to $6000.00 and get e-mail spammed to death. Even if you bought it all...you are not guaranteed that it isn't crap that you can't use, or you could have found most of the info free by doing a little research.

Most of my copywriting study that I have started already gives me step-by-step basics without a "guru", and if I have a question...there are a lot of awesome people on this forum that I might be able to ask. I don't mind getting my hands dirty doing the digging, research, and study - I don't necessarily need a guru holding my hand, or as some of them are claiming..."doing it for me".