Experienced Info-Product Sellers, How Do You Prevent Getting PayPal Problems?

by DRMB
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Hi, Warriors!

I've been reading some horror stories about PayPal.

Since you started selling Info Products, what problems
have you been dealing with? How frequent were they?

Advice on how to prevent them?

Is official legal business registration a must?

Thank you for your contributions!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Take the time to read the terms of service on the paypal site. Paypal has some good advice on its site, such as


    https://www.paypal.com/us/brc/articl...nt-limitations


    I've used paypal since right after the site was launched and have had only TWO limitations. One was a new business acct when an ad started sales rolling in quickly...that was solved with explanation over the phone...took about 2-3 hrs to fix it.


    The second was when my partner accessed the acct from another country - even though I had listed him as someone with access....the 'other country' automatically froze the acct. Again, didn't take long to fix it.


    My advice is to always keep enough funds in your paypal acct to cover any returns. There are many 'horror stories' about paypal but almost always if you get the full story you find there was a reason the problem occurred.


    Paypal's goal is to protect the integrity of transactions made on its platform. If a transaction is questionable in any way, there may be a freeze till the problem is solved.
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    • Profile picture of the author DRMB
      Thank you for taking the time to reassure me!



      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Take the time to read the terms of service on the paypal site. Paypal has some good advice on its site, such as


      https://www.paypal.com/us/brc/articl...nt-limitations


      I've used paypal since right after the site was launched and have had only TWO limitations. One was a new business acct when an ad started sales rolling in quickly...that was solved with explanation over the phone...took about 2-3 hrs to fix it.


      The second was when my partner accessed the acct from another country - even though I had listed him as someone with access....the 'other country' automatically froze the acct. Again, didn't take long to fix it.


      My advice is to always keep enough funds in your paypal acct to cover any returns. There are many 'horror stories' about paypal but almost always if you get the full story you find there was a reason the problem occurred.


      Paypal's goal is to protect the integrity of transactions made on its platform. If a transaction is questionable in any way, there may be a freeze till the problem is solved.
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    • Profile picture of the author merchantta
      Thanks for sharing your valuable advice about Paypal. It was really helpful for me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    Originally Posted by DRMB View Post

    Hi, Warriors!

    I've been reading some horror stories about PayPal.

    Since you started selling Info Products, what problems
    have you been dealing with? How frequent were they?

    Advice on how to prevent them?

    Is official legal business registration a must?

    Thank you for your contributions!


    The problem with PayPal is that they make it super
    easy for customers to file a complaint or chargeback
    against sellers.

    I once had $3,000 frozen because the customer said
    the color of what she received was different than what
    it looked like online. The dispute was resolved in my
    favor but it took a few weeks and it was inconvenient.

    In order to avoid having PayPal problems you should
    use another payment processor, and use platforms
    that give you other options.

    One of them is Etsy, which is great for selling digital
    downloads, because it's built into their system that
    there are NO REFUNDS for digital products.

    This way people can't download whatever it is, read
    it, keep it and get a refund. Etsy takes PayPal but
    sellers are paid by direct deposit.

    Business registration is a local issue, you should
    direct questions where you are doing business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    The safest thing to do to avoid problems is to just work a job and forget doing anything online. If it's not PayPal doing something it'll be a host or an affiliate or some forum member or a customer.

    I'm only half joking. I was so afraid before people would steal my stuff that it froze me and I kept putting it off for months and even years. And then I had the above feeling and realized it all, even just regular life itself, is a risk.

    There is good advice above. Try to get in the service mindset and really trying to help your customers to excel in whatever you are selling or teaching. And do the best you can with what you got where you're at. That's all you can do!

    Good luck.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by DRMB View Post

    Hi, Warriors!
    I've been reading some horror stories about PayPal.
    Since you started selling Info Products, what problems
    have you been dealing with? How frequent were they?
    Advice on how to prevent them?
    Is official legal business registration a must?
    Thank you for your contributions!
    What Kay said. Almost all PP problems are self generated, either by not following TOS, or by not delivering what was ordered, or in the case of the color differences, by not having this at the start.

    I know many other information marketers who have never suffered a horror story, and safe to say, those that do, will also have stories of how Stripe, Trolley, Square, Adyen or even their own merchant accounts all "screwed" them over.

    Best advice to prevent problems. CLARITY in your promotion, deliver what they order, and give them good service and avoid the horror to start with. It is hardly ever about the big mean PayPal company, and almost always about you.

    GordonJ
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

      What Kay said. Almost all PP problems are self generated, either by not following TOS, or by not delivering what was ordered, or in the case of the color differences, by not having this at the start.

      I know many other information marketers who have never suffered a horror story, and safe to say, those that do, will also have stories of how Stripe, Trolley, Square, Adyen or even their own merchant accounts all "screwed" them over.

      Best advice to prevent problems. CLARITY in your promotion, deliver what they order, and give them good service and avoid the horror to start with. It is hardly ever about the big mean PayPal company, and almost always about you.

      GordonJ


      You probably don't remember when getting PayPal refunds
      was an industry. People would get their digital downloads
      and request a refund for any reason and get their money
      back.

      In my case, the client ordered furniture. If she didn't like the
      color, she could have packed it back up and returned it but
      she tried to pull a fast one, thought she could keep the
      furniture plus get a refund if she claimed the color was off.

      How was any of that the seller's fault?
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        You probably don't remember when getting PayPal refunds
        was an industry. People would get their digital downloads
        and request a refund for any reason and get their money
        back.
        In my case, the client ordered furniture. If she didn't like the
        color, she could have packed it back up and returned it but
        she tried to pull a fast one, thought she could keep the
        furniture plus get a refund if she claimed the color was off.
        How was any of that the seller's fault?
        Right, not on seller. However, the OP asked about info products, since I've never sold furniture, I defer to your expertise on the subject. I remember almost everything, except very recent shows on streaming services, which have become very forgettable.

        I will BLAME the seller for digital refunds, it has to do with the promotion, the expectation and the information itself. I come from it at the serve the avatar angle, not the what can I sell to make money angle.

        And to be correct, I've had issues with PayPal, but nothing that wasn't quickly and professionally fixed after a little back and forth communication.

        Now if one does volume, like a Jeff Smith or Jimmy Brown, then a small % of refunds is built in...but as for PayPal or any payment processor goes, they all tend to error on the side of the customer, which just makes sense.

        GordonJ
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        • Profile picture of the author Monetize
          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

          Right, not on seller. However, the OP asked about info products, since I've never sold furniture, I defer to your expertise on the subject.

          I addressed information products/digital downloads in both of my replies.

          What else do you want?
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    I think what many people forget is how difficult it was in the early days of eCommerce for newcomers to get started selling online. It almost always involved going to their bank and trying to explain how they intended to trade without any kind of physical presence. Not many banks were sympathetic, even if they understood.

    PayPal has undoubtedly helped countless internet marketers get going and its emphasis on customer rights has been crucial to establishing it as a trustworthy platform for buyers. For sellers, that is "a good thing".

    There will always be those who seek to exploit the system on both sides. I remember how this forum once used to be awash with PayPal horror stories about how marketers' accounts had been frozen or shut down through no fault of their own.

    I wasn't buying it then, and I don't buy it now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      I think what many people forget is how difficult it was in the early days of eCommerce for newcomers to get started selling online. It almost always involved going to their bank and trying to explain how they intended to trade without any kind of physical presence. Not many banks were sympathetic, even if they understood.

      PayPal has undoubtedly helped countless internet marketers get going and its emphasis on customer rights has been crucial to establishing it as a trustworthy platform for buyers. For sellers, that is "a good thing".

      There will always be those who seek to exploit the system on both sides. I remember how this forum once used to be awash with PayPal horror stories about how marketers' accounts had been frozen or shut down through no fault of their own.

      I wasn't buying it then, and I don't buy it now.


      In the early days of e-commerce, buying and selling on eBay
      anyway, we were sending each other checks and money orders
      for Beanie Babies.

      My very first credit card transaction, I moved the sale from eBay
      over to Amazon, where I also had a seller account, so that the
      buyer could pay for the item through Amazon's payment system.

      It was approx $200 for a framed artwork.

      Amazon processed the payment and deposited the money in
      your bank account, the same way they still do now.

      This was all before PayPal was even a thing.

      It seems like an eternity but it really was not that long ago.
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