Headline Help? Pleaseeeee

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I've begun writing my salesletter but I'm stuck on the headline! I have a few ideas but I'll tell you about the product then my ideas.

It is a 90-Day Basketball program to get increase your ball-handling abilities (dribbling the ball) I think the 90-Day thing is good because its like just 90-days out of your life and you'll get perfect ball handling sort of thing.

I have great testimonials from NBA Development players and coaches but I just have to get the headline done.

I was thinking:

"Who Else Wants To Discover The Secrets That NBA Ball Handling Coaches Already Know"

Who Else Wants To Discover The Secrets That Will Have YOU Playing Like An NBA Player In Just 90-Days!

I just thought of them now so yeah please help!!!
#headline #pleaseeeee
  • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
    Care to share those testimonials? There might be a good story in there that you could use as a killer hook in your headlines.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bret Ferguson
    I'm not a copy guy but I personally get tired of the "who else" line.....must work though everyone and their brother seems to use it.

    The other thing I would do is think about changing the 90 day pitch and maybe focus on something in your product where they can get results in a shorter amount of time.
    Maybe there is milestones within your 90 day program you could focus on like 7 steps to handling the basketball like a pro.....or something like that.

    I'm sure it would take some people 90 days (maybe longer) to handle the bb like a pro but down size that length of time and supersize milestones.

    Most people like quick and easy, they never want to work for things.

    I'm sure you'll get a lot of conflicting copy pitches here though.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Yes, please... avoid the "Who Else... " headline. It's very tired.

    Grab 'em by the short ones. But not with hype. Make it believable. I read
    something here very recently that is really true. Something about your claim
    cannot be more than what you can prove in your copy.

    Also, read this short thread...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...-consumer.html

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketerX
    "Amazingly Simple 3 Minute Dribbling Exercises That Took Me From Bench Warmer To 20 Point Scorer In Under 90 Days..."
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      • Profile picture of the author RefundHost
        It's OVER if they don't read the headline
        and your market may be receptive to
        this horrible humor headline ... like how the
        Sham-WOW guy, with his new
        SLAP-CHOP food chopper says"
        "You're gonna love my nuts"
        ( hey, it's on TV ... and people are talking about it )


        Watch Me Handle My Balls!

        Learn My Amazingly Simple 3 Minute Dribbling Exercises
        That Took Me From Bench Warmer To
        20 Point Starter In Just 60 Days


        This builds on the great line mentioned by another warrier
        and changes you to STARTER
        and decreases the result time
        ( more converts and ok for Clickbank )

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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Gould
    Lots of super-guru professional copywriter guys say the headline often (or always?) comes from the USP or the hook... ya' got that business figured out?

    I don't know anything about the market or the people that would buy the product, but I do play once in awhile...

    I know I'd want simple "short-cuts" (i.e. easy learning) that would give me an "unfair advantage" on the court and teach me how to break ankles Iverson style so I can brag and trash talk during (and after) the game. :p

    If that speaks to your market, maybe use that as a starting point...

    Or maybe I've read too many Carlton ads today...

    Either way, good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by Josh Gould View Post

      Lots of super-guru professional copywriter guys say the headline often (or always?) comes from the USP or the hook... ya' got that business figured out?

      I don't know anything about the market or the people that would buy the product, but I do play once in awhile...

      I know I'd want simple "short-cuts" (i.e. easy learning) that would give me an "unfair advantage" on the court and teach me how to break ankles Iverson style so I can brag and trash talk during (and after) the game. :p

      If that speaks to your market, maybe use that as a starting point...

      Or maybe I've read too many Carlton ads today...

      Either way, good luck!
      Good idea. You could adapt Carlton's famous headline -

      Amazing Secret Discovered By
      One-Legged Golfer Adds 50 Yards
      To Your Drives, Eliminates Hooks
      and Slices... And Can Slash Up To 10 Strokes From Your Game
      Almost Overnight!


      Maybe something like -

      Amazing Secret Discovered By
      NBA Development Player
      Will Have You Dribbling That Ball
      Like Badboy Denis Rodman On Steroids
      - in Just 90 Days Dude!
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  • Profile picture of the author Social Experts
    Haha I like all these ideas thanks! keep em coming!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
    Why do people want to be better dribblers?

    To create their own shot... to get more "open"... to score more points...

    To get to the basket easily... score more points... humiliate defenders... bask in ego boost.

    To cross-over and vicariously be like Mike.

    To win respect and awe of their coach... their teammates... fans... media?

    To win the gaze of girls in the stands... to potentially bed one or more at some point (!) (Wilt)

    To become a better player... and be perceived as a better player...

    To express themselves creatively. (Pistol Pete Maravich, Steve Nash, The "And1" Crew)

    To beat someone one-on-one... and feel a mano 'a' mano ego victory...

    To help their team win... to be "the hero"... "the man" teammates defer to...

    To not lose their place on the team... so they're not humiliated... crushed...

    Just a handful of motivations you might want to tap into in your copy and headline package. I'm sure there's more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zero
    Originally Posted by The Freshmaker View Post

    I've begun writing my salesletter but I'm stuck on the headline! I have a few ideas but I'll tell you about the product then my ideas.

    It is a 90-Day Basketball program to get increase your ball-handling abilities (dribbling the ball) I think the 90-Day thing is good because its like just 90-days out of your life and you'll get perfect ball handling sort of thing.

    I have great testimonials from NBA Development players and coaches but I just have to get the headline done.

    I was thinking:

    "Who Else Wants To Discover The Secrets That NBA Ball Handling Coaches Already Know"

    Who Else Wants To Discover The Secrets That Will Have YOU Playing Like An NBA Player In Just 90-Days!

    I just thought of them now so yeah please help!!!
    Have you got a big list of all the benefits of your product???
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacer
    Mention of your 90 day program should come in a secondary headline. That is a long time to get results, even if the results are world class. To hook them on your program, you should give them as close to immediate results as possible. Those that see something immediate will be locked into the program long term to get to the 90 day goal.
    Take a look at your program, and extract the simplest component to give them instant satisfaction. As someone else mentioned, "3 minute dribble exercise" or something similar is the way to go.

    This is also exactly what you should offer for your free opt-in gift for your email list. Give them something simple, something they can conquer, then sell them the rest of the program.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Originally Posted by Nathan Segal View Post

    Love those headlines. Several had me laughing out loud. Keep 'em coming!
    OK.

    Amazing Secret Dribble Actionâ„¢
    Discovered By
    One-Legged 7 Ft Tall NBA Player

    Adds Lift To Your Layups, Eliminates Fouls and Dead Balls...
    And Can Slam-Dunk Your Game

    Into The Majors - In 90 Days!

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  • Profile picture of the author Social Experts
    HAHA! You guys are genius's lovin it!
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    Hi Metronicity,

    No disrespect to you--AT ALL. I love, I admire you and I appreciate your comments and your contribution amazes me (and the majority of the time makes me giggle with delight.) And...

    Denis Rodman was NOT a particularly good dribbler.

    He was a rebounder. A rebounder EXTRAORDINAIRE. Probably the best there ever was. He FOUGHT like an animal for that ball. Read his biography. Watch the tapes and you'll see.

    But--he was awkward dribbling. He admits. He was a FIGHTER on the court.

    The moment he got that ball, he'd get rid of it. HE KNEW.

    I KNOW. I am from Chicago. And yes, I know the man and gotten plastered with him. He was a freak of nature. Screw that. He was just a freak.

    - Rick Duris

    PS: I understand. If you're not from Chicago, I understand you just don't know these subtle, nuance sort of things. (This is the beauty of copywriting. Getting into the head of your ultimate prospect who knows the little things that make all the difference.)

    For instance, when you invoke a name like "Denis Rodman," it's like a chant or a spell. You are summoning the basketball GODS. Once you do, be VERY careful with what you write next.

    Put it in the right context and you will do well.

    Again, while Denis' name is LEGEND, you have to, you must, put it in the right context. Otherwise prospects will say BS, BS BS. They'll think you don't know what you are talking about.

    Again Metronicity, no offense. I love you and what you are doing. It's just that I have intel the majority of people do not have in this context.

    To the point and in this context: I am a Chicagoan "Yah, hey dere..." Go Cubbies!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      Hi Metronicity,

      No disrespect to you--AT ALL. I love, I admire you and I appreciate your comments and your contribution amazes me (and the majority of the time makes me giggle with delight.) And...

      Denis Rodman was NOT a particularly good dribbler.

      He was a rebounder. A rebounder EXTRAORDINAIRE. Probably the best there ever was. He FOUGHT like an animal for that ball. Read his biography. Watch the tapes and you'll see.

      But--he was awkward dribbling. He admits. He was a FIGHTER on the court.

      The moment he got that ball, he'd get rid of it. HE KNEW.

      I KNOW. I am from Chicago. And yes, I know the man and gotten plastered with him. He was a freak of nature. Screw that. He was just a freak.

      - Rick Duris

      PS: I understand. If you're not from Chicago, I understand you just don't know these subtle, nuance sort of things. (This is the beauty of copywriting. Getting into the head of your ultimate prospect who knows the little things that make all the difference.)

      For instance, when you invoke a name like "Denis Rodman," it's like a chant or a spell. You are summoning the basketball GODS. Once you do, be VERY careful with what you write next.

      Put it in the right context and you will do well.

      Again, while Denis' name is LEGEND, you have to, you must, put it in the right context. Otherwise prospects will say BS, BS BS. They'll think you don't know what you are talking about.

      Again Metronicity, no offense. I love you and what you are doing. It's just that I have intel the majority of people do not have in this context.

      To the point and in this context: I am a Chicagoan "Yah, hey dere..." Go Cubbies!
      No worries. I know next to nothing about basketball. My sports are surfing/skiing/sailing/biking. Yeah I'm a lone wolf not a team player. Just feeding the kid some ideas.
      Now...did you hear about the homosexual robot?
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  • Profile picture of the author Social Experts
    Yeah lol I wouldn't have used Dennis Rodman I would've used someone that was known for their dribbling like Allen Iverson, Jason Williams.. Pretty much any guard lol
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