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So what's the most effective way to sell?

Some folks say benefits... some say character... some say impact.
Intrigue. Value. There are a thousand other opinions.

Most simply say a combination of all of the above. But I think those are all
tools to do one thing, and one thing only:

Change your reader's beliefs, about the subject at hand... or...
Themselves.

And by the end of this post... hopefully... I will have done a little changing
on your own :-)

You see, we all know it's not the physical product that sells. It's the
functional product. What it does, and it's benefit to your reader.

But WHY do people buy in the first place?

Well, you can give a variety of reasons... Satiating impulses for one. Filling
a need for another. But these all boil down to BELIEVING you need what
they're selling.

BELIEVING that Product X can solve Problem Y. And BELIEVING the price is
a fair trade for the solution.

So, what is belief? My definition is a firm way you look at the world.
Because as we know, nothing in this world is objective. Even the color
'blue' in my mind isn't the same as the color 'blue' in yours.

People can see the glass half full... or... The glass half empty. It's all
dependant on your beliefs. How you see the world.

And it's through identifying, shattering and rearranging these beliefs that
we convince people to buy our product. Yes, you can stir up existing
beliefs and emotions. Yes, you can tack on new beliefs, as well.

But think back to a time when you learned something so beautifully simple,
it changed the way you do something - forever. For instance, think back
to the time in your life when you learned the following new belief:

"Your income does NOT have to be attached to your time."

We all learned that our hours don't have to be traded for money. That's
why we're here. That's why we're happy. And that single shift in your
belief has shaped not only your past and your present - but your future,
as well.

It's made you crave information on copywriting - that's why you're here...

It's given you a pride in a job most people know NOTHING about - that's
why you buy books... buy products... buy seminars...

It's helped you meet new people, learn about new topics, acquire new
skillsets... passions... hobbies...

... This simple shift in your belief has dramatically changed your life. And
the only thing that changed YOU was one book - or one salesletter.

Someone changed your beliefs from:

"I make money by working hours"

to

"I make money by making products"

(Where, in our case, our copy is our product)

So can you see how effective a simple change in your belief was?

We can - and do - do the same thing, with our prospects. And I think
your copywriting will increase a great deal when you think in terms of
belief.

Instead of - "How can I convince this guy to get this product?"

Try thinking - "What would he have to believe to make this product
NECESSARY? UNIQUE?"

Build your launches around USP's crafted to re-design your prospect's
belief system. If you're in fitness - show him how short burst of intense
exercise will lose him MORE weight than if he hammered away for hours
and hours on a treadmill.

(This belief in itself is already at the tail end of it's trend...)

Change the way he thinks about his reality, and then position your
product as the only solution. Much easier than competing against other,
similar products.

Give him new terms to think in.

Give him new goals to work towards.

Give him new ways of acting, thinking and moving.

And give him all of these ^ while helping him achieve his dreams. Give him
new beliefs - new MINDSETS - instead of new actions, or steps to take.

Do this, and "selling the damn thing" becomes almost second nature. At
least, in my experience, it's helped a great deal :-)

I'd love to get your opinions on this. And maybe we can help build each
other's beliefs, as well.

- HR
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    Change your reader's beliefs, about the subject at hand... or...
    Themselves.
    It's very hard to change beliefs. Youl'll do better fitting in with existing beliefs.

    Build your launches around USP's crafted to re-design your prospect's
    belief system. If you're in fitness - show him how short burst of intense
    Could not disagree more. And this is in direct contradiction of people such as Eugene Schwartz.

    It is far more lucrative to "add onto" an existing, established belief system than change one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    I prefer not to go the way of 'some say this and some say that'. There's enough books and courses out there where the authors have proven methods.

    One obvious choice is 'Scientific advertising', and another is 'My life in advertising', both written by Claude Hopkins.

    And in both he goes through what works and what doesn't.

    And I study everything by Drayton Bird.

    Why guess and wonder when all the info is there for the taking?

    Personally, I'm glad I'm too stupid to do my own thinking and prefer to do what others have already done and proven to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    ... the most effective way to sell is to sell. Your customer already wants to buy or else they wouldn't be on your page (or in your store) to begin with.... Did they leave without buying? No... you forgot to sell them. And selling is like nothing when they already want to buy, which is why they are in your store, (or on your page) in the first place...
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  • Profile picture of the author Hank Rearden
    I think if you look at Eugene Schwartz more closely, you'll see his style lends itself to exactly what I'm talking about above.

    Think of it less like "Mass Desire" and more like an application of his Redefinition.

    Your goal isn't "WANT this"... Your goal is "want THIS"

    For example: You're not taking his debt and telling him he's rich.

    You're taking your prospect's debt and telling him it's an opportunity. A chance most people don't have - a life free from the burdens being "moderately comfortable" gives them. And the freedom to finally go after HAPPINESS - instead of money.

    Before - He believed he was in a losing, no win situation. Depressed, clueless where to turn.

    After - He believes he's just one step away from having the dream he's always wanted.

    And if you did your job, your product conviently has the answer.

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    • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
      Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

      I think if you look at Eugene Schwartz more closely, you'll see his style lends itself to exactly what I'm talking about above.

      Think of it less like "Mass Desire" and more like an application of his Redefinition.

      Your goal isn't "WANT this"... Your goal is "want THIS"

      For example: You're not taking his debt and telling him he's rich.

      You're taking your prospect's debt and telling him it's an opportunity. A chance most people don't have - a life free from the burdens being "moderately comfortable" gives them. And the freedom to finally go after HAPPINESS - instead of money.

      Before - He believed he was in a losing, no win situation. Depressed, clueless where to turn.

      After - He believes he's just one step away from having the dream he's always wanted.

      And if you did your job, your product conviently has the answer.

      - HR
      Hi Hank,

      Hank, I do not know you from anybody. But in this matter, selling people by getting them to change their beliefs, I believe is inappropriate advice. Either that, or you open yourself up to enormous misinterpretation.

      You don't want to change people's beliefs. You want to harness them.

      As you say--let's look more closely at what Eugene said:

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      "Basic Facts of Life for Marketers

      Writing copy is like playing the stock market, or being an atomic physicist.

      Basically, all three of these professions--copywriting, speculation and science--are exactly alike. The same keys make each one of them work. And if you realize this, you can double the effectiveness of your copy overnight.

      Consider the facts:

      All three of them deal with immense natural forces--gargantuan forces thousands of times more powerful than then men who use them. In science, they are the fundamental energies of the of the universe. In speculation, they are the billion-dollar tides and currents of the market place.
      In copywriting, they are the hopes and fears and desires of millions upon millions of men and women, all over the world.

      The men who use these forces did not create them; they can not turn them on nor shut them off; they can neither diminsh them or add to them. But they can harness them! The scientist did not create the energy of the sun; but he can direct that energy into the explosion of an atom bomb. The speculator did not create the enormous growth of the electronics industry after the war; but he can ride that growth to produce a fifty times increase in his capital. And the copy writer does not create the desire of millions of women all over America to lose weight; but he can channel that desire onto a particular product, and make its owner a millionaire."

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      Eugene had a lot more say about this, but it pretty much sums it up. You want to harness "Mass Desire."

      - Rick Duris

      PS: And if that one quote doesn't make you want to read Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene, I don't know what will. It's brilliant!

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      • Profile picture of the author perryny
        Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post


        PS: And if that one quote doesn't make you want to read Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene, I don't know what will. It's brilliant!
        Makes me want to. Great stuff.

        Thanks Rick.
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        • Profile picture of the author perryny
          I just want to add...

          I'm brand-spanking new at this. But I've read a decent amount so far.

          So from a newbie's perspective who's only able to retain so much of the immense amount of info thrown at me, one message I hear repeated time and again by just about everyone is... You can't make someone want something, nor should you try. Your job is to simply find out what they want... and give it to them.
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          • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
            Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

            I like this quote ...

            "Put yourself in the path of a charging stampede of people who are desperate to buy what you are selling." (Ben Hart)

            Offer them what they already want. Saves you the trouble of educating or changing their beliefs.

            Alex
            My sentiments exactly! When it's about sales, trying to be a missionary and changing people's beliefs is a prescription for pitiful ROI.

            Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

            Hi Hank,

            Hank, I do not know you from anybody. But in this matter, selling people by getting them to change their beliefs, I believe is inappropriate advice. Either that, or you open yourself up to enormous misinterpretation.

            You don't want to change people's beliefs. You want to harness them.

            [....]

            Eugene had a lot more say about this, but it pretty much sums it up. You want to harness "Mass Desire."

            - Rick Duris

            PS: And if that one quote doesn't make you want to read Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene, I don't know what will. It's brilliant!


            I love the way you put this, Rick:

            "You don't want to change people's beliefs. You want to harness them."

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            • Profile picture of the author Hank Rearden
              Maybe we've gotten a touch off topic...

              Take a look at the examples - this HAS happened to you, in the past. And it's turned you into a rabid buyer.

              Maybe I mislabeled it. Because really it's not his beliefs you're changing, it's his FOCUS. What he sees as truth. Not what he firmly believes, like the sky is blue.

              You're taking his FOCUS - which is going to be shaky, or he would be successful at whatever area you're selling him info in - and shining light on part of his situation he's never seen before. Something conducive to the sale. And something that changes him as a person, for the long haul.

              You're helping him see what part of his MIND has been holding him back. Showing him how it can give him all the success he's ever wanted. And then positioning your product as the fulfillment of that promise.

              So let's take a look at the topic at hand. What are your thoughts then?

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              • Profile picture of the author perryny
                Hi Hank,

                I don't think we've gotten off topic.

                Look... My product teaches computer techs how to break free of the corporate treadmill and start a computer consulting business of their own. I show them why it's easier than they think and I provide them with all the tools they need to get their business off the ground quickly.

                My target customer is out there looking for a job. Maybe he's looking for a better job than he's got now... maybe he's been canned and just needs to find a new source of income.

                I firmly believe that using the skills they've already got, they can become their own boss and I can show them how. But just because I believe they can do it, doesn't by any stretch mean they believe they can.

                And I've set myself the task to change their belief in what they should be doing with their career or what they're capable of.

                Now, if I do my job as a marketer as you say, I should be able to persuade my target into giving my suggested career path a shot. This is my goal and intention and I hope to be immensely successful at it... and improve the lives of many fellow computer techs in the process. Once I amass a solid number of success stories, they'll go a long way in providing a strong proof element that will give other on-the-fence customers the confidence that they can too can achieve financial and professional independence.

                But... from a marketing standpoint as I've come to understand, entering this market and trying to change the belief of my target customer of what they should be doing... and that they should buy my product so they can accomplish what I'm trying to convince them that they should be doing... is a mistake.

                What would have been a smarter move is to develop my product to target small computer consulting businesses, helping them to grow beyond where they're currently at.

                If my product could be the vehicle that helps these small computer consulting companies to suck in new customers like a vacuum cleaner on steriods... NOW I'd be onto something.

                I'm not trying to change the belief of my target customer in any way. They already believe they can succeed in business or they wouldn't have started one to begin with. I'm just giving them a new tool that will help them succeed faster. And if I can provide proof that my product works, my job should be a snap.

                I'm no longer trying to change beliefs... I'm only figuring out what my customer wants... and giving it to him.

                Now that I know what my challenges are... let's get back to work and see if I can pull it off.

                -Rob
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              • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
                Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

                Maybe we've gotten a touch off topic...

                Take a look at the examples - this HAS happened to you, in the past. And it's turned you into a rabid buyer.

                Maybe I mislabeled it. Because really it's not his beliefs you're changing, it's his FOCUS. What he sees as truth. Not what he firmly believes, like the sky is blue.

                You're taking his FOCUS - which is going to be shaky, or he would be successful at whatever area you're selling him info in - and shining light on part of his situation he's never seen before. Something conducive to the sale. And something that changes him as a person, for the long haul.

                You're helping him see what part of his MIND has been holding him back. Showing him how it can give him all the success he's ever wanted. And then positioning your product as the fulfillment of that promise.

                So let's take a look at the topic at hand. What are your thoughts then?

                - HR
                Hi Hank,

                I don't know about the word "focus," Hank. I think in the context you are presenting, a more appropriate word would be "persuasion."

                As a for instance, with regards to persuasion, one of the proven formulas is AIDA.

                Attention, Interest, Desire Action.

                So when you describe "focus" above, I read "attention" as a piece to the puzzle.

                Nothing more. And while focus or attention are invaluable as a copywriter, there are other pieces.

                Hank, I am only trying to clarify. That's all.

                I want to understand exactly what you are saying. But unfortunately, I am not as educated as you. And I want to learn.

                I can tell by the words you use, the concepts and your phrasing you are smarter than me.

                If you are going to contribute, I am humbly requesting you ratchet up your clarity, specificity and preciseness of language.

                - Rick Duris
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    Fair enough. About the only thing I can find is "contradiction of present (false) beliefs" on page 146.

    Nothing, but nothing, about radical change. Everything else is about -- and I quote from the text:

    Most adults have done their basic learning of these beliefs when they were children. ....they laid down the primary channels of belief that their minds would follow for the rest of their days.
    ...To ask them to shatter even one of these already-established lines of belief -- to plunge into uncertainty again -- to be forced to reassemble their beliefs in new, untested ways -- is to ask them to become children again.
    ...unless their entire conceptual world has crumbled around them -- they simply will not do it.
    ...If you violate your prospect's established beliefs in the slightest degree -- either in context or direction -- then nothing you promise him, no matter how appealing, can save your ad
    Upon rereading, he seems to leave little wriggle room.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      I like this quote ...

      "Put yourself in the path of a charging stampede of people who are desperate to buy what you are selling." (Ben Hart)

      Offer them what they already want. Saves you the trouble of educating or changing their beliefs.

      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    What are your thoughts then?
    I think you can work within an existing belief structure and reframe an issue.

    Let's say weight loss. You can't say "this weight loss plan will work" when most people you're advertising to have tried three plans before.

    If you give the reason why you failed is X, and therefore Y, your chances go up. If X is not the reader's fault, better still.

    SlimQuick understands how women lose weight. In contrast, most amateur pitches contradict the existing belief structure of women. SLIMQUICK’s Ultra Fat Burner formula works in 6 ways to help address physiological barriers women face in losing weight.

    They already believe they can succeed in business or they wouldn't have started one to begin with.
    What most believe is that they're doing everything possible to grow their business, right now. Same thing as weight loss. They're tried flyers, or direct response, or whatever. They believe it doesn't work for them.

    Joe Polish figured out the key a long time ago. He applied a variety of techniques to his own carpet cleaning business. Then carpet cleaners believed he could help them too.
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    • Profile picture of the author perryny
      Originally Posted by John_S View Post

      What most believe is that they're doing everything possible to grow their business, right now. Same thing as weight loss. They're tried flyers, or direct response, or whatever. They believe it doesn't work for them.
      I think we're on the same page on this. It's not that they think they've done everything right and it just doesn't work for them. And it's most certainly not that they don't believe they're capable of running their business (at least I hope they haven't reached that point).

      Rather, they believe what they've tried so far hasn't worked and maybe they're afraid that the effective methods that obviously exist but have been eluding them will be too expensive to implement.

      If they're shown a solution that says "Try this. It WILL work and you can't afford NOT to try it"... if the sales letter is good, they'll buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Collette
    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    So what's the most effective way to sell?

    Some folks say benefits... some say character... some say impact.
    Intrigue. Value. There are a thousand other opinions.

    Most simply say a combination of all of the above. But I think those are all
    tools to do one thing, and one thing only:

    Change your reader's beliefs, about the subject at hand... or...
    Themselves.
    Uphill battle. The nature of humans is to seek security and predictability. When you try to change an existing belief structure, you're going to resonate with only about 2% of the population, the Innovators.

    Innovators are those folks who are always the first to try something new, go somewhere new, experience something new. These people thrive on "going where no man has gone before". They willingly seek out risk, believing that any amount of risk justifies even an infintesimal possibility of reward.

    So, if your product is aimed at this (roughly) 2% of the population, have at it.

    But if you want to sell to greater numbers of people than this, you're going to be slogging much, much harder than you should.


    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    You see, we all know it's not the physical product that sells. It's the
    functional product. What it does, and it's benefit to your reader.
    And this is where most people stop. Consider, however, that 'benefits' are the results of functional 'features'. Benefits are what features do.

    But not what features do for the prospect.

    When marketers limit their scope to features/benefits they usually miss the emotional sweet spot. Which leads us to your next point:

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    But WHY do people buy in the first place?

    Well, you can give a variety of reasons... Satiating impulses for one. Filling
    a need for another.
    No need for a variety of reasons. People buy from emotion. They justify the emotional decision with logic.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    But these all boil down to BELIEVING you need what
    they're selling.

    BELIEVING that Product X can solve Problem Y. And BELIEVING the price is
    a fair trade for the solution.
    IMO, this is the sort of 'problem-based' approach that so often sends marketers off target: "You have Problem X. My product solves Problem X. Therefore it's obvious that you need my product."

    The problem (pun intended) with 'problem-based' aproaches is that the focus remains squarely on the product, not the prospect. And certainly not on the prospect's emotional wants.

    Which is where the buying triggers are located. Deep within the prospect's wants.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    So, what is belief? My definition is a firm way you look at the world.
    Because as we know, nothing in this world is objective. Even the color
    'blue' in my mind isn't the same as the color 'blue' in yours.

    People can see the glass half full... or... The glass half empty. It's all
    dependant on your beliefs. How you see the world.

    And it's through identifying, shattering and rearranging these beliefs that
    we convince people to buy our product.
    This premise assumes that people want (there's that word again) their beliefs 'identified' by someone else (most people, as you observed, believe their beliefs are 'firm'), and furthermore, that they want those beliefs 'shattered' or 'rearranged'.

    Unless you're in the self-help market (and, in some cases, even then), you're usually going to have to do a lot of convincing. You're going to be working much, much, harder than you need to.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    Yes, you can stir up existing
    beliefs and emotions. Yes, you can tack on new beliefs, as well.

    But think back to a time when you learned something so beautifully simple,
    it changed the way you do something - forever.
    When the student is ready, the teacher appears.

    There is rarely an instance when the answer to a problem is not apparent. However, if we are singularly focused on looking at the problem, we will not notice the solution in plain sight.

    For example, a recent study looked at people who considered themselves 'lucky' and 'unlucky'.

    Both groups were presented with identical situations and events. 'Unlucky' people saw fewer, if any, ways to change their situation. 'Lucky' people saw those opportunites all around them.

    Remember, both groups were given the same events and situations. The 'lucky' people 'looked' for opportunity, and so they found it. The 'unlucky' people did not, and so they didn't.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    For instance, think back
    to the time in your life when you learned the following new belief:

    "Your income does NOT have to be attached to your time."

    We all learned that our hours don't have to be traded for money. That's
    why we're here. That's why we're happy.
    Or are we happy because we feel more in control of our future, get to spend more time doing the things we enjoy and with the people we love, pay bills without a second thought, etc, etc.?

    A passive income business (product) detaches your earning potential from your time (feature). The result of that feature functioning is 'freedom' (benefit). The result of the benefit is more opportunities for happiness and personal satisfaction.

    Which is what most people want.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    ...I think
    your copywriting will increase a great deal when you think in terms of
    belief.

    Instead of - "How can I convince this guy to get this product?"

    Try thinking - "What would he have to believe to make this product
    NECESSARY? UNIQUE?"
    Better yet, think, "How does my product/service help my prospect get what he wants?"

    A solution doesn't have to be either necessary or unique. It just has to help the prospect get what he wants.

    For example, to solve the problem of, "What to watch NFL games on", nobody needs a $,4000, 59" flat screen TV. It doesn't provide food, shelter, or protection - which are the only things people really need.

    And, to watch the games, a $200, 13-incher would let someone see the same feed as the guy watching the game on that $4,000 TV.

    So why would somebody throw down $4,000 for something they could get for $200?

    Simple. They want.

    And what they want, 'ain't a TV.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    Build your launches around USP's crafted to re-design your prospect's
    belief system. ...

    Change the way he thinks about his reality, and then position your
    product as the only solution. Much easier than competing against other,
    similar products.
    Even easier: Build your marketing concepts around the way your product answers his want. Better yet, build your product that way.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    Give him new terms to think in.

    Give him new goals to work towards.

    Give him new ways of acting, thinking and moving.
    Work, work, and more work.

    People hate to work.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    ...And give him all of these ^ while helping him achieve his dreams. Give him
    new beliefs - new MINDSETS - instead of new actions, or steps to take.

    Do this, and "selling the damn thing" becomes almost second nature. At
    least, in my experience, it's helped a great deal :-)
    If you sell to an existing want, and adjust your approach to exsiting beliefs, you will sell even more. Seriously; it works every time.

    Originally Posted by Hank Rearden View Post

    I'd love to get your opinions on this. And maybe we can help build each
    other's beliefs, as well.

    - HR
    Disclaimer: All of the above: my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    One great insight I got from Gary Bencivenga is how you can
    increase your "proof" dramatically and make more sales because
    of the increased belief.

    To paraphrase, he basically says people have to believe you before they'll buy
    and increasing the amount of proof can multiply your sales unlike any other method.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      Originally Posted by DougBarger View Post

      One great insight I got from Gary Bencivenga is how you can
      increase your "proof" dramatically and make more sales because
      of the increased belief.

      To paraphrase, he basically says people have to believe you before they'll buy
      and increasing the amount of proof can multiply your sales unlike any other method.

      Hope this helps.
      Very true Doug.

      In the final analysis, there's only three reasons why a prospect doesn't buy ...

      1. He doesn't want what you have to sell
      2. He can't afford it
      3. He doesn't believe you

      Not much can be done about #1 and #2, but #3 can be influenced significantly.

      I just went through my list of persuasion triggers and counted ten that deal directly with believability: Authority, Consistency, Credibility, Demonstration, Expertise, Honesty, Integrity, Proof of claims, Social proof, and Specifics.

      Alex
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        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        Very true Doug.

        In the final analysis, there's only three reasons why a prospect doesn't buy ...

        1. He doesn't want what you have to sell
        2. He can't afford it
        3. He doesn't believe you

        Not much can be done about #1 and #2, but #3 can be influenced significantly.

        I just went through my list of persuasion triggers and counted ten that deal directly with believability: Authority, Consistency, Credibility, Demonstration, Expertise, Honesty, Integrity, Proof of claims, Social proof, and Specifics.

        Alex

        Great stuff, Alex.
        It is such a good analysis you made. I learned a lot. I will keep these in mind when I am going to launch my own product in the near future.
        Thanks again!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author UnleashReality
    Hank you LEGEND!!

    really really liked this post. warm tingly feelings got my armhairs dancing in fields of goosbumps.

    This ties amazingly in to an idea i've been playing around with lately: writing is all about emotionally affecting your readers.

    And, i may be misinterpreting where you're coming from, but i think that the people who replied to this post don't realise that you can change their belief TEMPORARILY via your writing and then make the lasting change through your product.

    What you say about giving new mindsets is SUPER KEY but i'd prolly use the term "new mind states". People think mindsets are solid - and i agree with you, you can give them new mindsets. Mindsets and beliefs are definitely malleable. But they follow mind states. Make them feel differently for a while and solidify it by giving them results and their mindsets change. mindsets and beliefs are more stuck than the transient states of right now which, collectively make up these mindsets and beliefs.

    trying to overhaul your prospect's belief system is tough. But chaning the way they feel RIGHT NOW is easy. That's where being an awesome writer comes in. And if you can do that, then you can get them to buy a product which will buy you another couple of hours to remix their perspective. And THAT will give you enough time to change their belief just enough that it takes big shifts by itself.

    RickDuris is also on point but i think that the difference between what you said and he says is a semantic one.

    Your reply about it being a FOCUS thing def clarifies it a lil but you've gotta recognise the transient nature of it all. You've been really excited to do something only to drop it a day later. Not that it really matters but that's what makes using the more fixed term 'belief' a lil shady

    really really amazing post though.
    supremo respect

    be cool to keep in touch. PM me your site or summen
    unleashreality
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