Trying Again and Again...

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Ok, this is like the 10th time I've redone my page and would like some constructive criticisim if you would and the link is in my sig box thanks in advance!
  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Same criticism as last time - I don't have a clue what you're selling, so why would I buy?

    There are several writers on this board who'll give you a quality sales page for just one week of your earnings. You'd do far better to stop messing around and hire someone.

    Or - if you really want to do it yourself - you need to start studying the fundamentals of copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    just curious...how don't you know what I'm selling? it says it right on the page 10 internet marketing courses...
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      just curious...how don't you know what I'm selling? it says it right on the page 10 internet marketing courses...
      It was probably just my stupidity, but thanks for pointing that out, it's crystal clear now.

      As Ewen said, turn on the traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    Looking good enough to go out to market.

    I would change "course" to "system" as system sounds more repeatable and kinks have been smoothed out.

    Also course makes it a claim in which you haven't backed up.

    Once it's got a steady stream of traffic to it, keep testing different elements.

    All the best,
    Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Noboday wants "10 IM courses" for $47.

    What does the market REALLY want, Thomas?

    Yes, I'm making you work for the answer...

    ...this time we're gonna make it stick.

    Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    They want to make money quickly and easily... with little or no effort. Or they want the secrets to...
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      They want to make money quickly and easily... with little or no effort. Or they want the secrets to...
      Now, if that's so - where are you promising to help them get that?

      In short, you're not...

      Sell the outcome, not the process.

      Sell the result, not the method.

      Sell!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aj Wilson
    Brian smacked the nail straight on the head...

    Sell the "Ultimate End Result" (and what that means to them),
    Not the Product it'self (10 courses).

    They can get their "Ultimate End Result"... But they just need to know how...
    and that's what (product) can help them do... quickly, easily and effectively..

    without, big problem one, two or three...

    You've also got great proof elements, In the video I'd emphasize
    what they're getting when they watch the first video...

    then what they're getting if they opt-in... (if you wanted to add one)

    then after opt-in, what they're getting with the course.

    But the boyz here are right... fire up some traffic... your customers
    will tell you if it works or not... and if it doesnt, change it till it does

    all the best mate,
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    • Profile picture of the author ASCW
      http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...F/Copyhelp.jpg

      1# Wtf is that about? Makes you look spammy and illegitimate.

      #2 This is way to much stuff hitting my eyes at the same time? Where are my eyes supposed to go instantly? As Andrew mentioned earlier "what are you selling?" Now the problem isn't that it is impossible to understand what you are selling the problem is
      I don't understand what you are offering AUTOMATICALLY WITHIN ONE SECOND of being on the page. You need to make your message loud and more importantly CLEAR. That is far too jumbled for me to make any sense of instantly. Also that in combination with #1 is going to lead to VERY HIGH bounce rates.

      #3 You keep saying
      "If XYZ: this is for you."

      But why do I care? Why is it for me? Can you prove it?

      Now I must say that your video is pretty good as far as proof is concerned. But proof is only one piece of the puzzle.

      #4: Where the hell is your copy?
      There is more to copywriting than: This is what my thing does, and this is why you want it.

      Either shell out the money for a copywriter or hit the books and start getting a lot of practice.
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      Site being revamped.

      If you want help with copy stuff, pm me.

      Cool.

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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Like Brian said: Sell the outcome, not the process. Sell the result, not the method.

    Not to be old-fashioned, but "sell the sizzle, not the steak." And incorporate a system of continuous improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    A bit of feedback for ya:

    I might be alone on this one, but I'm not sure those testimonials are doing you any favors...

    In fact, quite possibly the opposite.

    Personally, they leave a bad taste in my mouth and make me want to click away.

    (read: they "appear" un-legit)

    They're waaay too easy to fake. I'd toss 'em or get something better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Schwenk
    The whole thing just has a bad vibe for me.

    First, you claim that you obtained these secrets by posing as an "investor".

    You're basically claiming that your product's backbone - if not the entire thing - is composed of information you duped from other people.

    True or not, ethics aside...

    Secondly, for the sake of logic, if I were successfully making millions online... I wouldn't even be interested enough in selling my core business to someone to divulge this information to you in the first place.

    If anything, I'd point you in the direction of my products/coaching...


    In other words, I would really consider taking a second look at how you're positioning your product. I get the whole "damn the man" approach. But your angle, testimonials, etc. give me more of a vibe that you'd get from a guy trying to sell you a collection of bootlegged movies.

    Also, I'd change "stolen" in your headline to something else. The only thing that comes to mind at the moment is something along the lines of "insider". Again, I'm no expert - that's just preference, given the way everything else is presented.

    Just so you know, you have a typo on "millionaire".

    Keep in mind that your bullet points list a bunch of different topics that you cover. While variety may be a good thing, some people may not be interested in everything you are offering.

    In that case, why would I pay $47 to get a undisclosed amount of information on e-mail marketing?

    You might consider breaking down your product's information to give yourself the option to better target different prospects.

    One thought that comes to mind is perhaps breaking down those ten topics into ten individual reports.

    Just a few thoughts...

    Good luck,
    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Warren.Richards
    Is it only me who is not able to get access to your page or you have pulled down your page...?
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    • Profile picture of the author Hugh Thyer
      Just some quick questions that hit me...
      If you just got these secrets out of these experts, how did they end up as courses?
      Who are the experts?
      What did you do to verify that the secrets actually work?

      Your letter lacks credibility because of these types of unanswered questions.

      Incidentally, if you're answering all the questions in this thread, good chance you haven't answered them in your page. The things that are confusing everyone here are the same things that will confuse your prospect.

      How did you get the 10 courses BTW?

      Hugh
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