Which copy is better?

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I've created two sites promoting the same product to different audience and the copy is slightly different on each. I plan on doing an A/B test but wanted to get some opinions from the folks here.

Site #1 - myballoonbiz.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

Site #2: easilydoable.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

I would really appreciate some feedback. If neither copy is good, please don't hesitate to say so.

Thanks!
-Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
    Originally Posted by SamirRastogi View Post

    I've created two sites promoting the same product to different audience and the copy is slightly different on each. I plan on doing an A/B test but wanted to get some opinions from the folks here.

    Site #1 - myballoonbiz.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    Site #2: easilydoable.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    I would really appreciate some feedback. If neither copy is good, please don't hesitate to say so.

    Thanks!
    -Samir
    To be a true A/B split test, the target market must be the same. Not different.

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgeJafen
      Site #1 is clear and to the point. Much success.
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    • Profile picture of the author CrashB
      Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

      To be a true A/B split test, the target market must be the same. Not different.

      Alex
      I approve! Test it and keep testing it!!

      However it doesnt look complete IMO.

      I would not put an opt in as well as a buy button. It just confuses people.

      Why so cheap? Is this a report or a book? Usually reports are free unless youre planning to upsell...

      Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    Alex is right, different audiences will give you different feedback, but which won't be comparable.

    Like split testing tampons with a male audience and a female audience...

    However I'll tell you now without even reading the copy all the way through, myballoonbiz is better purely by merit of being easier to read.

    You gotta break it up more than with easilydoable.

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  • Profile picture of the author bphalen7
    In agreement with the first 2 posts. but for me personally i do like myballoonbiz.. it is easier to read as toniy stated above. good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
    Thanks everyone for your feedback. I actually didn't mean to write 'targeting different audience' what I meant was that I was targeting the audiences differently. Easilydoable is meant to drive people to the site through clickbank and myballoonbiz is meant to drive traffic via mailing lists and other methods.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Roberts
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      Site 1 has more elaborate copy for me..But for results, I would go for site 2..
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    Oh I get it... so essentially the same market, just different traffic methods, that seems fair enough.

    One 50 year old male using clickbank.
    One 50 year old male using email.

    I think you'll be fine

    Having said that, I didn't even MENTION the concept itself...

    A guy I just finished a course with kept using 'bouncy castle secrets' as his go-to example of a product... turned out to be real.

    I think you might be the same guy
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    Ok now I've actually taken the time to read through the copy (sorry I didn't do it earlier :p) I have a few other pointers you might be able to make use of:

    I like the vibe of myballoonbiz better, because it's more upbeat. I wouldn't dwell too much on the accident because the more empathetic prospects might feel a little bad, which while at least you're making them feel 'something', it's not really what you need.

    So the intro paragraph to myballoonbiz is better in my opinion.

    My next point... I don't actually know what your product is. In one case I get the obvious impression it's about selling balloons... but then with the 'make it easy bit' in easilydoable, I think it's more like a general business concept on how to simplify processes or something with the light-hearted example of balloon distribution.

    What I would suggest is a simple 'What you get' section... and bullet point that bad boy

    e.g.

    What you get with ETHADWBD:
    • Introduction to selling balloons - This will build you the rock solid foundation YOU need to set you straight on the path the massive balloon riches
    • 6 Tips to improve your balloon animal skills - So you can wow the kids, impress the adults and get more repeat business than you can handle!
    You could basically just list each chapter, turn it into a bullet point and say WHY that's good for the customer.

    Remember benefits man

    So ALL in ALL:
    • Stucture - Go with myballoonbiz style
    • Clarity - Make sure the reader knows exactly what the report covers, an overview, and tell them why they should be interested
    • Reason for the Product - Just go with something closer to 'I got hurt, couldn't work, decided to make the most of my time by writing a report that would teach others how to replicate my successful business!'
    Note: Don't say you wrote it for extra cash because you couldn't work :p But do keep in the lemon thing, that's good
    • Include bullet points following the structure of 'Feature (product element) -> Benefit (why that's good for the customer)
    • Include the bullet points before the guarantee, but after 'the idea'
    Hope that helps you out a little sir,

    All the very best,

    Adam
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    • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
      Originally Posted by Toniy View Post

      Ok now I've actually taken the time to read through the copy (sorry I didn't do it earlier :p) I have a few other pointers you might be able to make use of:

      I like the vibe of myballoonbiz better, because it's more upbeat. I wouldn't dwell too much on the accident because the more empathetic prospects might feel a little bad, which while at least you're making them feel 'something', it's not really what you need.

      So the intro paragraph to myballoonbiz is better in my opinion.

      My next point... I don't actually know what your product is. In one case I get the obvious impression it's about selling balloons... but then with the 'make it easy bit' in easilydoable, I think it's more like a general business concept on how to simplify processes or something with the light-hearted example of balloon distribution.

      What I would suggest is a simple 'What you get' section... and bullet point that bad boy

      e.g.

      What you get with ETHADWBD:
      • Introduction to selling balloons - This will build you the rock solid foundation YOU need to set you straight on the path the massive balloon riches
      • 6 Tips to improve your balloon animal skills - So you can wow the kids, impress the adults and get more repeat business than you can handle!
      You could basically just list each chapter, turn it into a bullet point and say WHY that's good for the customer.

      Remember benefits man

      So ALL in ALL:
      • Stucture - Go with myballoonbiz style
      • Clarity - Make sure the reader knows exactly what the report covers, an overview, and tell them why they should be interested
      • Reason for the Product - Just go with something closer to 'I got hurt, couldn't work, decided to make the most of my time by writing a report that would teach others how to replicate my successful business!'
      Note: Don't say you wrote it for extra cash because you couldn't work :p But do keep in the lemon thing, that's good
      • Include bullet points following the structure of 'Feature (product element) -> Benefit (why that's good for the customer)
      • Include the bullet points before the guarantee, but after 'the idea'
      Hope that helps you out a little sir,

      All the very best,

      Adam
      Hi Adam..this is very helpful. Thank you so much for taking time out to provide all this wonderful feedback! I will get to work right away.

      -Samir
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      • Profile picture of the author Toniy
        Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

        (Toniy) Adam's great assessment above is spot on...

        I couldn't have said it better myself...(I didn't have to! )

        (thanks for saving me all that time, Adam! )
        Hey it's what I'm here for man

        Any time you need stuff like this done for ya, give me a shout and I'll get typin' :p

        Originally Posted by SamirRastogi View Post

        Hi Adam..this is very helpful. Thank you so much for taking time out to provide all this wonderful feedback! I will get to work right away.

        -Samir
        That's no problem at all Samir, thank you

        I enjoy it from time to time... makes me feel smart and makes me look cool all at the same time
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  • (Toniy) Adam's great assessment above is spot on...

    I couldn't have said it better myself...(I didn't have to! )

    (thanks for saving me all that time, Adam! )
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  • Profile picture of the author ChartTraderZ
    Both of them are very amateurishly done.. If I must choose, I'll choose How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons.

    Though honestly, don't be lazy. Having a good copy means the difference between success and failure, so take your time, read copy of other people in similar niches (money making, leisure) and just copy what works.

    And add some more content, it is very short ...
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    • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
      Originally Posted by ChartTraderZ View Post

      Both of them are very amateurishly done.. If I must choose, I'll choose How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons.

      Though honestly, don't be lazy. Having a good copy means the difference between success and failure, so take your time, read copy of other people in similar niches (money making, leisure) and just copy what works.

      And add some more content, it is very short ...
      Hi ChartTraderz. Thanks for your feedback. Can you give me some pointers on how you feel it can be improved. I've deliberately left the copy short. I felt it was not necessary to write a lot of copy to get the point across.
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      • Profile picture of the author Toniy
        Originally Posted by ChartTraderZ View Post

        Both of them are very amateurishly done.. If I must choose, I'll choose How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons.

        Though honestly, don't be lazy. Having a good copy means the difference between success and failure, so take your time, read copy of other people in similar niches (money making, leisure) and just copy what works.

        And add some more content, it is very short ...
        I'm not sure how helpful you were trying to be there traderz, but you felt a little short of the mark. It seemed more insulting than anything to be honest. Compare your feedback with mine above to see what I mean.

        You've basically just said 'this is crap... do what other's do well'... I think he already knows that, that's why he's asking us.

        Originally Posted by SamirRastogi View Post

        Hi ChartTraderz. Thanks for your feedback. Can you give me some pointers on how you feel it can be improved. I've deliberately left the copy short. I felt it was not necessary to write a lot of copy to get the point across.
        Copy only needs to be as long as it needs to be Samir.

        If you can pack in all the necessary elements:
        • Present the problem (make them feel it)
        • Suggest the solution (make them feel it)
        • Introduce your product
        • Tell them what's in it (and why it's good for them)
        • Ask for the sale
        (... for the sake of conversation...)

        Then it can be 500 words or it can be 5,000 words... it all depends on what the prospect needs to hear, how educated they are already (if they know nothing about balloon distribution, you may need to write more to educate them) and how much you need to say before you would be convinced to buy the product.

        Ask yourself 'Do they have a logical reason to buy it, and have I made them feel strongly enough about the need to buy it?'

        If you haven't, change what you've written or add more.

        If you have, clean it up a bit, tighten it up and you're good to go.

        They'll keep reading for as long as you have something relevant to say to your audience.

        'Content' just seems like a bull**** words I'm afraid. It means nothing in copywriting.

        Thanks,

        Adam
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by ChartTraderZ View Post

      Both of them are very amateurishly done..
      There is another OLD Warrior who visits the WF, his name is JF Straw. His very AMATEURISH site is at Real Business Opportunities, Income Opportunities & Home Based Businesses

      There isn't a day that goes by that Jim doesn't hear from someone like you offering to make his site more professional...and his response is something like: "let me know when you get to $250,000.00 per MONTH in sales, then I'll listen to you"...

      Go visit Jim and offer your services, if you know how to make a site more professional and with better copy...cause Jim's only sold over 400 million dollars worth of products so far, he could use some help.

      gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
    Hi Adam...I've updated the copy at myballoonbiz.com based on your suggestions: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    As a token of my appreciation, I would like to give you a free copy of my report if it's something that interests you. My business model is probably something you've never seen or heard of and as soon as you read the report, you'll come to know that it's very doable and requires negligible investment to get started. Only thing is, this is an offline business...not something you can do sitting in front of a computer.

    Let me know.
    Thanks
    -Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    That's much better Samir

    Just one more point to make... with the report break down, add just a tad more on the benefits... e.g.

    Introduction: Explains how and why my unique balloon distribution business works
    (I know it sounds crazy, making money with balloons, but I think you'll be surprised at how simple it is to make $300 a DAY and have FUN doing it!)

    Instructions: Illustrated point by point instructions on how you can get started right away
    (You can get started this week and I've left nothing to chance... I'm spilling all my secrets here)

    Tips & Hints: Useful tips to help you avoid the mistakes I've made
    (Becoming a Master Balloon-Smith wasn't easy, there were setbacks and pitfalls, but with all my experience I can now show you how to avoid every single one of them)

    Photos
    : Photos showing the idea being implemented
    (It'll be like following me around for a day, getting the business set up and running... and seeing exactly how I earn $300 every day!)

    Try it out

    I'll drop you a PM, thanks for the gratitude sir, you're a good man
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Not really my cup of tea, but if I had to.. I lean towards the biz version however, I would do a grammar check... I would take the bonus section off ( I know.. "there must be bonuses!" but still, in this case they distract - and they lack oomph), I would go against the flow and shorten the content considerably, cut out anything that explicitly describes what it is all about and rely on the somewhat exotic balloons and

      It works. Money back. Guaranteed.


      to do the heavy lifting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    That's not bad advice if I do say so myself

    Having the chance to look inside the product itself, with thanks to Samir... the system is actually incredible!

    Honestly (and Samir won't mind me saying this) I looked at the report almost as a kind of joke, or morbid curiosity... and to my utter disbelief it was an excellent business model that will bring about everyone's dreams of 'offline gold' so to speak... great money, very little work.... opportunity spotting in its purest form.

    However the bonuses are included within the ebook itself, as opposed to separate reports (which I would recommend he does)... those methods aren't as high impact as the main report, but do act as... well... nice bonuses

    The package itself is a nice, simple, short, sharp, crisp & clean business model / offline method that delivers on its promise.

    It doesn't need hype, so I think Mr. D certainly has a point here.

    Just hit them over and over with benefits, let them find the bonuses as nice surprises (or make small mention to them in the copy, but don't make them the centrepiece).

    Your product is good enough to sell on its own, it doesn't need marketing 'tactics'. Keep it simple... benefits, benefits, benefits, imagine the possibilites, ask for the sale
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    Oh Boy where do we start?
    The copy is terrible, there is nothing compelling to keep anyone reading. It is flat and lifeless
    Get hold of some internet offers that make you want to buy and handwrite them a few times, then get some direct mail pieces or swipe files read some of them and hand write them….
    DON’T TYPE THEM, although typing uses both hands it will not activate your imagination and stimulate you.

    By handwriting a few great offers you should get in a frame of mind that will serve you better.
    You will learn how great writers formulate their words.

    Get a swipe file, start re-writing some of these letters to fit your product, you will learn a lot from this and may end up with some great copy.

    Invest in a copy of words that sell.

    Add some images and a video if possible, pay someone on fiverr to write you a sales letter, It won’t cost much, and it probably won’t be that good, BUT, it may give you a hook or a style you can adapt.

    There are to many I, me my.

    It’s talking to “workable for anyone” but really no one. Do some research and find your market.
    If I could fill New York Stadium with your best buyers, Who would they be? Write to them and no one else.

    Hope some of this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    The acid proof, Have you lauched them? Has anyone bought them? No one opinion on this or any other forum is really that valid, we are all experts until no one buys. It takes time to write a great sales letter. I'm sorry to tell you but you should be tweaking and testing this offer for years to come. If you do you will end up with somehting that has life and value and will sell at high conversions. But it is the real paying customers you should really be asking. Get them in the real world and start tweaking one thing at a time.

    best wishes with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
    Thanks again for all the feedback.

    I have incorporated much of what Adam has suggested and would appreciate more such feedback where I am made aware of specific problems with my copy. On my easilydoable.com site, I've tried to use the following rules suggested by Adam:
    • Present the problem (make them feel it)
    • Suggest the solution (make them feel it)
    • Introduce your product
    • Tell them what's in it (and why it's good for them)
    • Ask for the sale
    In the last 3 days, I've received 5 orders from easilydoable.com and 3 orders from myballoonbiz.com. That tells me that the copy is not horrible but it can certainly use improvement.

    Thanks
    -Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    What's the conversion rate Samir?

    Conversion rate is the be all and end all in measuring copy effectiveness after all

    If it's 8 sales for 15 people, the copy as it stands is excellent

    If it's 8 sales in 400... it's still not actually that bad... but could certainly be tweaked.
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    • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
      Originally Posted by Toniy View Post

      What's the conversion rate Samir?

      Conversion rate is the be all and end all in measuring copy effectiveness after all

      If it's 8 sales for 15 people, the copy as it stands is excellent

      If it's 8 sales in 400... it's still not actually that bad... but could certainly be tweaked.
      Hi Adam..


      From Oct 4-7
      On EasilyDoable.com, 143 total visitors and 5 purchases.
      On MyBalloonBiz.com, 88 total visitors and 3 purchases.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    So EasilyDoable had a conversion rate of 3.5%

    And MyBalloonBiz had a conversion rate of 3.4%

    There are some circles that would say this kind of conversion rate for untargetd traffic was pretty good, and that you should focus more heavily on traffic generation.

    Others would say keep tweaking your copy to increase the conversions.

    Only thing I could think of off of the top of my head is to really focus on the benefits of your system, and not balloons. Just throw balloons in as a minor sidenote, to make the 'myballoonbiz' domain name and report name relevant.

    In fact, it might be a good idea to simply say:

    "LET ME BE CLEAR: This report is NOT about balloons... this is simply the offline business model I use to earn $300 per day, that eliminates all risk for my clients, meaning I get a LOT of business... I just happen to do it with balloons! But you can try it with anything as I'll show you inside the report."

    So the best points of your system are:
    • Massive targetted offline traffic for your product (meaning higher exposure and in turn sales)
    • Risk Free for the client / partner (making client getting easier and enhancing your opportunities)
    • Concept can be applied to other businesses and similar ideas (no chance the method will become saturated, the prospect will always be able to profit).
    • Minimal cost to test the market (you don't need to spend anymore than $10 to find out if a market is viable)

    You can say 'I do this with balloons, but inside I show you how you can take this simple idea and apply it anywhere!... you may find something that'll earn you far beyond the $300 per day I show you in this report"

    You know... something like that
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    In the last 3 days, I've received 5 orders from easilydoable.com and 3 orders from myballoonbiz.com. That tells me that the copy is not horrible but it can certainly use improvement.
    That’s fantastic.
    As I said the acid test is are they buying. If they are buying you have a starting place.

    I have a control add I tweaked for ten years. It booked me out every time I sent it. I don’t run that business any more, but I still have thousands in storage in my garage, I printed that many because it was a money maker.
    Some changes were purely cosmetic. Others were seasonal, there was the Xmas version, the Easter version, the school holiday version etc…I still get calls several years later. The letter was so good only the season was changed, and the product modified slightly to deliver on the promise.

    This letter was tweaked for years and went out 50 /50 with a control that got 50%+ conversion. But here is the real key. I knew the market and I spoke directly to them.

    From a copy perspective your copy is not good, but if it is converting then, nothing else matters.
    What you, I or anyone else thinks about the copy is irrelevant. People are voting for it.You need to find out why and improve on it.

    On a second note consider this**** This is a fundamental copy error
    Your post was misunderstood, so your copy and intent was not clear. No great copy should make that mistake.

    I think your copy on the sites makes the same mistake.

    If people accept 1-2% return as normal, that’s their problem.
    The internet is full of so called copy experts now. Ask some of these experts for their controls and the results their controls get.

    I am talking about copy that converts much higher.
    Buy any good course on copywriting and they will tell you the same.


    Find copy that inspires you to buy and emulate not copy, but start from something that is already good.

    My no non-sense report gives you step-by-step
    This no non-sense or you get a non-nonsense etc.

    The acid test is if they are buying tweak, but tweak from great and not 1-2% results.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
    Thanks again for your feedback Adam and Kiteg2. I am still new to this forum and I am not use to receiving so much useful feedback and critique from people who don't expect anything in return so I am truly grateful to both of you for taking time to respond.

    I think the reason myballoonbiz.com is getting a 3.4% conversion rate is because I am driving traffic to that site by forming a relationship with them in this and other forums. This probably makes the copy on my site less relevant.

    The EasilyDoable website is on clickbank so it's the affiliates that are doing all the promoting.

    I will continue to tweak my copy and hope that some day it does reach a 50% conversion rate because what I am offering is truly a unique opportunity that I've personally used and continue to profit from.

    Thanks
    -Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author Toniy
    Good man

    Gotta say as well, Kite... thought you were being kind of an arsehole in the beginning when you just slammed the copy (:p) but you turned out to be giving some really thoughtful advice, so my apologies for misjudging you the first time around.

    It's times like this Samir that making minor tweaks may or may not be enough, no one can tell.

    I would think though, that minor tweaks would only find minor improvements... although there are stories that contradict that entirely.

    So I'd say you have three options:

    1) Continue tweaking it yourself and hope for improvements here and there

    2) Have a legitimate copywriter revamp the whole sales letter and start from scratch

    3) Learn copywriting yourself, then make improvements or do a revamp.

    Or... of course you can just leave it as it is and pump out more traffic

    It's entirely your choice sir but I hope whatever you choose to do brings you success.

    Glad we could help mate, take it easy

    Adam
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    Gotta say as well, Kite... thought you were being kind of an arsehole in the beginning when you just slammed the copy (:p) but you turned out to be giving some really thoughtful advice, so my apologies for misjudging you the first time around.
    Lifes to short to waste like that.
    I don't pull punches as that would not help,
    Personally I hope this project comes good.
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  • Profile picture of the author apolwar
    Originally Posted by SamirRastogi View Post

    I've created two sites promoting the same product to different audience and the copy is slightly different on each. I plan on doing an A/B test but wanted to get some opinions from the folks here.

    Site #1 - myballoonbiz.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    Site #2: easilydoable.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    I would really appreciate some feedback. If neither copy is good, please don't hesitate to say so.

    Thanks!
    -Samir

    The first site's domain name is catchy and easy to remember. And maybe you could put some color into your background? Its all too white and somewhat clinical for a site distributing balloons, that is.
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    As a person who bought your report, actually tried it and endorsed your product as EASILY DOABLE,

    I'd like to see you use a "vendo-matic" type page and put it into the rotation to test, my best educated guess is it will outpull what you have now.

    On your current promotions, I'd move the testys up, it looks like at least four of your endorsements came from SowPub. I'd be glad to endorse it too, but as for the copy, it is my opinion, you don't need much help in the copy...

    So, shoot me an email gjabiz@yahoo.com and I'll help you create a "vendo-matic" site which may be what you need.

    gjabiz Gordon Alexander

    PS. Just a side note, you might want to use paydotcom.com too, some prefer it for these smaller reports.

    Originally Posted by SamirRastogi View Post

    I've created two sites promoting the same product to different audience and the copy is slightly different on each. I plan on doing an A/B test but wanted to get some opinions from the folks here.

    Site #1 - myballoonbiz.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    Site #2: easilydoable.com: How I Earn $300 A Day Distributing Balloons

    I would really appreciate some feedback. If neither copy is good, please don't hesitate to say so.

    Thanks!
    -Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirRastogi
    Hi Gordon...it's great to see you on WF. I am glad you found me here and I would love to hear your "vendo-matic" idea. I am actually also looking forward to reading your old posts here as I am sure you've provided some valuable insights to WF just as you've done and continue to do on sowpub.

    Will be sending you an email in a minute.

    Thanks!
    -Samir
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  • Profile picture of the author RadiniCopywriting
    Both are pretty good, though the first is more readable and more positive, which is normally a good thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Samir,
    Just a quick graphic design concept that will make it much easier on the eye is to left-justify instead of centering it. The ragged left side is difficult for the eye to follow.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Gordon,

    I'll play stupid. What is a vendo-matic webpage? A quick Google search gave me a site about a software. The page was simple, very easy to read, about 500 pixels wide with an easy on the eye background area around the 500 pixel wide part with the sales letter.

    Is that it?

    Thanks

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Bill Myers created the software and coined the term. You can find it on his website at bmyers.com/vendomatic

      It is a fill in the blanks forms which generate html code and produce a very clean and neat short and sweet, to the point...one page sales page...Bill uses it on almost every product he sells. Click on one of his products at the homepage and you'll see how he uses it with a fly in...

      Over the years, it's been almost a decade, if memory serves...and vendomatic has come to mean a Vending Machine like sales page, you puts your money in, push the button...the product comes out.

      I've used it on nearly 20 products over the last 10 years because sometimes, and in Samir's balloon case, and in my opinion...it is self-explanatory and doesn't need a lot of copy to sell it...just a pic, some bullet points and a few paragraphs.

      Thanks Don, I'll try to be less cryptic and more lucid in the future...remember though, I'm old and feeble minded these days, so please be nice to the old man, ok?

      gjabiz

      PS Don's report in his sig file is GREAT stuff, get your hands on it now.

      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Gordon,

      I'll play stupid. What is a vendo-matic webpage? A quick Google search gave me a site about a software. The page was simple, very easy to read, about 500 pixels wide with an easy on the eye background area around the 500 pixel wide part with the sales letter.

      Is that it?

      Thanks

      :-Don
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    Multivariate testing over a long period of time will be able to give you a better answer than anyone here as results speak for themselves.
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