Question about scheduling

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Hey guys, quick question for you,

When you land a client, how often are you having to put them on a waiting list? I was looking over some of the copywriter WFH threads and it seems like if you've got a good pitch that you could have a ton of people interested in hiring you all at once. If I was doing a decent money job i'd obviously want to spend a couple days on it (at least) to really get it right. I would think that if you had 5-10 prospective clients that it would be possible to end up having a waiting list several weeks long.

Is this typical for most of you or do you like to work a few hours on several different jobs every day? Personally I would rather go head deep into a project until its done, but maybe that's not really possible when you're marketing to a wide audience? Or maybe im just showing my "green-ness" in thinking it would take several days to write up something good for the ususal WSO or clickbank product!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Hey Rick,

    Some quick answers for your quick questions:

    99% of the time anyone who wants to work with me has to go on a waiting list. But typically it's not too long, roughly two weeks or so as I don't like to be booked up for months and months, I'd rather keep my options open.

    "A couple of days on it (at least)" is the time I'd spend on my initial research. A finished sales piece is going to take me 10-14 days (5-10 days if I know the market).

    If you've got a regular waiting list of 5-10 people, it's probably time to increase your fees.

    And lastly, I only work on one project at a time so I can completely focus on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      Hey Rick,

      Some quick answers for your quick questions:

      99% of the time anyone who wants to work with me has to go on a waiting list. But typically it's not too long, roughly two weeks or so as I don't like to be booked up for months and months, I'd rather keep my options open.

      "A couple of days on it (at least)" is the time I'd spend on my initial research. A finished sales piece is going to take me 10-14 days (5-10 days if I know the market).

      If you've got a regular waiting list of 5-10 people, it's probably time to increase your fees.

      And lastly, I only work on one project at a time so I can completely focus on it.

      Thanks Andrew, this was very helpful.

      I guess a lot of this has to do with the scope of the project that you're taking on. I mean yeah I'd love to take a week just strictly researching a project but sometimes i dont think its cost effective. I mean if we're talking about writing a WSO for someone and only getting a couple hundred bucks for it then I'd I'd only want to be spending a day or two on it. If im working for a B2B offline client with a couple grand fee then yeah im going to spending a few weeks making it perfect.

      Maybe this doesnt come up as much for the vets here becaue they've focused their marketing on one specific type of client? Are many of you guys doing WSO's and affiliate products one week then doing offline high-paying stuff the next? Seems like that could get messy scheduling-wise.


      Edit: Thanks to you too Mark!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    In January of this year, I was booked up until June.

    I got so overwhelmed that I sent waiting clients elsewhere.

    Because the stress of looming projects got so intense that I pushed myself above and beyond what I wanted (and could handle with my type-a personality.)

    I totally agree with Andrew.

    Right now, I'm booked about two/three weeks out.

    Although, I've been killing it lately and have gotten myself way ahead of schedule.

    And even though you might think people want someone who is available YESTERDAY, you're wrong.

    If you're good, you're busy.

    If you're great, you're choosy.

    Besides, if a prospective client waits until the very last second to hire his or her first choice for a copywriter, shame of them.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    In that case, the obvious answer to your dilemma seems to be to simply not write for WSOs.

    It's not obligatory, the WF is just a fraction of a percent of the entire online world.
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    • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      In that case, the obvious answer to your dilemma seems to be to simply not write for WSOs.

      It's not obligatory, the WF is just a fraction of a percent of the entire online world.
      Thats a good point too... I was just assuming for someone starting out like myself, WF is a really good place to get your name out there and get some testimonials under your belt.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
        Originally Posted by RickCopy View Post

        Thats a good point too... I was just assuming for someone starting out like myself, WF is a really good place to get your name out there and get some testimonials under your belt.
        Sorry, I'd assumed you were already getting the four figure offline jobs and you were just looking to transition to the online world.

        With that in mind, then yes, the WF is a very easy place to pick up your first few clients.

        But I'd still spend a week or two per project regardless of what you're being paid (unless you absolutely, desperately need the money).

        It's the same in any job, you start at the bottom and if you want to work your way up to the top you can't half-ass it because you don't think you're being paid enough. You need to bring your A game from the start.
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        • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
          Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

          Sorry, I'd assumed you were already getting the four figure offline jobs and you were just looking to transition to the online world.

          With that in mind, then yes, the WF is a very easy place to pick up your first few clients.

          But I'd still spend a week or two per project regardless of what you're being paid (unless you absolutely, desperately need the money).

          It's the same in any job, you start at the bottom and if you want to work your way up to the top you can't half-ass it because you don't think you're being paid enough. You need to bring your A game from the start.
          Thanks Andrew, I'll definitely be keeping this in mind as im working on these first few clients. Hopefully I'll be able to post what i come up with and see what you guys think.

          thanks!
          Rick
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
          Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

          But I'd still spend a week or two per project regardless of what you're being paid (unless you absolutely, desperately need the money).

          It's the same in any job, you start at the bottom and if you want to work your way up to the top you can't half-ass it because you don't think you're being paid enough. You need to bring your A game from the start.
          This is game changing advice here.

          If you're a new or struggling copywriter, then read this part of Andrew's post again. It's truly one of the secrets to success for being a full-time copywriter.

          Take care,

          Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author pschout
    Unfortunately no waiting list yet for my copywriting services. But I write in Dutch so thats a small market
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