Can I make it as a copywriter?

You think?

This would be a good time for some serious self-reflection Alberto.

You posted to a public discussion board, where nobody knows you from Adam, and asked if you can make it as a copywriter.

I mean, seriously, how would we know?

Take a hard look at your decision making process. It wouldn't hurt if you got some skills in that area.

Alex

Yes. The two aren't so far apart after all.

I have never written copy for B2C or B2B so I do not know which I want to write for. I do not know what is involved in either.

How do I find out which I want to write for?

Understood. I'll be back.

Thanks.

Hi Ahikimi,

I can't seem to PM. Maybe because I'm new?

I'm interested in the test runs.

First of all, this will be my last post on your thread.

Nothing personal, but you come on here asking for people's advice, and then you want to turn it into a High School debate match with rebuttles that contradict your original post .

Bottom line, I'm not asking whether you agree, and neither is anyone else here. I'm just telling you what works.

Take it or leave it...that said...

Dude, knock off the pity party.

You're 41. So what? Grandma Moses was 85 before we painted a single work of art. She did over 100 in her lifetime, and become one of the most celebrated artists in history. Long lists of people made their big break at the "later" ages in life. The difference is, they never compared themselves to the walking dead around them who were "succeeding" at their work-a-day jobs. All those people who are "progressing in their careers..." most of them probably took the safe and predictable road.

Nothing wrong with that, but you're comparing apples to oranges.

Hell, even if they didn't take the safe road...comparisons to others (better or worse) get you nowhere. The only person you have to outmatch is the man you were yesterday. Sometimes, this means living off Mac and Cheese. But read the success stories of all the great Entrepreneurial heroes, you'll find that most of them did the same. They made sacrifices. If you're not willing to do that for your dream, why bother?

The only thing worse than being bad at something is being bad and believing you're good. Who cares about years of experience? Results are all that matter, and with all due respect, your track record suggests you need to develop your sales skills. Admitting that is the first step to getting past where you are now.

Besides, how can you have writing skills AND selling skills, yet lack evidence of a skill which requires the combination of both? Something's not adding up. Not to mention that CoolHandLuke was right...if you don't have evidence of that skill, it's unethical to try and get people to pay you for it.

This is a laugh riot.

Seriously, if you want to become a copywriter, and that's where your true passion lies. Hey, go for it. I can suggest several places to start. With the right tools, you can get there faster than most people think.

But if you think you're going to have an easier time than you're having in the scriptwriting market, you're in for a rude awakening. Copywriting has the illusion of having a low barrier to entry, simply because:

1) There's a HUGE demand for it
2) Most people who hire writers can't tell the difference between effective writing and lousy writing just by looking at it.

Read this post for more details: http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ents-here.html

Because of this, flocks of eager, young writers swarm into this marketplace assuming that since they can write, they can copywrite. Because of these two factors, they find work fast, and in many cases their clients don't have the clarity to tell them where their writing is faulty. So they go on with a false sense of confidence that they're a professional copywriter.

But at about the few thousand a month mark, if they make it there, they hit this mysterious "glass lid" on their income. Because they believe their writing skills are sufficient, they can't see that their writing is the problem. They come on forums like this leaving posts about where they can "find high paying clients." They don't even know that the real question is...why aren't high paying clients finding them?

I believe you're looking at some greener grass, and frankly, I don't blame you. We all get discouraged. But is hitting the reset button really the answer?

If the grass over here looks greener than yours, maybe you should spend more time watering yours and less time looking at ours. Besides, only a fool looks for greener grass, wise men get busy planting new seeds.

Anyway, like I said, that's all I have to say on it. You can rebuttal if you like but you are where you are now because of your beliefs and your actions. If you want to get to a new place, you need more than a new niche. You need a new mindset. You need to become a student before you position yourself as an expert.

In the end, your client's, and this industry, will suffer for it.

If you think I'm a d-bag for that, so be it.

But if you're ready to learn and want to start posting some samples and getting feedback, myself...and plenty of others on here, are happy to help.

Best,

I wouldn't say it counts as a sample, no. But you're on your way!

I don't think the dude above you was referring to you.