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Email List Question

by Amit Mishra0
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I have been able to garner almost 100,000 e-mails after a long period of efforts. These e-mails addresses and names are not laser targeted traffic or anything. They are just random IDs from random locations of the world from random walks of like. For example, I got to extract list of employees with email addresses for one of the hospitals in Omaha, Nebraska.

My quandary is that I do not know who to send what email, who to sell what product. I use Clickbank.

Can the warriors guide me with some basic strategy here?

Thanks in Advance!

AM
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  • Profile picture of the author psenjani81
    It is not important that you have many Email address. But it is too much important is the email address active? what is their expectation? I mean is the Email address your targeted? If you sent 100000 email but if their is no interest to your product, the result will be zero. So you have to make a sort of email address to your targeted people. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author JustinNguyen
      Originally Posted by psenjani81 View Post

      It is not important that you have many Email address. But it is too much important is the email address active? what is their expectation? I mean is the Email address your targeted? If you sent 100000 email but if their is no interest to your product, the result will be zero. So you have to make a sort of email address to your targeted people. Thanks
      Very good idea. instead of your email 100,000 available. you should collect emails from people interested in your products leave when they learn them. Thus it is more efficient.
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  • Profile picture of the author Email Marketing Mentor
    Hello Amit,
    The first question is about the legality of that emails, for US law you can not just get and use some emails for advertising, people must give you personally their contact.

    If you still want to use that email list, you must send first introduction emails to your list, to meet you or your brand, give them some really great valuable information about product what you sell. Information must be for free.

    Second what you must do is to segment that people in some category, example not all products is for men or women, or some age, or people who have children, or have house or condo, or have a car or go to work with the bus, love or not love music, travel etc...

    When you segment that people you continue to send them valuable information, and try to get some feedback for them, an example you can send them an email where you ask them to send you any question about your product or something also what is connected with your product.

    When you see your list is active and communication is great, you can start to promote that product from Clickbank, but do not tell them too much about the product, tell them what product can do for them, how can help them and how can make their life better.

    My suggestion is to send few deferent landing page to that people and try to segment them to other lists by interest.

    Milan Disic
    Email Marketing Mentor
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by Email Marketing Mentor View Post

      Hello Amit,
      The first question is about the legality of that emails, for US law you can not just get and use some emails for advertising, people must give you personally their contact.

      If you still want to use that email list, you must send first introduction emails to your list, to meet you or your brand, give them some really great valuable information about product what you sell. Information must be for free.

      Second what you must do is to segment that people in some category, example not all products is for men or women, or some age, or people who have children, or have house or condo, or have a car or go to work with the bus, love or not love music, travel etc...

      When you segment that people you continue to send them valuable information, and try to get some feedback for them, an example you can send them an email where you ask them to send you any question about your product or something also what is connected with your product.

      When you see your list is active and communication is great, you can start to promote that product from Clickbank, but do not tell them too much about the product, tell them what product can do for them, how can help them and how can make their life better.

      My suggestion is to send few deferent landing page to that people and try to segment them to other lists by interest.

      Milan Disic
      Email Marketing Mentor
      Sending close to 100,000 introductory emails will be a daunting task and could last for many months to come. Completing the whole process in phases (introductory email then segmenting demographics etc.) might take enough time to let the product I am tying to promote become irrelevant.

      I am newbie with no website. What I have understood so far about Internet Marketing is that you need to act promptly on what is hot. No doubt that the idea of building this whole permission-based email list, gaining trust of users, treating each email as an actual person and not just string of characters etc. is the most legitimate and honest way of establishing a lasting relationship and a 'business' in its complete sense. However, I am pressed for time and want the sales to at least start trickling in. I want to make this my full time job with honest day's work and earn accordingly.

      Let me know if you have suggestions.

      AM
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Bright
        Do you know you can actually send out campaign to as many list as you have.Even if its a million list.
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        • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
          Originally Posted by Paul Bright View Post

          Do you know you can actually send out campaign to as many list as you have.Even if its a million list.
          Sorry, didn't understand the advice.
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by Paul Bright View Post

          Do you know you can actually send out campaign to as many list as you have.Even if its a million list.
          Hello Paul

          Yes of course you can but his list is worthless. You would need a throw away domain an VPS Server with your own mailing program, or use one of the VPS services from India, but why would you bother with that untargetted list?

          You make sales an profit from offering products of interest to a targetted list. For instance puppy or dog training courses to a targetted list of dog lovers/owners.

          Cheers
          Lindy
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          • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
            Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

            Hello Paul

            Yes of course you can but his list is worthless. You would need a throw away domain an VPS Server with your own mailing program, or use one of the VPS services from India, but why would you bother with that untargetted list?

            You make sales an profit from offering products of interest to a targetted list. For instance puppy or dog training courses to a targetted list of dog lovers/owners.

            Cheers
            Lindy
            Believe it or not, there are a lot of mailers that send non vertical targeted data.

            I'm not talking about spamming. This is all aged data that was originally vertically targeted and all user have given permission to receive 3 rd party messages.

            You send using your own hosted mailer and IPs. Which you need to get from legit IP providers that are email friendly. Most importantly, you have to get them at the right price and the guys you reference are just taking advantage of inexperience users.

            Since the IPs will have at best, neutral IP reputation, you will not be able to inbox all domains. So you have to domain target your data against the IPs of the domains you should be able to get reasonably good deliverability.

            You then send free offers that have mass appeal. Will likely be of interest to a decent portion of the general population. Also, it's much easier to get someone to just fill out a form, than purchase something.

            Then you collect all opens / clickers and dump the non responsive users. Over time, you will build very large list that are responsive to these types of offers.

            I will tell you something else, that even takes this further. You can even do the above sending to the spam folder. However, to pull it off, you have to get very high volume of IPs in bulk, at super rock bottom pricing. But super rock bottom pricing is still expensive, because of the high volume. Just you monthly cost per IP is cheap.

            By no means am I telling anyone to go do this, as you need the right tools and resources to do profitably. Otherwise, you will fail miserably. I'm just saying that it is possible to make money with non targeted data.
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            • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
              Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

              Believe it or not, there are a lot of mailers that send non vertical targeted data.

              I'm not talking about spamming. This is all aged data that was originally vertically targeted and all user have given permission to receive 3 rd party messages.

              You send using your own hosted mailer and IPs. Which you need to get from legit IP providers that are email friendly. Most importantly, you have to get them at the right price and the guys you reference are just taking advantage of inexperience users.

              Since the IPs will have at best, neutral IP reputation, you will not be able to inbox all domains. So you have to domain target your data against the IPs of the domains you should be able to get reasonably good deliverability.

              You then send free offers that have mass appeal. Will likely be of interest to a decent portion of the general population. Also, it's much easier to get someone to just fill out a form, than purchase something.

              Then you collect all opens / clickers and dump the non responsive users. Over time, you will build very large list that are responsive to these types of offers.

              I will tell you something else, that even takes this further. You can even do the above sending to the spam folder. However, to pull it off, you have to get very high volume of IPs in bulk, at super rock bottom pricing. But super rock bottom pricing is still expensive, because of the high volume. Just you monthly cost per IP is cheap.

              By no means am I telling anyone to go do this, as you need the right tools and resources to do profitably. Otherwise, you will fail miserably. I'm just saying that it is possible to make money with non targeted data.
              Hello DIABLO

              My reply to Paul Bright was more related to Amit's 100K list which seems to have been obtained by scraping. Therefore these emails would not "have given permission to receive 3 rd party messages",

              Also re "and the guys you reference are just taking advantage of inexperienced users". I did not reference any particular companies, only "services from India". There are some huge Indian hosting companies that offer mailing services using rotating IP's. There are also likely to be many from India that offer low priced services that are sub standard.

              In relation to this particular 100K list, I fully agree with your first reply to Amit, on the 3rd September.

              We do affiliate marketing in a very different way to most, we use online flip page magazines for all our marketing. They are both the lead bait for subscriber list building as well as the means for advertising/promotion of affiliate offers. We rarely send any other emails to our subscriber lists, other than email notifications when each new monthly issue is online.

              Our largest list is fairly similar in size to Amit's, around 120k, but has returned over US$1 Million a year in affiliate profits for some years now. (up to US$1.4 Million) Where most affiliate marketers seem to promote single products, our magazines have up to 40 or more advertisements. Some are single affiliate offers while others may lead to websites offering thousands of products. (one example a website offering nearly 20,000 cosmetics/hair care/skin care products) Some of our advertisements also lead to what we refer to as our SuperStores, these are websites that contain a number of Amazon stores relating to a specific niche market. These Superstores may hold hundreds of thousands of products.

              I agree with celente, in that a fresh targetted list of 1000 people would generate more profit than the 100K scraped untargeted list.

              Cheers
              Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author Email Marketing Mentor
        You will have lower conversion if you do not have a website for that niche
        who is connected with products.
        Website and brand creation give you authority and build trust with
        customer relationship.
        The point in online business is not just to make sales, a point is to nurture
        your customer to come back to you.
        Money is on/in the email list but just if you how
        When trusted relationship is built now is time to scale your business
        selling other products, but and there are some tips how to make maximum profit.
        I can not tell you everything here

        Milan Disic
        Email Marketing Mentor
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  • Profile picture of the author AronParker
    You know that's Spam and Illegal right?

    Go to the bestblackhat forum to get advice on such stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by AronParker View Post

      You know that's Spam and Illegal right?

      Go to the bestblackhat forum to get advice on such stuff.
      Spam is an e-mail which is Unsolicited AND In Bulk. If you sent 100,000 different people only one email, is it still spam?
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      • Profile picture of the author mich800
        Originally Posted by Amit Mishra0 View Post

        Spam is an e-mail which is Unsolicited AND In Bulk. If you sent 100,000 different people only one email, is it still spam?
        I am not sure if this was a joke. So you are proposing to send 100,000 different emails to circumvent your understanding of can-spam requirments?
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  • Profile picture of the author amaziff
    It's all about targeted traffic and targeted email list. People need to trust you before they will (be even thinking) about buying some product from you. Same goes for affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate King
    How do you get an email list form a hospital, you steal the addresses?
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by Nate King View Post

      How do you get an email list form a hospital, you steal the addresses?
      Hello Nate.

      No, I did not steal the list.

      There digital/physical places where some such institutions have to publish such data. Obviously they do not do with intention of this data being used by marketers, but yet.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author webmarke
    You want a basic strategy for you 100,000 email? Delete them!

    You have a list of email addresses that you are going to spend time effort and money to spam.

    The end result will be (as Ahmed Salah has explained) that you will get very little opens, high bounce rate, low conversions, and marked as spam.

    The end result will be that you would have purchased a bulk emailer (or service) and will make less money then you spend to purchase the tools you will need to spam people.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    How did you get these emails? Did they opt in?
    If you just collected them randomly without getting them to opt-in, i'd stay away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      How did you get these emails? Did they opt in?
      If you just collected them randomly without getting them to opt-in, i'd stay away.
      Hello ChrisBa,

      I can't reveal the sources here. They are not opt-ins at all. Most of them could be the old people who never use computers but someone created an email address for them for some official paperwork.

      This whole list indeed is an untargeted big heap of garbage. But the challenge is; can we devise a way to even utilize this. This is for everyone's benefit. If a solution comes up, I'd be willing to share the ways to pull such huge number of email addresses with names, job titles, companies etc. with much more ease much less time than I spent.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author solidwealthsystems
    Since you will basically just be sending random people spam, I don't think it really matters. Just take whatever offer is converting the best for you and use that. Results will obviously be terrible and you'll have to use a bulk emailer you can just burn afterwards, but you never know, some people might bite.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by solidwealthsystems View Post

      Since you will basically just be sending random people spam, I don't think it really matters. Just take whatever offer is converting the best for you and use that. Results will obviously be terrible and you'll have to use a bulk emailer you can just burn afterwards, but you never know, some people might bite.
      Hello solidwealthsystems,

      That's the positive attitude! Thanks Dude!

      But I believe the strategy can still be further refined and improved with more finesse.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Jackson
    Sounds like another case of spam to me.

    So your best bet would be to just delete them and start over by building the list your damn self and not trying to take a shortcut.

    If not this will quickly bite you in the ass and whatever platform you use will get your banned and terminated.

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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by Isaiah Jackson View Post

      Sounds like another case of spam to me.

      So your best bet would be to just delete them and start over by building the list your damn self and not trying to take a shortcut.

      If not this will quickly bite you in the ass and whatever platform you use will get your banned and terminated.

      Isaiah
      Hello Isaiah,

      That may well be the case. Can you suggest a digital way of building a clean list without having to own a website.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author Pecan
    This type of list is perfect for my favorite campaign. You know, the one where the Nigerian prince wants you to cash a money order for him.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by Pecan View Post

      This type of list is perfect for my favorite campaign. You know, the one where the Nigerian prince wants you to cash a money order for him.
      Thanks for the humor bro!

      I once was about to be duped by one such Nigerian princess, but managed to put brake on that speed ride just right in time. Had that offer gone through, I would be in line with Bill Gates and Warren Buffets (Saint of Omaha) and Jesse Livermore.

      A M
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    you're going to get kick out of your autoresponder if you get too many complaints

    Best u step away from that suspicious list and start from scratch...

    just my two cents

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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

      you're going to get kick out of your autoresponder if you get too many complaints

      Best u step away from that suspicious list and start from scratch...

      just my two cents

      Ike Paz
      Thanks for your 2 cents, aizaku! Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    You are just going to get you account terminated or your IPs blocked / blacklisted sending a random scraped list. You will get hammered with bounces and spam traps.

    The only reason I would ever scrape a list, is if you're targeting a specific type of business and you're going to send a very targeted message, that ideally doesn't come off as just a sales pitch.

    I'm a big mailer, but I for the most part don't build opt-in list. I buy data, but the data I buy is all users have given permission to receive messages from 3rd parties. So it is 100% can-spam compliant.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

      You are just going to get you account terminated or your IPs blocked / blacklisted sending a random scraped list. You will get hammered with bounces and spam traps.

      The only reason I would ever scrape a list, is if you're targeting a specific type of business and you're going to send a very targeted message, that ideally doesn't come off as just a sales pitch.

      I'm a big mailer, but I for the most part don't build opt-in list. I buy data, but the data I buy is all users have given permission to receive messages from 3rd parties. So it is 100% can-spam compliant.
      Hola Diablo,

      Thanks for insightful advice! You're absolutely right.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author xixna
    If your email list is not targeted, there is no use in that. You will hardly get any sales from your list. I think you should start building a targeted email list from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by xixna View Post

      If your email list is not targeted, there is no use in that. You will hardly get any sales from your list. I think you should start building a targeted email list from scratch.
      Hello xixna,

      You're right. But then, how would you suggest I go about building a targeted list without owning a website.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author ydsimple
    You can send them to squeeze page first and then add them to proper autoresponder like aweber, I mean build targeted list from it. What niche to choose you need to test. First you can send them to make money online niche, then to self development, lose weight, etc. You can even end up with several targeted lists in different niches ;-) Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by ydsimple View Post

      You can send them to squeeze page first and then add them to proper autoresponder like aweber, I mean build targeted list from it. What niche to choose you need to test. First you can send them to make money online niche, then to self development, lose weight, etc. You can even end up with several targeted lists in different niches ;-) Hope that helps.
      Hello ydsimple,

      Thanks for encouraging words; few queries though-

      1. How do I create Squeeze Page, can it be done for free?
      2. Do I need to have a website with domain and all for Squeeze Page to work, can it be done for free?
      3. I will need to send emails beforehand before I could get them to the Squeeze Page, wouldn't that fall under 'spamming' anyway as most of the responders on this thread have expressed as their view (which I also agree wtih)?
      4. Selection of Niche might not be my choice as I will be picking products from Clickbank based on healthy Gravity.

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    As with a lot of things in IM, the only REAL answer is testing, improvement, more testing and more improvement etc.!

    Obviously you need to separate your contacts into different lists for different subjects, so you target each more effectively.

    Once you've done that, one approach would be to ASK each list what they want most, what their biggest problem is, etc. then you give them a product that helps them get what they want, or solves their biggest problem.

    As well as ClickBank, consider JVZoo, Amazon affiliate products (they pay less percentage, but covert VERY much better than ClickBank, generally), and other things. Once you are making consistent sales on one list, create your own product specifically for that list, so you have more control and keep a larger percentage.

    As well as selling products on each list, make sure you regularly give them genuinely useful information, for free, too, as that will increase your conversions, and decrease your unsubscribes etc.

    Once you've sent about 10 emails of useful free info to a list, it probably makes sense to remove any members who've not opened any of them (most list-management systems will tell you this), because they are costing you money (in terms of your monthly list-management cost).

    Hope that helps

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      As with a lot of things in IM, the only REAL answer is testing, improvement, more testing and more improvement etc.!

      Obviously you need to separate your contacts into different lists for different subjects, so you target each more effectively.

      Once you've done that, one approach would be to ASK each list what they want most, what their biggest problem is, etc. then you give them a product that helps them get what they want, or solves their biggest problem.

      As well as ClickBank, consider JVZoo, Amazon affiliate products (they pay less percentage, but covert VERY much better than ClickBank, generally), and other things. Once you are making consistent sales on one list, create your own product specifically for that list, so you have more control and keep a larger percentage.

      As well as selling products on each list, make sure you regularly give them genuinely useful information, for free, too, as that will increase your conversions, and decrease your unsubscribes etc.

      Once you've sent about 10 emails of useful free info to a list, it probably makes sense to remove any members who've not opened any of them (most list-management systems will tell you this), because they are costing you money (in terms of your monthly list-management cost).

      Hope that helps

      Chris
      Hello Chris,

      One of the best answers I have seen so far; thank you!

      One query though about the 2nd step (one approach would be to ASK each list what they want most, ) of the process - I am assuming 'ask' refers to sending emails (about 100,000); wouldn't that be what other people have been naming it i.e. spamming? Or, it there any other way to do it?

      AM
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  • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
    Hello Amit

    If you had a genuine targetted optin list of 100,000 you would have a million dollar a year business, but in this case take the advice of those who have told you that your list is worthless, and start over again building your own list or promoting by other means until you build a list.

    You said you compiled that list after a long period of effort, but you have really put the cart before the horse, you should have been spending that time learning about Internet Marketing, including the law relating to email marketing. You can learn a lot for free, from reading posts here in the WF an just from online searches.

    But don't give up, in my first year of IM I made US$408 profit for my first whole year of effort, an I was spending 2 to 3 hours each night trying to learn IM. That was 13 years ago, I don't think the WF even existed then or I wasn't aware of it, an there was not a lot of information out there, I was trying to learn from ebooks. My breakthrough was finding someone who would mentor me, who then became my adopted Dad an took me in to his IM business. We have since built one of the world's largest privately owned IM Businesses with 67 employees now, but it was all built on the foundation of building our own lists to market to. My Dad has a saying - "Start from scratch an keep on scratching" so start scratching an never give up. Remember you are out to build a business, not starting a hobby. If you want to start a real business you have to put the time an effort into it, the same as you would with a brick an mortar High Street Business. Short cuts lead to failure, you first have to graduate IM Kindergarten before you reap the rewards from graduating IM University. I wish you well for your future.

    Lindy
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Hello Amit

      If you had a genuine targetted optin list of 100,000 you would have a million dollar a year business, but in this case take the advice of those who have told you that your list is worthless, and start over again building your own list or promoting by other means until you build a list.

      You said you compiled that list after a long period of effort, but you have really put the cart before the horse, you should have been spending that time learning about Internet Marketing, including the law relating to email marketing. You can learn a lot for free, from reading posts here in the WF an just from online searches.

      But don't give up, in my first year of IM I made US$408 profit for my first whole year of effort, an I was spending 2 to 3 hours each night trying to learn IM. That was 13 years ago, I don't think the WF even existed then or I wasn't aware of it, an there was not a lot of information out there, I was trying to learn from ebooks. My breakthrough was finding someone who would mentor me, who then became my adopted Dad an took me in to his IM business. We have since built one of the world's largest privately owned IM Businesses with 67 employees now, but it was all built on the foundation of building our own lists to market to. My Dad has a saying - "Start from scratch an keep on scratching" so start scratching an never give up. Remember you are out to build a business, not starting a hobby. If you want to start a real business you have to put the time an effort into it, the same as you would with a brick an mortar High Street Business. Short cuts lead to failure, you first have to graduate IM Kindergarten before you reap the rewards from graduating IM University. I wish you well for your future.

      Lindy
      Hello LindyUK,

      You are every bit right when you say that IM business is no difference from brick & mortar business when it comes to earning trust of customers. In your case it took more than too years and fortune favored you by bringing your Dad in your life. However, waiting for 10 years to establish a way to finally have source for sustainable income would not be completely okay for me.

      You are also right in saying that one should learn as much as they can before expecting to launch a successful IM business just like any other non-digital business. I have been trying to learn about this whole IM scenarios and have quite frankly burned my hands in taking miscalculated steps.

      I believe you would also agree to the fact that majority of senior IM marketers suggests 'money is in the list' which I also agree to a great extent which is why I set out to build this list. Only difference being it wasn't a permission based list. I'll request, and appreciate, your comments, as I have requested from other members in this post, about how to make a clean list without a website and/or submitting articles to Article Directories.

      AM
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      • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
        Originally Posted by Amit Mishra0 View Post

        Hello LindyUK,

        You are every bit right when you say that IM business is no difference from brick & mortar business when it comes to earning trust of customers. In your case it took more than too years and fortune favored you by bringing your Dad in your life. However, waiting for 10 years to establish a way to finally have source for sustainable income would not be completely okay for me.

        You are also right in saying that one should learn as much as they can before expecting to launch a successful IM business just like any other non-digital business. I have been trying to learn about this whole IM scenarios and have quite frankly burned my hands in taking miscalculated steps.

        I believe you would also agree to the fact that majority of senior IM marketers suggests 'money is in the list' which I also agree to a great extent which is why I set out to build this list. Only difference being it wasn't a permission based list. I'll request, and appreciate, your comments, as I have requested from other members in this post, about how to make a clean list without a website and/or submitting articles to Article Directories.

        AM
        Hello Amit

        It didn't take us 10 years to build a substainable income, my Dad was already involved in IM and making about US$75,000 a year from Affiliate Marketing. It took us 3 years to build that to our first one million dollar profit. We have been together now for 13 years an we now have a turnover of around US$21 Million a year. (won't tell you profits now but fairly large) We are still involved with Affiliate Marketing an make around US$3 Million a year profit from it, but our main focus for the last 8 or 9 years has been the Offline market, offering services to Offline Businesses mainly here in the UK but also in the US, Canad, Australia. Thats the reason for our large number of staff, we operate 3 shifts so work 24 hours a day. The Affiliate Marketing is now mainly done by 3 junior girls looked after by a Supervisor. 3 or 4 years ago I outlined how we did Affiliate Marketing in a WF thread about Amazon but our ways would be a bit too complicated for someone starting out. We do things very different to most others. I don't have time to post very often but I think you would learn from reading through my posts. I have never started any threads it has always been jus replies to posts.

        You will see that I also preach that the money is in the list. I explain it like this: If you are relying on Google to be found in search, you are like a fisherman fishing in the wide open sea along with hundreds of thousands of other fisherman. If you build your own lists to market to, it is more like you are fishing in your own pond, you are the only fisherman there, you have no other competition, so naturally you are going to catch all the fish. Plus you don't have to worry bout trying to rank with Google or them changing their rules.

        As far as building a list, like others have told you here, you will need to have a website or a squeeze page to collect optin signups to build your list. The signups go from your squeeze page to your AutoResponder, that is how you build an optin list. I have talked bout how we build our lists in my posts.

        You could start selling without actually having a list. You could do that by joining Facebook Groups that allow you to post Ads for free on the Group pages, (they have thousands of specific interest Groups) or by using sites like Pinterest. Pinterest has over 100 Million monthly users, best for marketing to women who are the main users.

        I would advise you to start building your list from the start though even with using those sites. You can get a free Autoresponder account from Mailchimp (up to 2000 subscribers an 12,000 emails sent per month) then upgrade later. The AR takes care of the double optin. Re websites/squeezepages an so on, we feel you should know every part of your Business, but I know others might disagree. But you can find freelancers at fiverr.com who can do most of the technical work for you from US$5 per job.

        I have to get back to work but hope my answers helps. I think you might learn from some of my previous posts too if you take time to read through them. I will try to pop back in a day or so if yu have short questions I will try to answer them. But also take note of what others tell you, an find threads relating to Affiliate Marketing an so on. Get a notebook an start keeping notes to build your own reference database, it can be better than buying a course as you get a variety of outlooks an ideas. As long as you can filter them a bit.

        Cheers
        Lindy
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    Only acquire e-mail addresses for a list through ethical and legal means. Does that really need to be said?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Not even worth your time and money if these are names and emails you scraped from the web. You should only practice permission based email marketing.
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    Id call that spam!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    Originally Posted by Amit Mishra0 View Post

    I have been able to garner almost 100,000 e-mails after a long period of efforts. These e-mails addresses and names are not laser targeted traffic or anything.



    AM
    Guess what, you are bound to get, really crappy results.

    I do $800 USD a day online., Through email marketing.

    And if you are not using laser targeted email, and getting fresh laser targeted leads, you will not get the results you are after.

    Heck I would say even if you said your list was 200,000 leads, that might be even worse. For obvious reason.

    Sure you will get sales. Here and there maybe, as those lists have the people that do that, and buy like a robot.

    But realistically you should be trying to garner FRESH leads, every day, from high traffic sources, from people looking to BUY. Like from PPC, PPV, and all that.

    It sounds like this list is from solo ads, or something else like a scraper....and bound to fail. As scraping is well, dodgy, and solo ads, are good, but picture this, they are getting blasted every day with the same deals, and have been exhasted out of their brains.

    I have found out that a 1000 fresh high quality leads, is far better than the sort of list you talk about even if you had 500,000 leads.

    Infact, back in january I made $12,314 from fresh leads from BING PPC, and i only had about 1000 or so. I doubt you would be doing those numbers selling stuff to your list!!! But just saying. There is education here, where it is due, and we all learn the hard way.

    It goes like this.

    scraped leads = well....just plain illegal.
    solo ad leads = ok, but some of them are exhausted.
    Fresh freebie seeker leads = ok
    fresh BUYERS leads = hot stuff ....ZING!!

    anyway, I think you see my point. Very good marketers know the value of getting fresh leads to their business each day. The millionaires are normally getting 1000's of fresh leads each day from paid traffic. And have nice responsiver lists, they do not spam the crap out of.
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    I would recommend you to send them a welcome email first and then start making a good relationship with your subscribers while sending promotional emails. this way you can monetize your list very effectively.
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  • Profile picture of the author mich800
    Ask yourself this question. I just received an email from someone I never heard of and surely did not subscribe to receive their emails and now they are peddling their wares. What is the first thing you do to that email? Delete or hit the spam button. That is the true value to this list.
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    You can Download USA Ohio Email List Free i got best result from this because everyone is interesting to read emails
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    • Profile picture of the author Amit Mishra0
      Hello Yasir,

      I just kept navigating to another page. Nothing got downloaded.

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  • Profile picture of the author SamNuku
    My question is why would you bother? I know this is a bit brutal but seriously why would you 'garner' emails for which you wouldn't know what to send to?

    It'd be more impressive to have 100 emails for people who opted in willingly then the 100K that you have garnered or i'm guessing taken from directories etc.

    The money really ISN'T in the list man & i'm guessing thats why you've gone after it this way.

    The money is in the value that you provide the list leading to the relationship you build & ultimately thats how you'll get the money you're after.

    Please rid of this list & get back to marketing legally & ethically.

    I say this with nothing but your best interest at heart man. #successwithsamii
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