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What do you think about this safe-swaps program?

I've seen a few people here using it. Just wanting to
know if its any good. Looks like it makes life easy for ya ...
#review #safeswaps
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Williams
    Looks so to me as well, I haven`t joined yet though, and I`d love to hear answers to this too. I just read some thread yesterday that someone expected it to make the JV finding task easier, which currently is not handled by safe-swaps.

    Anyone using safe-swaps, please let us know your experience. I know you still have to follow up manually every JV, doesn`t it sum up to the same amount of time spent?
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  • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
    You still have to read what you're going to send to your subscribers.

    Everything else is automated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Keith_Purkiss
      I've been using it for a month and in the last 3 weeks have added 1000 subscribers to my list.
      It's made swaps so much faster to setup I don't know how I managed without it.

      I've made a video about it on YouTube in case anyone wants to know more
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      • Profile picture of the author vwa
        Originally Posted by Keith_Purkiss View Post

        I've been using it for a month and in the last 3 weeks have added 1000 subscribers to my list.
        It's made swaps so much faster to setup I don't know how I managed without it.

        I've made a video about it on YouTube in case anyone wants to know more
        YouTube - Safe-Swaps The Fastest Way To Build Your List
        Thank you for the video
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      • Profile picture of the author kurttasche
        Thanks for the video Keith. I was thinking of joining Safe Swaps, but now I definitely am.
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      • Profile picture of the author GoBlog
        Originally Posted by Keith_Purkiss View Post

        I've been using it for a month and in the last 3 weeks have added 1000 subscribers to my list.
        It's made swaps so much faster to setup I don't know how I managed without it.

        I've made a video about it on YouTube in case anyone wants to know more
        YouTube - Safe-Swaps The Fastest Way To Build Your List
        Hi Keith,

        Thank for the video review. I think this is a good start to build responsive list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
    Danny, paypal email used for affiliate payments only.
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  • Profile picture of the author infite
    Hi Joes, this site rocks!

    My list is only 1000 members and I am getting new ad swap requests every day!

    I think you won't be disappointed if you join.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonydbaker
    Safe Swaps says that it has a full-featured autoresponder service. I'm wondering if it really has the broadcast and automated follow up capabilities, as well as list sorting/searching, and other features that I have in iContact.

    I don't care about iContact's RSS and social media integrations, but I wonder if Safe Swaps really can handle my list of 6,000 or so emails as easy as iContact does.

    I don't have a problem dumping iContact to trade their high rates for a $25/mo system that is actually designed to help me build my list. But... I don't want to take all the time to move my list just to regret it later. Can this replace iContact for me, or is this only for list swaps?
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
      Originally Posted by tonydbaker View Post

      Safe Swaps says that it has a full-featured autoresponder service. I'm wondering if it really has the broadcast and automated follow up capabilities, as well as list sorting/searching, and other features that I have in iContact.

      I don't care about iContact's RSS and social media integrations, but I wonder if Safe Swaps really can handle my list of 6,000 or so emails as easy as iContact does.

      I don't have a problem dumping iContact to trade their high rates for a $25/mo system that is actually designed to help me build my list. But... I don't want to take all the time to move my list just to regret it later. Can this replace iContact for me, or is this only for list swaps?
      Any autoresponder that allows you to import, without optin confirmation, is just looking for trouble... I'd wait until they have some history first. And, that's not an unqualified opinion, I've been in the autoresponder and email space for almost 15 years now.

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    • Profile picture of the author infite
      Originally Posted by tonydbaker View Post

      Safe Swaps says that it has a full-featured autoresponder service. I'm wondering if it really has the broadcast and automated follow up capabilities, as well as list sorting/searching, and other features that I have in iContact.

      I don't care about iContact's RSS and social media integrations, but I wonder if Safe Swaps really can handle my list of 6,000 or so emails as easy as iContact does.

      I don't have a problem dumping iContact to trade their high rates for a $25/mo system that is actually designed to help me build my list. But... I don't want to take all the time to move my list just to regret it later. Can this replace iContact for me, or is this only for list swaps?
      Their autoresponder handles my 7000 list without any problems. I've imported it from Aweber and happy I did it.

      I definitely recommend you joining Safe-Swaps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
      Originally Posted by tonydbaker View Post

      Safe Swaps says that it has a full-featured autoresponder service. I'm wondering if it really has the broadcast and automated follow up capabilities, as well as list sorting/searching, and other features that I have in iContact.

      I don't care about iContact's RSS and social media integrations, but I wonder if Safe Swaps really can handle my list of 6,000 or so emails as easy as iContact does.

      I don't have a problem dumping iContact to trade their high rates for a $25/mo system that is actually designed to help me build my list. But... I don't want to take all the time to move my list just to regret it later. Can this replace iContact for me, or is this only for list swaps?
      Yes, it has both automated followup and broadcast features.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clint Butler
        Originally Posted by Uncle Dimitry View Post

        Yes, it has both automated followup and broadcast features.
        I was looking at the order page at it says the gold package comes with a list of 2500, are those targeted to your niche or are they just collected people from general offers?

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        • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
          Originally Posted by Clint Butler View Post

          I was looking at the order page at it says the gold package comes with a list of 2500, are those targeted to your niche or are they just collected people from general offers?

          Clint
          These are not the people, but free autoresponder account with a limit to 2500 subscribers.
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          • Profile picture of the author rashamba
            I left safe-swaps after I found that my list was getting hit up with some junky products in the IM niche. I am wondering if they have a buy solo option though? I would rather pay for a solo that I review and save my list from the endless barrage of swaps. Anyone know?
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  • Profile picture of the author money2k
    Safe Swaps is awesome. It gives you an opportunity to swap with people in your niche and I especially like the ratings feature (similar to ebay feedback) which allows you to see what other swappers are like. I have been a paying member now for over 2 months and have added over 1500 people to my mailing list.

    Join if you are looking for a safe, reliable way to swap. Uncle Dimitry is always adding new features as well (Free autoresponder, solo ads, joint ventures, etc.).

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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    Is this only good for the IM space, or do folks build lists in other markets too?
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  • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
    Most people there are in IM niche, but most likely you'll find somebody in other niches. We have 3000+ members.

    In addition, you can buy solo mailings from others.

    Best, Uncle Dimitry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackbelts
      Originally Posted by Uncle Dimitry View Post

      Most people there are in IM niche, but most likely you'll find somebody in other niches. We have 3000+ members.

      In addition, you can buy solo mailings from others.

      Best, Uncle Dimitry.
      Hi,
      I am thinking of joining safe swap. May i know if it accept GVO eresponder for list size verification purpose? I recently converted to GVO from Getresponse.

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author jonj31070
        Originally Posted by Blackbelts View Post

        Hi,
        I am thinking of joining safe swap. May i know if it accept GVO eresponder for list size verification purpose? I recently converted to GVO from Getresponse.

        thanks
        I don't think the you can verify your list size with GVO. I think it only works with Aweber.
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        • Profile picture of the author Blackbelts
          Originally Posted by jonj31070 View Post

          I don't think the you can verify your list size with GVO. I think it only works with Aweber.
          OK. What a pity...I know Getresponse works too..But i need this to work with GVO. Will be great if someone from Safe Swaps can comment on this here.

          thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    At first I thought this site was awesome, I was getting thousand of clicks and was getting massive conversions and real list growth.

    Sadly the people joining my list were not buyers, and I was basically burning my existing list by sending people to loads of free offers and I had no idea if the people I was swapping with were decent marketers or people who promoted the hell out of their list for the latest product launch piece of hype.

    Anyway since leaving my other traffic generation sources may not generate as many leads, but the quality has improved and so have my profits.

    Bottom line is it's worth joining for a month and trying it for yourself and deciding on your own results.
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        • Profile picture of the author Landis
          Originally Posted by Uncle Dimitry View Post

          It could end in something really bad for you.
          What happens when someone calls your site a spam source?
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Safeswaps is top notch Uncle Dimitry made a great site ..... I have been a member for almost a year now and it is one of my best investments by far!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sweetcheeks12354
    Honestly though, not every list is equal. A list of 1000 buyers isn't the same as a list of 100,000 freebie finders. Read reviews and take them with a grain of salt.
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  • Profile picture of the author AigulErali
    Adswaps are a great way to build your list.
    Choose your Adwap partners wisely.

    Check out the products they are are offering, signup to their list and see what content you get from them. You are sending your list to theirs so make sure you are getting value.

    Or your subscribers will come back and bite you on your backside!
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  • Profile picture of the author Pandan
    Someone recommended safe-swaps to me, so I went to the URL and saw this:



    Just above the Login, I see a word XYЙ....

    I can read Cyrillic and understand Russian - so this word means... DICK!!! LOL.

    Hm, Uncle Dimitry , is this some kind of internal joke or...?
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    • Profile picture of the author infite
      Originally Posted by Pandan View Post

      Someone recommended safe-swaps to me, so I went to the URL and saw this:



      Just above the Login, I see a word XYЙ....

      I can read Cyrillic and understand Russian - so this word means... DICK!!! LOL.

      Hm, Uncle Dimitry , is this some kind of internal joke or...?

      Their support said it was a trademark.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChartTraderZ
    Safe-swaps is nice but traffic there is in seriously low quality ...

    it converts, but much lower than "review" traffic.

    However, it is definitely worth $25 / mo and you can easily return the investment. I'd recommend it to beginners who want to make their first money without much thinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rickling
    Hi all
    I'm a member of safe swaps and have been for the last 3mths I started out there just ad swapping but wasn't a great return on a list size of 50 of non responsive subs. I then bought some solos, sunce then have over couble my list and they are response to other persons advert also. I now have a 100 or so subs and also when I'm about 500 or so then can offer solos to get back some of my expenditure. All this was in like a month so 50 subs and a better quality of subs too. I thoroughly recommend safe swaps to any wanting to build there list.
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  • Profile picture of the author dejrasfans
    funny I was on my way to get safe-swaps when I came across this Q. i have a friend who is wild for Safe-swaps and has convinced me to try. So wish me luck I am on my way .See ya on the inside Dimitry.
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    • Profile picture of the author denisjor
      Well, I have heard good things and bad things about Safe-Swap, so I think I will give it a go and see for myself. From what I am hearing it's only $25 a month.

      I guess I can afford to invest that to see if it works...stay tuned..I will let you know. :rolleyes:

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      • Profile picture of the author MacS09
        I guess it depends how big your list is when you start.

        I got into safe-swaps on the strength of Joey Kissimmee's ebook but did not find his growth possibility (over 1000 in a month or so) starting with a small list. Optin was very low, but conversion was good (perhaps something to do with my offer...? )

        I don't have a problem with cr***y swaps. I check every offer and only accept those that I gladly offer to my list. Regrettably, that rules out quite a few swap partners with equally small lists as mine as lots of them tend to to offer a certain type of CB product whose categorisation shall remain nameless.

        Next, I'll do a couple of solo ads to see how that goes. If my maths is correct that ought to pay for itself easily, and that then would be a fast and very doable way of growing my list. After that, I'll report back.

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  • Profile picture of the author 100bucksaday
    I got safe-swaps before a couple of months, I am thrice happy, safe-swaps has permitted me to build a reactive mailing while building a major base of like minded persons that want to build a mailing list together.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingChad
    Thanks for the feedback everyone, safe-swaps is something I've been looking at for awhile. What's the pricing like on the solo ads? Is it the $25 monthly fee + your solo buy or is the monthly fee only there if you're "swapping?"
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    • Profile picture of the author Rickling
      Originally Posted by MarketingChad View Post

      Thanks for the feedback everyone, safe-swaps is something I've been looking at for awhile. What's the pricing like on the solo ads? Is it the $25 monthly fee + your solo buy or is the monthly fee only there if you're "swapping?"
      There's a $29 monthly fee I think and swaps are free solos are what you buy and range in prices and depending on clicks bought and seller..
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Thanks for the feedback everyone, safe-swaps is something I've been looking at for awhile. What's the pricing like on the solo ads? Is it the $25 monthly fee + your solo buy or is the monthly fee only there if you're "swapping?"
    There's a package deal for $25 and you have to buy solos on top. The adswaps are free of course.

    I fully recommend it... One of the best investments I've made in fact.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Everyone really needs to be doing their own testing because every marketer is at a different level, therefore conversions will depend on your own marketing abilities.

    This is why it pays to read Gary Halbert newsletters, anything by Dan Kennedy, Joe Sugarman, John Carlton and a whole bunch of other world class copywriters.

    Get your copy right and you'll see a good conversion.

    Mike Hill

    PS. I wonder how many people on Safe-Swaps conduct A/B Split tests on their landing pages and email copy?
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Batty
    I'm very happy with Safe Swaps.
    Solo Ads and (targetted) Ad Swaps can really be a good addition to your list building strategy and Safe Swaps seems to me to be the best site to do both.

    I wrote about it extensively as part of my free "50 Names a Day" free list building WSO, and am actually in the midst of creating an extensive list building WSO. In it I've done a case study using safe swaps as the source for solo ads and swaps. I'm also interviewing some advanced users of the site.. so it should be real interesting to anyone considering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    The other thing you have to be careful of with any adswap is where the traffic is coming from. Some new marketers that do not have a list are swapping and sending traffic from adfly. Adfly is junk traffic in my opinion and will not convert.

    So when you think you are building a list because the numbers in your autoresponder are climbing you should double check the IP addresses of the traffic your getting for any similarities or a lot of duplicates.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rickling
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      The other thing you have to be careful of with any adswap is where the traffic is coming from. Some new marketers that do not have a list are swapping and sending traffic from adfly. Adfly is junk traffic in my opinion and will not convert.

      So when you think you are building a list because the numbers in your autoresponder are climbing you should double check the IP addresses of the traffic your getting for any similarities or a lot of duplicates.
      Mike I agree but unless you get optins you won't know where just clicks come from. Maybe your own tracker on top of the safe-swaps tracker may show generally but not IP addresses. Hence if your a member there the lastest with one user sending traffic and ripping off alot of people within safe-swaps but I guess cause of the optins told them the ip's and apparently were duplicates....!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello!

    Yes it is very easy to use and makes work easier. It has less hustle and is very handy. You should try it if you want to. It's ok. You should at least give it a try and see if it also suits you or if you find it as a big help. It's really a big help.

    Best of Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author timfleagle
    I am currently testing safeswap and i have purchased 4 soload campaigns. I have gotten about a 25% opt-in rate to my e-mail list but no buyers yet. seems to be a good bang for the buck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by timfleagle View Post

      I am currently testing safeswap and i have purchased 4 soload campaigns. I have gotten about a 25% opt-in rate to my e-mail list but no buyers yet. seems to be a good bang for the buck.
      Not to be a wise guy, Tim, but how do you figure "no buyers" to be a good bang for the buck?
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      • Profile picture of the author timfleagle
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Not to be a wise guy, Tim, but how do you figure "no buyers" to be a good bang for the buck?
        You are right dennis safe swap is a risk like any other paid advertising. But since you posted here I have recieved commisions for 4 sales. My expectations are to get 25% opt-Ins and then let my followup message sequence at aweber do the rest of the work for me. I have been learning from Lee McIntyre and his principles have worked for me so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert02011
    I joined a week ago and sofar so good.I will test for a month and then will have the answers i seek
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  • Profile picture of the author stockcertified
    My weekend project is to sign up for Safe-Swaps to offer solo-ads to our investor / make money related 30k+ opt in lead list.

    Any other places to promote your solo-ad offer? I'm open to ad-swaps but want to make sure we can screen first to make sure its a fair trade.
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  • Profile picture of the author Javier Lin
    I was recommended to safe swaps about slightly more than a month ago. I must say this is a fantastic way of building a list . It sure cuts down all that effort in finding swap partners.

    I'd recommend it for IMers. You'll get quality subscribers and sales conversion if you know which solo seller to buy from.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
        My experience of safe swaps so far has been a positive one. The solo ads I have purchased have all provided a great CTR. The best thing is that it is genuine as well because I have an affiliate sale on the back of it.
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      • Profile picture of the author ninja newbie
        Well, I just bought a solo ad on safe-swaps a couple days ago and I'm completely satisfied with the result so far...

        Purchased: 75 clicks
        Delivered: 84 clicks
        Optins: 31
        Conversion rate= 36.9%

        Now it's time to see how good my follow up game is on getting sales.

        Yes, the money is in the list
        But, the fortune is in the follow up!
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        • Profile picture of the author cowloc
          I'm also curious.. does anyone promote direct affiliate links instead of opt-in pages? Wondering if it would be best to push the traffic to a list instead.. But the ease of just sending an email with an affiliate link in it and getting sales sounds so appealing
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          • Profile picture of the author joeykissimmee
            It's best to capture the email first so that you're building your list.

            If you send them straight to the offer, you're not only loosing clicks, but leads that can be potential customers later.

            Remember, many people won't buy the first time out. So if you at least you captured their email, you can send offers later. You won't have to pay for the solo again...
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        • Profile picture of the author infite
          Originally Posted by ninja newbie View Post

          Well, I just bought a solo ad on safe-swaps a couple days ago and I'm completely satisfied with the result so far...

          Purchased: 75 clicks
          Delivered: 84 clicks
          Optins: 31
          Conversion rate= 36.9%

          Now it's time to see how good my follow up game is on getting sales.

          Yes, the money is in the list
          But, the fortune is in the follow up!
          this is almost identical with my stats. BTW, check my site
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  • Profile picture of the author shoarma
    I used safe-swaps for two ad-solo's and it has been a great success, i recommend it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elizbetm
    safe-swaps is a great place to look for solo ads. im currently using them to quickly build a list,
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikestankowski
    I really like safe swaps, i think they give you trust worthy way of swapping lists with someone and giving you a bunch of new subscribers
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    Hmm...i just recently started on solo industry & still building a list.This sounds like a good place for this purpose.I will definitely check it out soon.Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jlcs
    This site is good and I've started few solo ads. The results are pretty good.
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  • Profile picture of the author nawshale
    Hi,

    In my experience, its better to make first your own swipes and send to your fresh list, then when you have more subs, you can offer some giveaways,. But you will read first your swipes before sending it.

    Safe swaps can help you build your list in a fast pace.

    hope this helps.

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
    I've just started using Safe Swaps. I have some solo ads going out over the next couple weeks. I'm sending the clicks to a Contest Domination page for a $1,000 prize contest I'm holding this month on my blog.

    I'm planning to test the results with the landing page and then tweak it a bit. I'll be writing a post about it on my site to share the results with my readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author kayoz
    I'm new to IM so I don't have a list yet. My first step obviously, is to build a list. Will safe-swap help me with this or is this only for those that already have a list? As an unpaid member, can I buy solo-ads? That makes more sense to me then trying to swap lists when I have nothing to swap and not enough experience to know if it's a responsive list or a junk list.

    Thanks for any advice you can offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author imguru
    Seems as safe-swaps has some problems with their website, account suspended ?
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  • Profile picture of the author sivricmarijan
    I think their service is great and it really helped me build my list...I will also try to sell solo ads through safe-swaps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
    after a recent spam blacklist, entire subnetwork from our provider - Hostgator has been blocked. We are working right now on unblocking.
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  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    The entire 'safe swaps' site has been blacklisted, it doesn't even go to a 404 page now - dead in the water!
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  • Profile picture of the author Uncle Dimitry
    the site is not in blacklist anymore, but entire HostGator's subnetwork doesn't work for some reason. Right now our people are working live with them to get everything up as fast as possible
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
      Originally Posted by Uncle Dimitry View Post

      the site is not in blacklist anymore, but entire HostGator's subnetwork doesn't work for some reason. Right now our people are working live with them to get everything up as fast as possible
      This is good news thanks for the update.

      Going forward, my suggestion would be to get 20 generic domains and rotate them for tracking in the emails that go out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
        Originally Posted by Tyler Pratt View Post

        This is good news thanks for the update.

        Going forward, my suggestion would be to get 20 generic domains and rotate them for tracking in the emails that go out.
        Tyler, man, you keep throwing out these golden nuggets. I hope someone is listening.
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    • Profile picture of the author samling
      Uncle Dimitry, I was not able to logged in for the Last 3 days? What is going on when could we logged in? Could you give us rebates for those days we could not logged in? We trust you are doing a great Job. May be you could PM me. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author forexidea
    hi

    do they offer forex solo ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoosh Kashefi
    Swaps are alright, but giving your subscribers to other IMers repeatedly may not be the best idea. I only run a few swaps a months, if any at all for that reason. But, there are mixed ideas on this so...

    As long as you replenish your list and keep building swaps are great, and Safe Swaps is the best I have seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author philrich21
      Originally Posted by Anoosh Kashefi View Post

      Swaps are alright, but giving your subscribers to other IMers repeatedly may not be the best idea. I only run a few swaps a months, if any at all for that reason. But, there are mixed ideas on this so...

      As long as you replenish your list and keep building swaps are great, and Safe Swaps is the best I have seen.
      Thanks Anoosh

      I was considering this service to start building my list.

      Do you have any other recommendations? Also can you expand on how you are replenishing your list. Are you using Solo Ads for this from anywhere in particular?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
      Originally Posted by zxcbowbow View Post

      can I choose different niche in Safe-Swaps ? Is there a lot of weight loss niche solo ads in Safe-Swaps ?
      My experience is that safe-swaps is 100% Internet marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author tomtommarketing
    The rating feature is really what makes safe swaps so great. Just as you instantly get a sense of credibility of a vendor or Ebay, you the same sense when considering who to swap with.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ideology
      I'm not sure, when I look at the forums there seems to be reason to careful. I read how more advanced users can trick ad buyers by faking the clicks. Sounds like you really have to be careful if veteran safe swap members are calling out others for theses deceptive practices. You need to know how to look at your data and be able to spot suspicious clicks, beginners beware......
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    I already joined the safeswaps but hasn't started testing out yet.I just started building my subscribers so its too early for me to do swaps on there.
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    • Profile picture of the author nutrie
      Can you just purchase a mailing off of a member without swapping your own list?
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  • Profile picture of the author jimp74
    Hi,

    What kind of conversions are you getting building a list with Safe-Swaps?
    Lists are still responsive will all the swaps?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author infite
      Originally Posted by jimp74 View Post

      Hi,

      What kind of conversions are you getting building a list with Safe-Swaps?
      Lists are still responsive will all the swaps?

      Thanks!
      I do 2-3 swaps a week and my list is active thanks to constant contact with subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author EdVictor791
    I've looked through the site before and recognized a lot of the big name IM gurus on there using swaps.

    I personally have never tried it (as I don't have a large list myself yet) but believe there is defintiely results to be had here.
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  • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
    Has anyone here ever purchased a safe swap mailing without having a list yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    I heard it also a goo place for swapping,does anyone any other place for solo swap?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    safe swaps is garbage and NOT SAFE

    why?

    the rating system? lol it's just like ebay.

    i'll rate you 5stars if you rate me 5stars after the swap? then we can keep on swapping with others...

    just a big con job.

    oh and the lists are all freebie seekers.
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    • Profile picture of the author adgaro
      Originally Posted by Lanx View Post

      safe swaps is garbage and NOT SAFE

      why?

      the rating system? lol it's just like ebay.

      i'll rate you 5stars if you rate me 5stars after the swap? then we can keep on swapping with others...
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      Not true. I've seen "reputable" members banned after a newbie wrote to the support, asking to check log files.

      I like Safe Swaps. Besides they are implementing a good deal of features right now, making it even more safe.
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      • Profile picture of the author steve20092009
        Originally Posted by adgaro View Post

        Not true. I've seen "reputable" members banned after a newbie wrote to the support, asking to check log files.

        I like Safe Swaps. Besides they are implementing a good deal of features right now, making it even more safe.

        Agreed! If SS were a "con" then how come I am building my list and getting optin's/sales. I highly recommend SS 100%.

        I wondered when the first negative comment was gonna surface lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Butters123
    ok, I might give this a try I need more subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    My biggest concern with Safe-Swaps is the quality of leads you are generating.

    The people sending out your offer, are sending offers to their list everyday.

    What kind of quality do you expect from those type of vendors? Think about it.

    People talk about building a list fast, what good is it to have a big list of freebie seekers?

    When I think of solo ads the #1 thing I think of is where these people are coming from.

    If these subscribers were so good, than why are people selling them left and right?

    If you took good care of your list would you be promoting offers every single day?

    I'm not saying they are bad, I haven't used them long enough to make that judgement.

    But I do question the quality of these subscribers, especially in this niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mesina
      Originally Posted by Matthew J Trujillo View Post

      My biggest concern with Safe-Swaps is the quality of leads you are generating.

      The people sending out your offer, are sending offers to their list everyday.

      What kind of quality do you expect from those type of vendors? Think about it.

      People talk about building a list fast, what good is it to have a big list of freebie seekers?

      When I think of solo ads the #1 thing I think of is where these people are coming from.

      If these subscribers were so good, than why are people selling them left and right?

      If you took good care of your list would you be promoting offers every single day?

      I'm not saying they are bad, I haven't used them long enough to make that judgement.

      But I do question the quality of these subscribers, especially in this niche.
      I also got this question in mind. I'll start purchasing Solo Ads next week using Safe Swaps and I'll tell everyone the result. I'll simply promote an offer but will also catch their emails.

      By the way, is there any other website similar to Safe Swaps?

      Best Regards,
      Mesina
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  • Profile picture of the author webbizgold
    If you have an attractive offer, it is possible to get good signups from some of the well-renowned vendors in safe-swaps. Like averaging over 30% conversion at least to your squeeze page. An OTO sale or two is a nice bonus, then hope to make more money on the backend.

    True to its name, it's safer than buying direct from unknown vendors, since the site automatically tracks the vendor's traffic for you. If it's not good, leaving a negative rating would hurt the seller's business, ebay style.

    My only gripe would be that the earliest you can get traffic is within 3 days, that's the earliest possible date scheduled by the system in the calendar. I don't think a vendor can deliver earlier than that from my experience. Whereas if you're familiar with a solo ad vendor, they can send you traffic anytime within 24 hours or less based on their availability.

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author infite
      Originally Posted by webbizgold View Post

      My only gripe would be that the earliest you can get traffic is within 3 days, that's the earliest possible date scheduled by the system in the calendar.
      That limit has been lifted. You can buy instant solos in the chat or search for folks, who are online right now.

      Leads are great there and I get sales from every solo.
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      • Profile picture of the author artbum
        Originally Posted by xuyenvtram View Post

        I have used safe-swaps and have been testing madly for the past week.

        Here is what I found.

        Make sure you test small (I recommend 100 clicks), it's not too much, but enough to gather enough data for your optins and funnel.

        I have tested over 15 different vendors in a few days, and I found only about 3 of them to be high quality and great.

        I also asked if these vendors have blasted a solo for my offer recently so I don't re-run the same ad.

        I just want to warn you guys though...not everyone on there with lots of high reviews and good postings will have honest or high traffic.

        You have to read this post:

        How You Are Getting Click Jacked Without Realizing it | Ad swaps forum at Safe-Swaps

        I have a gut feeling these vendors are using their "high multiple ratings" and if they see you are a new member (and think are unlikely to track your results), they will take advantage of it and send garbage traffic.

        I don't want to name any names on there, and I leave a good review to everyone so no one knows. (Reviews on there are questionable at best anyways).

        On the positive side, the ones that are honest and have decent traffic I will definitely buy from them again.

        So to take from all this....Don't trust what anyone says...Test Small for yourself and find out...then Go Big.
        I'm one of those newbs :/ and I just bought my first solo ad in the fitness niche. 100 clicks. I'm pretty sure what you described is exactly what I got: a bad solo ad. My stats:

        You received 111 unique clicks.
        Referrers 6 5.4%Mail
        0 0%Web
        105 94.6%None

        What should I do??
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        • Profile picture of the author artbum
          by the way, I got 12 subscribers. 1 unsubscribed, 3 are confirmation pending (before I learned that I shouldn't do a confirmed optin for weightloss. I still added them manually and they were sent follow-up message 1.

          So I guess this is roughly 12% optin, right? Should I complain about this guy?
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            • Profile picture of the author infite
              Originally Posted by xuyenvtram View Post

              Nope, because they will basically say they don't guarantee anything, including optins or sales...that's your responsibility to get your sales funnel right........yeah right, lol.

              There are a couple good vendors there...but they are few and far between. These guys can only monetize their freebie seeker list is by selling you clicks. Otherwise they would promote their own offers to their list.

              I advise not to buy solos on safe-swaps...just do swaps there. Find quality solos else where.
              I can't agree with you. Wild market gives you a Russian roulette game.

              On the other side, I bought quite a few solos on safeswaps for my paid site (Infite.com - Easily Grow Your Own Membership Site) and got sales on every solo. SS even filtered proxy and junk traffic for me.

              This saved me money. Plus sellers get their money only after all clicks are delivered to me. I just can't imagine better protection.

              I highly recommend Safe-Swaps as many others do.
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              • Profile picture of the author heavysm
                I was referred to safe-swaps by almost everyone I know, but I have taken an alternative route.

                I study the testimonials pages on facebook and look for the consistently highly rated solo sellers. These will be the people that have buyer reports of multiple sales received from a solo and good opt-in amounts (most testimonial pages have the buyer come to reveal the details of their solo purchase).

                I look for the high tier 1 or all tier 1 people who are highly rep'ed or referred to me by friends.

                Your funnel also needs to kick ass, by the way. Don't expect PLR to work well or other paid me-too sorts of funnels that a lot of people have access to.

                I suppose safe-swaps is good to have them auto filter the bad traffic for you (they don't tolerate scammers one ounce, so DO NOT send non-email traffic) but I don't like that $30 fee just to be exposed to adswap partners and buyers.

                Facebook is my Disneyland lol
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  • Profile picture of the author infite
    nice idea, but not for me. Facebook eats too much time.
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  • Profile picture of the author wentzco
    OK - I think it is important to read this as I am concerned about Safe-Swaps (though I haven't so far had what I call a negative experience)

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...05767012782350

    Here are my comments from that post -

    "Well I tried to post this in the safe-swaps forum but because I'm not a paid member (I do buy solo emailings there... at least I thought they were solo emailings - hopefully they actually were).

    In your post there regarding the Wild market vs Safe-swaps you state this comment to someone "Facebook and Twitter traffic is valid too, but the System marks it as Web traffic, which it actually is. You won't have problems with your customers, if they are ok with FB and Twitter traffic. They will see it on their stats page."

    HUHHHH?

    I'm extremely concerned about this. Are you saying that traffic outside actually solo ad mailings are allowed in the system?

    Let's look at what safe-swaps advertises on the front page "Buy solo mailings from top notch sellers with verifiable history and get instant traffic, optins and sales"

    I buy Facebook clicks from Facebook ads & pay a less amount for it with targeting then via solo ad clicks. I am using safe-swaps to send solo mailings as promised & want my traffic to be from the sellers email lists.

    If safe-swaps allows this then you must make it plainly clear for buyers like myself that a seller is generating traffic outside of their list otherwise it is just plain deceptive - a "wild market"."

    I have purchased solo ads elsewhere so maybe this is an issue there as well (likely)?
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

      OK - I think it is important to read this as I am concerned about Safe-Swaps (though I haven't so far had what I call a negative experience)

      https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...05767012782350

      Here are my comments from that post -

      "Well I tried to post this in the safe-swaps forum but because I'm not a paid member (I do buy solo emailings there... at least I thought they were solo emailings - hopefully they actually were).

      In your post there regarding the Wild market vs Safe-swaps you state this comment to someone "Facebook and Twitter traffic is valid too, but the System marks it as Web traffic, which it actually is. You won't have problems with your customers, if they are ok with FB and Twitter traffic. They will see it on their stats page."

      HUHHHH?

      I'm extremely concerned about this. Are you saying that traffic outside actually solo ad mailings are allowed in the system?

      Let's look at what safe-swaps advertises on the front page "Buy solo mailings from top notch sellers with verifiable history and get instant traffic, optins and sales"

      I buy Facebook clicks from Facebook ads & pay a less amount for it with targeting then via solo ad clicks. I am using safe-swaps to send solo mailings as promised & want my traffic to be from the sellers email lists.

      If safe-swaps allows this then you must make it plainly clear for buyers like myself that a seller is generating traffic outside of their list otherwise it is just plain deceptive - a "wild market"."

      I have purchased solo ads elsewhere so maybe this is an issue there as well (likely)?
      There are going to be bad apples in just about any industry/market.

      Safe swaps is so named because their tracking system filters all the non-email traffic that could be sent by solo'ers and swapers. If too much of the non-email traffic is detected (the exact amount is debatable) an account can and will be shut off without a refund for the $30 monthly fee.

      I can posting it but people don't seem to listen so much. There is a facebook group with a flash flood of testimonials, updated constantly, that posts the results of different solo sellers.

      Just watch that thing like a hawk to see which solo sellers are consistently rated well and stick to them.

      Don't use the skype groups to find quality providers. It appears that the scammers on there now out number the legit sellers. It's sad that might not actually be true, but from experience it feels like it.

      Being referred to quality solo sellers and researching and examining their reviews, reaching out to buyers to ask them questions etc all play a role in this game.

      If you plan things out well you can easily create a small rolodex of solo sellers you can trust on Facebook simply by examining solo testimonial pages for the high converting sellers (both for sales and opt-ins).

      Just be smart about who you hand your money to.

      No testimonials or reviews = walk away.

      No sales page and super low cost = 50/50 could be beginner needing testimonials or scammer

      Only pay more than 40 cents a click if they have the reviews to back up the quality of their services; this means lots and lots of sales made from their solos. Opt-ins are ok but sales are the cash cow here.

      But don't be surprised if you come across a scammer. If happens on occasion if you're looking for a good fresh seller who isn't known yet (there are tons of legit people just coming into the industry). Just take a lot of screen shots of whatever evidence you can come up with and try your best to look for established solo sellers who are far less likely to screw you over.
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  • Profile picture of the author wentzco
    Yes - I have been paying attention to that testimonial group on Facebook (as well as MANY other FB groups). I am about to start doing requests for sellers in the FB groups, just paid for a forum post (want to buy) at Safe-Swaps & likely will create a classified ad here at WF as well. Luckily I haven't felt ripped off on my solo ad buys anywhere (except Fiverr - LOL). It's important for me to get this right as I'm also advising a growing network of affiliates as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      The solos offered in the classifieds on the WF appear to be some of the strongest that I have seen. That $20 fee seems to be a big enough barrier of entry to keep the scammers out, or most of them anyway.

      Putting in the effort to create a decent sales page for solos shows me that the person is serious about their business and isn't afraid to either put in the work to create their page or hire it out to make it look nice.
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  • Profile picture of the author ppceve
    How much is it to buy instead of swapping? What's the average rate?
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    • Profile picture of the author dwakeman
      Buying clicks on SS is not a set amount. Every member can set their own prices.

      The most important thing to pay attention to is the sellers rating from other buyers.

      You can expect to pay anywhere from .35 to .75 per click.

      If you can afford it, buy at least 100 clicks to get a measure of the value. Understand, it may not be the seller, it may be your offer.

      Good luck.

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  • Profile picture of the author sachin5120
    yes safe swaps is really good must try
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