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has anybody checked out pcc classroom let, iv been getting louds of hype about it in my in-box

the guy behind it is supposed to make $2.4M a year. i have trouble beliving that

thanks in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    You have trouble, trouble what?

    Amit is not the guy behind it, he's just helping out like Jeremy Palmer did, who also makes over $2M a year at PPC. Amit knows his stuff, join up. the info there is top class.
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    • Profile picture of the author nofearman
      Save your money, buy Perry Marshall's "Ultimate Adwords" book. for $20 Perry is far beyond most self proclaimed PPC gurus.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    I was a member and for me the PPC Classroom version 1 was good but what I liked the most was that Jeremy Palmer was involved. The membership for me was not worth it and I stayed there to long. I also didn't like some other things but I won't get into details here.

    Version 2 is with Amit Mehta and he seems to know what he is talking about.

    Version one was $500. This one is $77.

    I'd say if you want to get into Adwords it could very well be worth it to you but you need to really consider how you like the membership the first 30 days. That's the part I found useless. It may not be useless to everyone.

    I canceled so I don't think I can get version 2 for free. I think PPC Classroom 1 owners are supposed to get version 2 also but I'm no longer in the monthly membership.

    If you want to get this I would recommend you buy through Jeremy Palmer's link because he is giving ihs PPC Classroom 1 as a bonus for anyone who buys PPC Classroom 2 through his link.

    I don't mind recommending that cause I think he's a top notch guy.

    He's also got a whole free training course at the Black Ink Project and his great e-book is free too. Google him and you'll find him.
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    • Profile picture of the author econos
      Hi Tommyp,

      Can you please give me Jeremy Palmer's link?

      Thanks.

      Originally Posted by tommyp View Post


      If you want to get this I would recommend you buy through Jeremy Palmer's link because he is giving ihs PPC Classroom 1 as a bonus for anyone who buys PPC Classroom 2 through his link.

      I don't mind recommending that cause I think he's a top notch guy.

      He's also got a whole free training course at the Black Ink Project and his great e-book is free too. Google him and you'll find him.
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      • Profile picture of the author tommyp
        I'll PM you the email. You should've PMd me cause I didn't plan on coming back to this thread and I may not have seen your message, but I think you still have time.

        Originally Posted by econos View Post

        Hi Tommyp,

        Can you please give me Jeremy Palmer's link?

        Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author RoyChan
    What's the upsell after you paid $77? Don't like all the launches that surprise you with the "really" good stuff after their lowly priced item...
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    • Profile picture of the author jrsencio
      Originally Posted by netpro7 View Post

      What's the upsell after you paid $77? Don't like all the launches that surprise you with the "really" good stuff after their lowly priced item...
      You know that was what I was thinking exactly.. you get hit with an upsell that you were not aware of on the sales page and that would be fine really, unless on this one time offer page it sounds like you need to purchase the upsell in order to fully reap the benefits of the product you are purchasing...

      Another peeve of mine is when a sales page declares you get an array of bonus products, but when you buy the product you find out you cannot get the bonuses unless you sign up to the mailing list of the owner of the bonus you want to download.. isn't a bonus an added gift for making the purchase?
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      • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
        Originally Posted by jrsencio View Post

        You know that was what I was thinking exactly.. you get hit with an upsell that you were not aware of on the sales page and that would be fine really, unless on this one time offer page it sounds like you need to purchase the upsell in order to fully reap the benefits of the product you are purchasing...

        Another peeve of mine is when a sales page declares you get an array of bonus products, but when you buy the product you find out you cannot get the bonuses unless you sign up to the mailing list of the owner of the bonus you want to download.. isn't a bonus an added gift for making the purchase?

        That's one thing that put me off too. I liked the bonuses from PPC Classroom itself, but didn't think too much of the partner bonuses. Most of them are memberships offering first month free trial, and after that there's a monthly fee charged.
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      • Profile picture of the author Banned
        Originally Posted by jrsencio View Post

        Another peeve of mine is when a sales page declares you get an array of bonus products, but when you buy the product you find out you cannot get the bonuses unless you sign up to the mailing list of the owner of the bonus you want to download.. isn't a bonus an added gift for making the purchase?
        Yea, and some of them were not what they make you think they are from the descriptions. Also, that Affiliate Uprising from those HexaTrack guys never came through. They said something about delaying it for 30 days or whatever because they claimed it would be better to go through the modules and laying the foundation before getting into their "super advanced" Affiliate Uprising site. I think that was all a pretense to keep people from canceling PPC Classroom 2.0 (by making us believe we had to stay on past the money back guarantee period - 30 days - in order to get their bonus). If that's the case there was no stipulation that a person has to stay on with PPCC2.0 to get the bonus so I am still expecting it. If that's not the case then they haven't come through and I'm still waiting. I've heard through the grapevine that Affiliate Uprising is sort of a joke though. I don't know. But we were told we'd get it so I still expect it. At least I haven't heard a word from them since they said they'd send it and it's way past the deadline. If these guys don't come through or say something I won't buy anything from these HexaTrack guys in the future.
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        • Profile picture of the author learnmore
          Ok I read through some of the posts in this thread. What happened to Amit and Anik's course. I could gather that they were delaying VIP access running into some technical issues etc, what happened in the end?

          Are their similarities to Arbitrage Conspiracy?
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          • Profile picture of the author pa321
            Ok I dont understand how you could find a value in PPc classroom guy's but i respect your opinion.The only thing i want to discuss here is where are the bonus promised i got half of them and then promises promises.Also the regular training it is easy to say get this 497$ keyword service and you will succeed or manage at least 20.000 keywords and it will be fine.But here we all are looking for a manageable system from regular people not people who test their PPC campaigns with 497 $ services that we pay!!
            Never buy from them anymore that's sure
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    • Profile picture of the author JWB
      I was involved but didnt feel the $77 upfront and the $27 monthly cost was worth it...there were about 3 upsells to the membership
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        Is it going to reopen in near future? Would like to hear as I missed it this time around,
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    The upsells revolve around niches handed to you, a copy of a prior seminar and other stuff. There are a lot of upsells.
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    • Profile picture of the author upnorth
      I bought this yesterday.

      Too early to say if it's good or bad, but first impression about the site management is not that good. I can't even access the Bonus items, they are having tech problems.

      Yesterday they sent a generic support message

      ''...As I'm sure you are aware, we're having some technical problems with the system.

      The errors are being worked on around the clock right now and we'll have them fixed ASAP...''


      I tried to contact support a few minutes ago and can't even access the ticket system.


      Originally Posted by netpro7 View Post

      What's the upsell after you paid $77?
      The upsell ! you can't miss that one, they are even going stronger then GoDaddy, If you registered a domain with them, you know the style...

      So, I don't know if this product was ready for launch:confused:

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  • Profile picture of the author Yetty
    I think it should be a good one. $77 Is not bad
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  • Profile picture of the author dean mcevoy
    from what iv heard i think ill wait a while before stumping up.

    although by then there will proberbly be let anouther "miricule guide"
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    • Profile picture of the author elofmark
      I bought PPC Classroom last night, and I too am a bit miffed by all the upsells. $77, then a OTO for $97 -(7 videos), then another OTO for 3 free niches / month $297, but if you said no, the price was cut down to $137, then a final OTO for a $700 /month coaching program.

      I thought I would be able to download a lot of the content, but it is all server based. So I started going through the info last night and finally went to bed.

      Today, I can't access the website. I have never received a welcome email. My login doesn't work for the help desk. So I don't know what to say.

      My next step is to call my CC to see if it was charged.

      It's probably a great program, if they can figure out their technical difficulties.


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      • Profile picture of the author lpmarket
        I've been trying to join today but can't complete the order process. The upsells, in my opinion seem like things that should be in the course to begin with.
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        • Profile picture of the author lpmarket
          I just received a call from my credit card fraud protection that my credit card was charged twice by ppc classroom for $77 even though I have not been able to complete the sign up process.

          Just a word of caution... maybe wait... don't even try to sign up because the system just charges your card even though the sign up process is broken.

          By far the worst online purchasing experience I have ever had!

          Call me nuts but I still want to join...

          P.S.
          I keep trying to post a comment on the pcc classroom blog because its the only way for me to contact them... but the moderator won't post the comment... what with that.
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          • Profile picture of the author dean mcevoy
            Originally Posted by lpmarket View Post

            By far the worst online purchasing experience I have ever had!

            Call me nuts but I still want to join...
            thats the power of a good copywriter for you:rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author khughey
              Purchased the base $77 package.

              I just now went into the training area.

              I haven't gone through the training yet so I can't review on the actual content. However, I browsed around the site and I was expecting a bit more.

              Doesn't look like the $77 option includes any video/multimedia presentation by Amit. Was hoping to hear him teach about some of his techniques within the member area. Looks like most the training is divided into modules that then display static pages with no ability to download the content (at least none that I see at the moment). The few pages I looked at seemed pretty basic and I didn't see anything that looked like "insider info" from the expert. Maybe there isn't much insider info needed....just a boat load of action and a little "luck" (actually believe luck is "laboring under correct knowledge").

              There is a forum area, but it appears that I don't have access to it. Not sure if this is due to the $77 option or some technical glitch.

              I'm starting to think that the experience I was expecting after watching the sales videos is not what you get for $77, but maybe the upsells instead. Oh well.... I'll go thru the content in the next week and decide if it's worth the investment.

              Of course, the site may change over night....who knows.

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              • Profile picture of the author khughey
                Originally Posted by khughey View Post

                Purchased the base $77 package.

                I just now went into the training area.

                I haven't gone through the training yet so I can't review on the actual content. However, I browsed around the site and I was expecting a bit more.

                Doesn't look like the $77 option includes any video/multimedia presentation by Amit. Was hoping to hear him teach about some of his techniques within the member area. ...

                I'm starting to think that the experience I was expecting after watching the sales videos is not what you get for $77, but maybe the upsells instead. Oh well.... I'll go thru the content in the next week and decide if it's worth the investment.
                In order to be honest.... here is an update on my earlier post....

                As I'm now actually going through the training, it looks more comprehensive than my first impression. There are some additional links that I initially missed that expand the material quite a bit.

                I hope that the lessons will eventually be available for pdf download.

                It's looking better.....
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      • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
        Originally Posted by elofmark View Post

        I bought PPC Classroom last night, and I too am a bit miffed by all the upsells. $77, then a OTO for $97 -(7 videos), then another OTO for 3 free niches / month $297, but if you said no, the price was cut down to $137, then a final OTO for a $700 /month coaching program.
        This tactics is cagey. The creator wants more money from you. So please be careful.
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      • Profile picture of the author eebee
        I also can't access the site. Am pleased to hear that it is not just me so they must be having a problem. I just got an acknowledgement I bought it but not a proper receipt and no way of logging in. Hope they fix it soon as no response from them after 3 emails. I think if they are having a problem it shouldn't stop them answering help emails.

        Re all the upsells. It just made me want to get a refund since the first product already promised all of that and now they tell me it doesn't do it, right after I paid. Only they do not even tell you how to get a refund!
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        • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
          Originally Posted by eebee View Post

          I also can't access the site. Am pleased to hear that it is not just me so they must be having a problem. I just got an acknowledgement I bought it but not a proper receipt and no way of logging in. Hope they fix it soon as no response from them after 3 emails. I think if they are having a problem it shouldn't stop them answering help emails.

          Re all the upsells. It just made me want to get a refund since the first product already promised all of that and now they tell me it doesn't do it, right after I paid. Only they do not even tell you how to get a refund!
          Don't go there! Blimey O'Reilley. I tried to get a refund as I wasn't that impressed and was suddenly locked out of their support system and website. No reply to my emails or support requests. Zilch. There's no other way of contacting these guys ... suppose i'll just have to contact my CC company and get the next payment blocked.

          I'd be careful with this one. Not saying they're dishonest but their system is in no way set up properly ... i think i just got burned.
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          • Profile picture of the author dectomax
            Originally Posted by TessaRose View Post

            Don't go there! Blimey O'Reilley. I tried to get a refund as I wasn't that impressed and was suddenly locked out of their support system and website. No reply to my emails or support requests. Zilch. There's no other way of contacting these guys ... suppose i'll just have to contact my CC company and get the next payment blocked.

            I'd be careful with this one. Not saying they're dishonest but their system is in no way set up properly ... i think i just got burned.
            I have requested a refund and have now been locked out of the Support section. What the hell? Will I get the refund or not. What kind of customer service takes a support ticket and then locks you out when you request a refund??

            These guys are supposed to be O.K. from what I've heard but it's not looking that way.
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            • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
              Yes, don't worry. These guys are honest but the system just wasn't ready to go when resealed. I had to submit a support ticket @ Affiliate Classroom to ask if I could please view my support ticket at PPC Classroom. They gave me my access back - so try that. My tickets had been answered satisfactorily but I had no way of knowing that!

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              • Profile picture of the author dectomax
                Originally Posted by TessaRose View Post

                Yes, don't worry. These guys are honest but the system just wasn't ready to go when resealed. I had to submit a support ticket @ Affiliate Classroom to ask if I could please view my support ticket at PPC Classroom. They gave me my access back - so try that. My tickets had been answered satisfactorily but I had no way of knowing that!

                Tessa
                Hi,

                When I log in to either the member login or the affiliate login, it jumps to a page that says "Please complete your registration" and then jumps back to the login page saying "No new members are being accepted".

                If I then re-click the "Member Login" link, it jumps into my account showing training progress etc BUT none of the links work including the Support link. It just keeps saying "You do not have permission to access this page"

                I'm pretty stuck here. Does anybody have an email address for them that I can contact directly??

                Thanks.
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                • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
                  Here you go. This one worked for me so good luck!

                  This paragraph is lifted from one of my support replies from Affiliate Classroom when I asked for access to PPC Classroom support.

                  " If you are having trouble with that please e-mail me personally
                  at Andrew (at) AffiliateClassroom.com and we'll try to get your issue
                  resolved within 24-48 hours. "

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                  • Profile picture of the author dectomax
                    Thanks very much. Emailed him and all sorted. Seems they had refunded the money and then shut my account. The money must be taking time to come through to my card.

                    Thanks again.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
                      Hey, you're welcome!

                      Glad it all got sorted.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
    Some people don't understand that the upsells are good marketing. They are teaching their customers how to buy from them.

    It raises customer value, and if the additional information and training warrants the price, than why would you be upset with them offering it to you?

    Marketers who sell a front end product and that's it go broke. It's as simple as that.

    Look at Filsaime and Stomper. Theres a reason they make 8 figures a year and it's not because they stop at 1 front end product in their sales process.

    Frank Kern does a $297 forced continuity on a $1997 product. Then he sold a Platinum coaching program at the free seminar he held for all customers - BUT the value is there - and that's what really matters.

    His higher end customers get more personal access and coaching, his monthly members get great content, and he gets PAID. It's a win-win

    It's way more constructive to learn from peoples' sales processes than to criticize them.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    It's way more constructive to learn from peoples' sales processes than to criticize them.
    You wouldn't find flaws in things if you just default them as being right. Analysis and criticism is useful when done objectively and creatively.

    Jay, I think it's because people are promised the world upfront and then are let down by being bombarded with OTOs and Upsells after they decide to pay for the introductory product. This makes them feel that what they originally decided after (sometimes, long) consideration is not good enough and feel deceived into getting the first product just to be coerced (so to speak) into entering a crazy maze of "super size its" that basically send the message or at least is interpreted by the customer as "You won't make it without this extra stuff or will be handicapped just with the original product". You can argue about it but that's the psychology and arguing logic isn't going to change it. And I believe that at least at some level people's reasoning in this situation isn't always emotional and has good reasoning behind it.

    Doubt enters the mind and thoughts like "Well if I don't get that coaching and I don't get this and I don't get that I am going to be at a disadvantage. I won't have the edge that others have because I can't afford all that and so then what's the point?.. I probably won't be able to get everything I can out of the original product plus I feel duped and I am tired of feeling like I am being played with"

    There may be those who don't understand the profitability in this model but many others do, and they aren't necessarily ignorant of it. But the bottom line is that even if they recognize the potential in upsells, OTOs, cross sells, etc., at that moment they are a customer who is parting with their cash and being taken on an emotional roller coaster ride who may resent the seller for feeling like were being played with and that's it as far as I am concerned.

    And let's face it - most people who buy these are not experts who are even in a position and have any sort of anything they could truthfully call a business to which they can apply these models.

    They are people who are at some level of desperation who may or may not cut it at this sort of stuff at any rate regardless of where their motivation comes from (either buying a dream or are in serious or in the right state of mind).

    A lot of people knee jerk into accusing people of being scammers and have joy in bitching in defaming others but taht doesn't mean that all grievances are invalid.

    Probably more often than not it is the sellers fault (I'm not necessarily saying it's the case here) because they make big promises that they don't deliver in order to get people through the door.

    I don't blame these guys for doing what they do. They are in business and if I ever have the opportunity I will upsell and do OTOs, too, but ether will always be those who are in a situation, state of mind, special circumstances and in a place in their life that will help dictate whether or not what is in front of them or the loop they fall into has value or not and rightfully so.

    These sellers need to accept, if they don't, that often they create the disappointment people experience.

    Yea, customers need to take responsibility but as long as some of these guys do some things the way they do they will make people resentful and they can be okay with that (I don't blame them too much because you can't please everyone) but they have to accept it and there's no point arguing because like I said at the time they are generally people at some level of desperation and if they feel like you're being slimy they will get mad and they can actaully be right and not wrong regardless of whether they recognize the model they are using.

    As far as value that is in the eye of the beholder. For all my wanting to quit smoking and using the methods in the Mass Control monthly in order to keep my membership I was disappointed in the last issue. I have canceled. To me it was a joke. But to the next person it may be the bomb. It all depends.

    Anyway I'm done rambling.

    I've read the posts here and a lot of it sounds familiar to the first launch.

    Amit no doubt knows what he is doing but I also have little doubt that one thing he will recommend is that you have to do what is necessary to keep your campaigns going even if it means taking a risk like getting a credit card, spend thousands if need be and hope to make even in profit to pay that off and that is going to be scary to people.

    For anyone who doesn't want to do that you will have to take the long and patient road, limit your budget to what is comfortable and be willing to wait much longer.

    I think the original offer will be good even without the OTOs, so it could be a great investment for a lot of people, but you may want to get Jeremy Palmer's bonuses or someone else's. Like I said before Jeremy Palmer is giving away PPC Classroom version 1 for buying through his link.

    But if you have bought other Adwords ebooks and even a couple of higher priced Adwords courses, you might not need this. Try it if you want and if you don't like it then get your money back.

    I feel like I wasted my time cause it's always the same song and dance at these launches but if I helped anyone with my post then there you go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
    All valid points. And first I just want to be clear, I'm in no way affiliated with PPC classroom, and I don't promote them either, so I can't say a thing about the pros or cons of their actual product.

    The point i'm making is that every single time a new product launches, people flock to the forum to bitch about the upsells, the oto's, the continuity, etc

    Whereas if they learned from the actual sales processes themselves they would clearly see how these dudes are making as much money as they do.

    And just like you said. The content for MCM wasn't valuable for you, so you discontinued.

    No one can't do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author lpmarket
      Tommy well said.

      I just received an email thanking me for my purchase (never authorized). And no log-in link, password or anything.

      I did learn something from the sales process....How not to do things.
      You can be the best marketer in the world but if you can't close, then whats the point?
      You can create the best product ever created, but if you can't deliver, whats the point?
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      • Profile picture of the author elofmark
        Still no welcome email.

        I tried to login again, and chose to reset my password. I entered my email and they said check your email, we're sending your PW. Well that was 30 min ago. Still nothing.

        But I did get 2 more emails from affiliates saying the server crashed but it's all up and running again. So I guess they can sell more product, but they can't take care of the people who already bought. Great way to do business!

        If I ever find out how to get their attention, I will be asking for a refund.

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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by Jay Deiboldt View Post

      All valid points. And first I just want to be clear, I'm in no way affiliated with PPC classroom, and I don't promote them either, so I can't say a thing about the pros or cons of their actual product.

      The point i'm making is that every single time a new product launches, people flock to the forum to bitch about the upsells, the oto's, the continuity, etc

      Whereas if they learned from the actual sales processes themselves they would clearly see how these dudes are making as much money as they do.

      And just like you said. The content for MCM wasn't valuable for you, so you discontinued.

      No one can't do that.
      Jay, I understand your point. I agree that is one way to milk as much money as you can from your launch. I also understand that people always go through the same rigamorole (sp?) that why I said it's always the same song and dance every time.

      Although people making character judgments because they did get their login and pass is going to far. These things can happen to anybody, but based on my experience with the first one they seemed to be very disorganized and maybe that's happened again.

      But I know what you're saying dude. I don't disagree, but seeing what they are doing and learning from it, while that's fine, doesn't address the problems people are facing right now.

      All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
    I totally agree - you should learn from the good and the bad. It's a great way to find what to do, and what not to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author elofmark
      Thanks, Jay!

      BTW. I just followed you on Twitter!

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    As an FYI regarding the site issues...

    These guys had everything ready to go on their end in preparation for a HUGE roll out launch. Several servers, backup server, all kinds of goodies.

    But that didn't stop the problems. There were apparently some issues with their MySQL - the fault of their server company. It didn't rear it's ugly head until launch time.

    I'm sure they will have everything sorted soon. Including any unauthorized or double charges. Just keep checking back with them.

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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    I think you can learn a lot from the upsells People need to do what is best for themselves (like the merchant is doing with upsells). If you do not want something - don't buy it.
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  • So far - good stuff. But I'm a little suprised at your "find it hard to believe" comment. You've never used PPC?
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    • Profile picture of the author econos
      I would like to have a detailed comparison between Commission Blueprint and PPC Classroom 2.0.

      Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Derekis
        Originally Posted by econos View Post

        I would like to have a detailed comparison between Commission Blueprint and PPC Classroom 2.0.

        Thanks.
        Hi econos,

        I second your opinion. Anyone can give a more detailed comparison of Commission Blueprint against PPC Classroom.

        Many thanks in advance.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    Ok the PPC Classroom 2.0 launch had its hiccups, I would like to add my .02 cents here

    1) The upsells - personally I am not a big fan of the series of upsells. Mike Filsaime compares the digital product upsell to adding a coke to your meal at your burger joint. However unlike digital product upsell, in the coke analogy I have already had a coke so its not a big decision to make.

    I saw these series of upsell firsthand when I took up the 7 figure secrets trial offer and it felt like, hello just let me complete the damn order. However when you look at it from a marketers perspective you will realize that you may not always be able to satisfy 100% of you customers. So turns into a numbers game.

    If you are going to have 98% happy customers and 2% not so happy customers (because of your upsell), would you want to make "X dollars" or would you want to make "5X dollars"?
    (Assuming you over deliver on the value promised irrespective of the customer bought the upsell or not)

    2) Regarding the tech issues with PPC Classroom, I agree it was a mess. Now being a JV partner its a bigger mess for me because I am sending PPC traffic and when that damn sales page dosen't load means I am losing money. However I have launched membership sites and do know that sometimes there are hiccups.

    I do understand that as a customer if I dont get instant access to the product that I ordered I would be pissed. I guess PPC Classroom has the support system built into the same private member area, so that might be the reason why some of you may not be able to access the support.

    Anik runs several membership sites and I am sure he will fix the tech issues shortly, however if you are still paranoid shoot me a PM with your name and email that you used to order ppc classroom and I will forward that to the affiliate manager at PPC Classroom. I doing this just as a fellow warrior and I dont promise the response you will get.

    3) now the bigger question several people have asked here about the value ppc classroom 2.0

    I have been a member of PPC classroom since the time it launched in Oct 2007. And I have also reviewed whats inside PPC Classroom 2.0. V 2.0 is completely different from V1.0 and has keyword manipulation tools, landing page templates and graphics packages.

    For $77 (even if you dont buy any of the upsells) I can tell you , you will get 20x what you will learn from a $47 ebook on clickbank.

    However I will tell you this, its not a miracle solution, you will still need to put in $10-$20 a day for your ad campaigns and work your a** of to make a profitable campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author troon
      I joined on Tuesday, my CC was charged, never received a welcome email and never have been able to access the member area. I understand that there may be problems with any launch, however, what is unacceptable is that my support request have been completely ignored. I have sent them FOUR emails, issued three support tickets, called them and left two voice mails and used their "lost password" link three times. NO RESPONSE! Yes, I have white listed their support email addr. and others as well and I check my spam folder regularly.
      Tomorrow I will do a charge-back on my CC because there is obviously no way to request a refund if they won't answer inquires. STAY AWAY!
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      • Profile picture of the author Zach
        Ya, Troon is 100% right! Stay away from PPC Classroom. No support whatsoever. Also doing a charge back!!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author fielding
          Sure they have had some technical problems but PPC Classroom will give you refunds so chill out ..

          I think if you flood their technical support you are only going to slow the refunds down .. But regardless nowhere else are you going to find this level of ppc training for $77 dollars .. check this out ..

          check out the blog ppcclassroom.com / blog

          You might learn something too from the upsells .. I mean this is a forum about internet marketing right
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliateppc
    Tech issues aside, it was worth the money for me.

    I have been doing affiliate marketing via PPC for 7 months now and I am making a decent living with it. After reading the sales page, I realized that I am already familiar with most of the material. However, they covered one aspect I wanted to know more about.

    That one aspect (1 Module in the training related to Keywords) alone was worth much more than the price tag. For me personally. It was a light bulb moment. I was doing the complete opposite of what I was suppose to be doing and I STILL made money. I have now implemented the change, still too early for results, but my eyes were opened. This one aspect alone will make me a truck load of money in the next 12 monts.

    In my personal opinion, thats what it is all about. Learning something that you can implement that will increase your profit. And for $77? Cmon!

    I am looking forward to meeting other PPCC members in the PPCC Forum once it is opened. One thing is certian, the networks are going to be sending me bigger checks in the months to come.

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    • Profile picture of the author lpmarket
      I finally got into the members area today. In a previous comment I said it was BS that people could be "Half way through the training". In all fairness after getting in and almost finishing half the training today it IS obviously possible... so that previous comment I made was not correct.

      Still have issues with getting support and accessing the forum, but I'm going to go through the course and give a more complete review and opinion later.

      After seeing how many people were viewing this thread, I personally don't want to unfairly discourage people who may actually benefit from the course.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Well, I can tell you this, for those that get in now, are going to save a BIG AMOUNT! And I mean HUGE!

    I was one and still am one of the PPC Classroom 1.0 guys, I paid $500 to get into the course then $49.97 a month thereafter to access the forum and all the information there.

    Now, you guys are getting it for $77.00 and then $29.97 thereafter each month... You've also got more information to view, far much more than PPC C 1.0 guys had...

    Anyone who doesn't take Anik up on this offer, must have rocks in their head - no offense ment, btw...

    Seriously... I took a long time out from PPC before coming across PPC Classroom, and lost about $6,000.00.

    After joining, I was down to about 12k more, I figured I had missed some critical information, and sure I had after searching the forums and asking Jeremy Palmer who was on the team during the first version, and he helped fill in some gaps that I had over looked.

    I now spend around $100k a month, sometimes less, sometimes a little more returning not a big amount, but pops into the 30% ROI area every once in a while.

    Now you guys are getting Amit on the team showing you even more tricks of the trade.

    Jump in! You'll be glad you did.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Collins
    So does any body have any thing worth while to say about the actual content of the product. I've looked at it several times and am still interested but not ready to jump for the buy button.

    Let me get this straight - you pay pay $77 for the trial and $29.97 thereafter each month. That gets you access to the automation tools. There are 3 OTO's - one for $97 (videos), another for 3 niches $297 month, and last but not least a final OTO for a $700 month coaching.

    What you are to believe on the sales page is the you can do this successfully for $77 for the trial and $29.97 after. But all the hidden behind the buy button costs make me think differently.

    A lot of talk and testimonials on the sales page from PPC Classroom 1 how much they make collectively. Don't say how many people in that group and how many are making money and how many not. The first 5 testimonials at the top of the page seem to be from people using PPC C2 but the 10 down below although framed with a large title that says "Customer Testimonial PPC Classroom 2 new" but at the bottom says (small print) "** This testimonial is from last year's course..." - which was PPC C1 not C2. I find those type of sales copy techniques less than honest. Kinda used car salesman tactics. If something is good you need to inflate the balloon. Guess they had to fill the page with something. How about telling about all the upsells and true cost.

    That said I'm still on the fence of buy or not. Some of the people here defending the product I recognize as a launch partner(s) or affiliate(s) with something to gain so I'm dismissing your post(S) when I decide. I'm either on your list or I found you via Google. I may still buy via your link I just want to hear from people not making a buck on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author lpmarket
      The $77 is not for a trial but for the base course. The additional monthly fee is for continuing education on more advanced topics and continued access to the forum, as I understand it.

      As far as content I am on Module 4, there are 9 total. So I have gotten some info especially about how to recognize possible good products with clickbank and CJ. But the lessons can be applied to other Affiliate Networks too. The section on keyword research also seemed to be good, in my opinion.

      I've been doing PPC only for about 6 months. Of course until I actually put the information in this course to work and am able to give more information... sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author brendan301
    I bought yesterday and received access to the member's area a few hours later. What I'm waiting on now is access to the forum. I have some questions on some campaigns I want to put up ASAP.
    Overall, I like the content, I've gotten some good ideas in the introductory info. The videos sometimes won't play so i download them. but so far so good, i have no complaints.
    I have to get some campaigns up before i can report on results. matter of fact, i might blog about that. in addition, time permitting, i may do a post here on my results
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
      I am just starting to go through the modules now, most of my online income is from organic listings but I have a decent amount of ppc knowledge so I am looking for advanced stuff.

      I have no problem with upsells, that's good marketing that you can learn from but I skipped most of them ( especially the one where the upsell is showing you how to set up a campaign live as I assumed this would be covered in the course ? ) . I did take the niche 30 day trial where "under the radar" niches are discussed, the pdf reports are decent but I was disappointed they focused on well known clickbank products as this is hardly "under the radar".

      The fisrt few modules are aimed at beginners, if you know how to research keywords and find good affiliate programs with CJ and Clickbank then you won't find any secrets but the information is solid enough.

      Check out Module 4, step 5 , that's when it starts to get interesting for me.

      A lot of the really good stuff will probably be added in later modules so there is the incentive for keeping members wanting more detailed information but it's a no brainer to try out for $77 with a money back guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    Hi John,

    I understand you are a bit sceptical of a review from a launch partner/affiliate, however I have made video of whats inside ppc classroom and show how to use some of the tools too. You can find that video in my signature.

    Even if you don't buy the upsells, new bonuses are being added today. And these are not some hyped up stuff but real products that are being sold right now for way more than the $77 price tag on ppc classroom 2.0

    Here is some of the bonuses that is being added to ppc classroom 2.0 just for today and it seriously blows the bonuses of launch partner/affiliates.. damn it..
    1. Affiliatextreme - Mark Ling ($197)
    2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack - Amish Shah ($2,000)
    3. Premium NicheBot - Jim Morris ($382)
    4. Google Cash v2 - Chris Carpenter ($67)
    5. SECRET COURSE - Andre Chaperon ($497)
    6. Keyword Butler - MindValley Team ($147)
    7. SpeedPPC - Jay Stockwell ($397)
    8. Negative Keyword Smackdown - Mark Roth ($247)
    9. LIVE PPC Event - Howie Schwartz ($1,000)

    I seriously doubt if anyone can make a better offer for $77.
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by Shravnan View Post

      Hi John,

      I understand you are a bit sceptical of a review from a launch partner/affiliate, however I have made video of whats inside ppc classroom and show how to use some of the tools too. You can find that video in my signature.

      Even if you don't buy the upsells, new bonuses are being added today. And these are not some hyped up stuff but real products that are being sold right now for way more than the $77 price tag on ppc classroom 2.0

      Here is some of the bonuses that is being added to ppc classroom 2.0 just for today and it seriously blows the bonuses of launch partner/affiliates.. damn it..
      1. Affiliatextreme - Mark Ling ($197)
      2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack - Amish Shah ($2,000)
      3. Premium NicheBot - Jim Morris ($382)
      4. Google Cash v2 - Chris Carpenter ($67)
      5. SECRET COURSE - Andre Chaperon ($497)
      6. Keyword Butler - MindValley Team ($147)
      7. SpeedPPC - Jay Stockwell ($397)
      8. Negative Keyword Smackdown - Mark Roth ($247)
      9. LIVE PPC Event - Howie Schwartz ($1,000)

      I seriously doubt if anyone can make a better offer for $77.
      are these new bonuses only for people who buy today?
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      • Profile picture of the author troon
        Because of all my support problems someone said to chill out because I can get a refund. Will that "someone" please tell me how I can a get refund if they do not respond to support emails? Guess I'll have to do a charge back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
    Hi Brendan, You will get those bonuses if you have already purchased ppc classroom 2.0.
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  • Profile picture of the author DonDavis
    Is the addition of bonuses after the initial launch, part of the launch strategy or is it a sign that the product isn't selling as well as expected and needs a push?
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    • Profile picture of the author elofmark
      I'm still among the folks who can't log in, can't get an email returned, can't get a password reset, can't get any help tickets responded to, even sent an email to andrew@affiliateclassroom.com (like he said on the site - if all else fails!) and still no response.

      What am I supposed to do? Act like nothing is wrong? Believe that they will get their ____ together and cross my fingers?

      Someone should be in charge of people that have dropped out of sight like me. Makes me wonder if they are so overwhelmed that they can't think straight.

      Stephen
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    Okay, I went and bought it today just because of a couple of the bonuses.

    I haven't looked at it yet and I know 99% I won't keep the membership (based on my last experience - it was 90% worthless to me) but I'll try to remember to say what I think here after I look at it. If it's not worth it to me, I will get a refund. Even if it isn't (main product) but I like the bonuses I won't get a refund, but if I'm not happy enough with all of it in general I will.

    This is what I did when I ordered:

    First page:

    I did get the first 30 day free niche thing. I did this not because of the niche. Everybody is going to have the same niches and keywords so what's the point. I did it because of the videos. It might be interesting to see what criteria Amit has for picking a niche and to watch him do it.

    I opted to learn more about the 7 videos.

    Second page:

    The videos were what I figured. They are the videos from PPC Classroom live 2007. We were supposed to get these for free, but then we didn't but they eventually uploaded presentations from 2 speakers. I got miffed about this last time so now I said "No Thanks I'd rather learn this on my own" choosing not to get the videos. If I remember right most people who got them said they were okay but overall no big woop.

    Third page:

    This is for "Look over my shoulder" videos. I didn't get it (Something similar to this should probably have been part of the main purchase, but whatever). If they keep their promise with the main product what is told in these videos should generally be covered in the PDFs. If I don't, I'm getting a refund.

    So to all you lucky people there are still 143 left instead of 142 :-D

    Fourth page:

    Same offer as above at 50% off but you get the videos after they are done. So if you were to get the offer on page 3 then reconsider whether you absolutely need to attend live. If not then just say NO and get them half off when it asks you again.

    Fifth page:

    It was the final download page with 3 of the modules and saying that they will set up my account and get back to me.

    I thought there was some offer for $700 monthly coaching but I didn't see that. Maybe that was limited and they sold out. Doesn't matter because I would have said no anyway.

    Okay. I'll wait and see what happens.

    ==========

    Okay, I'm sorry that some people had trouble but either I got lucky or it's been fixed because I got my login and and password immediately and I'm in the member's area. I think I have to wait for access to the forum. I haven't gone through anything but they have my congratulations for doing a good job organizing things in the members area because last time it was atrocious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron.Walker
      I"ve purchased the course and think it is great.

      Does anyone know how to join as a JV/affiliate of the PPC Classroom? I don't see any 'affiliate' links or other information showing the way to resell this product to my list.

      Byron
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
        I still haven't had time to go through the whole course but I am surprised that some guys are complaining about the bonuses. The real value may be slightly hyped at $5000 plus but the bonuses are certainly much better than your normal product launch ones.

        The bonus course from Andre is excellent and I paid $49 plus taxes for this when it first launched, you will find some real gems in that course actually more powerful than some of the tactics mentioned in ppc classroom !

        I also don't understand why anyone would object to a free trial of products that are closely linked to ppc marketing, it's hardly the owners fault if you forget to cancel the subscription.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Neale
    I was finally able to login tonight and looked around, read and watched some modules, tried a few tools and even took one of the quizzes after a module.

    I think this is worth the $77 for sure, at least for beginner-intermediate. I don't consider my self an expert in PPC-Aff Sales so I can't comment on what an expert might think of the value.

    Haven't even looked at the bonuses yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author heatwave13
      I bought the program on launch day, looked it over and quickly decided that ppc in general just wasn't for me--at least not at this point in time the way they teach it. So, I filled out one of those tickets, requested a refund and have not heard anything from them yet. But, I try to log onto the site to check my ticket status and I get an "ACCESS DENIED" message. What? How will I find out about my refund? Will THEY contact me on the email address I gave? It's been a few days now and I have not heard anything and am getting frustrated with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author troon
    elofmark:

    I have same problem as you and have also done everything you mentioned and still no response from support. I even called them and left three voice mails!
    Very frustrating. If not resolved by Mon. will do a charge back on my CC. There is simply no excuse to ignore repeated support requests from a customer who has paid hundreds of dollars. These guys probably have a great program...to bad I can use it!
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
      troon have you tried going to the login page and clicking on 'reset password' and then resetting?

      that worked for me

      Originally Posted by troon View Post

      elofmark:

      I have same problem as you and have also done everything you mentioned and still no response from support. I even called them and left three voice mails!
      Very frustrating. If not resolved by Mon. will do a charge back on my CC. There is simply no excuse to ignore repeated support requests from a customer who has paid hundreds of dollars. These guys probably have a great program...to bad I can use it!
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      • Profile picture of the author troon
        David - I tried the password reset several times but no response. I have their email whitelisted and also check spam folder regularly.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Neale
          I just received this. It may help. Frankly the bonuses are worth the $77 on their own. I could go into detail but it's easy to read about them for yourself. I'm not associated with these guys in any way but I will probably become an affiliate if I ever find the time.

          Hi

          I'd like to introduce myself, my name is Fields
          Marshall, I am the lead trainer for PPC Classroom 2.
          I really look forward to working with you and I personally
          welcome you to the group!

          I also want to personally apologize that this support issue
          persists, we are literally just 1-2 days away from having
          everything fixed up. Then, we will make an announcement
          that really makes it up to you - promise!

          HOWEVER - GOOD news!

          I have made a quick video which could really help
          you understand exactly what's involved in resetting
          your password so you can get started right away!!


          You may have tried before but please follow the
          instructions in this video:


          ppcclassroomaccess


          Currently, and as a security measure, we are
          unable to see your password therefore you must try to
          reset the password yourself.

          Remember - the login area is

          Home : PPC Classroom 2.0 | Discover the Secrets of a $2.4 Million PPC Affiliate

          The password page

          Home : PPC Classroom 2.0 | Discover the Secrets of a $2.4 Million PPC Affiliate

          Again sorry for the delay in attending to your login issue
          but we have been ( with 12 bonuses today ) and will be
          (more news on Monday) making up for the technical issues
          with great content.

          If you have ANY more technical issues or billing issues
          please know that we have noted them and will be getting to them
          ASAP.

          If you need more assistance please email
          support@affiliateclassroom.com and we promise to get
          to you as soon as possible.

          Once again, Welcome To PPC Classroom!

          Sincerely,

          Fields Marshall
          Lead Trainer
          PPC Classroom
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    • Profile picture of the author naruq
      Excellent Post Jay! I agree with you. I have purchased marketing products online and offline and the marketer who tries to upsell me with additional products and services that will add value will have my business.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    David, if you haven't looked at the bonuses yet you should.

    I haven't gone through the course. I went through the bonuses first (only a couple I only just started) because that's why I got it (I mean, $77 for SpeedPPC and that's just one thing. Are you kidding me???) and I just finished watching Howie Schwartz's videos.

    A lot of what that guy said is exactly what I believe and I got a real kick out of it and the rest I was like "That is such a good idea".

    At least that one right there is pure 60 to 90 minutes of solid information. I think it's part of a larger course. I had never heard of the guy before.

    Another reason to grab the bonuses first is because there may be a time limit for which to get them.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
      Quickly looked at the bonus stuff and it looks good.

      You don't get SpeedPPC for nothing though, that would seriously upset previous customers. You can get a 60 day free trial from what I can tell.

      But even that's a very good deal.... plenty of time to see if it makes you money.

      Originally Posted by tommyp View Post

      David, if you haven't looked at the bonuses yet you should.

      I haven't gone through the course. I went through the bonuses first (only a couple I only just started) because that's why I got it (I mean, $77 for SpeedPPC and that's just one thing. Are you kidding me???) and I just finished watching Howie Schwartz's videos.

      A lot of what that guy said is exactly what I believe and I got a real kick out of it and the rest I was like "That is such a good idea".

      At least that one right there is pure 60 to 90 minutes of solid information. I think it's part of a larger course. I had never heard of the guy before.

      Another reason to grab the bonuses first is because there may be a time limit for which to get them.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    Yea, but then if you want you can get the PPC Classroom discount if you want to keep it. I think it's 40% off or about $200 off.

    60 days gives time to use it a lot I guess :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author themarketingdirt
      Zero customer support? Buying and not getting the login immediately....Credit cards charged twice! That's scary... I wanted to buy the product but reading this post gave me 2nd thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chazzer
    I wish I'd read this thread on Thursday morning before breaking out my credit card...

    I too have had the same problems -- with the added bonus (gee I just love bonuses, don't you?) of no response from the affiliate whom I went through.

    On the other hand, early this morning I located Amit's blog at SuperAffiliateMindset dot com and posted a comment. (HINT: HE'S READING HIS COMMENTS SO IF YOU GO THERE YOU'LL GET THROUGH...) Of course he didn't approve (gee...I wonder why) or post it (which makes me doubt the integrity of this program), however he emailed me the following:

    "I'm forwarding this to our product manager. You have my personal promise that we will take care of this. My apologizes for the inconvenience.

    Sincerely,
    Amit Mehta"

    Have I heard from their product manager yet??? Oh heck no. So I sincerely wonder what a "personal promise" is worth? :confused:

    I'd love to say that I think this is worth it, but I can't since I have no idea...

    ***sighs and goes to get another cup of coffee***


    Chaz
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  • Profile picture of the author fbeach_73
    i dont even have time to dedicate to this thread on ppc classroom .. the guys put 2gether a real lackluster effort and to this day have yet to respond to my support tickets
    I have since day 1 not been able to access content and for the short time I did have access, it all seemed like version 1 all over again

    they are handing support ticket inquiries off to a site called Affiliate Classroom .. Dude named Andrew Ahn has been responding with a generic BS email from the support ticket, telling me to log back into the ppclassroom area and submit another ticket cause all the problems they had from day 1 are messing their backend up etc

    So weve played this charade for a good 5 days now, and today I went inside members area at ppcclassroom, only to find ALL links inside members area lead to a page like this:

    You Do Not Permission To Access This Page
    BACK

    not only am I not impressed with their course, I am totally unimpressed with how people take the money and TRY to run in this IM Biz..

    They were not one bit ready to launch and for the life of me I can still not figure out why so many went to bat for them (big names who offered bonus etc)

    Buyer Beware, I will be in contact with Visa on Monday they are already familiar with this situation and are in fact investigating multiple complaints (I can only assume cause of this issue right here)
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    • Profile picture of the author fbeach_73
      Same message over and over from him i have got since tues:

      *** important message

      I'm terribly sorry for the trouble, and I am aware that
      many of your tickets have been in here waiting patiently
      for a reply however, this support center cannot assist
      you in your billing matters for the recent release of PPC
      Classroom 2.0.

      I implore you to please resubmit your ticket to the PPC
      Classroom support center if you have not already.

      You can find the link to this support center on the bottom
      of the members are once you have logged into the site.

      If it is the case that you cannot log into the PPC Classroom
      please enter your e-mail address to the link below:

      Home : PPC Classroom 2.0 | Discover the Secrets of a $2.4 Million PPC Affiliate

      And you will be given a link that will allow you to reset your
      password. Please be sure to this this once as the password
      changes each time this is done.

      If you are having trouble with that please e-mail me personally
      at Andrew@AffiliateClassroom.com and we'll try to get your issue
      resolved within 24-48 hours.

      If you have already submitted a ticket and/or sent an e-mail to me
      please DO NOT send another message. If you have not received a reply
      in 48 hours please let me know, but I assure you we have all of your
      messages and will get to in a prompt fashion. If your issue has been
      resolved please disregard this message.

      Thanks very much,

      Andrew Ahn
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      • Profile picture of the author elofmark
        This is a circus! Where are the clowns? It's turning into a comedy of errors.



        I just got an email from support@affiliateclassroom.com with my login information.

        However, they didn't include my password.

        Here's how it was:

        Password:

        I'm thinking they should be investigated by their state's AG office.

        Stephen
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by fbeach_73 View Post

      not only am I not impressed with their course, I am totally unimpressed with how people take the money and TRY to run in this IM Biz..
      I understand the frustration. I really do. But how can you say you are not impressed with the course when all you got was error pages clicking on links in the member's area? If that's true you couldn't have seen the course, unless you forgot to say that you were only able to see that part.

      I'm not going back on my original post but that's apples and oranges. That post was about upsells and misleading people.

      Things like this can happen. I've never experienced it but I can imagine that it can be daunting and so bad that even though it's been five days they have trouble fixing it and maybe they really are trying.

      Whoever is unhappy should just get a refund if possible and if you can't get in touch with them or a response for a refund then just do a charge back if you can.

      Just because this is going on doesn't mean they are intentionally scamming anyone.

      I hope you can get your money back.
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  • Profile picture of the author elofmark
    Thanks, David, for the help. I really appreciate it.

    I went through their video, and used your links to try and reset my PW, but as usual, no email is sent to me, so how can I reset my PW? I sent a second email to support@affiliateclassroom.com and still nothing. I have posted 3 times on PPC 2.0 blogs, as well as Amit's blog. Still nothing.

    I know they have me in their system, because I got ONE email from them yesterday saying that their server would be down for one hour. Big deal.

    Stephen
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Chua
    wow..sounds quite bad.
    I am thinking of signing up for it but I think I shall wait another day or two to see.

    stephen
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  • Profile picture of the author John Collins
    Can any body tell me how many bonuses are trials with or without a discount to buy. I find this deceptive and not to be a bonus but a lure leading to additional sales. Even if they say members get a 40% discount you can believe they are still going to get a 10% to 20% commission beyond that for funneling their members.

    I had some additional launch partner bonus offers today and almost decided to buy but checked in here again. But I guess I'll sleep on it at least once. I just don't get how something like PPC can be so complicated. These guys learned it. It may have taken them a long time to master it and with all the monthly options it sounds like joining and learning at PPC C2 will take a long time too.

    It's like being hooked up to a drip feeder and somebody else is controlling the drips. You pay under the impression of learning faster but are you really learning faster or being milked faster than you learn. Just something to think about. Also when people give you info and niches and they do the same thing I think they hold back the best for themselves and throw you the crumbs or what is slowing down for them. Just thinking out loud.

    Sometimes you learn more from multiple sources than from one. What one person will hold back another will offer freely. Sometimes when you want to know something if you ask nice you get the answer free. This initially sounds
    like there is a reasonable price to learn PPC but I see different numbers as the months pass by. I wonder how many members will make their money back in the end. That's a lot of clicks.

    For now until I decide yay or nay I found a PPC course in the War Room that seems pretty good. I'm only up to module six of fourteen. Good info - Text and video in each. Free for members of the War Room (Thanks Allen) It's the first thread so it's popular and active. Not only that but you have access to all the other exceptional info and help in the War Room. Possibly the best value per cost I spent this year. (Thanks again Allen and members of the War Room). Did I mention NO SUPPORT ISSUES for the War Room and you won't be looking for a refund. Just my opinion. Something productive to do while you're waiting for your customer support emails to find your inbox.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr BOLD
      Originally Posted by John Collins View Post

      Can any body tell me how many bonuses are trials with or without a discount to buy. I find this deceptive and not to be a bonus but a lure leading to additional sales. Even if they say members get a 40% discount you can believe they are still going to get a 10% to 20% commission beyond that for funneling their members.
      Speed PPC - 60 day trial
      Nichebot - 30 day trial with 2000 premium credits
      Wordbutler - 6 months trial
      HexaTrack - 3 months trial
      All others - totally free - One case study by Andre is really good

      Yes the PPC Course inside the war room is a good one. So many people have contributed so much value inside of the war room forum that there is nothing that compares to the war room.

      Is doing PPC as an affiiliate really that complicated?
      No its not and it isnt simple either. On the surface it looks simple - right offer=> targeted keywords=>targeted ads=>targeted landing pages=>speicific merchant pages

      However you need to achieve the right combination of (offer, keywords, ads, landing pages) which takes a lot of trial and error. And remember every click costs you. If you aren't meticulous about your numbers you would lose money faster than you make some.

      So all that a training course is going to do you is make you aware of how you should approach ppc, give you some tools to accelerate the process and help you not lose money. Beyond that you still need to put in a lot of effort and succeed by trial and error only.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Neale
        These guys did a great product launch. One of the worst product deliveries in history.

        BUT

        They're not crooks (in my opinion). The $77 is well worth it.

        It compliments the Commission Blueprint offer (The CB guys second this also).

        This in today

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        We have GREAT news today, it just keeps
        getting BETTER and BETTER!

        Please read it all the way through:

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        1. 99.8% Errors & Access Issues RESOLVED =====================

        We've been working around the clock,
        but we've figured everything out and
        everyone is already inside getting trained.

        Actually we already have REALLY awesome
        stories - success stories!

        IF, you are having ANY problem at all,
        I mean technical problem - please limit
        this to only technical problems, then
        read this post, and fill out the form by clicking the link at the bottom of it.

        PPC Classroom 2.0 Blog Archive Full Update On Errors & Access Issues

        ** PLEASE limit the questions you place
        there to ONLY technical errors or access issues.

        Continue to use the ticketing system for anything else.

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        2. Our Emails Are Being Blocked By Some...
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        SBCGolbal, ATT and BellSouth are blocking us and we're doing everything we can to unblock. But, for now if your e-mail is using these, you're not going to get our mails.

        ** Most likely you're not even read this : /

        Read this blog post to know what you can do to fix this...

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        3. NO Time For Laziness!
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        I literally have 3 e-mails in my inbox in the last 2 hours from SUCCESS STORIES. Students are already implementing and getting great results.

        If you have not yet started, what are you waiting for? Get started right away!

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        We understand how frustrating this was for a few of you. It's not how we feel you should be treated, it was just Murphy's law in play.

        BUT, of course we take responsibility and you just watch! We're about to start making it up to you in a BIG way.

        Amit and I have some crazy plans in store for everyone!

        Alright, get back to studying, I have more updates but will send them a bit later!

        Anik Singal & Amit Mehta
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  • Profile picture of the author Chazzer
    Well, after trading emails back and forth with Amit yesterday, come to find out they didn't charge my cc. Interestingly enough, they had the correct cc number but it wasn't charged. Makes me concerned that I'll be double charged now. I did go ahead and put another $77 on it just to see what they have, however went for none of the upsells that I did on Thursday.

    I did send them the following...

    I've thought long and hard about this and decided that I will purchase PPC Classroom but this time I passed on all your upsells -- only opting for the $77 program. It's too bad that due to this you've lost over $400 but I simply can't trust you guys. Also, when I went in to purchase, all my cc details still remained in the system. This is scary.

    Apologies aside, you simply can't run a business like this. I may not be a guru like you guys, I may not be a PhD, and honestly, I'm suck ass broke -- but at least I know how to treat people and how to run a business.

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    I hope they get the idea but I seriously doubt they will...possibly after most ppl cancel after they received their bonuses, which I think will probably happen.


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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    You're right, technical issues aside, PPCC 2.0 is actually very good so far. Jeremy Palmer's PPCC 1.0 course was great but it things went wrong and I won't get into the rest. Let's hope things begin to run more smoothly and they don't repeat some of the things from the first time around.

    The monthly for this one is lower than it was for the first membership. I'm not even sure if the first membership is still around and in a separate directory or if it was done away with and 1.0 members just automatically brought over to the 2.0 membership.

    But the forum still appears to be unavailable and if it continues this way we won't really get to try it before getting charged the second month. At least I can't get to it.

    And the course is designed in a way to make you feel like you have to stay a member.

    What happens if you don't want the monthly can we still get to the material we paid $77 for? (rhetorical)

    The first time I couldn't access the membership site and membership forum for almost 3 months because it appeared that my ip was blocked and so I had no way to contact them.

    I finally managed to get through by proxy (after I found one that worked) and told Fields Marshall.

    Was I paying those 3 months? You bet I was.

    After I was able to get back in normally I canceled immediately and told customer support the situation. I asked them to meet me half way (less!) and at least refund me the last month. They did not but I got a nice "You will not be billed anymore. Let us know if there is anything we can do for you" completing ignoring my request for a refund for just one of measly month out of three without access (I was ready to return Mass Control Monthly at my expense when I asked for a refund but even they said "Go ahead and keep it and if you get next month's package by accident just keep that too and don't worry about it")

    I was able to login in to the site for a limited time (not to the forum but to the control panel where the ticket system, material, etc., was linked) and I was curious to see if I could still get the material that came out while I paid, and not to my surprise I couldn't. It's okay because I downloaded the whole site before I canceled.

    This time it's $77 for material that has to be viewed from the member's area. I would be wise of them to make sure people who don't go for the monthly membership or cancel can still login to access what they paid $77 for because if not this shit storm will be nothing compared to the one that will come.

    Without commenting on all the doubt inducing upselling "you have to get or elses" and finagling cliffhangers to stay on as a paying member the material in the modules (so far) is very good with minor no big deal complaints from me.
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    • Profile picture of the author LivingCovers
      Hmmm... useful info here. Better to spend time watching from afar
      than getting burnt.
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  • Profile picture of the author sannyman
    Dear all,

    I will not comment the value of the product itself, because it is too soon to do it, but I have something else to share with you: what to expect from their customer support.

    So, I (tried?) to purchase the product / subscription and it went well, until the first upsell. Taking a closer look, I said, what a heck, let give it a try... So, I "upgraded" the order, BUT something went wrong, the transaction didn't go through and I've been instructed to use another CC. I must mention that I have access to the real time stats of my bank account(s), so first thing first was to check IF they took / blocked ANY money from the "failed" order. Guess what? Everything was as supposed, NO change into my account's balance.
    The main reason to make this check was the fact that after the "failed" transaction, I had to start all over, again, from the beginning. So, being sure that the transaction "failed", I decided to start from scratch, using a second EMAIL ADDRESS and a second CC... This time all went properly and I took only the first upsell.
    On this second email address, I got 4 emails but none into the other one, used with the "failed" transaction. Somehow normal.
    Why these emails are important? They contain the invoices and the (preset) credentials in order to access THE site.
    Next day, I've been unpleasantly surprised to see that the money went out, over the night, from BOTH accounts. Moreover, it took me an entire day (24 hours) to figure out that the entity which took the money was "affiliateclassroom.com" and not PPC classroom. So, I jumped again in their sales letters, web site, customer support of affiliateclassroom.com and managed to get a phone number.
    So, the second day (last Friday actually), I called each half an hour that number, only to find out that NO ONE is available to take my calls, at their billing department. All day, no one.
    Next step, was to open a support account at "Affiliateclassroom.com" and file a complain for being billed twice. Hours later, (please read "very fast" in this context) I've been informed that the support ticket was closed, because affiliateclassroom.com is NOT giving assistance for such issues, even if THEY took the money from my account and not PPC one... Moreover, I've been instructed to go to "PPC classroom" FORUM and register for a support account. They even supposed that I may have LOST my (preset credentials) password and "gently" provided me a link (from PPC classroom, obviously) in order to reset it...

    So, while there was NO email ever received on that email account, obviously, there was NO access at all to their site, because they left NOTHING publicly available, as would be "normal": contact us / customer support area.

    Nice, isn't it? So, what I did next was to use the ONLY login credentials that I had, browse for the support area, open an account and copy & paste my complain from the site that actually took the money. This happened on Saturday, by the way.

    At the time I am writing you about this unique experience that I enjoy with PPC, NO ONE issued ANY answer to MY problem, even if a full working day (Monday) already passed...

    Obviously, it is a problem being billed twice by whatever company which DOES NOT answer the phone, which DOES NOT offer at least the "billing" issues assistance and which forwards you towards a restricted access site, where no one seems to deal with ANY issues at all.

    I look forward to see if something "moves" on their side... And obviously, let you know.

    If, by any chances, someone form PPC is reading this, I strongly suggest to use HIS time to read first the support tickets. And if he still has some time left, to answer them...
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    if you need help, use fields @ affiliateclassroom.com and he'll help you out.

    The forum will be up in a week or so, their sorting it out trying to fix some bugs and integrate it with the members area.

    As for those not impressed with the course material... I've had a look and it's a LOT better than the PPC Classroom 1.0 version, 1000% times better.

    Any hows, accessing the forum is the least of people's worries right now, for as long as they can access what they paid for, that's all that counts.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    The forum will be up in a week or so, their sorting it out trying to fix some bugs and integrate it with the members area.
    And the first 30 days free access to the forum had better begin counting down from when the forum does open and not counting from the time people bought PPCC2.0
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Of course it would be, what do you take these guys for? Rip off merchants? If that's the case, why buy the bloomin' thing if you have these things on your mind.. struth... Anik and Amit are probably one of the most honest and legit people around on the internet - rare thing these days...

    Just give them some time to sort out the programming problems and you'll be told when the forum is open.

    Patience is a virtue... and until that time, learn all that decent stuff in the members area.
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      Of course it would be, what do you take these guys for? Rip off merchants? If that's the case, why buy the bloomin' thing if you have these things on your mind.. struth... Anik and Amit are probably one of the most honest and legit people around on the internet - rare thing these days...
      I was a PPCC1 member right from the beginning. I bought it as soon as it came out and got Jeremy's limited to X number of people secret niches. That's how soon I was in and I saw everything that went on from the beginning.

      I already said earlier that all these technical problems doesn't mean they are scammers and I don't believe they are, and I am not implying that, but since I have witnessed and see happening all over again how messed up things are, and my own unenjoyable experience it wouldn't surprise me if things like what I mentioned happened, even if it is unintentional and technical mistakes.

      I bring it up because I know you are a/were a forum moderator there and they may even be quietly watching this thread for all I know.

      Why buy the bloomin' thing? Because I wanted to report back on the product because there are many people here that contact me about stuff in private because they know I will tell them.

      I've already said the course is good so far what I've seen and I've told people what to expect during the buying process.

      I also got it because I was curious.

      Rip off merchants?
      Yea, well, I do have about 2 to 3 months of not being able to access the old forum unrefunded.

      But that's history and I'm giving it a second chance.

      Just give them some time to sort out the programming problems and you'll be told when the forum is open.

      Patience is a virtue... and until that time, learn all that decent stuff in the members area.
      I'm not impatient. I'll wait and I'm looking forward to getting in there to pick Amit's brain and to see you and whoever else that I remember from the old forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    well i want to purchase , but i feel scary after reading this stuff. I love all the bonuses. One thing for sure i will join if and if they allow me to join via paypal. I love to use almost all the options of payment like all major credit cards and paypal. I even use alertpay . Because i dont want to lose any buyer. But i am sure if amit is using only credit card then there is some reason for it. I am sure they know they are losing lot of customers because of no paypal option.

    This also means they can cover up this lose by some other way. Whats the way , i have no idea. I just received an email they are going to close this down after 2 hours. I dont know when your forum is not working, your support system is working so bad. How you can close it all?

    I wonder why so many big guns are promoting this stuff. They havnt even tested the entire thing and they are sending emails to all the subscribers.

    I havnt seen anyone warrior here who will say "This course kick ass and i earned x amount of dollars" . Anyone?
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Ignore those other negative people. Once you get inside the members area you'll see what it's all about and it's definitely worth the money... If you're not happy, you can always ask for a refund.

    I've already said that this course is top notch... I got in at the PPC Classroom version 1, back in 2007, I was even on their member of staff at the Las Vegas Event... you might even see me in the videos (I'm on the right hand side sitting on the staff chair...lol)

    I went from $6k down, not making a sale, to a year later spending around $60-100k a month with Adwords. Go figure, what they show must work. And that's before Amit arrived. There's stuff there that wasn't even shown in the first group. And cheaper this time round to-boot.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashenjr
    I was not a big fan of this course. I feel like they take a long time to tell you things that most already know. I also felt like they were sucessful and wanted to make money off of that. They are not going to give you there secrets or really show you how they make money. IMO
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    • Profile picture of the author Mary Green
      The course is great. I joined the second I could on launch day through a secret link that was open for all of 5 minutes and I paid double. I also bought an upsell but asked for a refund and have had that all taken care of. I know they are working on the techinical side of things and they are trying to get everything in order. It was annoying that they started with such a mess, but it is more than worth the $77 to join if you are at all interested in doing ppc. From their bonuses, to the partner bonuses, word butler for free for a year, and the modules and such, it is a great price for the whole thing. You cant go wrong. You just have to give them time to pick up. They are both pretty hot names and they arent going to destroy their reputations for this. There is a lot of great information in the course as well and if you fly through you better do it twice cause you are going to miss great information.
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by ashenjr View Post

      I was not a big fan of this course. I feel like they take a long time to tell you things that most already know. I also felt like they were sucessful and wanted to make money off of that. They are not going to give you there secrets or really show you how they make money. IMO
      You never know, there is no doubt in my mind that there are things Amit knows you will not find in the modules but will drip feed over time in the monthly membership.

      And just supposing there are some things that people know that they keep a secret it doesn't really matter. Not knowing some trick or something is not going to make or break anyone.

      There is no big secret to Adwords. You have to have landing pages, with your privacy policy, about page and contact and have links to articles on your site and making it a blog or having a blog on the same domain doesn't hurt, and do things the way Google wants, even though it can suck (and for all their talk about relevancy I think the bottom line for Google is money. I've seen them do things to my CPC that does not go along with how people tell you Google handles CPC, but generally if you follow the rules you will be better off)

      This is to give you the better chance at a better QS and lower CPC so that you can have a better chance at a profit.

      Next is knowing how to pick products, testing, and managing.

      Like they say it's a numbers game and you will need to have money. That's what is limiting me at this time (I have not been paid in about 4 months by the merchant whose product I was selling which was my main income) and I suppose if that is what limits people they will have to only test what they can afford and take a longer time to do it.

      The information in PPCC2 is pretty solid even though I don't doubt you read things in there you may already know. So have I.

      In the end, there isn't much risk. There is a money back guarantee and if for some reason something goes wrong then pay with a CC if you have one so that if puch comes to shove just block payments to them and do a chargeback.

      They are not scammers (I don't believe so), and I may be shooting myself in the foot for always having such a big mouth and telling it the way I think it is, but I don't think they are crooks and I do not believe they would risk their reputation.

      What they need is to get better customer support and go with a tried and tested management system so that these things don't happen. But in the end, these things can happen to you and me or anyone. Sometimes things just mess up and they should be cut some slack for that as long as they keep on top of things and do things right, unlike the first time around.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    well, although your entitled to your opinion, your wrong. You don't know them. I do. You haven't tried out their previous course, I have. I've made money from their course. I'll tell you now, if you think you know it all with adwords, and can make $30K+ a month constantly, then great, you don't need it. You might know it all, but I doubt very much you do. There's no bars held here when it comes to the information in the members area, the same stuff Amit teaches his own students who are absolutely killing it in PPC.

    Go figure, I guess they don't know what they are talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMChick
    Another customer service nightmare. Gee, do people doing launches actually not think they're going to get orders?! I'm waiting for access to the upsells, but my patience is thinning. If everyone starts the course angry from the horrible service, they won't stand a chance at success on the content because noone will be listening then. Refund rates go through the roof!
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    In all this mess, they have closed the gates. I am sure lot of people missed this whole thing due to technical problems. I have sent them email regarding whether we can pay via paypal. Lets see how much time they take to respond
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewS
    While I like the guys at PPC Classroom and have to give them credit for such a great launch with all the pre-videos and viral tactics (genious). I just want to touch on the bonuses....

    I hate to ever say anything bad about anyone's product or tactics, but at the same time ethically, I feel like I need to share with my fellow IMers to be careful with the bonuses offered.

    All of them are TRIAL offers, and most of them will start billing your credit card after a certain number of days...some 30 days...some 60 days.

    Just be careful...I know many IMers are on a tight budget, and would hate to see you lose money on something you don't even know you're buying.

    Also, I do agree with Jay about the upsell, that's part of IM and they do a Damn good job at ppc classroom on the upsell!
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by AndrewS View Post

      While I like the guys at PPC Classroom and have to give them credit for such a great launch with all the pre-videos and viral tactics (genious). I just want to touch on the bonuses....

      I hate to ever say anything bad about anyone's product or tactics, but at the same time ethically, I feel like I need to share with my fellow IMers to be careful with the bonuses offered.

      All of them are TRIAL offers, and most of them will start billing your credit card after a certain number of days...some 30 days...some 60 days.

      Just be careful...I know many IMers are on a tight budget, and would hate to see you lose money on something you don't even know you're buying.

      Also, I do agree with Jay about the upsell, that's part of IM and they do a Damn good job at ppc classroom on the upsell!
      You're wrong. It isn't as bad as you say, but I was kind of disappointed too.

      The only one I didn't have to opt in for (as far as I remember - and not that I blame them for the opt in) was Howie Schwartz's bonuses but it was misleading because it said you get his seminar videos at a value of $1000 but it's only three videos from it. Not the whole thing.

      Adwords Accelerator gives no explanation. You click the link for the bonus and it goes straight to the order page saying you will be billed after the trial. I guess I could have just found the sales page myself to see what it's about before taking the trial, but no thanks.

      Gauher Chaudry's bonus is free but it's just basically supposed to tell you whcih of your ads are getting the best CTRs? I don't know but I wasn't impressed. He does have a big discount (at least I think it is) on PPC Formula.

      Google Cash isn't ready. Which is fine as long as it really is free like they said.

      Marketing Bully was delivered as promised. These guys also had a second bonus up about PPC but it's not done and they'll notify by email it says.

      Negative Keywords was delivered as promised.

      Nichebot is a trial. I can't remember whether or not it said it was on the front page. I didn't go for it.

      Wordbutler is a trial but it's a year free. It didn't take any of my payment details so I know when the year is up I won't be charged. I guess it'll just stop working which is fine.

      SpeedPPC. I think it did say it was a trial but to be honest I'm not in a place that I will be using SpeedPPC in the next 30 or 60 days or whatever doing states, cities and zip codes and whatever. So that one is going to run out. At first that was one of my main reasons but now I realize it is completely worthless. I should have waited before signing up but I thought if I didn't sign up for these free "bonuses" that they'd take them down before I could get them.

      Affiliate Extreme was delivered as promised.

      Affiliate Uprising and HexaTrack Pro - They way they worded it made me believe that Affiliate uprising was free and not a trial nor limited and that HexTrack Pro came free with it for 3 months. But when you go through getting that bonus you get upselled for a year and if you decline you get another downsell for 6 months on stuff. In the OTO it mentioned Affiliate uprising for a year and then on the downsell for 6 months - I could be wrong, but that makes it seem as if Affiliate Uprising is not free at all and also just a trial even though it was supposed to be "Affiliate Uprising PPC Bonus - and you get 3 months HexaTrack with it"

      I don't know if I missed anything. What I wanted most was Nichebot, SpeedPPC and HexTrack/AffUprising. The others I could take or leave (although I liked Howies videos even though theyre incomplete)... But I dont know where Ill be in 30 days and I don't want to forget to cancel Nichebot in case I can't use it. If I can't go back in the future to claim it then oh well. SpeedPPC like I said turns out o be worthless even though I don't beleiev they will charge. It will just stop working so that's good. And Hexa/AffUprising is just a disappointment if Aff Uprising is limited too.

      In the end, this is just too much crap. I claimed most of the bonuses except for trials where they wanted to do a subscription to charge me later, but I'm not gonna look at even half of all that junk.

      Bonuses was not as good of a deal as it seemed, for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author sylvestor
    I've been getting the same in my inbox but have yet to check it out fully. From what I've seen, looks pretty informative though. Worth checking out to get a handle on adwords, I think I will.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by goins0410 View Post

      yeah i doubt he makes 2.4 mill a year
      Well, now THAT was helpful...

      As an FYI, he does.
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      Want a bet!?

      Originally Posted by goins0410 View Post

      yeah i doubt he makes 2.4 mill a year
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      • Profile picture of the author bsmith
        Originally Posted by goins0410 View Post

        yeah i doubt he makes 2.4 mill a year
        Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

        Well, now THAT was helpful...

        As an FYI, he does.
        Originally Posted by askloz View Post

        Want a bet!?
        I'll bet

        See Introducing PPC Classroom 2.0.... | Super Affiliate Mindset -- scroll down to where he says:

        Hi Ramo,
        Net profit after ppc adspend was around $1 million.
        -Amit
        FYI, Ramo had asked how much of his $2.4 million gross was profit (look up a couple of posts).

        As yet another FYI, Amit doesn't actually net that $1m either. He reveals in another post that he pays a significant percentage to his "team" to do the grunt work for him so he has time to live what he likes to call the "super affiliate lifestyle".

        In short, according to his own posts on his own blog, he makes a few hundred K a year (before taxes) off PPC (which is a nice living obviously and more than enough to qualify him as "an expert", IMHO).

        As for my review of PPCC, I bought PPCC 1 and was "underwhelmed" with it. I think PPCC 2.0 is a better product (and definitely a better value considering the price).

        Personally, I bought PPCC 2 mainly for the bonuses. I was about to buy Marketing Bully for $49 when Andre said I could have it as a bonus, so I really only paid $28 for PPCC 2 the way I see it...and I figure Amit is almost certainly bound to know *something* I'd pay $28 for, LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author John316
    No way is everyone gonna agree whether this is a great product or not.

    The correct answer is truly subjective to ones own parameters for greatness. It's kinda along the lines of, some people like cats and others think cats are filthy, sneaky critters. Pick any subject, and we will find a way to disagree in many ways.

    In my opinion, this is a very good course, at worst. The reason I can say that is because I am new to PPC/Adsense, and this course is serving as a real teacher to me. No one is really talking about the support tools-the bonus section, not the partner bonuses- that go with the course. They are a very useful supplement to the written course material.

    As a newbie, I am going through this material very slowly and methodically, taking notes, thinking about what I'm reading and seeing and hearing.

    I wonder as I read some of the posts here, how many are blowing thru the material so fast they miss a lot of thinking points.

    Please don't misunderstand me here...I am definitely NOT slamming anyone, but I believe sometimes in our search for the "thing" that we are all apparently searching for, we get to expecting a magic solution and forget that no matter what system, advice, ebook, report or course we ultimately land on, the bottom line is to study and completely understand that choice, and take action on that choice. And by blowing thru some of these courses or whatever, and I am truly as guilty as anybody, we miss a lot of valuable information.

    There may be a PPC course available that is better than this one, I don't know. I could spend a lifetime trying every one of them I come across to compare, but that means I would probably never conquer any one of them and never take action. Not to mention very broke...no wait I'm already broke. Can you be more than broke? Anyway...

    I guess my point is, the course is very good IMHO, especially for a newbie because it presents PPC in an understandable format, with bite size information and illustrations, video, worksheets, mindmaps etc. to help the "student" stay on track. But you must commit to the learning process, not just to the reading/skimming over process.

    I will take what I can from this course and maybe it will be enough. If not, then I will worry about trying to find the next "guide".

    I was also fortunate enough to buy in on the first day and had zero problems with any part of the purchase or process. I always get logged in and support is great.

    I truly appreciate the views and insights shared on the forums here. Thanks to all and I hope I haven't torqued anyone off, ramble too much or wandered too far off subject.

    John316
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      The forum will be up in a week or so, their sorting it out trying to fix some bugs and integrate it with the members area.
      Yea well looky now. Now they are saying it wont be up for 30 days because they "want everyone to go through the training first". No mention of bugs. Wasn't PPCC2 a 30 day money back guarantee? So anyone who wants to make use of the forum for help during their first 30 days can't, and so only 30 days later will they find out whether or not the forum is helpful to their learning (or if it's crap to them and they want to bail) - it will be too late to get their $77 back. Sounds like stringing along.

      They should just be straight. If it's really technical problems then say so and then it shouldnt take 30 days for a forum. But it's not because of technical difficulties because like they are saying they wont give access to the forum for 30 days because "they want people to go through the training first", THAT IS THE LAMEST EXCUSE I HAVE EVER HEARD.

      Originally Posted by John316 View Post


      In my opinion, this is a very good course, at worst. The reason I can say that is because I am new to PPC/Adsense, and this course is serving as a real teacher to me. No one is really talking about the support tools-the bonus section, not the partner bonuses- that go with the course.
      Yea people have. You must not have read everything. It's okay if you have nothing like that but if you have a tool like Keyword Transformer you wont need any of that, but if you dont then maybe it will be useful.


      I wonder as I read some of the posts here, how many are blowing thru the material so fast they miss a lot of thinking points.

      Please don't misunderstand me here...I am definitely NOT slamming anyone, but I believe sometimes in our search for the "thing" that we are all apparently searching for, we get to expecting a magic solution and forget that no matter what system, advice, ebook, report or course we ultimately land on, the bottom line is to study and completely understand that choice, and take action on that choice. And by blowing thru some of these courses or whatever, and I am truly as guilty as anybody, we miss a lot of valuable information.
      Basically you're saying they must be blowing through the material because they don't like the course?

      Maybe, but that's speculating just like people speculate about their practices. Very few people here are saying the course isn't worth it. Most of this discussion is actually about the merchant practices, sliminess, misleading, etc.

      John316
      Not to go off topic, but most people don't know what John 3:16 means. It doesn't mean God loves the whole world and gave Jesus to die for everyone. If you want me to point you to a place where you can learn more just PM me.
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        Yes there is, you don't look very far do ya?
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        Yea well looky now. Now they are saying it wont be up for 30 days because they "want everyone to go through the training first". No mention of bugs.
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        • Profile picture of the author tommyp
          Oh come off it. This is the exact same crap you've been pulling lately like in another topic when someone called you "askloz" and you called him an idiot because he didn't look in your signature to see your name is "loz" even though it's common for people to refer to others here by their login names. So you pick on BS instead of the crux of the matter just because you have to be right.

          And now you're coming back at me with that reply when it does/did in fact say in the member's area that the site would only be available in 30 days because they wanted people to go through the training before they could get to the forum, and there is or was (I haven't logged in in days) no mention of maintenance there. Why in the hell should I look far when I have a statement right there in front of me in the member's area? I'm paraphrasing but that's what they said. I meant "no mention of bugs in the member's area" and even if you didn't know what I meant that doesn't change the fact that they said it was because they wanted people to go through the training first.

          Your quip cop outs are becoming tiresome.

          Unless you can answer questions instead of waltzing around specifics your posts here hardly count considering you may have a bias since you're a moderator over there and all you give are BS retorts and can hardly answer anything definite.

          I've had enough of coming back to this thread. I'm as stupid as you are for constantly returning.

          Originally Posted by askloz View Post

          Yes there is, you don't look very far do ya?
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    tommyp, quit your whinging man, don't like it, get a refund, simple, be one of those that don't make hundreds of thousands a year in PPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author tommyp
      This is a reviews section and as long as I'm allowed Ill say whatever the hell I want, just like you so eloquently stated you do on review sections in your post on Duncan's Yahoo software thread in the classified section.

      And dont put words in my mouth, I never said I didn't like the product. I've even stuck up for them on certain points.

      Instead of replying to what you call whining with your own whining give answers instead.
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      • Profile picture of the author nofearman
        Tommy, Just buy Perry Marshalls "Ultimate Adwords" book for $20, you'll save a lot and probably learn a lot more. I think Askloz is on the PPC Classroom payroll. Or maybe an affiliate promoting the product.
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        • Profile picture of the author brendan301
          Originally Posted by nofearman View Post

          Tommy, Just buy Perry Marshalls "Ultimate Adwords" book for $20, you'll save a lot and probably learn a lot more. I think Askloz is on the PPC Classroom payroll. Or maybe an affiliate promoting the product.

          are you a member of ppc classroom? if not then how can u make this statement?

          i AM a member and happy with what i've received so far. I also have perry marshall's book and amit covers a way to build, expand and organize kw lists and campaigns that's worth the cost of this material alone. perry's book doesn't go that far into detail. and like most good marketers perry's using that book to "introduce" you to him and his other products. that book is only an introduction to his more higher priced seminars, books and membership programs.
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          • Profile picture of the author askloz
            Originally Posted by nofearman

            I think Askloz is on the PPC Classroom payroll. Or maybe an affiliate promoting the product.

            LOL, that's funny, no i'm not on their payroll, I just believe in their product, if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be making a $20-30k, and some months a lot higher, each month - on autopilot. You'll learn a more at PPC Classroom than the Perry Marshall stuff.
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            • Profile picture of the author jesselucus
              Hi all,

              I purchased the PPC Classroom 2.0 membership, too.

              And, I've completed Modules 1-9 and passed each of the tests. There are a lot of helpful information. I tried so many times correct my mistakes to pass the test. This is really great course for PPC newbies, like me.

              I will keep my membership and wait for new courses next month.
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            • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
              Originally Posted by askloz View Post

              LOL, that's funny, no i'm not on their payroll, I just believe in their product, if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be making a $20-30k, and some months a lot higher, each month - on autopilot. You'll learn a more at PPC Classroom than the Perry Marshall stuff.
              Did you get more value from version 1 or the new product?
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              • Profile picture of the author askloz
                Well, there's a lot more stuff in version 2 than there was in version 1. But there was enough stuff in version 1 to get a lot of people off the ground for the first time. Now version 2 goes one step further, to go way overboard to push up the percentage mark of those to earn more than $5k per month, which many version 1 members are currently doing during the last year.

                With Amit on board showing his "view" on how he does things, with the outlined course material will surely speed up the learning curve in a big way.

                I'm still yet to go through all the material, but from what I have seen so far, I just wish it was included in the first version.

                Those that get in now, are saving big time, but I have been told that this price is going to go way up! A lot lot higher since so many people have jumped in.

                I'd grab it now if you haven't before they do raise the price.

                Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

                Did you get more value from version 1 or the new product?
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    • Profile picture of the author acchrcoach
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      tommyp, quit your whinging man, don't like it, get a refund, simple, be one of those that don't make hundreds of thousands a year in PPC.
      Hey Askloz: I like your suggestion: "don't like it, get a refund" That is exactly what I want to do. I've made multiple attempts without results. Do you have a suggestion as to how those of us who are unhappy can get that refund?

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
        Originally Posted by acchrcoach View Post

        Hey Askloz: I like your suggestion: "don't like it, get a refund" That is exactly what I want to do. I've made multiple attempts without results. Do you have a suggestion as to how those of us who are unhappy can get that refund?

        Thanks!
        You should contact Amit directly. He's got a blog. When I was on the program, the help desk was hopeless. Straight after I requested refund, they barred my access to the pages, including the helpdesk. So there was no way that I could contact them about anything regarding my refund. At the end I had to contact Amit to get this resolved. Don't get me wrong, I still believe it's a very good product. But I'm very picky with support and customer service. That's what put me off the most.
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  • Profile picture of the author nofearman
    I watched the promo video for PPC Classroom and I was quite surprised when Amit answered a couple questions about Clickbank that sounded like he didn't have a strong knowledge of it. So, it kind of turned me off
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I've been watching thier launch and they did an awesome job of generating a ton of buzz, (I'm jealous!). But on the service issue, give them some room to wiggle, they got a couple thousand people signed up in a very short time frame and are no doubt bombarded with support tickets.

    But one thing I wanted to throw out there is this:

    There are NO secrets to succeeding with PPC. There are no magic pills, no missing links, no shortcuts to success.

    As stated above, Amit makes several hundred thousand before taxes after paying all his team and ppc expenses. He got to 2.4 million gross revenue by sheer hard work on the part of him and his team. Could anyone do that? No, because most lack the work ethic and follow through to see a business plan like that through. But don't buy any ppc product or service that you think is going to give you the "secret to success". When I started, I searched for that magic pill for a long time. It does not exist. Every huge affiliate I know, (most don't reveal their names or what they do as there are far more "unknowns" doing huge numbers then well known names), got to their level by not giving up and working their asses off. Even the "I work 2 hours per day and then sip drinks on the beach the rest of the day" mindset does nothing but hurt people who are new to ppc. You may get to that point eventually, but it will take at least a year of hard work to do so. That year includes failing miserably several times and questioning if you know what you're doing or if ppc is for you.

    Anyhow, just wanted to throw that out there. Give the guys a break, they're busy and I'm sure they'll get back to you as soon as they can.

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    • Profile picture of the author bjohnsonco
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      But one thing I wanted to throw out there is this:

      There are NO secrets to succeeding with PPC. There are no magic pills, no missing links, no shortcuts to success.
      I do agree, but to the average noob there are a ton of ebooks on PPC and 90% of them are crap. PPC Classroom, although the hype is a bit missleading, has the nessesary information to help in understanding and implementing PPC correctly.

      We all have to start somewhere, like $6 adspend a day to $1,000.

      Crap, thhhhhhhhhhe h key just broke on my keyboard. hhhhhhhhhelp! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    I never called any one an Idiot, get your facts right Tommyp.

    You can't handle the fact that you were wrong, again, most whingers are. Take a pill. I proved you wrong again. Try looking in front of your nose, instead of behind it.

    Your whinging is becoming tiring, I know of 5 yr olds that act more behaved then you. Grow up!
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  • Profile picture of the author Delanda
    I purchased a couple weeks ago for $77. I've now started to go through the information. It's pretty basic information to start, but as it progresses it becomes more detailed. It's a good course for the beginner who is looking to be hand held from the start to the finish of their first PPC campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourseomentor
    I haven't personally seen anything about the PPC Classroom but seems it would be worth the money from the posts above.
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  • Profile picture of the author ellyan
    Do you think so? what are the testimonials. I'd love to know more.

    all my best
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  • Profile picture of the author sannyman
    Ok, here it comes my second part about the issue I've had with PPC Classroom:
    I have to admit that these guys are 100% honest and there is no "dirty trick" behind the cumbersome system. I've posted my claim in the PPC support forum and I got the answer to give additional details, which is acceptable. Once my problem was acknowledged, it was solved in less then 24 hours (for those who haven't seen my first post, I have been billed twice). I have waited until today (with this post) in order to have the proof that the actual money returned into my account.
    The conclusion is that once you get in their system, things are running smooth. And the best of all, they are honest people.
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    • Profile picture of the author sannyman
      One more thing, that I've missed to underline: while Affiliate Classroom's support forum notifies you by email when your ticket got replies, the one at PPC Classroom DOESN'T! So, you may get answers to your questions, but unless you HAVE access / especially look for your ticket's status inside the support forum, you won't know.
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      • Profile picture of the author launch3
        I purchased the PPC Classroom 2.0 membership. Here are my thoughts.

        First, I remember advertising on Goto.com (which then became Overture, now Yahoo!) and had success with my PPC campaigns way back then. But that's when it was so much easier.

        I've been out of PPC for a long time while I built niche authority sites. Now it's time to compliment my sites & expand with PPC advertising.

        I purchased Perry Marshall's AdWords Guide which is absolutely fantastic. However, it is lacking in the affiliate area. So when Perry emailed me and recommended PPC Classroom 2, I purchased it. I must have recieved 10 other 'guru' emails recommending it, but I take Perry's advice. I really wanted some of the bonuses too (6 landing page samples, high-converting ads, power words, keyword tools, etc...).

        I've completed Modules 1-9 and passed each of the quizzes. VERY informative and helpful information. I cannot tell you how many mistakes I either would have made or have already made. This is an excellent course for newbies to intermediate advertisers, so much so that I've even redesigned web pages on my sites that have nothing to do with PPC - and all are converting much better now.

        The course itself, for $77, has been worth the expense based on the education and tools I've downloaded. I am also very impressed with the professional look and feel inside the members area. Definitely not done half-assed.

        The million dollar question is whether I can run a successful campaign based on PPC Classroom.

        I am researching several niches for affiliate products I know convert on my sites (a good head start), and will start testing them on AdWords in the next week or two.

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  • Profile picture of the author Charann Miller
    I bought it, I think it's worth the value.

    Lots of beginner stuff in there but some good advanced stuff too. It's worth the $77 but will have to see if it's worth the $29.95/month plus the $19.95/month for the Niche Detective club I signed up for. Yes there for a whole heap of up sells, but I guess they are just being effective marketers. It's the nature of the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    Thanks Loz,

    I got plenty from version one as well. I thing the basic elements are the key and then building on those with testing and innovation.
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  • Profile picture of the author lassitermarketing
    I am loving it. I followed the plan, redid some campaigns I have for my own products and today I paid .06 a click for clicks I normally pay .70-.85 for. Yay!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      well done.

      And that's just to start, you'll find later that even keywords that people would normally pay around $2-5 or so for can be gotten for less than 50 cents

      Originally Posted by lassitermarketing View Post

      I am loving it. I followed the plan, redid some campaigns I have for my own products and today I paid .06 a click for clicks I normally pay .70-.85 for. Yay!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    I'm not big on PPC, as all the traffic techniques I use are free methods. But Amit's story sounded quite impressive so I decided to check it out. I have to say the $77 for the program is dirt cheap. There's definitely a lot of value in the product, and the bonuses are actually good.

    At the end, I cancelled my membership and got a refund because I was put off by the poor support and lack of service. But I think it's a great product. If I was more into PPC I'd definitely stayed as a member.
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  • Profile picture of the author upnorth
    I made the decision to keep my membership.

    Yes there is a lot of stuff I already knew but I did learn a few imp tricks and I am sure I can still learn a lot from Amit.

    Overall, I am satisfied with this membership.
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  • Profile picture of the author greg_hughes
    We bought it the day it came out.
    If you are new to Affiliate Marketing with Adwords, it an EXCELLENT value. I fyou are an experienced marketer, it's well worth the bonuses alone.

    Anik is a straight-shooter, an honest stand-up guy and can be trusted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt D
    Guys,

    Unless you are really a ppc ppro, this is a great value for the information that is available. If you don't like it then you can always cancel the continuity aspect of it.

    If you've run any ppc, you know that one small minor change can have a HUGE impact on your campaigns. Like I said, you really would have to have been in the adwords game a long time to NOT pick up at least one new technique that could pay for itself many times over.
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  • Profile picture of the author JCWHong
    I'm a member of PPC Classroom, and I have found it to be very useful -- however, I'm completely new to PPC and internet marketing.

    PPC Classroom has 9 modules so far and a bunch of bonus modules.

    They recently opened up the forum, which has been great because now you have somewhere to go and post all of the questions that you have.
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    • Profile picture of the author girliemarketing
      Same here! Very little ppc experience prior to joining. I have found
      it to be of tremendous value!
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  • Profile picture of the author kierenm
    I don't know other people are saying in this thread, but I purchased PPC classroom and it proved to be a real eye opener on doing PPC. I'd recommend it.. especially since it's under 100 bucks. Don't really know about all the upsells though, I got the seminar videos and these turned out to have plenty of valuable information, but I can't see a lot in the niche club or ppc tools. ..it's all just my opinion though.

    Unfortunately for newcomers, I think membership to PPC classroom is currently closed

    oh well, for a similar spin on making affiliate commissions through PPC with even more sweet video tutorials than PPC classroom, I'd recommend you look at realaffiliateincome.com/blueprint It's definitely a stand-out course for me that really delivered- it actually IS a solid blueprint on everything you've gotta do to make a great income, even if you're a beginner.
    .. I think it's going to cost a fair bit more than $97.00 shortly though, which isn't cool! Still probably worth it though oh, and you can get a further $10 discount if you go to the sales page and then close the window.. just sayin',

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  • Profile picture of the author a6footer41
    Hey Guys
    I am a PPC Classroom member who bought the $77 programm then upgrade to the VIP plan for the "HAND HOLDING" as Amit promised, however i am now currently "BANNED FOREVER" really dont know why!
    Sent a message via the contact us link enquireing why and will wait patiently to see if it is resolved with either my money back,me being unbanned or some communication from Amit/Anik or any of the moderators at PPC CLASSROOM...I am a little jaded by this and a few more issue with PPC CLASSROM 2.0, BUT I WILL REMAIN POSITIVE.

    P.S PLZ AMIT & ANIK PLZ LET ME KNOW WHAT'S UP!! your student trying to learn here!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
    Well ... thought I had it resolved. Got a refund and was assured my account was cancelled. Now they've just debited my cc again!!! Sent an email to support but no reply. I now these guys have a good reputation but I'll never buy from them again. Never.

    Tessa
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  • Profile picture of the author TessaRose
    Thanks ... I'm getting a tad impatient, I must admit. 4 days now since I contacted support about this and still no reply. Think it might be time to change my tone

    I'd just advise anyone else who's been reassured that their account was cancelled to keep an eye on their cc statement.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elliott
      I thought I had an issue with the monthly subscriptions involved - The Basic and the Niche Detective, but I found that you can turn these off right on the homepage after you log in, so it was probably my own forgetfulness about the terms that was at fault.

      It is true that the "support" tickets etc seem to be a mess, but I like the site quite a bit. For "ppc noob" like me it seems to be worth every penny of the $77. at least.

      I hope they get the tech & support issues smoothed out, because i think it is a very nice, informative, and worthwhile site.

      Elliott
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      • Profile picture of the author Mary Greene
        After the trial period, PPC Classroom customers who don't pay the monthly continuity will only have access to the $77 basic modules (and whatever add-ons they paid to see). The basic course bonuses and partner bonuses links still appear but lead to deadends. Of course, all the free monthly Niche recommendations disappear. The tools and webinars also disappear.

        My near namesake, Mary Green (without the "e") told me she took full advantage of the Forum and other services. PPC was a high priority on her list, so she gained valuable tips and practice. Support AND strategies are available there. And the original partner bonuses were terrific deals if you actually used them before they disappeared. Of course, the contradicting advice always makes life interesting, too.

        BOTTOM LINE
        PPC Classroom's marketing genius shows up in the partner bonuses with purchase discounts plus short fuses plus the dizzying upsells. With a low entry price and dazzling products vying for attention, nobody will have time to try everything out in the trial period. They'll probably continue the membership and buy from some of the partners. Wouldn't you love to see their conversion numbers from PPC Classroom 1 versus PPC Classroom 2?

        PPC Classrooom's marketing idiocy shows up in the user messages to those who don't renew. Clicking on the Forum link, I read in big letters "You are permanently BANNED from the Forum." or something similar. Maybe I'm just not insecure enough, but the "Don't be a loser" appeal backfires for me. Do they really want customers who spend $77-$497 to feel unwelcome in the future?
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        • Profile picture of the author Gren Bingham
          Well, I tried about 6 times to buy the trial using 2 different card, but with no success. Turns out my cards were fine and the card companies could see their attempts to collect, but they could not quite get it together to collect because of poblems on their end.

          Now the disc has arrived without my seeing any successful card transaction and I am worried about the status of the purchase attempts.

          This is absolutely the most unprofessional transaction I have experienced. It really puts me right off their contents.

          Best regards, Gren.
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    • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
      Originally Posted by TessaRose View Post

      Thanks ... I'm getting a tad impatient, I must admit. 4 days now since I contacted support about this and still no reply. Think it might be time to change my tone

      I'd just advise anyone else who's been reassured that their account was cancelled to keep an eye on their cc statement.

      4 days? That's service for ya..
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  • Profile picture of the author borilbogoev
    Hi,

    I am a current member of PPC Classroom 2.0.

    Yes, I know that they send a lot of "SPAM" trying to make you buy something, but the information on the site is very well structured and very clear. I like it and I am using it daily.

    the first day I used the techniques there I made more than $70 profit from Google AdWords with one single ClickBank offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author ctutt
    I took them up on their $29.00 shipping and handling charge only for a trial. However after I ordered what I thought was going to only cost $29.00 their order entry would not let me out without charging me the total $495.00. Well, that really pissed me off because I had been tricked/deceived! So, I simply clicked off their site thinking since I had not given final authorization to charge my card everything would be ok. NOT..., they shipped me the trial and charged me the $29.00 plus the $495.00! I was so incensed that I reported their fraudulent tactic and cancelled my credit card!
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  • Profile picture of the author gates17
    I have joined the 2.0 classroom and yes I bought the VIP - for one month at $197. Again like said many times before lack of support. I waited 5 days for a response from the VIP Coaches. When I submitted a ticket to cancel the VIP all of a sudden the ticket was erased, and so far no charge to my CC. Yea- all the bonuses are great- and all the PPC Classroom 1.0 Live videos are included. Even got Jeremy's Optomize My Site (OMS) tracker for free.
    Someone mentioned CPA and now everyone is asking what it is on the forum. It was a hit and run, that takes from Amit's method of teaching Adwords. Granted I have learned some stuff, but this forum has as much info.Well my time is up. NEXT?
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  • I'm pleased to say that I secured my membership for a dollar
    Thanks so much for posting that offer by the way
    But now that I'm inside I believe it's even worth the full 77 bucks, it is a great product and goes along really well with commision blueprint I think.
    Where commision blueprint doesn't talk so much about huge keyword lists and actual campaign building I think the PPC classroom fills in the technical stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author khughey
      If you join and want to go thru the initial training ($77 plan), then make sure you don't get used to using the tools that are available on the PPC site (
      * Keyword List Cleaner
      * Google Match Type Tools
      * Key Phrase Multiplier
      * AdWords Ad Writing Tool
      * Typo Generator
      * PPC ROI Calculator
      * Long Tail Keyword Generator
      * Geo Keywords
      )

      because once you decide to not continue on the monthly membership plan you are not allowed to use the tools any more. You are also "Banned" (their words, not mine) from the membership Forum access AND you are not allowed to see/hear any of the past audio/video webinars.

      Marketing note... may want to hire a marketing guy to tweak the user experience, including verbiage. Be nice to your customers, even those that paid a one time $77 and a month or two of the membership (approx $30/mo), because they may do MORE business with you in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jays80
      Originally Posted by George Montagu Brown View Post

      I'm pleased to say that I secured my membership for a dollar
      Thanks so much for posting that offer by the way
      Which offer? Is it still active?
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      • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
        I signed up to be on their notification list for when they reopened. Not a problem, but I don't like the fact that I'm getting e-mails from them with NO info about when they'll reopen. They've been recommended to me by a friend, but after reading all of the info in this thread, I'm a bit hesitant to join at all, even when they DO reopen.

        I was a member of another PPC training site but it didn't work out for me. I'm not bashing anyone, but I concluded that I just don't learn the way the site owner taught.

        Now I'm looking for PPC training -- AGAIN. I really want to learn PPC and I have Perry Marshall's guide. But PPC is more complex than it appears on the surface and I don't feel comfortable trying to do PPC without training/guidance along the way. (I find PPC complex enough that I don't feel comfortable just reading a book/guide and trying it out on my own.)

        Does anybody know of PPC training for beginning/intermediate PPC marketers? I'd love some recommendations!

        And please don't recommend PPC Classroom. I'm already aware of them but am not willing to wait for them to reopen at some future unknown date. I'm tired of waiting.

        Thanks,
        Michelle
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  • Profile picture of the author faakhatri
    Hello,

    The price is very cheap for the content but the customer service and the site structure was awful.

    If you know about Adwords and PPC then it is good otherwise waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinAtStickyBids
    I have purchased many products, and by far..this is the best product I have found. The training is detailed and helpful. I have gone through more online products than I care to admit. But I finally found something that I'm very happy with, and I can't complain about PPC Classroom at all.
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