Mobile Monopoly

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There is a lot of buzz about the launch of this new product on August 3. Some pre-launch videos are circulating and affiliates are sending rave emails to their lists about it.

Has anyone here beta-tested this?

I think it would be interesting to have your comments, what you think and what it's really worth. Is this going to be as big as this fellow Adam pretends?

Thank you very much in advance.
#internet marketing product reviews & ratings #mobile #monopoly
  • Well, Admob has been acquired by Google (That sucks!!!) which tells you that mobile advertising is something definitely worth looking into.
  • I'm wondering that myself. I watch the videos and it sounds interesting.

    Although I'm one of those people who try's really hard not to give out my cell phone number for the exact reason Adam is pitching. It's bad enough that we occasionally receive tel-marketing calls. I'm just not sure I want a random advertisement being sent to my cell phone or how many people really would welcome a random advertisement sent to their phone.

    Maybe a better investment would be to develop a spam filter for cell phones...
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    • It actually revolves around building an email list using mobile marketing.

      I have a review copy that I'm going over today before I promote it to my customers. It looks good so far.

      I'll let you all know what I think of it later today after I have time to finish out the training.
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    • I agree with you. The constant little bleeps, bings, tunes, and ads on a cell phone would drive me crazy. I would be hardpressed to actually sign up or sign in. I don't like giving out my number either but found out the hard way that if you do, get ready for DELUGE of telemarketers.. calling & calling and calling. Then you start to get the text messages..It is unbelievable The spam filter for cell phones sounds like a winner to me
  • I just attended a webinar on this course yesterday. They showed how to setup a mobile campaign and also gave an overview of the course.

    I thought the replay will help some warriors here:

    Mobile Monopoly Campaigns Setup Webinar Replay

    -JW
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  • This course is sick!

    I know Adam personally, and he's really a great guy.

    He also helped me set up a campaign that's made 25 sales over the past 4 days, awesome stuff
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    • Same question to you as I asked Danny above -- would you care to show proof with matching date ranges, and proof of exact products sold?

      I think a lot of people in here would be interested..

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    • What we always want to know is what was the cost and what was the profit. It's a pet peeve of quite a few warriors including me that guys like Adam talk a lot in sales videos and letters about the money they make without ever hinting that there may have been a big difference between gross and profit.

      So the relevant information on your campaign is how much was your net profit on those 25 sales, and also how much time you spent setting it up, and do you think you would have been able to do it without his personal help (since most of us won't have that advantage). Also, was that your only campaign, or did it take 10 tries to get one to pay out?

      I don't mean to be contrary-I'm impressed, but just want to know as much solid info as possible before I decide to take the plunge.
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    • Hey Alex,

      Did you see the post asking you to provide some data and proof showing that the campaign you mentioned had the sales you stated?

      I strongly urge you to do so. It will help all of us and you especially, believe me.

      Ralph, Believer in Accountability Enforcement
  • I bought it and will be going through it and setting some campaigns up this week. I'm glad
    to see the positive reviews here. I think the main concern for most is not to stick your
    neck out too far with the campaigns until you have tested them yourself.

    I'm not crazy about getting any ads on my cell either but I'm sure it is the wave of our
    future and I don't want to be left behind!

    I'll come back after I see results (hopefully they will be positive).

    Cheers!
    Sally
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    • Keep us updated with your results...i'm really interested abt this...
      thanx
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  • My only concern about this course is if it is similar to "Cell Phone Cash" that was released last year that no one could seem to make money with.

    Everyone was using admob at that time and burned through some cash with no positive results, even sending them to a opt-in type page.

    So why would this be any different? If they couldn't make it work then why would it be any different today?

    It all sounds good in theory but if you can't make a good ROI then why waste your money?

    TedK
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    • There is always the possibility of requesting a full refund within a certain time period if you are not satisfied with the product especially when it goes through Clickbank.

    • Ted - I certainly have the same concerns, however, it appears there are several issues Adam has worked out and he does appear to be having success with it. Also, he's paying like 1 - 4 pennies a click, so, it seems the "money you would burn through" would be very low - less than $100.

      At $77, it appears to be fairly priced to me. I think I'll hold off a few weeks and see how some of you folks do with it, but I may change my mind.

      Kent
  • My concern is this. yes the clicks may be very cheap right now. However, from the looks of things, this is going to be a very well received product and lots of people will be buying it and using it. The more that use the AdMob platform, the higher the clicks will cost. Pretty much like what happened to Adwords a few years ago.
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    • Good point, but isn't it a huge market? I think a lot of people got rich from cheap adwords campaigns before the prices climbed to the point where it was tough to get a decent ROI. It seems to me if you get in front of a trend like the recent shift to mobile browsing, you can make a lot of dough before saturation sets in.

      If anything, your concern would probably just push me in the direction of getting in asap rather than waiting, but I'm guessing there will be a lot of money in the mobile market for at least the next 5 years before it gets tougher, and even then, probably there will be money in it for those that continue to optimize their campaigns-just as lots of marketers still make great incomes with adwords and email marketing, as saturated as it is.

      One other reason saturation shouldn't be a big problem for a while is that the number of mobile surfers increases all the time-lots of people still don't even have their I-phone or equivalent yet (including me. Also, the ones that have had them only a year or less are probably still getting used to shifting some of their surfing to mobile.
    • It's a logical point, however the truth of it is, these networks have HUGE amounts of traffic available, which is awesome for all of us
  • After watching video number 2 in the lead up to product launch I set up a "weightloss" campaign exactly as Adam showed on screen. The results were this:
    Campaign setup 29/7/10 to present 3/8/10
    Page impressions 80,459
    Clicks 356
    CTR 0.44%
    subscribers to list 11
    Cost $52.40
    CPC $0.15
    ROI so far $0.00

    The very cheap clicks ie $0.03 are only available if the campaign is run on an open demograhic. ie anyone in the world who has a pulse and a mobile phone. The more targeted campaigns tend to be around the $0.15 mark. I posted my results in the comments section of the pre launch video but they weren't approved by the moderator for some reason! Lol. I was only trying to give my honest real life results.

    I still think it's an exciting concept though and am gonna try some more ads.

    PS I think the $67 per month upsell for "Beastmobi" is steep.
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    • That's my point... I went through this with cell phone cash. The cost per click was higher the more targeted the demographics were.

      And with most campaigns you want targeted traffic not general traffic that has very little chance to convert.

      So if you were "copying and pasting" the exact same campaign the why aren't you getting the same results? Were you able to question Adam about his yet?

      Until I see some more positive results I'm staying on the side line and waiting for additional feedback.

      TedK


    • I did exactly the same thing... after watching vid 2 I also set up a healthad campaign (admob) to generate leads for a mailing list (exactly as Adam mentions). It started great but has bombed a bit for me as my impressions have stopped dead in its tracks and all admob says is increase your bid or remove your demographics to target more people (more like just throw more money at us)... my stats are not nearly as good as your's. But at least now I know why, it is because my CPC/bid is set to low. If I push up my bids however then this campaign will not be profitable unless I can greatly improve my CTR.

      Page impressions 17,459
      Clicks 55
      CTR 0.31%
      subscribers to list 4
      Cost $3.70
      CPC $0.07
      ROI so far $2.70

      Adam mentions these cheap clicks but as I have learnt in the past (google adwords,facebook ads) this is not the case when targeting the demographics as he mentions. Sure it is cheaper than other platforms asking bids but 0.01 or 0.04 cent clicks gets no impressions...

      I am sure he would not publish your comments as it would raise to many flags/questions/doubt just before his launch. He also never published a question I had about campaign optimization I had running...

      I see there are 3 further upsells (which I hate when people do that) once you purchase, what are they exactly and do you need them to make any of the processes work?

      Oh and on another note, I managed to get a pdf of his top campigns that we can use right away. Exact ad copy and campigns etc... , one problem, the ad copy text would never fit into the admobs advertising space ( to many characters) so how can these be the exact campaigns he is running...:confused: unless it is not on admob as he says??
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    • @Alice,

      I agree with you about the $67 per month Upsell to Beastmobi. There are a few less expensive alternatives to setting up your mobile sites. If any one needs some resources then just PM me.


  • I've lost a lot with Cell Phone Marketing Strategies, maybe I'm doing something wrong. However, this Course looks promising, I'll dig in and update on what I think.
  • Can these methods be applied locally? Ie in other non-US countries such as Australia?
    I am not sure I can GEO say the Melbourne or Sydney areas for my clients.
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    • HI All,

      Great - finally the right info on mobile marketing (I assume)

      I just brought Adams course because I have been on a same journey learning how to achieve success over the past 12 months. My focus has not been so much building lists but on simple CPA success and with the target of $100 a day.

      ... which is now achievable with Mobile CPA's on the scene. I have a new video my blog showing you some recent success, and I might create free guide on how to do it step by step - make $100 a day as a starting point to help out.

      This is so simple you don't need to buy a course like Adam's, but if you want more advanced material and you are going to go more full-time with this buy Adam's course! (I will update you more after I review more of his material, and update my blog).

      It all started for me after buying Mack's Cell Phone Cash course, and I became one of the main posters on the forum here - trying to help out and showing my test pages and results. There were a bunch of others trying to make it work (I would not recommend you buy Mack's course).

      Adam seems to be on to it, it will work IF you get started and apply it, he has managed to pull it all together really well from what I can see but end of the day folks it is not the hard to achieve.

      I have spent time creating my own mobile optimised pages and in one case had the Affiliate/CPA allow me to connect direct to their database - but NOW we have Mobile CPA's which give you all the creatives and landing pages if you are buying media.

      I now communicate daily with the owners of the CPA's and Media networks, and will record some interviews with them soon on the blog.

      Happy to help - just check out my blog if you want to stay connected.

      Danny

      PS. I also went for his beastmobi product but only the 7 day period so I can have a good look at it, but there are ways to get optimised pages up for free.
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    • Hi aclacy, to answer - yes you can do this it depends which mobile advertising company you use. Jumptap are more US focused, Admob should work ok for you.

      Danny
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    • I was thinking... How can we target markets in the E.U.? France, Gemany, Italy?...

      How do we hit foreign markets outside of our own geographical zone? We can also do this in other languages than English?

      Please enlighten me...
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    • Hi,
      I bought the course. Yes these strategies can most definately be applied to countries other that the U.S. One company is based in Europe. You can drill down to just about any place in the world for your target market. Maureen
  • Danny,

    Just sent you a PM

    Thanks,

    TedK
  • Again its a product promoted based purely on revenue without any reference to expenditure! It does look tempting but we need to see the spend for that return!
  • That isn't gonna happen though is it? How many product developers ever come in here giving full and transparent disclosure of cost to return ratio?
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    • I think you have to put this in the right perspective with any course you buy to get anywhere on the net you have some money too put into it so you can make $$$ back, and look at it as a long term project as you learn you get better it will cost less.

      In the 2nd promo video it was mentioned that it would be about $50 a day to make any money and get good leads ( 20K) I think !! anyway if you don't jump off the fence how will you know, BTW I bought the course today and I find the program very well done and if you just do some of the stuff that is laid out you will make money.

      Just my 2 cents

      Cheers Jase
  • Danny, sent you pm, thanks...
  • Well, I bought it the other night after a webinar but am unable to get in. When I try to log in and click on forgot my password when it doesn't let me in it says that my email isn't registered.

    I've emailed support twice with no response so if I don't hear anything soon I guess I'll just go for the refund!

    It looked like a good way to build lists in various niches and he showed how he followed up with related offers which seems like where the money was made since he admits that the conversions of buying off cells is very low.

    I'll give it a try if I ever get in!

    Best of luck to everyone!
    Sally
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    • Sallcev

      I had a problem to login but I emailed support at mobilemonopoly dot com and I received reply in 15 hours or so.

      Try again and you should be able to resolve this. Sometimes after launch they get swamped with opened tickets, etc.,

      Good luck...
    • Hi Everyone.
      I bought Mobile Monopoly for review purposes.
      My take on it after going through the course is this.

      Adwords started out as a cheap traffic source. Now out of most peoples reach.
      Facebook advertising is going through the same transition. I had some good results with Facebook using CPA offers. The bids i was having to make were increasing daily.
      If you get into Mobile Marketing now you will make money for about the next 3-6 months. Then your ROI will not be worth it.
      As for list building, proof is needed.

      Put it this way Adam will make more money and build a bigger list from product creation than he will from Mobile marketing.
      If it's that good why share it.

      Pete
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  • Not good so far,like he says in the video ,sign ups will be coming fast,dont think so.2 days now ,no clicks, and only,114 impr,at lest i thought i would get sign ups and no cpa $,but no sign ups as well. my adds are spot on,all is well my end,but not working,
    even if i had 2000 clicks of the bat,and no sign ups at least i might say that's down to me. really disappointed, i thought this might get the traffic, like he says,
    will keep going and let you no how it gos.

    kev
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  • Hey Everyone,

    I purchased MM and I loving
    it so far.

    I have a quick question for others
    that purchased it.

    Those of you who also purchased BEASTMOBI
    from Adam how do you access it?

    I can't find it in the MM back office anywhere.

    I look forward to everyone's response.

    I will also post my results with the course
    as I get my ads out there.

    Best Wishes,

    James D'Alesandro
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    • Right there with you, James. I can't think of what was written there right after purchase, but it said something about being important that I set up my Beastmobi account right then, so I did, and it loaded lots of videos. I'm usually more careful and check to see if I got an email, but it was Very late and I was totally tired. Besides that there was some link there that said you could click there to get back to the main account/area. Kinda thought that would be vice versa.
      When I search my Gmail for Beastmobi all it brings up is the Clickbank receipt. Be sure you copy the link to Beastmobi for your records. Will have to put in a support ticket, I guess.

      I was reading in here last night before purchase, and barely half the posts were here; wish they had been. One of the things I was wondering was what the one time offers were.

      I can't believe I missed this text, Alice: "PS I think the $67 per month upsell for "Beastmobi" is steep."

      I was thoroughly irritated with the OTO because we were so sure that he had said he would be hosting the pages, in the second launch video. Also in that video the pages look really good, but that's not the case with what is shown as a comparison in the OTO for Beastmobi.
      So, what do you do? You buy it. Because of the scarcity tactic he used in video 3...the intention here was to just buy it, and let it sit a couple of weeks because of being otherwise engaged, but there was the OTO.
      Do be advised that the offer is still available in the member's area, so you can sign up for that in your own sweet time, at the same price.

      I have always steered clear of these paid advertising methods, but he makes it look so foolproof, with maybe a 50 to 150 loss?
      dannynz, I signed up for your list, and I hope you come through with that help because I think I'll need it.
      Kent, read what I said about the scarcity.

      BTW, that tool is still in the member's area, and it still says this underneath it:
      Disclaimer:
      Mobile Monopoly is not responsible should this website hosted software function incorrectly and you use it at your own risk.
      Please note that should the Mobile Monopoly server not function correctly, you may lose your hosted landing pages which could effect your advertising campaigns.
      Therefore, Mobile Monopoly will not be held responsible for any financial or other losses incurred, for any reason whatsoever, when using this website.
    • You sould of got a email with your link.try this BeastMobi Admin - Login
  • I set up the campaign exactly as shown in the second video and after 24 hours had one click at four cents. Results not anywhere as shown in the video.
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    • exactly, in the proof of income video he shows how many subscribers that he is gettng through aweber and how much money he makes through clickbank but he could be getting these subscribers through other forms of traffic,no where does he show that he got this traffic through advertising on the mobile ad networks.

      When he logged into his admob account he had no campaigns running at all over a 7 days period.
  • So here is a quick update and then I'm off to my bed.

    Danny spent a good hour with me today walking me through how he goes about setting up his test campaigns and does his geo targeted research.

    I've now setup 1 test campaign in AdMob and it's awaiting approval. It took me all of 15 minutes to setup that first campaign.

    I plan to setup another 5 to 10 before the weekend and see how they do once they've been approved.

    I would suggest that anyone who wants to do mobile marketing should have a budget of at least $50 because that's the minimum that AdMob requires for the daily budget to run your campaign.

    I've also learned of several other Mobile Advertising Networks through Danny. I'm eager to test them as well once I have results from my AdMob campaigns. Apparently the CPC for some of the other Mobile networks is cheaper than AdMob.

    Anyway, that's all for now folks. Keep on truckin' or trollin' or earnin'. Whatever you do, just have fun.

    Dion

    P.S. I haven't logged into my AdMob account in literally more than 6 months. When I logged in today I had to accept their updated terms and also provide more personal information, go figure. I'm no stranger to CPA, but Mobile CPA is relatively new to me and if I can setup a campaign in 15 minutes then any person that is new can do it.

    P.P.S. Thanks again Danny for sticking to it even after the terrible results from Mack's training. I really appreciate your time and willingness to assist me in cracking the code to mobile marketing.
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    • Yeah Danny,

      I think a forum would really be beneficial for all of us.
      At least we will be able to share and exchange info.
      Whether you are new or experienced with IM, I think we have to be cautious with mobile marketing. Mobile adv sources like AdMob (owned by Google) can siphon your budget real quick. Besides they seem to be getting all the play now. So with a forum we can give feedback and help each other.
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  • MODERATOR

    The guy clearly stated his relationship with Danny at the top of his first post. So I think the 'shilling' charge is a bit unfair.

    But let nobody be in any doubt that Ken and I are watching this thread like hawks ;-)

    Pearson
  • Here's an update on my 2 campaigns so far (I'm still awaiting approval from Admob on another 3)

    Weight Loss campaign set up 29 July squeeze page in Aweber offering free weight loss report in return for email submit then sending to Peerfly $500 Walmart offer:
    Impressions 88,155
    Clicks 381 CTR 0.43%
    Cost $56.15 CPC $0.15
    Sign ups for CPA offer 2 @ $1.20 = $2.40
    Subscribers 12

    Second campaign was one of the "proven" ones given after product purchase 3 Aug:
    Miracet stop smoking aid, sent direct to CPA offer @ Peerfly:
    Impressions: 98,439
    Clicks 149 CTR 0.15%
    Cost $23.84 CPC $0.16
    Sign ups for CPA offer 0

    NB: When I set this "proven" campaign up there were no CPC or CTR stats at Peerfly. I asked my contact why and he said "because no one has run it yet"! Hmmmm?????

    I do appreciate that there is an amount of trial and error here. However, I imagine the product is purchased on the basis that the trial and error for the "proven campaigns" has already been done.
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  • Well I've bought it, but like a couple of others here I can't log in. Very frustrating!

    Patience is everything!?
  • This product is ranked #1 on Clickbank right now, after a few days. Adam Horwitz is awesome. The gravity increase rapidly.
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    • (Adam Horwitz is awesome)

      Until Evey one wants a refund.

      The more i look at this, i dont think this is how to build a list, and this was how it was being sold. people may opt in to get something for Free,but when they get home i think most will opt out, dont for get they are not looking for your add,unlike online when people are searching for something, i think the only way
      this will work would be to send them straight to a CPA offer.

      So far i have had only 2 clicks and 227 imp

      I could up the Min Bid just to P-SS it all away, but i think i will change the add?

      Kev
    • Awesome at what?
  • Just got the course yesterday. Put together a few campaigns and will let you all know my results.
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    • The Guru's are pushing this mobile thing hard. They are good at giving you numbers, but can never really qualify them in any way. They also think that giving you simple copy and paste campaigns are going to make you rich over night. Mobile marketing is not a get rich quick scheme in any way. It requires a considerable investment, testing, tracking, and patience.

      I actually bought a course on mobile marketing a couple months ago and gave this a try with $1000 budget. I had to rotate multiple CPA offers, and lost quite a bit of money, but managed to break even with a couple of campaigns. You have to be willing to really make this work, and be ready to lose your shirt before you start making any money with this strategy. Treat it as a business like anything else. Not a get rich quick scheme...

      If you think you have what it takes, then good luck to you. I really do hope you can get it to work for you. Otherwize I'd recommend sticking to proven strategies for list building and making money online.

      Cheers.
  • I purchased this 2 days ago, along with the upsells.. But, after watching the 7 proven campaigns, it seems like a lot of this is being winged on the fly. I mean, couldn't he have found a smoking offer that didn't show you needed to get approved..like maybe re record the video so it doesn't look so obvious that he has never actually run the campaign. . Rather, this is one of his proven campaigns, yet he is not even approved for the offer yet in his own account. So, I have yet to implement his proven offers, but I think I may just get a refund, atleast for the proven campaigns, but the main course seems like ok theory. It's just that, when you are selling your 7 proven campaigns( I'm not the copy and paste type really, just curious as to what works like anyone else would be.), It would be nice if he could detail the campaign like...as you can see here on july 28 I had 700 clicks for a total of $27 dollars, but you will also notice that I sold 2 smoking cpa products on the same day for 39 a pop... end guru impersonation. I honestly can't believe he can just say here is an offer, here is the adtext, oh dangit, I'm not approved yet for this offer, why did I choose this offer again on live video, after all I told them this was a proven money maker, oh what the heck, let's just throw it in and hope nobody sees. Atleast give us some data... He doesn't even show proof the campaign was ever running..

    Basically, I think it was an eye opening course, BUT, I don't think there are very many people that will be able to make a lot of money following his campaigns. And if his upsell of "proven campaigns" is built on theory(not positive, but it sure seems like some of them were), then I'm sure the main course....

    The good thing is, you learn about the ad networks and the cpa networks for mobiles. If you're interested, and have a lot of effort, then it might work, but I think for now, I'll stick with marketing to people actually on their computers for the most part.
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  • I just saw on clickbank that mobile monopoly is currently #1 product there with a gravity of 634. Must be having great sales. To me at least the concept is most unique otherwise all the new products that are being launched these days are all old stuff. I am really enjoying this course and going to make some campaigns very soon.
  • Pay per call offers are all I've found/heard of working with mobile (except the odd normal CPA campaign).

    ...And those are usually run in house since there are still only a few real mobile advertising platforms and affiliates really aren't needed.

    But I haven't bought the course, maybe the proven campaigns work very well.
  • ConcordeWarrior, I replied to your pm, but it went poof since I don't have enough posts. Someone else here in the WF had this link: BeastMobi Admin - Login
    Sorry, I forgot who but bless their heart - I know it helped me.
  • In pre launch ,i saw 2 video and implemented as he said ,This is result
    Page impressions 713
    Clicks 4
    CTR 0.56%
    subscribers to list 0
    Cost $0.34
    CPC $0.07
    ROI so far $0.0

    May be i need to increase my bid .

    I started a different campaign promoting clickbank product on IPad .Here are is my result :
    Page impressions 11,958
    Clicks 23
    CTR 0.19%
    Cost $1.93
    AVG CPC $0.08
    ROI so far $33.00 (in one sale).

    That one sale came in first 5-7 clicks .
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    • And you have an affiliate offer to it in your signature? I don't think so!
  • I had a chance to go through the course and its very clear that he does not walk the talk...

    The CPA accounts that he shows have little or no money in them and his mobile ad network accounts have almost no stats...if he was really making the income he claimed, why would he not show his actual campaign results? (especially when he's giving away those campaigns as bonuses claiming that these campaigns have made him a lot of money)...

    As @Culvers points out, 99% of the course is just a walkthrough of ad networks, mobile networks and his software...no mention of tactics, strategies, targeting, optimization etc

    The bonus campaigns are a joke - he randomly picks up campaigns, then sets it up on admob and abruptly ends the video saying - 'run this campaign and I promise you that will make crazy amounts of money'.

    If only marketing was as simple as randomly blasting out offers and making money from them, every marketer would be a millionaire...

    Overall, I was extremely unimpressed with the course....its very clear that the course was made to capitalize on the hot interest in this niche, and not created based on personal experience...

    You'd get 100 times more information by watching the free webinars put out by the OfferMobi guys than from this info product...
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    • I have learnt a huge amount from this course. Sure there is a lot of basic information covered...but he is trying to cater for all types of marketers. You learn alternative methods of sourcing CPA networks. How to write your own apps, or outsource it if you want. How you can get out there to the local business market with another source of advertising that is no obvious to the local businessman and so much more.
      I think it was really worth the $77...he has over delivered in information, I'm glad I bought it and have a better understanding of Mobile Marketing because of this course.
      I've had success with my first mobile marketing campaign and now have and additional 135 subsribers to my anti aging niche to onsell further products thanks to Mobile Monopoly.
      I highly recommend it.
  • In addition to the usual paid traffic methods I have done mobile marketing for almost 2 years, which is about 18 months longer than the product creator ( though after looking at the product I seriously doubt he has ever really done any ) I had so many people mention this thing to me during the week, that i just had to check it out.

    I don't really need to do a long post on the product now, as to be fair Martin Brok has pretty much nailed it, you can read it here http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ly-review.html

    I do however have some points I would like to highlight in addition to what Martin wrote.

    No mention or examples of using google adwords mobile ads . Google does own admob now, but the platforms are still very different.You can still do mobile ads on google search. and of course other ads via the google display network, just set up seperate campaigns for mobile only within the adwords account. I guess he's " killing it " so much he didn't need to access the google traffic or show the people buying his course about using google for mobile ?

    I don't mind sharing that I do click to call via google adwords for mobile. I use it to promote finance related offers, and it is profitable, but not huge traffic volumes. A google mobile ad gives them 2 choices in the ad, either click and call the number, which obviously with a phone in their hand is easy, or click to visit the website, which in this case is optimised for a mobile visitor.

    Want to make your sites suitable for mobile, or build an offer ? Then use wordpress, and optimise it for mobile WordPress › WordPress Mobile Pack WordPress Plugins

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    No examples of split testing. I can tell you that different networks, and different devices will give you different results and different bid prices. You may find that conversions on a squeeze page for an ad that targets iphone users only will perform better than a standard phone.

    Let me take one example from this thread.

    Alice Ayres comment at #83
    Weight Loss campaign set up 29 July squeeze page in Aweber offering free weight loss report in return for email submit then sending to Peerfly $500 Walmart offer:
    Impressions 88,155
    Clicks 381 CTR 0.43%
    Cost $56.15 CPC $0.15
    Sign ups for CPA offer 2 @ $1.20 = $2.40
    Subscribers 12

    Alice, the first thing here is if you paid 15 cents on admob, then I expect you chose the most broad setting. 15 cents is the usual default bid price.

    If you had done device targeting you may find all 12 of those subs came from an iphone or a blackberry ? and you wasted money on other other clicks from other phones. On the other hand you may just have a bad page, because I would have expected around 40 subscribers even via mobile for that if it was targeted and the page optimised.

    It does not matter what traffic method is used to get a subscriber, once you have them, the process for selling is the same, and if you punt crap to subscriber via email, they won't be anymore likely to buy from you just because they signed up via a mobile. As the great John Caples said " Times change. People don't " If you reach your customer through mobile, they are still the same, with the same needs and wants.

    Though this is not the place to go deeper into it, I will also tell you that sending your subscribers to other companies email submits is not a viable business model.


    Cheap Traffic- Let me make this one clear. If you are targeting North America and Europe, 1 cent and 3 cent bids do not exist on the main networks that have the traffic. Cheap traffic in relation to other markets ? YES, for example taking the details I showed above, Try getting 381 clicks on google for weight loss at an avg of 15 cents. It is about knowing your market and what the costs in that market are on other platforms. Insurance as a keyword on mobile is cheap compared to buying it on google . (REMOVED... PERSONAL ATTACK )



    I won't beat about the bush here, In my view and with experience in this marketplace, the front end marketing of this course is set up to deliberately mislead the customer by implying that the process is easy and fast .Big generalisations about making " big money "

    quote " Going Mobile will turn into the fastest most effortless money you have ever made "

    It is the classic clickbank sales page, post up a bunch of screen shots, get a couple of your buddies to vouch how great it is ( MOD NOTE: PERSONAL COMMENT REMOVED. yes this product is " sick" but not the hip way you mean ) , and you are good to go.

    even the number he quotes for his aweber subscriptions includes the unsubcribes, which would mean his one big list is 17327 not 22, 312, (MOD NOTE: This line was removed due to personal attack) If he can't quote an accurate number based on a screen grab we can all see, how much credit you want to give the rest of his story ?


    Save your money, because this won't deliver the the mobile marketing holy grail.

    Mobile marketing is growing, and you can make money with it, but just like any other traffic source, be that facebook plenty of fish, or even the mighty Goog, if you have no clue about marketing , if you don't know who your target customer is, then you will not get good results. Spend some time and money on understanding marketing first.

    Sorry people, it has been said many times, but there is no magic button in this game,... MOD NOTE: PERSONAL ATTACK REMOVED

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    Just so we are clear. I have no agenda here, there is NO marketing in my sig, and I don't sell I.M stuff. This is just my opinion based on this product.
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    • If you were not a man I would ask for your hand in marriage.

  • @KevScarb: Could you share what kind of results you're getting with your marketing efforts, especially with pay-per-call via mobile ads?

    @dannynz: I signed up for your newsletter/blog, but I didn't see any mention of a mastermind group. Could you please post more details about the mastermind? Also, could you share more details about your success with CPA offers over mobile?

    Thanks guys for your input.
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    • Hi - appreciate your interest and you are asking the right questions, but this thread is not here to cover what you are asking, it is meant to be about Adam's course.

      It proves again how we need a place to share all this stuff, MOD NOTE: THIS LINE REMOVED. CONFINE COMMENTS TO THE PRODUCT.

      The mastermind group is new which is why it is not on my blog as yet and is a closed group to keep the numbers manageable - you have to email me about it, I can not discuss it here really.

      Hope that helps?

      Danny
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  • @buyitpc,

    I'm not sure what Danny said but my guess is what he was trying to say is before you run a campaign you should do some demographic research. Let me give you an example as I understand it.

    Let's say I was testing a campaign for "text dating" in a particular country. I'll use Canada for this example. I would have to figure out who the target market is for that offer and target them specifically before running my campaign otherwise I run the risk of losing money very quickly.

    The cool thing that I've learned about mobile marketing (from networking/masterminding with another WF member) is that you can get really specific with your targeting even down to the model of phone being used.

    Here's what I would do to launch a mobile campaign:

    1) Take the domain for the campaign and plug that into Quantcast and Google Ad planner to get the best demographics and age range.

    Note: if there is no data on the domain, I do a search in Google for the campaign domain and plug in the number 1 competitor that shows up in the results and just move down the list until data shows up.

    2) Look at the primary phone for Canada (can be found in the campaign planner of your mobile cpa network) which happens to be Blackberry (RIM).

    3) Look at the primary channel for Canada which happens to be lifestyle. <-- we care a lot about lifestyle up here.

    4) Launch my campaign targeting the best age range I've found for the website, country, channel, phone carrier and phone model.

    5) Split test to see how text ads convert compared to banner ads.

    The networks even recommend what price to bid at so much of the guessing has been removed.

    I am by no means an expert. I am still testing things out for myself but this is the process I use for the successful cpa campaigns I'm running through PPC and CPV so I'm pretty convinced this process will work for mobile as well.

    Anyway, I hope that helps and I didn't get too technical for you. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

    Cheers.

    P.S. FYI let's stick to the topic and keeps things about reviewing the course. Feel free to send me a PM if it's not review related.
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    • Some observations.

      1. good luck trying to find 5 or cent clicks for US market campaigns - ain't gonna happen. You won't get any impressions to speak of let alone the chance of any clicks. 16 to 20 cent is more realistic.
      2. Here is an example of a campaign, taken "as is" from his list of "proven campaigns"

      stop smoking - cpa:

      $0.16 clicks
      195,108 impressions
      261 clicks
      CTR 0.13%
      $41.75 spent
      zero conversions.
      result - $41.75 loss.

      I think people like Danny, on here, have more of an idea --- just my ten cents worth (pun intended).
    • thanks Dion - great post (I wonder who taught you some of this stuff ), yes you must, critical do all the research for the area you are targeting. I use a specific tool I can not go into on this thread.

      Adam's course doesn't cover all this really, but end of the day folks you should only use a mobile CPA offers on WAP phones not Iphones, and pick parts of the world where the clicks are cheap enough to achieve a win ratio ... ie profit, simple really. Don't try to be to complicated when trying to make money with mobile marketing.

      Thanks Merlinthecat for your results/feedback. I am know we are trying to get better results for you now, but the way Adam's campaign is set up with the CPA page not optimised for just the iphone - it is not going to work from my experience.

      Danny
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  • I need a review copy of Mobile Monopoly for my blog etc.. Can anyone PM me who has one please. Thanks, Rich.
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    • You mean you want free access to the training via login? I hope you are not an affiliate marketing it ... as I assume you have read this thread and the bad reviews here it has received?

      Danny
  • I was one of the people who brought Cell Phone Cash. I ended up wasting $187 on admob with 0 sales.

    Anyway, looking at your guys feedback, I am going to give another shot to this
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    • Since this is a Clilckbank product, did you try doing an automated refund through Clickbank directly?
    • Terry, just go to clickbank. They will take care of it for you.
  • google for "clickbank refund" and you´ll find how to do it. it is totally automated but a little bit hidden.

    Although this should have had a huge "REFUND ME NOW!" Button spammed over the net.
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    I don't suppose anybody would like to make a little video about how to get a refund from Clickbank? This comes up so frequently in this forum.

    Pearson
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    • 1) Open your receipt email from CB
      2) Scroll down to the very bottom
      3) Click the link under "Customer Service"
      4) Click on "request support" on the upper left corner (could be named something similar, as I have a german frontend)
      5) select "more options..." from the pulldown menu
      6) select "refund" and a "reason" from the pulldown menu
      7) sent it to cb
  • On Clickbank home page there's an icon at the very top "order help" click that.
    A box appears "Order Lookup" enter Clickbank order number and one of either "email address" "last 4 digits of credit card number" or "Paypal Transaction ID"
    Click Submit.

    An "Order Detail Box" will appear. In the top left click "Get Support"
    Another box will appear "What problem are you having?"
    In the drop down box there's a list of options, click "more options" at the bottom.
    Then a box appears with "refund request" in the middle with a radio button to check.
    List reason for refund from drop down box, then click submit.

    You should then receive an email saying that your request is being dealt with.

    The problem with Mobile Monopoly is that the payment for the product wasn't taken from the normal Clickbank page. In the video promo Adam promises a refund but states it has to be done by just "shooting him an email"

    I hope this helps.
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  • while on mobile marketing myself i have seen Admoda - Mobile Advertising offering really good CPC. still cpc as low as $0.01 worth looking into them.

    PS. Taken from Adam`s JV Blog http://mobilemonopoly.com/jvblog/

    "Competition is still really crazy and sales just keep coming in! Our gravity is over 700 and is working it’s way to the 1,000 mark which will be, from what I hear, a Clickbank RECORD for highest gravity ever! Just 300 away… We can do it guys!

    We now have over 12,000 sales and it’s growing faster each and every day! "
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    • Insane traffic with mobile
      Questionable reviews
      Product gravity over 1000, with over $1million in sales
      What is the real opportunity?
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  • I was going to put out an honest review for it thats why i wanted a copy to check over first but by the sounds of it from all the negative stuff doesnt sound like a good idea.
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    • Well, I knew the usual CB promoters will promote this to their lists, but what really surprised me was getting Jason Moffatt's email regarding this. I like Jason and I read almost every single email he sends out. He probably regrets sending it now, but I know how it works so I don't blame him and didn't unsubscribe, just was surprised. That should tell you that the REAL money is being made selling this stuff and not doing it Although there are a few of us that make more from marketing than from selling products
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    Fair play to Adam seeing the opportunity in the market...it's just a pity he didn't just walk his talk a little bit as from a marketing perspecitive with his lauch video's...it's a snazzy process
  • I don't see the point in having two threads on this. So please use

    http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post2464682


    Thanks.

    Pearson
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