Mobile monopoly review

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UPDATE (Aug. 20): In an attempt to shed more light on the concerns about this product, I have contacted around 8 well-known people (big/medium gurus) who promoted this - 6 people replied so far.

If one had hoped to receive well-thought out reasons for promoting this product, one would be very disappointed. So far the replies can be summarized like this:

- It looked like a good introduction to mobile marketing

- We have a good relation with the author

- I am deeply sorry for promoting this product! (1 person only)

- The warrior forum is negative!

The responses are generally generic and with no real attempt to address the valid concerns that I and many other people have raised. No substance has been brought to the table in defense of this product. One person did offer to retract the endorsement, and apologize to his list for sending this out, but did not come through on it. Another has promised to look further into the matter and get back to me.

Review:

I actually spent a few hours on this review, so I hope it is ok that I post a new thread about it.

I apologize for the poor grammar/writing - I wrote it very fast.

As I stated in the other thread, I am only reviewing this product because a friend of mine bought two of this guy’s previous products. I paid for this one myself, and I will be refunding it out of sheer principle. I would have refunded the two others as well if I had paid for them.

There are 11 modules and some extra videos in the members’ area.

Module 1 – A lot of mobile stats and data in this one, most of which should not be surprising to most people who regularly follow industry news.

Module 2 - In this module he seems to go on and on about sending traffic to mobile optimized squeeze pages. What if 30 people converts, then I just made $150”, “this can really start to add up”, "Alright so I send them a Clickbank offer, and boom" – that last one is just classic, timeless relationship building advice! (I hope you can detect the irony). He goes on with "I get a huge list that I can market to forever", "CPA stands for.." and so on..

He keeps talking about his conversion rate, and various numbers, and how much money you can potentially make, and yet fails to explain how to accomplish it - is it by any chance because sending traffic straight to affiliate links is THE most fragile business model in existence? The rest of video 2 contains more pipe dreams and "think of the possibilities" moments, again without any tangible, actionable direction.

Module 3 – Here he explains how the interfaces of the ad platforms work again peppered with regular "just think of the possibilities" moments (sorry if I repeat myself, but monkey see, monkey do, or whatever the appropriate saying is in this context.. I am speed writing here! – this is very basic stuff.

Module 4 - More from the same drawer - and then the big secret is revealed. I don’t even own a cell phone, and even I know that a mobile browser is different from a standard browser. At this point the "just think about how much money you can make" filler is getting more than unbearable.

Module 5 -- "Clickbank is amazing, you can make a lot of money with it" that is not an exact quote, but close. He spends a long time explaining the basics, and includes regular mentions of "big money". He also talks about his squeeze page software - which comes at additional cost (67/month) - but he never provides any tangible proof that the squeeze pages presenting the mobile offers are the true source of his income, or that they have any sort of real effect.

Module 6– In this one he shows how to get affiliate links from Amazon in order to sell physical products as an affiliate - the most creative part about this module is the title: "let’s get physical". I noted that his account shows no sales activity. This is generally another uninteresting video that covers very basic stuff.

Module 7 – In this module he explains how to get pay per call offers. Pay per call is really just another way of tracking an affiliate sale, but through a phone number instead of an affiliate URL. Again, the information provided is very basic "how to find an offer" interspersed with even more "easy, easy money" comments, but no real guidance or insight is offered.

Module 8 - In this one, the "just think about the possibilities" moment deals with mobile marketing for local businesses. Sure, you could go out and manage mobile campaigns for local businesses - they may not be tech savvy, but you can be sure they want to know exactly what they get from their advertising dollars. And what do they get? Is there even enough volume to support very specific local offers through mobile advertising? He just mentions this as an idea, one of many, that is not supported by anything tangible in the form of how to do it, or what results he has accomplished (I know what my guess is).

I did see the remaining videos, but found no reason to mention anything further about them.

Oh, except the Iphone app module. That was the first video that actually made me laugh out loud. Again, completely in line with the rest of the product – he talks about possibilities and potential, and how a lot of people make a killing with apps - but again - with no with real direction.

I will just let these links speak for themselves:

So, You Want To Develop iPhone Apps, Eh? You REALLY Want To Read This! Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log.

Is The Rush To Develop iPhone Apps Creating A Bubble? | mocoNews

And a quote from one of the articles:

Supercollider Blog reports on several levels of paid app downloads, the relevant number is that half of all paid iPhone apps get less than 1,000 downloads. The median point is under 1,000. Lets call it 999. That number times $1.95 per paid app gives the ‘most typical app’ the total revenues in its lifetime – the full two years of App Store existence – of $1,948 dollars. This is before Apple takes its cut of 30%, so we are left with $1,363 over two years or $682 per year. This is so ‘successful’ that half of all of the developers of the 164,250 apps – will actually earn LESS THAN THIS. Before you start to cry, remember, there is that Angry Bird game that had 4 million paid downloads and the Bewelled 2 game with 3 million paid downloads. Thats your math there, they are totally skewing the averages, and you are stuck in the ‘long tail’ indeed. Half of all developers will earn less than $682 per year. Do you still think this is a good business idea?

The overall verdict

There is a lot of filler and basic stuff where he spends time on the usual suspects; Clickbank, what is CPA offers, and so on. “Clickbank pays high commissions" and "Amazon pays lower commission".

Most of the content has been regurgitated in 100s if not 1000s of products since. The few things he mentions that some people may not have heard of (such as pay per call) are covered in an extremely superficial way.

He almost never (if at all) mention aspects of real online marketing (relationship building, improving conversion rates, pre-selling) - stuff that is vital - but maybe that is because that sort of thing requires real EFFORT which would be more than 99% of his intended audience bargained for (judging by the sales letter). To fill out the holes it is apparently much easier to just have tons of "how to sign up for Clickbank" videos - yes, I think that is actually a title of one of the videos.

In regards to getting low CPCs - you can not by any standard compare the CPC of display ads and search ads. Getting a positive ROI is by no means guaranteed just because you get clicks at just a few cents. As an example, it is relatively easy to get clicks from Google (Adsense), and a number of other platforms from 3-10 cents (I have nothing for sale here or anywhere else), in some markets higher. I have done that several times. The key however, is conversion, as most of us know. And on top of that, it seems that most people are paying much more than the few cents he talks about.

He does not go in and show concrete tangible examples of winning campaigns - sure he has "proven" campaigns. But anyone who knows anything knows that any CPA network or affiliate network will throw their best performing campaigns at you like they were dead rodents (I realize that was a pathetic analogy . No solid proof that he makes money from the mobile offers is ever presented - why does only Clickbank and Paypal earnings show on the sales page? He is particularly generous in showing his Clickbank earnings in the sales videos. But he does not navigate to the pages in his various accounts that show proof of earnings in the videos inside the members’ area. For someone who likes to talk so much about how much money he makes WHY does he not show any real tangible results achieved promoting these offers? And why do all screenshots/videos that involve his campaigns show all campaigns on pause?

As someone else have already hinted - which is completely on par with my own sentiments - is the fact that you get a very distinct feeling that the author is not actually applying most of these things, he just explains the "potential" and how this is "easy money", and adds in various random potential earning scenarios, conversion rates and so on. A critical voice might infer that the results shown on the sales page could very well come from sales of his previous "make money online" offers in Clickbank (which also supports Paypal), and not from real b2c affiliate marketing offers on mobile phones. The author has so far been unresponsive in terms of submitting the proof I emailed him for.

In reality, it is not as easy as he makes it out – as also already pointed out earlier in the thread by someone who is doing it – and several other posters who have posted results from their campaigns. And those who make the wildest claims, including the author, does not seem to want to or be able to provide irrefutable evidence of their alleged quick, easy, and significant earnings.

Now - I could probably write another 5-10 pages about this product easily. But the time I have already spent is more than enough time wasted. I think is a shame that this type of product can “break through” in these circles. Of course, people can get a refund - but they can not get their time back, and the money invested in campaigns that don’t produce results.

And if this is by any means the industry standard, a lot of people will end up in a cycle where they jump from one quick fix to another because the product is carefully constructed to give the illusion that it does really work with no effort required..."but just not for me". And so, the story repeats itself with no one the wiser because "quick fix" authors refuse or lack the skills to educate people on the true principles of Internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author dannynz
    Originally Posted by Martin Brock View Post


    In reality, it is not as easy as he makes it out – as also already pointed out earlier in the thread by someone who is doing it – and several other posters who have posted results from their campaigns. And those who make the wildest claims, including the author, does not seem to want to or be able to provide irrefutable evidence of their alleged quick, easy, and significant earnings.
    No it is not easy Martin - I think you might be referring to my comments in the other thread e.g. just in the past 12 hours I have set-up another campaign to double check I have it right before I show the complete details so everyone do it - so yes it takes forever to get it right - but the good news is I can click a button to clone my set-up into your account.

    Martin impressive review, very good, thank you. I have had so many emails etc on my mobile marketing I have not had time to even go over most of Adam's videos. The ones I have seen so far have not been that impressive. Love to hear from other people on Adam's set up and if it is working for them. Personally I would forget building a list.

    thanks again Martin

    Danny
    • Profile picture of the author JonathanBoettcher
      Originally Posted by dannynz View Post

      Personally I would forget building a list.
      Uh... did you actually just say that? Seems to me a list is pretty well the only way you're going to put this to work for you...
    • Profile picture of the author jimleaf2010
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  • Profile picture of the author tkhowse
    Thanks for your very thorough review. I really appreciate your honesty and how you disclose the true facts surrounding this product.

    Now, has anyone on here found a training course that really helps Internet marketers to develop profitable mobile marketing campaigns? It seems like mobile marketing might have a lot of potential, and it's very intriguing to me.
  • Profile picture of the author ScottR
    Martin,

    Thanks so much for the very comprehensive review. It is definitely helpful.

    In my experience, pretty much all forms of traffic arbitrage require substantial effort and testing. After all, if the process didn't take work or at least a special skill set of some sort, then why would they need us as affiliates in the middle?

    --Scott
  • Profile picture of the author jprano
    Martin,

    Great review, especially writing real fast. I appreciate your candid honesty.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Smith
    Another thank you added.

    This is what I expect to find in the review section. An actual post from someone who has gone through the product...

    Too many times we see - this looks great, but never get the actual follow up post to say whether it is or isn't!

    Great post Martin

    Randy
  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Great review Martin
    and spot on

    Kev
  • Profile picture of the author KWall
    Another thank you for a great review and post. I was considering getting this product, but a previous product of his got similar reviews, so I was skeptical.
    Thanks for saving me some money and time wasted!

    Kevin
  • Profile picture of the author empowermentgroup
    Great review Martin.....thanks for saving me hard cash and more importantly unrecoverable wasted time!!!

    A great example of the selfish service that makes the WF such a great place.
    • Profile picture of the author Martin Brock
      Originally Posted by empowermentgroup View Post

      Great review Martin.....thanks for saving me hard cash and more importantly unrecoverable wasted time!!!

      A great example of the selfish service that makes the WF such a great place.
      Hehe yes -- If I ever need help, I am here for myself any time

      I appreciate all the nice comments far -- I wonder what is keeping those who feel less positive about my review from posting...
    • Profile picture of the author adamonline
      Thank you Martin for your thorough and excellent review of MM.

      This one had my greed glands started, especially when Guru Mansuer
      threw huge praise, discounts, bonuses and another ad cert. worth 100.00 to get us started!

      I hoped that if I could just wait a little longer before pulling the trigger, an experienced Warrior such as you and the others would save the day, and I appreciate that you and the WF came thru again!
      So your post (along with the other Warriors), have helped me and I'm sure others that may also be a newbie already suffering with enough of the usual "syndum's" (shiny object, cash depleted from WSO's, info overload) than to spend more time while lining the wrong pockets.

      Well done,
      (a different) Adam

      Btw - received another e-mail from another mini-Guru affiliate trying to elicit the herd mentality stating MM has sold over 5k units and is hot ! So at least we know that one of his campaigns really works ! :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author Mr Ex
    I also want to know what triggers a mobile ad since you cannot bid on keywords

    It would be nice if someone could answer this.

    Thanks,
    Mr Ex
  • Profile picture of the author Leads4Builders
    Thanks for the awesome review.
  • Profile picture of the author rchudej1
    What do you expect from a $77 course???

    If it's any good, the creator will charge more.

    It seems like every guru is pushing it for a big buck affiliate commission without even had a time to evaluate the product other than just it's name.

    It's one thing to be able to make a lot of money BUT it's a completely different thing to be able to teach others to do the same.

    Mike Chudej
    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Nice in depth review, Martin. I wish I could say I was surprised, but it sounds just like I expected it would. Which I was trying to hint at in the other thread. But I didn't want to make any public assumptions and/or statements about the quality of the product since I haven't reviewed it (never had any desire to).

      Anyway, I hope the mods leave this thread, because the other one seems to have wondered from the "review" aspect.

      Originally Posted by Martin Brock View Post

      I think is a shame that this type of product can “break through” in these circles. Of course, people can get a refund - but they can not get their time back, and the money invested in campaigns that don’t produce results.

      And if this is by any means the industry standard, a lot of people will end up in a cycle where they jump from one quick fix to another because the product is carefully constructed to give the illusion that it does really work with no effort required..."but just not for me". And so, the story repeats itself with no one the wiser because "quick fix" authors refuse or lack the skills to educate people on the true principles of Internet marketing.
      You said a mouthful.
    • Profile picture of the author jprano
      Originally Posted by rchudej1 View Post

      What do you expect from a $77 course???

      If it's any good, the creator will charge more.

      It seems like every guru is pushing it for a big buck affiliate commission without even had a time to evaluate the product other than just it's name.

      It's one thing to be able to make a lot of money BUT it's a completely different thing to be able to teach others to do the same.

      Mike Chudej

      It's called GREED...ummm marketing.
  • Profile picture of the author judeman
    Thanks Martin, that was one darned fast write up.... it's stuff like this that makes the WF well worth it.
  • Profile picture of the author garyk1968
    The copy is detailed and compelling and then I got an email from Kevin Rogers which explained why, he was hired to write it. If you dont know him he's one of John Carltons protege's and a great job his done. I'm on his list as I actually bought Carltons Simple Writing System via Kevin.

    I have the course (MM) but I'm not going to go into detail until I have actually tried a couple of campaigns.

    Gary
  • Profile picture of the author KevScarb
    Great post Martin.

    I added my comments over on the original thread here http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post2440991, but have still linked to yours.

    I know how much work you did here, so well done.

    Kev
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  • Profile picture of the author bfas
    Brilliant review, Martin!

    Not only specific and detailed, but you elucidated 3 things which - combined with the shameless "say anything" pursuit of JV commissions - drive the whole over-saturated, over-hyped, under-performing "Miracle Solution" market. In fact, this alone would make a *truly* worthwhile WSO on how NOT to lose you money & time:

    "Most of the content has been regurgitated in 100s if not 1000s of products since."


    "...the author is not actually applying most of these things, he just explains the "potential" and how this is "easy money"..."


    "... a lot of people will end up in a cycle where they jump from one quick fix to another because the product is carefully constructed to give the illusion that it does really work with no effort required..."but just not for me". And so, the story repeats itself with no one the wiser because "quick fix" authors refuse or lack the skills to educate people on the true principles of Internet marketing."

    Thanks again Martin for a very thorough, honest, and generous post!

    bfas
    • Profile picture of the author radq9
      I've started my own small campaigns to see if the hype is all it say's it is, mobile I mean. I couldn't get any impressions until I up'ed the ante. F'n google
  • Profile picture of the author Dion Drakes
    Wow! Now that's what I call a thorough review.

    Thank you so much for taking your time to share your experience Martin.

    I was still on the fence and brewing with curiosity regarding the course despite reading others warnings that the content is seriously lacking in MM.

    All curiosity for this course has now been fully put to rest. I'll just steer clear and save my money for my own mobile campaign testing.

    Cheers.

    P.S. If there was a "Buy me a beer" feature on this site, you'd be getting at least 2 from me.
  • Profile picture of the author nerodea
    Okay, So here is my review. I am one of the people who brought into this course and even got the upgrades. I tested out the proven campaigns, following the directions of click and paste.

    First of all, of the seven campaigns mentioned, only five are still active in the CPA networks he mentioned. Of those five, I have tested out three. Of the three I have tested, none have made any conversions over the past several days. I have just copied and pasted as mentioned, and no conversion so far.

    I have seen a lot of the super affiliates tell their subscribers that they have made money (several hundred dollars) within a day of implementing the techniques on the videos, and I have not had such results. I am not saying that they did not follow the course, but i would not be surprised if they got one on one help from the author when they set it up.

    I have made money with CPAs using other methods in the past (Pay Per Click being one of them), but as it is written, and at this point, I honestly cannot say that this course is a one stop solution.

    I think that if you buy this course, you should, at best, think of it as your introduction to mobile advertising. I do think that there is some definite money in using it, but I think there is a lot more to mobile advertising then what he has put into the course. I personally plan on talking to my affiliate managers and my account manager to get better advice on how to optimize these campaigns to possibly make them convert.
  • Profile picture of the author Haroon Ballim
    Execellent stuff Martin .. You really put a lot of effort and time into this review .

    I received an email from a highly regarded warrior and seller on this forum touting this product . After reading the sales page I was about to click the buy now . Normally I would first check the forum for reviews but because the email came from a well regarded warrior promoting this product I almost bought , but than decided let me check the forum for reviews first.

    So glad I found your post as it saved me a lot of time .
    Keep up this excellent level of information for other items you might have purchased

    Kind Regards
    Haroon

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